N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


N2EY wrote:

snippage

Depends how you define "binary".


Which you haven't done yet.


more snippage
and a quick rearrangement

The difference is this: You've been ambiguous with definitions, particularly
the definition of "binary".

partial post from webopedia

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/B/binary.html

Pertaining to a number system that has just two unique digits. For most
purposes, we use the decimal number system, which has ten unique digits,
0 through 9. All other numbers are then formed by combining these ten
digits. Computers are based on the binary numbering system, which
consists of just two unique numbers, 0 and 1. All operations that are
possible in the decimal system (addition, subtraction, multiplication,
division) are equally possible in the binary system.

The FreeDictionary has 4 different parts to the definition
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/binary

1. Characterized by or consisting of two parts or components; twofold.
2. Of or relating to a system of numeration having 2 as its base.
3. Chemistry Consisting of or containing only molecules consisting of
two kinds of atoms.
4. Of or employing two comparatively nontoxic chemicals that combine to
produce a deadly poison: binary weapons; a binary nerve gas.
5. Music Having two sections or subjects.

The Sharpened glossary defines binary as:
http://www.sharpened.net/glossary/definition.php?binary

Binary is a two-digit (Base-2) numerical system, which computers use to
store data and compute functions. The reason computers use the binary
system is because digital switches inside the computer can only be set
to either on or off, which are represented by a 1 or 0. Though the
binary system consists of only ones and zeros, the two digits can be
used to represent any number.


So let us get to where I get my definition of binary.

What I call binary is a base 2 numerical system. Morse code is not a
base 2 numerical system.

Apparently every one else here defines binary as the "consisting of two
parts".

Okay, so let us use *that* definition.

As far as I am concerned, it is contradictory to define Morse as
"consisting of two parts, and then shift to a different definition. (base 2)

There is not any ambiguity in that if you are going to use it in a
computer, at some point it must be converted to base 2.

Do you follow me?

I don't see any point in saying it is binary because it is in two parts,
because despite it being "on" or "off", there is more then just the
carrier being on or off, isn't there?

So if everyone wants to say that Morse code is binary, using the two
state on and off definition, (despite there being much more than just
an on and off state) and *then* suddenly shift to the base 2 definition
in order to shoehorn it into a weird 2 definition-definition, well that
seems a lot more ambiguous than anything I've written so far.


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