Mike Coslo wrote:

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he
deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!

Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?

If you'll check out his latest rant in this thread, you'll see
that Lennie doesn't like much of anyone.

He has something ugly to say about each of us... He comes into an
Amateur Radio forum, is ugly to and dishonest in his representations of
Amateurs, then wonders why no one wants to be his pal.
73

Steve, K4YZ

Mike Coslo wrote:

If Lennie were to spend as much time on Amateur Radio as he does
dissing Radio Amateurs, he'd get the recognition he THINKS he
deserves
now...But, we all know THAT won't happen...!

Doesn't appear to like too many Hams, does he?

If you'll check out his latest rant in this thread, you'll see
that Lennie doesn't like much of anyone.

He has something ugly to say about each of us... He comes into an
Amateur Radio forum, is ugly to and dishonest in his representations of
Amateurs, then wonders why no one wants to be his pal.
73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into
the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made
it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.

Brian, I know that for what ever reason...maybe it's just to root
for the underdog, you've "sided" with Lennie.

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

Lennie can rant and rave about "PCTA Extras" or "Mighty Morsemen"
all he wants, but his circumstances are his OWN doing, and part of
that
"doing" was trying to get by on the works of others.
And that now includes you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

But, but, but...

I've never written for a professional radio journal, so Len can hardly
ride my coattails.

"Mike Coslo" wrote in part ...

"In another post, I went back through a few weeks messages to find the cute
little nicknames that LenOver21 makes up for people. I was pretty impressed
with the volume, but I know I didn't get them all. I came up with 21
nicknames. In the interest of not leaving anyone out who may have received
one of his monikers, let's add to the list he"

_________________________________________________

Hey Mike,

Lenwayoverthehill21 used to call me all sorts of things from brownshirt to
Herr Inspector. Rather humorous, really. I think he blocked me, but just
in case he is "listening", I was just promoted again. And yes, I just love
my blackberry :-))

KT4ST

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses
the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea
into
the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made
it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.

Brian, I know that for what ever reason...maybe it's just to root
for the underdog, you've "sided" with Lennie.

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS
own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

Lennie can rant and rave about "PCTA Extras" or "Mighty Morsemen"
all he wants, but his circumstances are his OWN doing, and part of
that
"doing" was trying to get by on the works of others.
And that now includes you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

But, but, but...

I've never written for a professional radio journal, so Len can
hardly
ride my coattails.

Let's repeat the paragraph in question, Brian, and then YOU can
tell ME what YOUR lack of being published in ANY forum has to do with
it...

QUOTE:

But myself and a dozen other people have been TRYING to tell you
that Lennie is all-about making OTHER people's work HIS
own...That's
partly why Lennie was disinvited from working in Pennsylvania, and
partly why you won't find his name as "author" in any professional
"radio"
journals...At least not since 1980.

UNQUOTE

The statement said that Lennie has a history of taking other
people's work. He proved it in his warping of your "endearment". He
didn't even give you, his one and only NG "buddy", credit for the work.

So....What does YOUR lack of publishing credits have to do with
Lennie's irresponsible and unprofessional behaviour.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Len Anderson wrote:

In article .com, "bb"
writes:

Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.

Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly earned
by all parties. :-)

....by the official arbiter of such things--Leonard H. Anderson, a
non-radio amateur.

Actually, "Avenging Angle" applies to nearly all PCTA extras.

Actually, it doesn't.

All are self-righeously Right even if they aren't in a triangle of being oh-so-superior to NCTAs.

Actually, they aren't. I'm sure it seems that way to an outsider with
an ax to grind.

All who don't worship at the Church of
St. Hiram are, to them, heretics and infidels, unworthy of surviving
on the same planet as the PCTA. They are all Right Angles but
perpendicular to the plane of existance of reality of today.

Actually, there is no "Church of St. Hiram". You may continue to live
on the planet but you aren't involved in amateur radio.

