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Old September 8th 04, 02:33 AM
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On 6 Sep 2004 23:49:53 -0700, wrote:

Will the alleged radio criminal, K1MAN, lose his license? I
read the ARRL Enforcement Log recently, which contained a
letter to the fat one from RH, which basically stated that
fatty would lose his ticket unless he stopped qrming, and
trying to pedal his useless **** over his stupid
qrm-cast.... well he's still here!

Anyone got the scoop on when the fat boy will go away
permanently?


Well, personally, I think Hams should bombard Riely with
complaints, through the normal channels as well as a poliete
confrontations at hanfests he hits. I know he routinely hits the
Dayton Hamvention and I think that his travels take him to other
regional hamfests.
If enough people provide sufficient evidence of continued
interference (like several tapings made on the samr day and his
favorite frequency), then Riley will be spurred into action. Jusat
remember to mention the EB case number and the most recent warning
letters available on ARRL's enforcement logs pages.
As long as you're polite in explaining your frustration in
talking over the band when K1MAN is on and that the gentleman insists
on making illegal non-emergency related broadcasts and of an illegal
commercial nature (as long as he's conducting business that falls
under the Part 97 rules)
You can also make copies of the recordings and file a
complaint with the local branch office of the Department of Justice
or, if you are close enough, personally deliver tapes of the illegal
broadcasts to the nearest Federal Building/Courthouse and swear out a
complaint. When he has to start defending himself from multiple
complaints from around the United States, he'll realize that he's
going to spend more money defending himself than he would rake in.
Just as long as you're poliete with the Feds, you'll get some
action and that would also include the "in rem" siezure of his entire
shack as well as the antenna(s) he's using.
But, that's just a personal opinion, not meant to start any
flamewars (Flames will be totally ignored as a matter of business)

Splinter




K1MAN's program is GOOD, and should be left alone. If he has to go, so does
W1AW. Enough said, I have spoken. This is the way it WILL be.



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Old September 9th 04, 12:30 AM
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 21:33:16 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
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K1MAN's program is GOOD, and should be left alone. If he has to go, so does
W1AW. Enough said, I have spoken. This is the way it WILL be.


I beg to differ. ARRL is within the guidelines of Part 97 of
the Commission's rules and. last I checked, knows that the frequency
is clear before starting their programs. Also, it's widely known and
accepted that W!AW has scheduled "All Station" announcements as well
as Code practice. All within the bounds of the rules.
K1MAN, as I understand it, doesn't care about if the frequency
is is use and walks over everyone in an attempt to gain financially
from selling his equipment over the air.

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Old September 9th 04, 11:08 PM
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 21:33:16 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
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K1MAN's program is GOOD, and should be left alone. If he has to go, so

does
W1AW. Enough said, I have spoken. This is the way it WILL be.


I beg to differ. ARRL is within the guidelines of Part 97 of
the Commission's rules and. last I checked, knows that the frequency
is clear before starting their programs. Also, it's widely known and
accepted that W!AW has scheduled "All Station" announcements as well
as Code practice. All within the bounds of the rules.
K1MAN, as I understand it, doesn't care about if the frequency
is is use and walks over everyone in an attempt to gain financially
from selling his equipment over the air.

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K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.

Your understanding is incorrect, as usual.

If W1AW can "broadcast", so can K1MAN. If you don't like the content of
K1MAN's broadcast, start your own. But for now, SHUT THE HELL UP.



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Old September 9th 04, 11:35 PM
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"Mr Ham Radio" wrote in message
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"Splinter" wrote in message
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 21:33:16 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
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K1MAN's program is GOOD, and should be left alone. If he has to go, so

does
W1AW. Enough said, I have spoken. This is the way it WILL be.


I beg to differ. ARRL is within the guidelines of Part 97 of
the Commission's rules and. last I checked, knows that the frequency
is clear before starting their programs. Also, it's widely known and
accepted that W!AW has scheduled "All Station" announcements as well
as Code practice. All within the bounds of the rules.
K1MAN, as I understand it, doesn't care about if the frequency
is is use and walks over everyone in an attempt to gain financially
from selling his equipment over the air.

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K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.

Your understanding is incorrect, as usual.

If W1AW can "broadcast", so can K1MAN. If you don't like the content of
K1MAN's broadcast, start your own. But for now, SHUT THE HELL UP.



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all i have heard on his stuff recently is ar-newsline recordings. i used to
prefer when he would get on and rant about stuff better... does he do that
at some other times still or is he just trying to stay clean and play the
canned news?


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Old September 10th 04, 12:59 AM
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Mr Ham Radio wrote:


K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.


