Lennie said:

After all, when the morse test is eliminated, all those superextras
won't have much to brag about, will they?

I will...I will have been a licensed Amateur Radio Operator 30 + x
years longer than you have, Lennie...That will ALWAYS make it worth it!
Steve, K4YZ

Limiting HF access to CW learned hams limits the flack the FCC gets over BPL.
Typical ploy of those in the know.

Steve
N2UBP

No it don't. And you ain't in the know.

Tnx for playin.

bb

On 29 Dec 2004 20:54:28 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:


snip

I'm just another human male who has accumulated a fairly large
experience in radio-electronics, spending an entire working career
in the electronics industry as well as enjoying a hobby of
electronics for a period longer than having to work at it for a living.
An ordinary human male lucky enough to be married to my
high school sweetheart and with a comfortable (though not great)
income, no longer having to get up and go to work 6 days a week
for any of that. No mortgage, no outstanding liens on property.

Not bad! In fact, that's a pretty good definition of personal success
- achievement of all of the things that really matter. (and the high
school sweetheart too?? Icing on the cake!)

I'm catching up fast - in the meantime, though, I'm a bit jealous

snip



73, Leo

In article , Leo
writes:

On 29 Dec 2004 20:54:28 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:


snip

I'm just another human male who has accumulated a fairly large
experience in radio-electronics, spending an entire working career
in the electronics industry as well as enjoying a hobby of
electronics for a period longer than having to work at it for a living.
An ordinary human male lucky enough to be married to my
high school sweetheart and with a comfortable (though not great)
income, no longer having to get up and go to work 6 days a week
for any of that. No mortgage, no outstanding liens on property.

Not bad! In fact, that's a pretty good definition of personal success
- achievement of all of the things that really matter. (and the high
school sweetheart too?? Icing on the cake!)

That was fun when we went to our Big 50th high school reunion
of the Class of 1951. There was a four-decade no-contact period
between high school graduation and later. I would tell you more
but that is impossible in this particular private chat room
supposedly about amateur radio policy matters.

I'm catching up fast - in the meantime, though, I'm a bit jealous

Don't be. All anyone needs to do is hang around the planet for
a while, plan in advance, and luck out... :-)

In article , (Jeffrey Herman)
writes:


It's paid for with federal funds, thus it's part of the federal interstate
highway system. It's no different from Interstate 405 in California: It
begins in LA and ends in San Diego -- it never leaves the state yet it's
yet it's still an "interstate."

Ooooo...going to lecture me about my local geography? :-)

Try Interstate FIVE as an illustration...begins at the Canadian border
goes all the way south through Washington, Oregon, California, ends
at the Mexican border. Over a kilomile long, takes two days to drive
at lawful speeds. Been there, done that, many times.

Gee, if I wanted a LECTURE on highways, I'd go to the AAA website
of my local auto club office...they give out free maps to us members.


The semester begin tomorrow -- I'll be teaching a calculus class at the
university campus (which is not a "junior college"), 8:30-9:20 MWF,
Keller Hall room 403. The class is full but I'll let you register,
if you think you can handle the class.

Oh, wow.... (a big Ben Stein "wowwww....")

So awfully nice of you, Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer. I'll just go on down to
the nearest ATM, withdraw a few thousand, cross the I-5 over to
Bob Hope Airport and fly over to the Islands...JUST...for the "pleasure"
of hearing you "lecture" on The Calculus! Oh frabjous joy...


Go back and read my complete post, paying attention to the phrase
"...technical best seller."

Go for it! "TECHNICAL" best seller! What year? And who was the
compiler of that gem of information? [was it a bookstore in Newington?]
You might try the ABA or some other book industry associations first
to verify some nonsense claim. Or take off your blinders. Whichever
is easiest.

I've only been USING technical books since 1960 and my first job
assignment as an electronics engineer responsible for new design.
The Green Bible, the Blue Bible, Millman & Taub, Henney, Petersen
and Weldon, Floyd Gardner, lots of names which are very familiar
in my small 30+ foot total length personal bookshelf right above the
immediate computer desk here. Since I already write for money
and know several authors (who work at that full time) plus book
store owners-managers, I have some acquaintenceship with the
professional book associations. Now, if you wish to LECTURE me
on "best sellers" of anything, I will invite you to pass gas on a
shuttle flight ("go take a flying fart") between islands.

===

I think you ought to get back to verifying the claim that the Islands
have ham stations at every police and fire station...or whatever you
wrote. [if you also "lecture" in English, somebody rated you wrong]

You might remind the state government to update their web pages
to show those gems of information...or is that "sensitive" info
for certain people's eyes only? :-)

Riiiight...I can just see a Billion-dollar tourist industry "relying" on ham
radio in Times of Troubles to keep their many lines of communications
going during all those natural disasters that beset the Islands all the
time. Riiiight...and there's no military on the Islands other than the
USCG...not even the USARPAC with their Army callsign ADA. :-)


Accusing me of lying? Are you sure you want to commit libel?