Much earlier in here I'd made mention of one Elfren Saldivar (hope
name is correct), the "Angle of Death" at Glendale Memorial
Hospital in this area. He was a nurse who offed a bunch of
elderly patients "to ease their suffering." Lots of them. Registered
nurse with certificates and everything... Sound familiar? :-)

No, it doesn't sound familiar to anyone here. We don't have a nurse who
has killed any patients.

So...we've got the "forever marine" spending the weekend shouting
epithets using pejoratives not in his ethnic experience, always
being the "avenger" for the "service."

"We've got"? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket?

We've got the prissy never-
served busy acting like Nun of the Above, rapping the knuckles of
any who don't agree with him (or her).

Shouldn't that be "message knuckles"?

We've got the "forever ham"
of four decades hamming it up into great "superiority" but who
never learned a thing about diplomacy in the State Department
"foreign service."

I've not been a ham forever. I've been a ham for over four decades and
I'm not quite 56. If I'd been a ham for two days, I'd be your superior
in amateur radio. You aren't a radio amateur. I learned plenty about
diplomacy in the Foreign Service, not "foreign service" though that was
not my area of expertise. Nothing compels me to suffer rude churls.
Finally, it is not the "State Department 'foreign service'" but the
Foreign Service of the United States. Don't you get anything right?

We've got the "university lecturer" who survives
the terrible storms that regularly destroy everything in Hawaii
except the ham rigs and assists other hams in regards to USPS
addresses.

Why is "university lecturer" in quotes, Leonard? Are you being forced
by your nature to live up to the N2EY profile?

We have the coslonaut who wanted hearty
congratulations for a feat he hasn't yet begun but was upset when
he didn't get it.

Aren't you stretching the truth more than a little? Weren't you, in
fact, one who told him that his proposed feat couldn't be done? Didn't
you launch into a lengthy diatribe only to have to eat your words when
evidence was presented which contradicted your claims?

A nice jolly group of down-lookers in their own
PCTA "blog" happily giving each other high-fives for being so
intrinisically superior to all others.

This isn't a blog, Leonard and no one here has suggested that he is
superior to all others.

The major "superiority" attribute
is cussing out "civilians" not possessing the right ham hobby
papers to show to their raddio kopp schutzstaffel.

It isn't that you don't have the right papers, Len. It is that you have
no credentials in amateur radio. You aren't a part of amateur radio.
You play no role in amateur radio. You aren't involved in amateur
radio.
Oh yeah, Godwin invoked.

They can flog each other in this blog for all I care. [some do]

This isn't a blog and you must certainly care. You've shown up here for
a long, long time.


All their little names are familiar to all who look into this blog.

This isn't a blog and you've generated more "little names" than everyone
else here combined.

[it long since dropped out as a discussion place, became a chat
room reserved for their highnesses, a group blog] They've
worked hard at earning all those names and should be proud of
them. :-)

This isn't a chat room and it isn't a blog. :-)

Godwin's observation as the catalyst of their being compared to
the national socialist party of 1930s Germany applies in the truest
form. They gas back and forth so much in the group blog that
they need their own chambers. [again deserved by them]

Well, there you have it.

As to amateur radio policy, only the newsgroup name has any
relevation to "ham radio." They ham it up, not on radio, not on
any "airwaves," only on computers, saved from direct physical
harm through time and distance by insulting all who don't agree
with them. Hear them roar! :-)

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not. The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not. By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm? Did you plan to bore us to death?

Dave K8MN

Dave Heil wrote:
Len Anderson wrote:

In article .com, "bb"
writes:


Oops, sorry about that Brian. I suspect there will be a few missed
attributes in the list.

Actually, Mike, you were correct...So was Brian...Brian uses the
"Avenging Angel", however Lennie twists an already dumb idea into the
more dumberest "Angle".

Oh, I missed that. Looks like he he's added a new twist and made it
his own. Probably patentable. Awesome.

Brian, those tongue-in-cheek satiric appelations were justly earned
by all parties. :-)


...by the official arbiter of such things--Leonard H. Anderson, a
non-radio amateur.


Actually, "Avenging Angle" applies to nearly all PCTA extras.


Actually, it doesn't.


All are self-righeously Right even if they aren't in a triangle of being oh-so-superior to NCTAs.


