GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.

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GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.


GMRS is allowed up to 5 watts of transmit power,

FRS is only allowed to transmit with up to 500 milliwatts A.K.A. 1/2 watt.



MURS is probably the best choice for short-range local communications, by
Non-Hams.

No license is needed. These radios transmit with up to 2 watts, 4 times the
power of FRS radios!



(MURS) Multi-Use Radio Service Frequencies


95.632 MURS transmitter frequencies. (a) The MURS transmitter channel
frequencies are #1 - 151.820 #2 - 151.880 #3 -
151.940 #4 - 154.570 #5 - 154.600 · These frequencies
were called "dot" frequencies and had required a license to transmit. On
November 12, 2000 the FCC dropped the license requirement and opened them up
just like the FRS frequencies and CB radio. Max power on MURS is limited to
TWO watts. You will be able to talk MUCH farther with MURS radios than with
FRS radios.FRS & GMRS FREQUENCIES
NOTE: Not all FRS Manufacturer's channels correspond with one another. FRS
and GMRS Licenses may contact each other if they wish. They may share some
channels. The "private" squelch channels may not correspond either. Test
your equipment at a distance of at least 100' for compatibility. FRS
Frequencies
a.. CH01 462.5625
b.. CH02 462.5875
c.. CH03 462.6125
d.. CH04 462.6375
e.. CH05 462.6625
f.. CH06 462.6875
g.. CH07 462.7125
h.. CH08 467.5625
i.. CH09 467.5875
j.. CH10 467.6125
k.. CH11 467.6373
l.. CH12 467.6625
m.. CH13 467.8874
n.. CH14 467.7125

GMRS FREQUENCIES
GMRS Base & Mobile and Repeater Output Frequencies a.. 462.550
b.. 462.575
c.. 462.600
d.. 462.625
e.. 462.650
f.. 462.675
g.. 462.700
h.. 462.725
GMRS Repeater Input Frequencies a.. 467.550
b.. 467.575
c.. 467.600
d.. 467.625
e.. 467.650
f.. 467.675
g.. 467.700
h.. 467.725
GMRS and FRS are both citizens band allocations. GMRS is a licensed radio
service, authorizing higher power and flexibility. FRS is unlicensed, with
significant restrictions. FRS frequencies are interleaved with GMRS
frequencies. GMRS radios are also authorized to transmit on FRS channels 1
to 7 with no more than 5 watts and using 5 KHz deviation. GMRS uses 467 MHz
frequencies as repeater input channels. All FRS channels are simplex, with 3
Khz deviation and 500 milliwatts. Channel MHz Channel MHz GMRS
462.550 GMRS 467.550 FRS#1 462.5625 FRS#8 467.5625 GMRS
462.575 GMRS 467.575 FRS#2 462.5875 FRS#9 467.5875 GMRS
462.600 GMRS 467.600 FRS#3 462.6125 FRS#10 467.6125 GMRS
462.625 GMRS 467.625 FRS#4 462.6375 FRS#11 467.6375 GMRS
462.650 GMRS 467.650 FRS#5 462.6625 FRS#12 467.6625 GMRS
462.675 GMRS 467.675 FRS#6 462.6875 FRS#13 467.6875 GMRS
462.700 GMRS 467.700 FRS#7 462.7125 FRS#14 467.7125 GMRS
462.725 GMRS 467.725
Common FRS Tone Frequencies
Note- Not all FRS/GMRS radio tone channels are the same! When using "mixed"
radio types, test them with tone first, or turn tone "OFF". Tone PL
Cherokee Cobra Midland Motorola Motorola RadioShack Freq Code 465
250/300 75-510 TalkAbout Sport 106 none -- -- 0 0 0 -- -- 67.0
XZ 1 1 1 1 -- 1 69.3 WZ 2 -- -- -- -- --
9.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 71.9 XA 3 2 2 2 -- 3 74.4 WA 4 3 3
3 -- 4 77.0 XB 5 4 4 4 A 5 79.7 WB 6 5 5 5 -- 6 82.5 YZ 7
6 6 6 -- 7 85.4 YA 8 7 7 7 -- 8 88.5 YB 9 8 8 8 B 9 91.5
ZZ 10 9 9 9 -- 10 94.8 ZA 11 10 10 10 -- 11 97.4 ZB 12 11
11 11 C 12 100.0 1Z 13 12 12 12 -- 13 103.5 1A 14 13 13
13 -- 14 107.2 1B 15 14 14 14 D 15 110.9 2Z 16 15 15 15 --
16 114.8 2A 17 16 16 16 -- 17 118.8 2B 18 17 17 17 E 18 123.0
3Z 19 18 18 18 -- 19 127.3 3A 20 19 19 19 F 20 131.8 3B 21
20 20 20 -- 21 136.5 4Z 22 21 21 21 G 22 141.3 4A 23 22 22
22 -- 23 146.2 4B 24 23 23 23 -- 24 151.4 5Z 25 24 24 24 --
25 156.7 5A 26 25 25 25 -- 26 159.8 -- 27 -- -- -- -- 27 162.2
5B 28 26 26 26 -- 28 165.5 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29 167.9 6Z 29
27 27 27 -- 30 171.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31 173.8 6A 30 28 28
28 -- 32 177.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33 179.9 6B 31 29 29 29 --
34 183.5 -- 32 -- -- -- -- 35 186.2 7Z 33 30 30 30 -- 36
89.9 -- 34 -- -- -- -- 37 192.8 7A 35 31 31 31 -- 38 196.6 --
36 -- -- -- -- -- 199.5 -- 37 -- -- -- -- -- 203.5 M1 38 32
32 32 -- -- 206.5 8Z 39 -- -- -- -- -- 210.7 M2 40 33 33
33 -- -- 218.1 M3 41 34 34 34 -- -- 225.7 M4 42 35 35
35 -- -- 229.1 9Z 43 -- -- -- -- -- 233.6 M5 44 36 36
36 -- -- 241.8 M6 45 37 37 37 -- -- 250.3 M7 46 38 38
38 -- -- 254.1 0Z 47 -- -- -- -- -- Ace - WH2T

