N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(N2EY) writes:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:


Not me. "Kluge' is a familiar term in aerospace. Too bad you never
worked in that...

Why would I want to?

Tsk. I doubt anyone in the aerospace industry really cares what you
want to do personally, but that's just an off-the-cuff opinion. :-)

I see your point, Len. I doubt that there are many in amateur radio who
care what you want to do "personally".

This brings up something I've been wondering about....

Len describes himself as "retired during regular hours" which I take to mean
that he may still do some work on the side. He's 72 and still working part
time, after a "career in radio electronics". Probably retired at 65, if
postings are any indication. Lives in a nice little house that he is fortunate
to own because he bought it 40+ years ago.

Dave is also retired, if my information is correct, after a career of service
to our country. He's also much younger than Len. Lives in a nice house that is
also a great location for ham radio.

It is also a nice location for peace and quiet, for hunting, for
astronomy and for being near a population of ordinary folks.

Happens to be in WVA but could be
anywhere.
Dave could probably live in SoCal if he so desired, but he doesn't.

Southern California would be far down my list of desireable places to
live. It does top Manhattan on my list. I had no desire to locate near
any large city. From my place, I can see three homes, none closer than
about 100 yards.

So I am wondering, looking at their relative retirements, why I should be
interested in following Len's example rather than Dave's.

Not "put out" at all. You behaved exactly as expected and predicted.

Oooooo..."as expected" and "as predicted!" :-)

"Predicted" to whom? :-)

...to the entire newsgroup on quite a number of occasions :-) :-)

There's a one-paragraph profile around here somewhere....;-)

It is wonderfully crafted and it is what I had in mind when I reponded
to Len's question.

Meanwhile, readers may note that you talk of "homebrewing" and "technical
subjects", but have nothing to show that isn't work-related except perhaps
having purchased a ready-built receiver 20+ years ago. For "CASH"...

Tsk. Someone else having money gets you UPSET does it?

Not at all.

Len's hidden, puerile implication is that he has money and you don't.

I didn't see any statement about someone else having money, Leonard. We
have an indication that you had, at one time, enough surplus "CASH" to
purchase an Icom R-70.

Brings up another subject...

If I go out and buy an Orion or an IC-7800 "for CASH", will that somehow change
Len's behavior here?

I don't think that'd turn the trick, Jim. You'd have to be able to
prove to Len that you bought it for CASH.

A kluge is a kluge. A picture of one speaks for itself.

Len, you are a rude churl. If we had a photo of you, perhaps it could
speak for itself.

Dave, why do you say that about Len? He's not describing the Southgate Type 7,
because it doesn't fit his definition of a "kluge".

No, it doesn't fit his provided definition but that hasn't stopped him
from attempting to force-fit it to his definition. He wasn't paying you
a compliment. His definitions of amateur radio and the ARRL aren't
accurate either. He hasn't allowed that to stop him from painting a
false picture of either.

What's most noteworthy is that while Len sits in judgement of what others do,
he hasn't presented any homebrew radio projects of his own. You'd think a
retired guy with a home shop and all his claimed experience, know-how and
critical addy-tood would have built *something*.

C'mon. You'd think that a guy who has declared a several decades
interest in amateur radio would have obtained an amateur radio license.
He certainly could have done so in the years he has been posting here.
He could have done so in the years since his embarrassing "Extra right
out of the box" boast. Suddenly, he claims that I'm keeping him from
obtaining a license.

But we see nothing at all from Len. Heck, he can't even solve a simple
heterodyne design problem.

I'm sure that he's seen your challenge as a DEMAND. Len doesn't do
DEMANDS.

You've heard my homebrew rigs, Dave - did they sound any different from "state
of the art" rigs?

No, not at all. There was no drift, no chirp, no warble, no clicks.
Now that I think of it, some of the more expensive commercial rigs have
a reputation for key clicks. The Yaesu FT-1000 MP and variants come to
mind. Some of the expensive commercial rigs also transmit really ugly
phase noise components. They were designed by PROFESSIONALS.

Len asks things about what others have built or designed. When he
receives a response, he heaps insults on the equipment offered in
evidence. Though Len isn't a ham, he can build electronic item his
little heart desires. There is no indication or even a statement from
him that he has done so. Radio amateurs have the legal right to use
their homebrew equipment or to use modified commercial equipment on the
bands. They can do these things without the need for becoming
PROFESSIONALS or having their work checked by PROFESSIONALS.

Dave K8MN