Actually, they aren't. I'm sure it seems that way to an outsider with
an ax to grind.


All who don't worship at the Church of
St. Hiram are, to them, heretics and infidels, unworthy of surviving
on the same planet as the PCTA. They are all Right Angles but
perpendicular to the plane of existance of reality of today.


Actually, there is no "Church of St. Hiram". You may continue to live
on the planet but you aren't involved in amateur radio.


Much earlier in here I'd made mention of one Elfren Saldivar (hope
name is correct), the "Angle of Death" at Glendale Memorial
Hospital in this area. He was a nurse who offed a bunch of
elderly patients "to ease their suffering." Lots of them. Registered
nurse with certificates and everything... Sound familiar? :-)


No, it doesn't sound familiar to anyone here. We don't have a nurse who
has killed any patients.


So...we've got the "forever marine" spending the weekend shouting
epithets using pejoratives not in his ethnic experience, always
being the "avenger" for the "service."


"We've got"? Do you have a Vibroplex in your pocket?


We've got the prissy never-
served busy acting like Nun of the Above, rapping the knuckles of
any who don't agree with him (or her).


Shouldn't that be "message knuckles"?


We've got the "forever ham"
of four decades hamming it up into great "superiority" but who
never learned a thing about diplomacy in the State Department
"foreign service."


I've not been a ham forever. I've been a ham for over four decades and
I'm not quite 56. If I'd been a ham for two days, I'd be your superior
in amateur radio. You aren't a radio amateur. I learned plenty about
diplomacy in the Foreign Service, not "foreign service" though that was
not my area of expertise. Nothing compels me to suffer rude churls.
Finally, it is not the "State Department 'foreign service'" but the
Foreign Service of the United States. Don't you get anything right?


We've got the "university lecturer" who survives
the terrible storms that regularly destroy everything in Hawaii
except the ham rigs and assists other hams in regards to USPS
addresses.


Why is "university lecturer" in quotes, Leonard? Are you being forced
by your nature to live up to the N2EY profile?


We have the coslonaut who wanted hearty
congratulations for a feat he hasn't yet begun but was upset when
he didn't get it.


Aren't you stretching the truth more than a little? Weren't you, in
fact, one who told him that his proposed feat couldn't be done? Didn't
you launch into a lengthy diatribe only to have to eat your words when
evidence was presented which contradicted your claims?

Since we're on the subject, who on earth would think I was looking for
congratulations on something I hadn't done? That's weird. My ill fated
attempt to garner a few ideas in the group was simply that.

It was a failure in that respect. But as in all things, there is good to
be taken away from it. Just a little personal practice in dealing with
the obtuse or deliberately antagonistic. Those involved may choose which
one they want to be.

And for those who think it was some kind of stupidity to expect
anything other than obtuseness or deliberate antagonism, the chance was
offered to act otherwise. That a person would choose that puts them in
league with the bottom dwellers of the group.

Don't like it? Too bad, deal with it.

- Mike KB3EIA -

In article , Dave Heil Kolonel Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily orders:

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.

* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!

Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.

There is NO appeal.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.

repeat of standing orders effective immediately

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?

...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner! :-)

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room." :-)

Did you plan to bore us to death?

No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead. :-)

RIP

Len Anderson wrote:
In article , Dave Heil Kolonel
Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and
polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily
orders:

Yet more assinine, childish analogies to the Nazis.

Just like we've been saying all along.

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur
radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.

* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!

ACHTUNG ACHTUNG ACHTUNG

Effective since the creation of the FRC and the institution of
Amateur Radio licensing, it has been forbidden for unlicensed persons
to use the Amateur Bands.

Another Regulatory matter you skipped over, Lennie.

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you radio
rules at professional radio school?

Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes
Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.

Not shot, however the FCC has demonstrated a willingness to seek
the incarcertaion of those who violate their rules.

Your age might get you off of jail time, but your income, alleged
summer home, etc, will ensure that the price of the NAL sticks. Too
many assets to claim poverty.

There is NO appeal.

