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Old December 3rd 04, 05:59 PM
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In January. Anybody know the facility?
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In January. Anybody know the facility?


Probably 1150 AM when Clear moves the sports to 570.


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Old December 4th 04, 04:03 AM
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"David" wrote

In January. Anybody know the facility?


Probably a low power fm-station in the state correctional facility.


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"David" wrote

In January. Anybody know the facility?


Probably a low power fm-station in the state correctional facility.


Actually, it is 50 kw. KXTA-1150.


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Old December 4th 04, 06:36 AM
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 04:36:21 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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"Jack Painter" wrote in message
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"David" wrote

In January. Anybody know the facility?


Probably a low power fm-station in the state correctional facility.


Actually, it is 50 kw. KXTA-1150.


The long-rumored swap amongst the Clear Channel AM facilities in Los
Angeles seems like it's gonna happen next month, if you believe the
usual industry rumor mill.

Here's how it's all supposed to pan out:

* KLAC/570 - Now standards, with sort of a "lounge"'/"hip" take on
them as "Fabulous 570". Will become sports ("XTRA Sports 570"?).
Keeps the Los Angeles Lakers, which become a centerpiece for the
format moving from 1150.

* XETRA/690 Baja California - Now the San Diego-market half of the
L.A. based "XTRA Sports" simulcast, having abandoned a local focus in
the merge with 1150...well, unless you count veteran 690 afternoon
drive host Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton, who moved to the simulcast in his
traditional slot. (Ask Lee if the phone lines are color-coded. Long
story.)

There are rumors out of San Diego that Clear Channel is set to spin
off most or all of its Mexican-based signals (Mexican-owned, CC has
the U.S.-based marketing and programming rights), perhaps for
legal/regulatory reasons. If that happens, 690 could go oldies or
standards, under another operator. There's also a chance the current
operator of San Diego market sports station XEPRS/1090 ("The Mighty
1090") could take over his old station...John Lynch's company was the
U.S. operator of 690 some time ago. That could move the San
Diego-based sports format now on 1090 back to 690.

* KXTA/1150 - Now the L.A. half of the "XTRA Sports" simulcast. With
that format moving to 570, it's expected to pick up Air America, Jones
Radio's Ed Schultz and other "progressive talk" programming.

Mike


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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 04:36:21 GMT, "David Eduardo"

Actually, it is 50 kw. KXTA-1150.


The long-rumored swap amongst the Clear Channel AM facilities in Los
Angeles seems like it's gonna happen next month, if you believe the
usual industry rumor mill.

Here's how it's all supposed to pan out:

* KLAC/570 - Now standards, with sort of a "lounge"'/"hip" take on
them as "Fabulous 570". Will become sports ("XTRA Sports 570"?).
Keeps the Los Angeles Lakers, which become a centerpiece for the
format moving from 1150.


And the source of 75% of KLAC's billings historically.

* XETRA/690 Baja California - Now the San Diego-market half of the
L.A. based "XTRA Sports" simulcast, having abandoned a local focus in
the merge with 1150...well, unless you count veteran 690 afternoon
drive host Lee "Hacksaw" Hamilton, who moved to the simulcast in his
traditional slot. (Ask Lee if the phone lines are color-coded. Long
story.)


XETRA's US rights (similar to an LMA) are being sold by Clear Channel... as
you speculate below. This is absolute and confirmed.

There are rumors out of San Diego that Clear Channel is set to spin
off most or all of its Mexican-based signals (Mexican-owned, CC has
the U.S.-based marketing and programming rights), perhaps for
legal/regulatory reasons. If that happens, 690 could go oldies or
standards, under another operator. There's also a chance the current
operator of San Diego market sports station XEPRS/1090 ("The Mighty
1090") could take over his old station...John Lynch's company was the
U.S. operator of 690 some time ago. That could move the San
Diego-based sports format now on 1090 back to 690.


While CCU will transfer the US rights to the X stations, they will keep the
intellectual property of the programming. So Z-90 or any of the other
formats might replace the existing format on one o fthe US licensed Clear
Channel SD stations. It is unlikely that John Lynch will get 690.

* KXTA/1150 - Now the L.A. half of the "XTRA Sports" simulcast. With
that format moving to 570, it's expected to pick up Air America, Jones
Radio's Ed Schultz and other "progressive talk" programming.


Exactly.


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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 05:50:08 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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XETRA's US rights (similar to an LMA) are being sold by Clear Channel... as
you speculate below. This is absolute and confirmed.


I'm curious...I've heard this is actually being forced for regulatory
reasons...the reason being that the Mexican signals give CC *way* over
the number of allowed signals in the San Diego market, and that
someone's "finally" realizing that as far as the feds are concerned.
(DOJ, perhaps?) Is this true?