So if I make a "schedule" trhat is exactly the same time and frequency
as K1MAN's, then I am legal and okay?


- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old September 10th 04, 02:29 AM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Mr Ham Radio wrote:


K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.


So if I make a "schedule" trhat is exactly the same time and frequency
as K1MAN's, then I am legal and okay?



Sure is.

- Mike KB3EIA -

And I ain't shutting up.


Yes, you are.......



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Mr Ham Radio wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Mr Ham Radio wrote:



K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.


So if I make a "schedule" trhat is exactly the same time and frequency
as K1MAN's, then I am legal and okay?




Sure is.


- Mike KB3EIA -

And I ain't shutting up.



Yes, you are.......


How?

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Old September 10th 04, 11:56 PM
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"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
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Mr Ham Radio wrote:


K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.


So if I make a "schedule" trhat is exactly the same time and frequency
as K1MAN's, then I am legal and okay?


- Mike KB3EIA -

And I ain't shutting up.


According to the mighty MAN that would be correct. But then he will send
you 'felony affidavits' so you better watch out.

Dan/W4NTI


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Old September 10th 04, 07:09 PM
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:08:25 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
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K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.

Your understanding is incorrect, as usual.

If W1AW can "broadcast", so can K1MAN. If you don't like the content of
K1MAN's broadcast, start your own. But for now, SHUT THE HELL UP.


I refuse to be drawn into a flame war, sir. Ovbiously I know
enough about Part 97 of the RULES to know that K1MAN is violating
them. I supposed I shall have to take the time here to bolster my
opinion with a few cold hard facts as stated in the commission rules.
§97.113(b) states "An amateur station shall not engage in any
form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way
communications except as specifically provided in these rules; nor
shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program
production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that
communications directly related to the immediate safety of human life
or the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to
broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of
communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the
event." Is K1MAN violating this section of the rules...According to
Riley, that's a yes.
The commission rules also state that frequencies are open to
all licensed amateurs, correct? No one has the right to demand
someone depart the frequency because a person wished to use it.
Standard amateur practice ssays that an Amateur liosten to the
frequency and make a short question asking if the freq is in use.
Does K1MAN bother or just say "Get off MY frequency!"
§97.111(b) states "(b) In addition to one-way transmissions
specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may
transmit the following types of one-way communications:


(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;
(2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way
communications with other stations;

(3) Telecommand;

(4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications;

(5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or
improving proficiency in, the international Morse code;

(6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins;

(7) Transmissions of telemetry. "

W1AW falls under Sub-Paragraphs 5 and 6 in that they issue
daily code practice runs as well as weekly bulletins or even relays
the word that the FCC is suspending the rules due to an emergency
situation. Tat's covered under sub-paragraph 4. All done in
accordance with the rules. buddy.
Does K1MAN do daily code practice sessions? Does K1MAN relay
information bulleting? and does K1MAN engage in transmissions to aid
emergency communications?
From what FCC is saying. the answer to all three is "No", but,
he stays just far enough below the FCC "radar" that nothing's being
done that people would want done.
Now...I've made the case here. Find a reason to knock it
down...if you dare.

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"Splinter" wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 18:08:25 -0400, "Mr Ham Radio"
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K1MAN's schedule is also widely known, and is within the bounds of the
rules.

Your understanding is incorrect, as usual.

If W1AW can "broadcast", so can K1MAN. If you don't like the content of
K1MAN's broadcast, start your own. But for now, SHUT THE HELL UP.


I refuse to be drawn into a flame war, sir. Ovbiously I know
enough about Part 97 of the RULES to know that K1MAN is violating
them. I supposed I shall have to take the time here to bolster my
opinion with a few cold hard facts as stated in the commission rules.
§97.113(b) states "An amateur station shall not engage in any
form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way
communications except as specifically provided in these rules; nor
shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program
production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that
communications directly related to the immediate safety of human life
or the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to
broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of
communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the
event." Is K1MAN violating this section of the rules...According to
Riley, that's a yes.
The commission rules also state that frequencies are open to
all licensed amateurs, correct? No one has the right to demand
someone depart the frequency because a person wished to use it.
Standard amateur practice ssays that an Amateur liosten to the
frequency and make a short question asking if the freq is in use.
Does K1MAN bother or just say "Get off MY frequency!"
§97.111(b) states "(b) In addition to one-way transmissions
specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may
transmit the following types of one-way communications:


KD8AGU's boreing bull**** snipped.....


If K1MAN was in VIOLATION, the FCC would have shut him down YEARS ago. He's
NOT, so they can't.

Deal with the FACTS Dan.

I have spoken. End of discussion. Move on.....

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