What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

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Hamvention 2004

Program of Activities
Nov 27, 2004
Ecotech Center, Cebu City, Philippines

7:00 Registration of Delegates
8:00 Opening Ceremonies
Invocation -
National Anthem - Joan Jayme
Welcome Address - Emilio B. Borja, DU7EBB
Declaration of Hamvention Open - Steve Tan,DW7MCC
8:30 FCC VEC Exam
9:00 Packet Radio Seminar - Bilfredo Canas, DU9BC
9:45 Echolink Seminar - Maximino Santos, 4F1BYN
10:30 Snacks
11:00 Congress of Presidents
Open Forum
12:00 Lunch Break
13:00 WRC / Satellite - Eddie Valdez, DU1EV
13:45 ARES - Eli E. Yongco, DU1YEE
14:30 PARA Awards Program - Serafin A. Nepomuceno,
DU1SAN
15:00 Snacks
15:30 General Assembly / Election
2005 Hamvention Host Bidding
17:30 PARA Board Meeting
19:00 Dinner
19:00 Fellowship Night
Roll Call of Clubs - Steve Tan, DW7MCC
Message from PARA Pres. - Jose Mari Gonzales,
DU1JMG
Introduction of Guest Speaker - Jet Manuel,4F7MHZ
Inspirational Talk - Danilo T. Sy,
Regional Director - NTC 7
Intermission
Awards and Recognition
Intermission
Raffle Draw
21:45 Free Time

In article et,
says...
What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hamvention 2004

Program of Activities
Nov 27, 2004
Ecotech Center, Cebu City, Philippines

7:00 Registration of Delegates
8:00 Opening Ceremonies
Invocation -
National Anthem - Joan Jayme
Welcome Address - Emilio B. Borja, DU7EBB
Declaration of Hamvention Open - Steve Tan,DW7MCC


**************************************
8:30 FCC VEC Exam oh really Gracie??
**************************************




9:00 Packet Radio Seminar - Bilfredo Canas, DU9BC
9:45 Echolink Seminar - Maximino Santos, 4F1BYN
10:30 Snacks
11:00 Congress of Presidents
Open Forum
12:00 Lunch Break
13:00 WRC / Satellite - Eddie Valdez, DU1EV
13:45 ARES - Eli E. Yongco, DU1YEE
14:30 PARA Awards Program - Serafin A. Nepomuceno,
DU1SAN
15:00 Snacks
15:30 General Assembly / Election
2005 Hamvention Host Bidding
17:30 PARA Board Meeting
19:00 Dinner
19:00 Fellowship Night
Roll Call of Clubs - Steve Tan, DW7MCC
Message from PARA Pres. - Jose Mari Gonzales,
DU1JMG
Introduction of Guest Speaker - Jet Manuel,4F7MHZ
Inspirational Talk - Danilo T. Sy,
Regional Director - NTC 7
Intermission
Awards and Recognition
Intermission
Raffle Draw
21:45 Free Time





I spotted 2 things

(1) Isn't Hamvention a registered trademark of DARA's Dayton Hamvention
and
(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

In article et,
says...
What's wrong with this Hamfest announcement?

73, de Hans, K0HB

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hamvention 2004

Program of Activities
Nov 27, 2004
Ecotech Center, Cebu City, Philippines

7:00 Registration of Delegates
8:00 Opening Ceremonies
Invocation -
National Anthem - Joan Jayme
Welcome Address - Emilio B. Borja, DU7EBB
Declaration of Hamvention Open - Steve Tan,DW7MCC


**************************************
8:30 FCC VEC Exam oh really Gracie??
**************************************




9:00 Packet Radio Seminar - Bilfredo Canas, DU9BC
9:45 Echolink Seminar - Maximino Santos, 4F1BYN
10:30 Snacks
11:00 Congress of Presidents
Open Forum
12:00 Lunch Break
13:00 WRC / Satellite - Eddie Valdez, DU1EV
13:45 ARES - Eli E. Yongco, DU1YEE
14:30 PARA Awards Program - Serafin A. Nepomuceno,
DU1SAN
15:00 Snacks
15:30 General Assembly / Election
2005 Hamvention Host Bidding
17:30 PARA Board Meeting
19:00 Dinner
19:00 Fellowship Night
Roll Call of Clubs - Steve Tan, DW7MCC
Message from PARA Pres. - Jose Mari Gonzales,
DU1JMG
Introduction of Guest Speaker - Jet Manuel,4F7MHZ
Inspirational Talk - Danilo T. Sy,
Regional Director - NTC 7
Intermission
Awards and Recognition
Intermission
Raffle Draw
21:45 Free Time





I spotted 2 things

(1) Isn't Hamvention a registered trademark of DARA's Dayton Hamvention
and
(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote:

(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

There are VEC exams all over the world, the Phillipines being no exception.
As long as the VECs are registered with the FCC, they can take exams
wherever they want. They send in the exam results to the FCC and licensees
receive their ticket in the mail. You need to have a valid ID and an address
in the US (including Saipan, Marianes...).

