In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are trying
to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of any
who are against the morse code test.

Hmm, you possibly could:

Start a Morse code thread

I have.

Try to refrain from the pejoratives

Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.

So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.

You never know what might happen.

Sorry, sweetums, I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.

Then again, I suspect you enjoy things just the way they are. 8^)

You are WRONG. The PCTA just can't take opposing views
on the morse code test. They get so very bitchy and angry
and demand to get all who argue against the retention that it
becomes a repeated comedy of brainwashing phrases by them.

No problem on my replying in kind to the PCTA...if I have the
time to spend on their trite, tired, tintabulation of olde-tyme
phrases. I'm busy with lots of other things, but I can find time
once in a while to puncture their arrogant balloons of old, stale,
hot air.



Posted on 18 Jan 05

Lenof21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are
trying
to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of
any
who are against the morse code test.

Hmm, you possibly could:

Start a Morse code thread

I have.

Actually, in most cases, you take threas on other topics and try
to insert a Morse Code redirect.

People don't want to discuss Morse Code testing anymore because
most people (those who read something OTHER than their own work...)
know that the issue is moot at this point. Nothing else stated in this
forum will change Federal policy.

Try to refrain from the pejoratives

Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.

Yet another monumental lie.

Neither Jim Miccolis nor Mike Coslo do anything of the kind, yet
you pour it over Jim like molasses, and you've started in on Mike.

You did it to me, you'v done it to EVERYone who's ever dared to
suggest that YOUR opinion doesn't match theirs.

You do it on a whim, then cry foul when it gets fed back to YOU.

So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of
themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.

Sorry Lennie...it's the level at which you function, and I'd hate
to leave you out of the conversations.

You never know what might happen.

Sorry, sweetums...(SNIP)

Point made.

I have yet to see Mike refr to you by anything other than your
expressed preferred names.

Thanks for proving my point right here in THIS post (as if I would
have had to wait long anyway.....)

(UNSNIP)...I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.

And they just got a prime example of why everyone else in this
newsgoup is justified in their opinion of you and why you are a
disreputable liar.

Thanks.

Then again, I suspect you enjoy things just the way they are. 8^)

You are WRONG.

IF Mike had been wrong, you would have continued to address
him with out the insulting diminutives and "endearments".

The PCTA just can't take opposing views
on the morse code test. They get so very bitchy and angry
and demand to get all who argue against the retention that it
becomes a repeated comedy of brainwashing phrases by them.

Actually the comedy comes from watching a pathological liar
continue to make excuses for his lies and misdeeds, only to get caught
up in even MORE lies and misdeeds.

No problem on my replying in kind to the PCTA...if I have the
time to spend on their trite, tired, tintabulation of olde-tyme
phrases.

Then why the continued use of diminutives against people who do
not do it to you?

Why do you insist that you ONLY do it to people who do it to you,
when there's almost a decades worth of evidence to the contrary with
Jim Miccolis alone, and now you have started in on Mike Coslo.

I'm busy with lots of other things...(SNIP)

No you're not. There's not one iota of any evidence in any other
forum of a single contructive effort with your name attached to it.

You're an egotistical, mean old man with nothing left to do in his
life except make other people as miserable as you are.

(UNSNIP)...but I can find time
once in a while to puncture their arrogant balloons of old, stale,
hot air.

You can TRY, but so far all you've done is prove what WE have been
saying all along.

Leonard H. Anderson is a liar.

Leonard H. Anderson is untrustworthy.

Leonard H. Anderson is deceitful.

And it's Leonard H. Anderson who provides the proof of the
accusations.

Thanks.

You've single handedly done more to undermine your "advocacy" than
any other VALID arguments could ahve done.

Who wants to be associated with an issue that is so voiciferously
and embarassingly represented by the likes of you...??? Just do the
world a favor and stay away from such issues as finding an AIDS
vaccine, cures for cancer, or preventing birth defects.
Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:


Oh, this was one of Len's more polite and rational posts, Mike. At
least in this one, I'm not painted as a Nazi.


Tsk. You don't need "paint." You IS.

So you are saying that Dave is a Nazi?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:



I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are trying
to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of any
who are against the morse code test.

Hmm, you possibly could:

Start a Morse code thread


I have.


Try to refrain from the pejoratives


Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.

So when have I insulted you? You aren't considering disagreement as
insulting are you?


So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.

Bill Sohl seems to have escaped that fate when he posts here.

You never know what might happen.


Sorry, sweetums, I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.

Chicken and egg syndrome? Given the history of posters here, I would
suspect that if you were to adopt a different strategy, there would be
some posts that would be provoking. However, if ignored, that stuff goes
away.