Accuse a MATHEMATICS LECTURER of lying? Heavens no!

Let's just say you don' know no bettah, blalah. :-)

I wouldn't do such terrible things to a kind soul who got a Rhode
Island ham his own "FCC mailing address" in Hawaii.

By the way, how is Mike Deignan? Still busy with all those "ham
clubs" he had callsigns for?

Don't take any wooden pineapples...

Although his gross errors vis-a-vis radio regulations have been
out there for a week now, Lennie can't seem time to retract his error
and apologize for it, like a MAN would.

However he DOES have time to gin-up yet another diversion AROUND
it.

Leonard H. Anderson is a liar.

Leonard H. Anderson is not trustworthy.

Steve, K4YZ

Len of 21 wrote:

In article ,
(Jeffrey Herman)
writes:


It's paid for with federal funds, thus it's part of the federal
interstate
highway system. It's no different from Interstate 405 in California:
It
begins in LA and ends in San Diego -- it never leaves the state yet
it's
yet it's still an "interstate."

Ooooo...going to lecture me about my local geography?

He might as well. You've made errors on geography, topography,
aerography, and a handful of OTHER -phy's before.

Try Interstate FIVE as an illustration...begins at the Canadian
border
goes all the way south through Washington, Oregon, California,
ends
at the Mexican border. Over a kilomile long, takes two days to
drive
at lawful speeds. Been there, done that, many times.

Moving those bales of grass to supplement that income, Lennie?
Don't get caught!

Gee, if I wanted a LECTURE on highways, I'd go to the AAA website
of my local auto club office...they give out free maps to us
members.

I get FREE maps without ANY "membership" from MapQuest.
Step-by-step instructions, if I wanted them.

The semester begin tomorrow -- I'll be teaching a calculus class at
the
university campus (which is not a "junior college"), 8:30-9:20 MWF,
Keller Hall room 403. The class is full but I'll let you register,
if you think you can handle the class.

Oh, wow.... (a big Ben Stein "wowwww....")

I am sure YOU make Ben Stein look like a hula dancer.

So awfully nice of you, Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer.

Ahhhhhhhhh! There's MORE of that "I respect veterans" stuff
Lennie's always bragging on hisself about!~

He BRAGS about it...doesn't do it...

I'll just go on down to
the nearest ATM, withdraw a few thousand, cross the I-5 over to
Bob Hope Airport and fly over to the Islands...JUST...for the
"pleasure"
of hearing you "lecture" on The Calculus! Oh frabjous joy...

A few thousand...?!?! Sheesh, Lennie...even I can get to and
back from Hawaii for less than ONE thousand, and still have a couple
bucks for a decent night's lodgings and local cuisine.

What's YOUR problem?

Go back and read my complete post, paying attention to the phrase
"...technical best seller."

Go for it! "TECHNICAL" best seller! What year? And who was the
compiler of that gem of information? [was it a bookstore in
Newington?]
You might try the ABA or some other book industry associations
first
to verify some nonsense claim. Or take off your blinders.
Whichever
is easiest.

I can gaurantee you the name on the book is NOT "Leonard H.
Anderson!"

An unknown. Not even recognized in his own peer-group, let alone
the shelves of B.Dalton Bookseller or Barnes & Noble! Forced to
"write" some dubiously original items for an Amateur Radio journal
(since defunct) to get his name in print.

Some "professional".

I've only been USING technical books since 1960...

WHOA THERE YOUR SCUMMINESS ! ! !

What happened to all those magnificent years as the World's
Greatest Military Communicator! from 1953 to 1956...?!?!

You just memorized all those manuals and never again opened one
up...?!?!

....and my first job
assignment as an electronics engineer responsible for new design.

Lessee...YOU stated that you went to night school for 14 years to
earn a degree.

NO ONE is titled an "electronics engineer" without at LEAST an
Bachelor's Degree.

So...we have you in the Armed Forces from 1953 to 1956 (Active
Duty). You've enthralled us with a litany of other petty jobs in that
four year span from 56 to 60 before, NONE of which included enough
college to get you a Bachelor's in ANY discipline, let alone electrical
engineering.

NOW you're insinuating that you were an "electrical engineer" in
1960...?!?!

And one allegedly responsible for "new design"...?!?!

The math and your previous rants don't add up, Putzman!

The Green Bible, the Blue Bible, Millman & Taub, Henney, Petersen
and Weldon, Floyd Gardner, lots of names which are very familiar
in my small 30+ foot total length personal bookshelf right above
the
immediate computer desk here. Since I already write for money
and know several authors (who work at that full time) plus book
store owners-managers, I have some acquaintenceship with the
professional book associations.

I am sure you have many, many pretty books...You MIGHT even take
them down once in a while to look a the pictures. Dust them off
occassionally with Mrs Putzman's correspondence courses, no doubt?