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

AFAIK, it is. There is no provision for the exams to take place in the US.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Toleranz, das war doch diese resultierende Verhaltensweise, wenn man sich
zwischen Abscheu und Mitleid nicht entscheiden kann.

(Andreas Kroschel in de.alt.talk.unmut)

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote:

(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

There are VEC exams all over the world, the Phillipines being no exception.
As long as the VECs are registered with the FCC, they can take exams
wherever they want. They send in the exam results to the FCC and licensees
receive their ticket in the mail. You need to have a valid ID and an address
in the US (including Saipan, Marianes...).

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

AFAIK, it is. There is no provision for the exams to take place in the US.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Toleranz, das war doch diese resultierende Verhaltensweise, wenn man sich
zwischen Abscheu und Mitleid nicht entscheiden kann.

(Andreas Kroschel in de.alt.talk.unmut)

In article ,
says...
Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote:

(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

There are VEC exams all over the world, the Phillipines being no exception.
As long as the VECs are registered with the FCC, they can take exams
wherever they want. They send in the exam results to the FCC and licensees
receive their ticket in the mail. You need to have a valid ID and an address
in the US (including Saipan, Marianes...).

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

AFAIK, it is. There is no provision for the exams to take place in the US.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

Of this I was not aware. SO if I take a VEC exam in Germany, do I
receive a US issued license with a US assigned callsign or a German
issued callsign (for example) OR do I receive a US issued license and
callsign then apply for a reciprical German license?

How do the Japanese, taking VEC exams on Guam, having no vaild US ID or
US address, end up with Guam callsigns?

no longer interesting, just confusing

In article ,
says...
Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote:

(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

There are VEC exams all over the world, the Phillipines being no exception.
As long as the VECs are registered with the FCC, they can take exams
wherever they want. They send in the exam results to the FCC and licensees
receive their ticket in the mail. You need to have a valid ID and an address
in the US (including Saipan, Marianes...).

verrry interesting..but not very kosher

AFAIK, it is. There is no provision for the exams to take place in the US.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

Of this I was not aware. SO if I take a VEC exam in Germany, do I
receive a US issued license with a US assigned callsign or a German
issued callsign (for example) OR do I receive a US issued license and
callsign then apply for a reciprical German license?

How do the Japanese, taking VEC exams on Guam, having no vaild US ID or
US address, end up with Guam callsigns?

no longer interesting, just confusing

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI said :

Of this I was not aware. SO if I take a VEC exam in Germany, do I
receive a US issued license with a US assigned callsign

Yes

OR do I receive a US issued license and
callsign then apply for a reciprical German license?

If you're a citizen of the United States living in Germany you must
get your US license, then you can operate with a CEPT permit in DL
land. If you're a German citizen you are most likely required to get a
German license, but you're welcome to write the tests for and get a
US callsign if you want, for use when you travel to the United States.

How do the Japanese, taking VEC exams on Guam, having no vaild US ID or
US address, end up with Guam callsigns?

Likely they use a US Mailing address of a friend or business
associate, etc. A US-issued photo-ID isn't necessary (their
home-country passport should be enough).

73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI said :

Of this I was not aware. SO if I take a VEC exam in Germany, do I
receive a US issued license with a US assigned callsign

Yes

OR do I receive a US issued license and
callsign then apply for a reciprical German license?

If you're a citizen of the United States living in Germany you must
get your US license, then you can operate with a CEPT permit in DL
land. If you're a German citizen you are most likely required to get a
German license, but you're welcome to write the tests for and get a
US callsign if you want, for use when you travel to the United States.

How do the Japanese, taking VEC exams on Guam, having no vaild US ID or
US address, end up with Guam callsigns?

Likely they use a US Mailing address of a friend or business
associate, etc. A US-issued photo-ID isn't necessary (their
home-country passport should be enough).

73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

In article t,
Steven R. Adell - KF2TI wrote:

(2) FCC VEC exams?? In the Phillipines??? I wasn't aware were a
possession of the US. That being the case, how can the can a VEC
provide FCC authorized exams? HHHmmmmmmmm

FCC VEC exams can be given anywere there are U.S. Licensed hams willing to
volunteer. The one excpetion is Israel, where the Ministry of Communications
specificaly requested that it not be done.

Besides the obvious, it allows U.S. citizens living overseas to upgrade
without going back to the U.S.

73, Geoff N3OWJ, 4X1GM


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