Then again, I suspect you enjoy things just the way they are. 8^)


You are WRONG.

Seriously? You don't enjoy tweaking people? So another description of
what you are doing is that you are engaging in something that you hate
to do, in the interests of eliminating the Morse code test, in a Usenet
newsgroup? Are you making some sort of Quixotic sacrifice in a Usenet
newsgroup in an attempt to eliminate Morse code testing?

The PCTA just can't take opposing views
on the morse code test. They get so very bitchy and angry
and demand to get all who argue against the retention that it
becomes a repeated comedy of brainwashing phrases by them.

No problem on my replying in kind to the PCTA...if I have the
time to spend on their trite, tired, tintabulation of olde-tyme
phrases. I'm busy with lots of other things, but I can find time
once in a while to puncture their arrogant balloons of old, stale,
hot air.

All the arguments are old and we've heard them a lot. From both sides.

- Mike KB3EIA

Mike Coslo wrote:

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:


Oh, this was one of Len's more polite and rational posts, Mike. At
least in this one, I'm not painted as a Nazi.


Tsk. You don't need "paint." You IS.

So you are saying that Dave is a Nazi?

It looks that way to me. Len doesn't play well with others.

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

Lenof21 wrote:


In article , Dave Heil
writes:



Oh, this was one of Len's more polite and rational posts, Mike. At
least in this one, I'm not painted as a Nazi.


Tsk. You don't need "paint." You IS.

So you are saying that Dave is a Nazi?


It looks that way to me. Len doesn't play well with others.

Hmm, some things are not to be said even in jest. I guess Mr. Godwin
just handed you a free lifetime pass.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

Lenof21 wrote:


In article , Dave Heil
writes:



Oh, this was one of Len's more polite and rational posts, Mike. At
least in this one, I'm not painted as a Nazi.


Tsk. You don't need "paint." You IS.

So you are saying that Dave is a Nazi?


It looks that way to me. Len doesn't play well with others.

Hmm, some things are not to be said even in jest. I guess Mr. Godwin
just handed you a free lifetime pass.

You see, Mike, this is just another occasion in which Len has done the
things he says he never does. To balance things out, he often doesn't
do the things he says he'll do.

Dave K8MN

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:



I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are trying
to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of any
who are against the morse code test.

Hmm, you possibly could:

Start a Morse code thread


I have.


Try to refrain from the pejoratives


Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.

So when have I insulted you? You aren't considering disagreement as
insulting are you?


So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.

Bill Sohl seems to have escaped that fate when he posts here.

You never know what might happen.


Sorry, sweetums, I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.

Chicken and egg syndrome? Given the history of posters here, I would
suspect that if you were to adopt a different strategy, there would be
some posts that would be provoking. However, if ignored, that stuff goes
away.

Given the "history of posters here," especially the PCTA extras,
your good idea is merely impractical bull****.

PCTA extras all pretend to be "superior" and let everyone know it.


Then again, I suspect you enjoy things just the way they are. 8^)


You are WRONG.

Seriously? You don't enjoy tweaking people?

The "tweaking" is easy for me to do. Most of the postings I do
simply "write themselves." :-)

You seem to forget that I've had a long career of working in electronics.
Electrons (in electronics) do NOT get influenced by human desires.
All humans who work with electrons have to play be electron's rules.
I enjoy that kind of work. It appears cold, hard, logical but can be
quite creative once you learn electron's rules. Once that is done, they
CAN follow human orders.

The odd part of human nature is that the PCTA extras think that all
must follow Their rules, obey them, etc., and some get quite
fanciful in imagining the "motivations" of the NCTA.

So another description of
what you are doing is that you are engaging in something that you hate
to do, in the interests of eliminating the Morse code test, in a Usenet
newsgroup?

Incorrect. Your speculation is nonsense.

You forget that many more readers follow what goes on in here.
They, too, can see/read the propaganda nonsense about the
nobility and efficacy of morse code and the alleged "necessity"
of the amateur radio morse code test. Those readers need a bit
of boost on the reasons AGAINST it. Myself and others have
presented opposing reasons for that code test.

Are you making some sort of Quixotic sacrifice in a Usenet
newsgroup in an attempt to eliminate Morse code testing?

No. If you will bother to read the 18 petitions at the FCC you
would see that it isn't some Cervantes fictional character
exercise...but, some of the proponents of the code test are
indeed human windmills whirling in dead air.

The PCTA just can't take opposing views
on the morse code test. They get so very bitchy and angry
and demand to get all who argue against the retention that it
becomes a repeated comedy of brainwashing phrases by them.