Sure there is...even for the UNappealing such as yourself.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.

repeat of standing orders effective immediately

Repeat of reminder of rules that those unlicensed commissioners
you are always ballyhooing about have enacted and enforce.

Those rules apply even to the UNlicensed (alleged) professionals
such as yourself.

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?

...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner!

Not from THIS "PCTA extra". If I dicharge a firearm, I can
promise one and all that whatever I am aiming at will get hit WHERE I
am aiming at.

The first time.

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all
over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room."

What you "fire" doesn't "ricochet", Lennie...more like "SPLAT".

Malodorous, too.

Did you plan to bore us to death?

No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try
and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead.

Nope...That's your schtick, Lennie.

RIP


Oh Lennie! You KNEW how long I've been waiting to see "RIP" over
your name! Thanks!

Steve, K4YZ

Len "Foghorn Lenhorn" Anderson, self-anointed but non-appointed advocate
for something or other, having nothing better to do wrote:

In article , Dave Heil Kolonel Klunk uff
das uber-amateur staffel put on his newly cleaned uniform and polished
boots, adjusted his monocle and swacked the podium with his riding
crop to silence all conversation, get attention to bark out daily orders:

Nope, you have it wrong again. The rest of us may discuss amateur radio
policy here or on the amateur bands. You may not.

* ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG * ACHTUNG *

Effective immediately, ALL persons without a valid amateur radio
licenses are FORBIDDEN to discuss, write, or even think about
amateur radio subjects!

Violators will be arrested, imprisoned, convicted of Crimes Against
the State (as soon as the judges finish their DX contacts with
illegal Frenchmen), and shot.

There is NO appeal.

You'll have to content yourself with carrying out your self-anointed
advocacy for something or other here, Leonard. Your lack of an amateur
radio license prevents you from doing it on the ham bands. You do as
you can, the rest of us will do as we like.

The rest of us may
discuss anything on the amateur bands. You may not.

repeat of standing orders effective immediately

Face it, Leonard, this is your only forum and nobody is paying your
views on the regulation of amateur radio much credence here. Did you
notice the lack of response from those lurkers you wrote of earlier?

By the way, did
you mean that if we were in the room with you, we'd be in danger of
direct physical harm?

...only from all the PCTA extras shooting themselves in the foot
with their arrogant, dictatorial manner! :-)

That's funny. When you wrote, "They ham it up, not on radio, not on
any 'airwaves,' only on computers, saved from direct physical
harm through time and distance by insulting all who don't agree
with them." it didn't seem to refer to PCTA Extras doing anything to
each other.

All sorts of small-caliber projectiles have been ricocheting all over
and a distinct danger to all in that "room." :-)

What room? :-) Do you fancy yourself a large caliber guy? :-)

Did you plan to bore us to death?

No, Kolonel Klunk, you do that SO well. Far be it for me to try and
upstage das Grate, Full Dead. :-)

:-) :-) That doesn't make sense, Leonard. How can I be "saved in time
and distance from direct physical harm" from myself? :-) :-)

Enough of that. We still don't have a nurse who has killed patients.

The Marine among us seems to have a pretty solid understanding of how to
use the word "putz".

Our "university lecturer" is actually a university lecturer.

Jim isn't female nor a nun. You come off as being the prissy one.

I've not been a ham forever though I'm certain that more than forty
years sounds like a long time to one who has never obtained an amateur
radio license.

My specialty in the Foreign Service was communications, not diplomacy.
If it is diplomacy you want, drop Dr. Rice a line. I should warn you
though that she doesn't seem the type to put up with your foolish little
old man routine either.

Mike Coslo wrote of sending a helium-filled balloon to 100,000 feet. No
wishes for congratulations on a before or after basis were written by
him. You did, however, tell him that it couldn't be done. That
statement
really came back to bite you in the can. You get quite a number of
things wrong.

You have no right to suggest that radio amateurs, posting in an amateur
radio newsgroup should be spending their time on the ham bands. Let me
explain it to you Sparkie:

newsgroup amateur radio stake in
access access amateur radio

Leonard Anderson x

Radio Amateurs x x x



Have a nice day.

Dave K8MN