Now, if you wish to LECTURE me
on "best sellers" of anything, I will invite you to pass gas on a
shuttle flight ("go take a flying fart") between islands.

More of that "professional respect" stuff that Lennie brags about.

He doesn't DO it, mind you, but he DOES BRAG about it!

I think you ought to get back to verifying the claim that the
Islands
have ham stations at every police and fire station...or whatever
you
wrote. [if you also "lecture" in English, somebody rated you
wrong]

"...or whatever you wrote".

Uh huh. Trying to shoot from the hip again, Lennie...?!?! That
only works in John Wayne movies, and YOU ain't John Wayne!

You might remind the state government to update their web pages
to show those gems of information...or is that "sensitive" info
for certain people's eyes only? :-)

Riiiight...I can just see a Billion-dollar tourist industry
"relying" on ham
radio in Times of Troubles to keep their many lines of
communications
going during all those natural disasters that beset the Islands
all the
time. Riiiight...and there's no military on the Islands other
than the
USCG...not even the USARPAC with their Army callsign ADA.

Somehow you KNOW he had to work in a refrence to "ADA".

Accusing me of lying? Are you sure you want to commit libel?

Accuse a MATHEMATICS LECTURER of lying? Heavens no!

Let's just say you don' know no bettah, blalah.

So far, the one who doesn't "know no bettah"...is the ALLEGED
"radio professional" who doesn't seem to know some very basic things
about radio regulations.

I wouldn't do such terrible things to a kind soul who got a Rhode
Island ham his own "FCC mailing address" in Hawaii.

By the way, how is Mike Deignan? Still busy with all those "ham
clubs" he had callsigns for?

One things for certain...

You STILL don't have the basic requirements to be the control
operator of ANY club station.

Don't take any wooden pineapples...

We WOULD, however, like to suggest you increase your daily intake
of Geritol.

Steve, K4YZ

Len Over 21 wrote:

(Jeffrey Herman) writes:
It's paid for with federal funds, thus it's part of the federal interstate
highway system. It's no different from Interstate 405 in California: It
begins in LA and ends in San Diego -- it never leaves the state yet it's
yet it's still an "interstate."

Ooooo...going to lecture me about my local geography? :-)

You bet. You falsely claimed as fact that an interstate must connect
two or more states, and I provided a counterexample proving you wrong.
But instead of saying, "Thanks, Jeff, for correcting me", you try to
run away from your error by taking us on a tour of I-5:

Try Interstate FIVE as an illustration...

One example is not enough to prove a proposition true, especially when
a counterexample exists.

I've noticed you do this a lot -- when a claim of your's has been proven
false, instead of acknowledging your mistake, you attack the responder
and go off on some unrelated tangent:

begins at the Canadian border
goes all the way south through Washington, Oregon, California, ends
begins at the Canadian border
goes all the way south through Washington, Oregon, California, ends
at the Mexican border. Over a kilomile long, takes two days to drive
at lawful speeds. Been there, done that, many times.

And here comes the sarcastic remark:

Gee, if I wanted a LECTURE on highways, I'd go to the AAA website
of my local auto club office...they give out free maps to us members.

You're too easy to predict.

Also, it's not "your" local geography -- I grew up in San Clemente,
fought wildland fires all over the Southland while on the SCFD and
CDF, and currently own a home in Ventura County (VC property tax web
site will verify that).

Jeff KH6O
--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

Len Over 21 wrote:

(Jeffrey Herman) writes:
The semester begin tomorrow -- I'll be teaching a calculus class at the
university campus (which is not a "junior college"), 8:30-9:20 MWF,
Keller Hall room 403. The class is full but I'll let you register,
if you think you can handle the class.

Oh, wow.... (a big Ben Stein "wowwww....")


There you go again. You make a false claim, then you're proven wrong
(go to http://myuhportal.hawaii.edu to view all the classes I'm teaching
this semester), yet instead of acknowledging your mistake, you attack the
responder:

So awfully nice of you, Mr. Petty Chief Ossifer. I'll just go on down to
the nearest ATM, withdraw a few thousand, cross the I-5 over to
Bob Hope Airport and fly over to the Islands...JUST...for the "pleasure"
of hearing you "lecture" on The Calculus! Oh frabjous joy...

Heck, I'll even set up an online course just for you, for free. I'd be
interested in seeing if you could pass such a class. How about it, Len?
Do you think you could handle calculus? We could post your homework and
exam scores here on the NG to show everyone how smart you are.

Jeff KH6O
--
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Coast Guard
Mathematics Lecturer, University of Hawaii System

"Jeffrey Herman" wrote in message
...

:
: Heck, I'll even set up an online course just for you, for free. I'd be
: interested in seeing if you could pass such a class. How about it, Len?
: Do you think you could handle calculus? We could post your homework and
: exam scores here on the NG to show everyone how smart you are.
:

LenOver will spin-cycle awhile b4 answering.

M.A.N.
--
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: "O Lord,
make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it."
- Voltaire