No problem on my replying in kind to the PCTA...if I have the
time to spend on their trite, tired, tintabulation of olde-tyme
phrases. I'm busy with lots of other things, but I can find time
once in a while to puncture their arrogant balloons of old, stale,
hot air.

All the arguments are old and we've heard them a lot. From both sides.

Poor baby. You seem distressed. Or perhaps your lordship
wishes better entertainment?

Here is a suggestion for your lordship: Use your amateur radio
license and operate your mighty transceiver on the air instead of
accessing this newsgroup. Chat with other human beings (or what
passes for same).

Or, your lordship could take the lead and open up a real Chat Room
all about morse code on amateur radio and how wonderful it is and
that morsemanship should be done by all the "superior" beings. You
could develop a real following and become a Name in Chat Room
circles, get known, develop a "rep." Or even a website where you
could post "awards" given by the certificate makers and praise
yourself for being so damn good.

This is NOT a "Chat Room" for idle gossip and cracker-barrel
philosophy by a few regulars who have grown overly full of themselves.
Even though they think they own the place (and can therefore dictate
who gets to sit in), they don't. True. They don't even when their
feathers get very ruffled by opposing opinions. (poor things...)

Morse code is an old, primitive communications mode. The first
morse code was used in 1844...on a commercial wired system, not
on radio (radio had yet to be proved to exist). Early radio used on-
off keying codes because that was the ONLY practical way to
communicate given that there were no vacuum tubes and certainly
no transistors. Primitive stuff that was first demonstrated in 1896.
What passes for truisms about morse code "superiority" as
spouted by the ARRL was formed in the 1930s, seven decades ago.
Of course the reasons to maintain morse code testing are OLD.

The silly part of it is that so many olde-tymers insist that the old
is "best" and that nothing should change. They can't devise any
good reasons to keep that code test, nothing new during the seven
decades they've tried. All those reasons are tired, trite, cliches'
and the reasons against them are true, familiar, easy to repeat.
Again, refutation of the pro-code-test-advocates' "reasons" almost
"write themselves."

The only thing "new" with the PCTA extras is their propensity for
"replying" by personal insults against the NCTA. All NCTA are
"inferior" to them and their mighty accomplishments with morse.
In short, they are so full of themselves that they cannot accept
any others' inputs. They are stuffed and over-stuffed. Some go to
the bursting point. Two former PCTA extras in here may have
done just that. Other PCTA extras are expected to follow.

Perhaps you should go to Church more often...such as to the
Church of St. Hiram, the patron saint of Newington. There you
could mass with other morsemen and celebrate the mode in
chorus with a heavenly choir. Wash your brain regularly lest all
the old, tired, trite cliches' fall out. By all means, exercise your
morsemanship regularly to be ready for the Second Coming of
Aliens so you can defeat them via morse code and thereby
Save the World. After all, you are "superior" through morse code.



Posted on 19 Jan 05

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:



I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are
trying
to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of
any
who are against the morse code test.

Hmm, you possibly could:

Start a Morse code thread


I have.


Try to refrain from the pejoratives


Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.

So when have I insulted you? You aren't considering disagreement as

insulting are you?


So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of
themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.

Bill Sohl seems to have escaped that fate when he posts here.

You never know what might happen.


Sorry, sweetums, I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.

Chicken and egg syndrome? Given the history of posters here, I
would
suspect that if you were to adopt a different strategy, there would
be
some posts that would be provoking. However, if ignored, that stuff
goes
away.

Given the "history of posters here," especially the PCTA extras,
your good idea is merely impractical bull****.

In your very first sentence of reply, Lennie, you prove Mike
correct.

The "impracticality" comes from YOUR unwillingness to stop lying,
deceiving and being antagonistic. It's just not in what little bit of
a character you have to do....

And your use of emphatic profanity to try and "make your point"
only further serves to demonstrate just how angry you get when someone
makes such a well said and valid observation.

You've been bested once again, Lennie, and it cuts to the core.
Bravo, Mike

Steve, K4YZ

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:

Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

Oh, this was one of Len's more polite and rational posts, Mike. At
least in this one, I'm not painted as a Nazi.

Tsk. You don't need "paint." You IS.

That was posted on the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. A
message is in there, someplace.

So you are saying that Dave is a Nazi?

It looks that way to me. Len doesn't play well with others.

Hmm, some things are not to be said even in jest. I guess Mr. Godwin
just handed you a free lifetime pass.

Mike, there's a long history of Len using that sort of imagery when writing
here. Although Len will sometimes use smileys or dismiss it as a joke, it isn't
funny.

As you have experienced yourself, Len considers disagreement with his cherished
views, pointing out his mistakes, or criticizing his behavior here to be an
insult to him personally.

73 de Jim, N2EY