I know that to be able to program the signals, a U.S. operator has to
file papers somewhere with the FCC. And I know the major U.S.
operators with signals they program across the border generally treat
the operations as if they were FCC licensed U.S. signals.

(And one other silly question - are the Mexican signals still required
to air "The Mexican National Hour" on Sunday nights? I thought I
heard this went away recently, perhaps coinciding with the new
presidential administration south of the border.)

While CCU will transfer the US rights to the X stations, they will keep the
intellectual property of the programming. So Z-90 or any of the other
formats might replace the existing format on one o fthe US licensed Clear
Channel SD stations. It is unlikely that John Lynch will get 690.


He keeps making noises about it, but it sounds like he isn't going to
get it.

And though CC is not replicating "XTRA Sports" on an existing San
Diego based frequency, instead consolidating it on 570/L.A., they
COULD...if they wanted to.

Mike
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"Mike" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 05:50:08 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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XETRA's US rights (similar to an LMA) are being sold by Clear Channel...
as
you speculate below. This is absolute and confirmed.


I'm curious...I've heard this is actually being forced for regulatory
reasons...the reason being that the Mexican signals give CC *way* over
the number of allowed signals in the San Diego market, and that
someone's "finally" realizing that as far as the feds are concerned.
(DOJ, perhaps?) Is this true?


The simple version is, "yes." The new FCC rules (on appeal) would
definitely prohibit, and there are additional issues involved. So, Clear
channel is simply divesting its interests (which are not ownership, just
rights).

I know that to be able to program the signals, a U.S. operator has to
file papers somewhere with the FCC. And I know the major U.S.
operators with signals they program across the border generally treat
the operations as if they were FCC licensed U.S. signals.


No, there is no FCC approval needed to operate a station in Mexico. There is
a requirement to get a permit to oriiginate programming in the US that will
be rebroadcast back to the US on a foreign transmitter. It is a mere
formality. Mexicans stations are treated as what they are, Mexican stations
that music comply with Mexican boradcast law and all other aspects of the
Mexican legal system.

(And one other silly question - are the Mexican signals still required
to air "The Mexican National Hour" on Sunday nights? I thought I
heard this went away recently, perhaps coinciding with the new
presidential administration south of the border.)


Yes. They are. And up to 4 minutes per hour of government PSAs, too.

While CCU will transfer the US rights to the X stations, they will keep
the
intellectual property of the programming. So Z-90 or any of the other
formats might replace the existing format on one o fthe US licensed Clear
Channel SD stations. It is unlikely that John Lynch will get 690.


He keeps making noises about it, but it sounds like he isn't going to
get it.


I doubt it. anyting possible.

And though CC is not replicating "XTRA Sports" on an existing San
Diego based frequency, instead consolidating it on 570/L.A., they
COULD...if they wanted to.


I think they believe that a battle against 50 kw XEPRS is not a good idea.


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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 04:14:21 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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No, there is no FCC approval needed to operate a station in Mexico. There is
a requirement to get a permit to oriiginate programming in the US that will
be rebroadcast back to the US on a foreign transmitter. It is a mere
formality. Mexicans stations are treated as what they are, Mexican stations
that music comply with Mexican boradcast law and all other aspects of the
Mexican legal system.


That's what I was talking about...the need to get that permit to
originate U.S.-based programming on a foreign signal, from the
viewpoint of the U.S. programming operator. And of course, the U.S.
operators of the station now known as Fox 6 in the San Diego market
had to go through some hassle back in the days when it was an ABC
affiliate.

I imagine the process of filing whatever permit it is, is much easier
and much more trivial today.

(And one other silly question - are the Mexican signals still required
to air "The Mexican National Hour" on Sunday nights? I thought I
heard this went away recently, perhaps coinciding with the new
presidential administration south of the border.)


Yes. They are. And up to 4 minutes per hour of government PSAs, too.


Last time I heard a Mexican-originated U.S. programmed signal, I do
believe it was 690...and I believe those PSAs take the form of tourism
promotions for the Mexican government, in English, of course.

The Mexican National Hour, such as it is, is in Spanish, of course,
meaning a one-hour language change for stations that normally do
English 24/7 from across the border. (Give or take the
Spanish-language legal IDs.

Mike
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"Jack Painter" wrote in news:4O9sd.3807$Ro.2650
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"David" wrote

In January. Anybody know the facility?


Probably a low power fm-station in the state correctional facility.



Why all the sarcasm about a liberal alternative to conservative
hate radio. It's like 1% of the right wing monopoly of AM talk, yet
they don't even want that to be heard. It's a very upsetting attitude,
like they want one-party politics as long as it's Republican, and no
balancing viewpoint ANYWHERE. This isn't a dictatorship.
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