"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Steve Robeson K4YZ" wrote

or that they fail to render oaths and allegiance
to Hans Brakob?

Steve, could you point out to me where this "render oaths and
allegiance" bull**** comes from? Had to double check and make sure the
post didn't come from Len Anderson!


Your point was?


If you have to ask, you probably won't "get it", but I've got a hot news
flash for you. Those fellas taking the FCC tests at DU and JA hamfests
aren't dual citizens of DU (or JA) and Saipan, they're souveneir
collectors and reciprocal-licensing cheats.

There are a small handful of "will-call" PO boxes in KH0 and KH2 which
are the "home address" for hundreds of JA and DU citizens. (What do all
these calls have in common? KH2O KH0JQ KH0JU KH0KW AH0BB KH0BZ KH0CG
KH0CQ KH0HQ KH0HZ WH0V NH0F WH0B WH0C AH0AS AH0AU KH0CN KH0DD ......and
I could go on for hundreds of desirable KH0/KH2 call signs held by
foreign nationals who've never set foot on Guam/Saipan/US soil and
likely have no intention to ever do so.)

Here's how it works. DU1XYZ or JA1XYZ knows a guy on KH0 or KH2 and has
him rent a PO Box.

Or KH6. I recall a ham on Hawaii who loaned out his PO Box to Mike
Deignan. Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.

On 23 Nov 2004 03:33:06 -0800, (William) wrote:
Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.

Lot's of people who never lived in Guam had KH2 calls. When I used
to do the KH2 QSL bureau, there was a constant flow of licenses that
would show up in the KH2 bureau's P.O. box for people we never
heard of.

1. Take a V.E. test.

2. Use the KH2 QSL bureau's P.O. box number as your address.

3. Get a Guam call.

4. Look on the internet and figure out what your new Guam call is.

5. Send in a change of address, to your real address in New Jersey,
or your cousins address in California (since you live in Italy)
so you can get a copy of your license.

A friend of mine in Saipan went to get his mail one day and found
seven FCC licenses for seven people from Japan he didn't know....

The system is too easy to beat.

73, Jim KH2D

William wrote:

Or KH6. I recall a ham on Hawaii who loaned out his PO Box to Mike
Deignan. Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.


Geez, I wonder who that was?

Jeff KH6O (ex KH2PZ)

P.S. KH0-KH9 are all in the same call area: 13.


--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

(Jeffrey Herman) wrote in message ...
William wrote:

Or KH6. I recall a ham on Hawaii who loaned out his PO Box to Mike
Deignan. Same ham had a Guam call, never lived on Guam. Said he had
a job offer there that never panned out, and got the call in "prep"
for moving there.


Geez, I wonder who that was?

Jeff KH6O (ex KH2PZ)

P.S. KH0-KH9 are all in the same call area: 13.

So go get your "old" call back via the vanity call sign system, or
just scoop up another King Henry Two call sign.

In article et, "KØHB"
writes:

If you have to ask, you probably won't "get it", but I've got a hot news
flash for you. Those fellas taking the FCC tests at DU and JA hamfests
aren't dual citizens of DU (or JA) and Saipan, they're souveneir
collectors and reciprocal-licensing cheats.

I don't like this setup any more than you do, Hans.

But how is it a cheat?

Is it because those fellas never set foot on US soil, but hold US licenses?

---

Regardless of the legality, I know a lot of hams in CONUS who'd be ticked off
if they couldn't have a 1x2 because those fellas elsewhere in the world had
scarfed them all up.

73 de Jim, N2EY

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:06:31 GMT, "KØHB"
wrote:

There are a small handful of "will-call" PO boxes in KH0 and KH2 which
are the "home address" for hundreds of JA and DU citizens. (What do all
these calls have in common? KH2O KH0JQ KH0JU KH0KW AH0BB KH0BZ KH0CG
KH0CQ KH0HQ KH0HZ WH0V NH0F WH0B WH0C AH0AS AH0AU KH0CN KH0DD..

You need to rethink your list, Hans. WH0V and NH0F have been living in
Saipan for years, as have a few others on that list. The ones that
start with Yoshi and Toshi at QRZ.com probably don't live there :-)

Saipan is not a U.S. territory and they make some of their own rules
about immigration and working there, so there are a lot of guys from
the P.I. that live and work in Saipan. Probably 90% of the ham
population in Saipan are Filipino. But then again, you are correct in
assuming that probably 90% of the hams with KH0 calls couldn't find
Saipan on a map.

73, Jim KH2D

(Steve Robeson K4YZ) wrote in message ...
Subject: Get your Trophy US Extra Callsign (A KH0x call would be nice!)
From: "KØHB"
Date: 11/22/2004 11:00 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id: et

What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

Are you refering to the fact that it's held in one of the southern island
provinces of the Philippines, or that they fail to render oaths and allegiance
to Hans Brakob?

Or perhaps it's the FCC VEC testing...???

Had you been to the RP you'd know there are a great number of US residents
who hold dual citizenship, and VE testing is routinely held outside the
territorial limits of the United States for their benefit. However this is
also a moot point since US citizenship is not required for FCC licensure.

Furthermore, review of FCC rules and regulations does not specifiy where
VE exams must be held. It does require prior public announcement of testing to
be held, and it would appear that this announcement meets the test of US law.

Therefore, there seems to be nothing wrong with the announcement.

Your point was?

Steve, K4YZ

"You miss the point, Steve. The purpose of r.r.a.p. is no longer
discussion of policy, or learning something, or study of communications
theory.

The purpose is to FIGHT and to denegrate the dignity of all who do not
agree with you! Any other post is off topic and is not welcome here.

Get with the program. No one is "mistaken" or "partially correct" on
r.r.a.p. They either 100% totally agree with you, or they are "a lying,
scum sucking, bottom feeding no-code beeper." There is no in between,
and there must be at least one of each in every conversation here.
Anything which resembles a rational exchange of ideas and useful
information will either be ignored, or some enterprising induhvidual
will hijack the thread and turn it into an argument about Morse. No
other "Policy" conversation is allowed to survive unmolested.

72, de Hans, K0HB"

"KØHB" wrote in message
nk.net...
What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

I see that Hans has never been to the Philippines.......(grin)

"Mireca Eliade" wrote


I see that Hans has never been to the Philippines.......(grin)


Au contraire! During the years I was a member of the Tonkin Bay Yacht
Club, Subic was practically our home port, and the social life in
Olongapo along Magsaysay Drive was 'interesting'. BSEG

73, de Hans, K0HB/4ID

KØHB wrote:
What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

10:30 Snacks
12:00 Lunch Break


Morning snacks were too close to lunch.

Jeff KH6O


--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System