The Charts I sent near the end didn't display properly.
If anyone wants them eMail me direct.
Ace - WH2T


"Dr.Ace" wh2t@NoSpam wrote in message
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GMRS uses FRS simplex (direct) frequencies. The only advantage to
having a GMRS setup would be the use of repeaters.


GMRS is allowed up to 5 watts of transmit power,

FRS is only allowed to transmit with up to 500 milliwatts A.K.A. 1/2 watt.



MURS is probably the best choice for short-range local communications, by
Non-Hams.

No license is needed. These radios transmit with up to 2 watts, 4 times
the power of FRS radios!



(MURS) Multi-Use Radio Service Frequencies


95.632 MURS transmitter frequencies. (a) The MURS transmitter channel
frequencies are #1 - 151.820 #2 - 151.880 #3 -
151.940 #4 - 154.570 #5 - 154.600 · These frequencies
were called "dot" frequencies and had required a license to transmit. On
November 12, 2000 the FCC dropped the license requirement and opened them
up just like the FRS frequencies and CB radio. Max power on MURS is
limited to TWO watts. You will be able to talk MUCH farther with MURS
radios than with FRS radios.FRS & GMRS FREQUENCIES
NOTE: Not all FRS Manufacturer's channels correspond with one another. FRS
and GMRS Licenses may contact each other if they wish. They may share some
channels. The "private" squelch channels may not correspond either. Test
your equipment at a distance of at least 100' for compatibility. FRS
Frequencies
a.. CH01 462.5625
b.. CH02 462.5875
c.. CH03 462.6125
d.. CH04 462.6375
e.. CH05 462.6625
f.. CH06 462.6875
g.. CH07 462.7125
h.. CH08 467.5625
i.. CH09 467.5875
j.. CH10 467.6125
k.. CH11 467.6373
l.. CH12 467.6625
m.. CH13 467.8874
n.. CH14 467.7125

GMRS FREQUENCIES
GMRS Base & Mobile and Repeater Output Frequencies a.. 462.550
b.. 462.575
c.. 462.600
d.. 462.625
e.. 462.650
f.. 462.675
g.. 462.700
h.. 462.725
GMRS Repeater Input Frequencies a.. 467.550
b.. 467.575
c.. 467.600
d.. 467.625
e.. 467.650
f.. 467.675
g.. 467.700
h.. 467.725
GMRS and FRS are both citizens band allocations. GMRS is a licensed radio
service, authorizing higher power and flexibility. FRS is unlicensed, with
significant restrictions. FRS frequencies are interleaved with GMRS
frequencies. GMRS radios are also authorized to transmit on FRS channels 1
to 7 with no more than 5 watts and using 5 KHz deviation. GMRS uses 467
MHz frequencies as repeater input channels. All FRS channels are simplex,
with 3 Khz deviation and 500 milliwatts. Channel MHz Channel MHz
GMRS 462.550 GMRS 467.550 FRS#1 462.5625 FRS#8 467.5625 GMRS
462.575 GMRS 467.575 FRS#2 462.5875 FRS#9 467.5875 GMRS
462.600 GMRS 467.600 FRS#3 462.6125 FRS#10 467.6125 GMRS
462.625 GMRS 467.625 FRS#4 462.6375 FRS#11 467.6375 GMRS
462.650 GMRS 467.650 FRS#5 462.6625 FRS#12 467.6625 GMRS
462.675 GMRS 467.675 FRS#6 462.6875 FRS#13 467.6875 GMRS
462.700 GMRS 467.700 FRS#7 462.7125 FRS#14 467.7125 GMRS
462.725 GMRS 467.725
Common FRS Tone Frequencies
Note- Not all FRS/GMRS radio tone channels are the same! When using
"mixed" radio types, test them with tone first, or turn tone "OFF". Tone
PL Cherokee Cobra Midland Motorola Motorola RadioShack Freq Code
465 250/300 75-510 TalkAbout Sport 106 none -- -- 0 0 0 -- --
67.0 XZ 1 1 1 1 -- 1 69.3 WZ 2 -- -- -- -- --
9.4 -- -- -- -- -- -- 2 71.9 XA 3 2 2 2 -- 3 74.4 WA 4 3
3 3 -- 4 77.0 XB 5 4 4 4 A 5 79.7 WB 6 5 5 5 -- 6 82.5 YZ
7 6 6 6 -- 7 85.4 YA 8 7 7 7 -- 8 88.5 YB 9 8 8 8 B 9
91.5 ZZ 10 9 9 9 -- 10 94.8 ZA 11 10 10 10 -- 11 97.4 ZB 12
11 11 11 C 12 100.0 1Z 13 12 12 12 -- 13 103.5 1A 14 13 13
13 -- 14 107.2 1B 15 14 14 14 D 15 110.9 2Z 16 15 15 15 --
16 114.8 2A 17 16 16 16 -- 17 118.8 2B 18 17 17 17 E 18
123.0 3Z 19 18 18 18 -- 19 127.3 3A 20 19 19 19 F 20 131.8
3B 21 20 20 20 -- 21 136.5 4Z 22 21 21 21 G 22 141.3 4A 23
22 22 22 -- 23 146.2 4B 24 23 23 23 -- 24 151.4 5Z 25 24 24
24 -- 25 156.7 5A 26 25 25 25 -- 26 159.8 -- 27 -- -- -- --
27 162.2 5B 28 26 26 26 -- 28 165.5 -- -- -- -- -- -- 29
167.9 6Z 29 27 27 27 -- 30 171.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 31 173.8
6A 30 28 28 28 -- 32 177.3 -- -- -- -- -- -- 33 179.9 6B 31
29 29 29 -- 34 183.5 -- 32 -- -- -- -- 35 186.2 7Z 33 30 30
30 -- 36 89.9 -- 34 -- -- -- -- 37 192.8 7A 35 31 31 31 --
38 196.6 -- 36 -- -- -- -- -- 199.5 -- 37 -- -- -- -- --
203.5 M1 38 32 32 32 -- -- 206.5 8Z 39 -- -- -- -- -- 210.7
M2 40 33 33 33 -- -- 218.1 M3 41 34 34 34 -- -- 225.7 M4 42
35 35 35 -- -- 229.1 9Z 43 -- -- -- -- -- 233.6 M5 44 36 36
36 -- -- 241.8 M6 45 37 37 37 -- -- 250.3 M7 46 38 38
8 -- -- 254.1 0Z 47 -- -- -- -- -- Ace - WH2T

5 w, big deal...if you want to run higher power, get a ham license or a
commercial repeater, etc.

Don't get caught by Riley and Co.!

No, just saying be careful!

We had an idiot here in So Cal do the same thing for 2 months -- we found
em -- turned em in
He had a hard time paying the FCC fine and they confiscated all his
equipment
Interlopers are very easy to spot and find.
Hams are very protective of their bands (Guess you are not)
Caveat Pirates

--
ID with held to protect the innocent



"Hans" wrote in message
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5 w, big deal...if you want to run higher power, get a ham license or a
commercial repeater, etc.



I know of a guy who has been operating on 20 meters for
years without his own ham llicense. He just picks out somebody's
call sign and assumes their first name on the air. I've heard him say
it is more fun than freebanding.


Hans
Detroit, MI

OH YEAH -- better get informed -- here is a start
FCC Sends Ex-Ham to the Slammer
from The ARRL Letter / ARRL
Website: http://www.arrl.org on January 26, 2001
View comments about this article!

EX-HAM GETS JAIL, PROBATION FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION

Former amateur Richard Allen Burton this week was sentenced to three months
in jail and one year's probation for unlicensed operation of a radio
transmitter. Burton also must undergo psychological treatment.

Burton was sentenced January 22. The FCC says he'd been operating without a
license on repeaters in Southern California. Burton is scheduled to report
to the US Marshal's office on February 26 to begin serving his jail term. He
has been free on $20,000 bond.

Formerly WB6JAC, Burton, lost his General ticket in 1981 as a result of
unspecified violations. Since then, he's racked up a lengthy history of
alleged unlicensed operation, most or all of it on amateur frequencies. He
has served jail time and probation as a result of earlier convictions.

Burton was arrested last August 5 following his indictment by a federal
grand jury in California. He faced six felony counts of violating the
Communications Act of 1934.



CASE CLOSED
--
ID with held to protect the innocent



"Hans" wrote in message
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"Radio Dawg" wrote in message
news:drjvd.32078$ve.26317@fed1read06...
We had an idiot here in So Cal do the same thing for 2 months -- we found
em -- turned em in
He had a hard time paying the FCC fine and they confiscated all his
equipment
Interlopers are very easy to spot and find.
Hams are very protective of their bands (Guess you are not)
Caveat Pirates

--
ID with held to protect the innocent



In a word, BULL****.


73,

Hans

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-04-1045A1.pdf

--
Sailor



"Hans" wrote in message
...
This same FORGED letter has been circulating around the
internet for a few years.

Repeat, BULL****!

73,

Hans

Who is Riley & Co.?

Hans


Oh, just some guys at the Funny Cookie Corporation....