In article . com, "K4YZ"
writes:

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you radio
rules at professional radio school?

What "professional radio school?"

That's my point, Lennie. You don't have the training.

Tsk, tsk. Such an ignorant addition to having stated that the
University of Illinois is just a "correspondence school." :-)

Well, let's see... none of the classes I took at UCLA, CSUN,
Loyola, or even L.A.Trade-Tech were called "professional radio
school." A BSEE does not stand for "professional radio school."
Practical, on-the-job training with the U.S. Army Signal Corps,
Hughes Aircraft Company, Ramo-Wooldridge Corporation, RCA
Corporation and Teledyne (Electronics Division) did not involve
"professional radio school." [just some examples, not all]

The DCAS (Defense Contract Administrative Services) listings
didn't have me with any "professional radio school." Neither did
the FBI, CIA, DIA, FCC, FAA, IRS or Franchise Tax Board of
California...all of whom were informed of my schooling and
professional job experience. [I'm not sure if the DoE did any
investigating directly for my clearances there (Atomics
International) since they had enough to go on from other
agencies' information]

Nope, never filled out one of those "school" applications as given
on back pages of Popular Mechanics or the Police Gazette.
That means I must be some kind of "wash out" in schooling? :-)

Ah, yes, I have "no experience in radio!" Poor Stebie, going into
a fit of rage because I didn't spend 8 hours per for years doing
ham radio activity like he did in the murine copse or in the hospital.
[the ONLY radio is amateur radio? :-) ]

Maybe I'll write MIT or Harvard and see if I can sign up for one of
their "correspondence courses" in "professional radio school?"
On completion they will award me a pretty certificate suitable for
framing?

There ya go! :-)



"People who live in glass houses should make love in the
basement." - Terry Moran

Len Anderson wrote:
In article . com,
"K4YZ"
writes:

What's with you, Your Scumminess? Didn't they teach you
radio
rules at professional radio school?

What "professional radio school?"

That's my point, Lennie. You don't have the training.

Tsk, tsk. Such an ignorant addition to having stated that the
University of Illinois is just a "correspondence school."

Oh Lennie! I NEVER stated that U of I is "just a correspondence
school".

Yet ANOTHER lie from one who finds it sooooooooooooooo easy to
lie!

Maybe I'll write MIT or Harvard and see if I can sign up for one
of
their "correspondence courses" in "professional radio school?"
On completion they will award me a pretty certificate suitable for
framing?

If they have correspondence courses, I am sure they will if you
flash the right amount of green or acceptable plastic.

And then you too will have a pretty certificate suitable for
framing.

Just like the rest of us.

Until then, you're still a liar. You're stil a cheat. You're
still deciteful. You're still not licensed nor experienced in the
Amateur Radio Service.

There ya go!

Yep. There ya go!

"People who live in glass houses should make love in the
basement." - Terry Moran

"People who make up stories about thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers shouldn't give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed involvement
in seven hostile actions.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers shouldn't give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I sent mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and disucssed it in
open forum dispite having been told the material was sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and disucssed it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In other words, no hostile actions.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and disucssed it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...

It's up to you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I
sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...

It's up to you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"

We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep things
gentlemanly.....

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you the
nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN officers
who were in charge at the time.

After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your claim
of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are just
the RADIO related issues.

And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were just
now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson

Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.

Different circumstances.

I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I
sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.

Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.

73

Steve, K4YZ

In other words, no hostile actions.

In other words, you're wrong.

Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...

It's up to you.

73

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"

We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....

Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you the
nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not. We
tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't in
the UN either.

After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your claim
of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.

Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are just
the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing some
kind of violence?

So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were just
now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt whooping."
Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

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K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson


Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.


Different circumstances.


I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that I

sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.


Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.


73


Steve, K4YZ


In other words, no hostile actions.


In other words, you're wrong.


Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...


It's up to you.


73


Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"


We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....



Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you the

nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not. We

tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't in

the UN either.

Stebe has ultimate authority in ham radio. Everywhere.

If He says you be illegal, you are illegal. In his tunnel vision,
that is.


After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Stebe hasn't done much "emergency comms" stuff, obviously.

But His imagination has! :-)


Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your claim

of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.


Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are just

the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

Doesn't matter whether or not anyone provides bona fide references
for Stebe. If'n he say you be wrong, you be wrong! :-)




And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing some

kind of violence?

Stebe is Conan the Barbarian in here, master of wanting to do
violence.



So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were just

now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt whooping."

Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Ackshully, Stebe said "whupped." Das a TN word which I think
means Stebe's imagination filled out his dream desire for gory
glory and the Prince of Barbarians, conquering all who stand in
his way!

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

I think those were "hostile actions." Stebe will say those are all
"classified" or somesuch since he can't talk about them in
public. :-)

It's the same way with his NOT talking about all those military
radios he supposedly used while in the military. He's not
mentioned but one and that is really an old commercial rig
(which he probably saw briefly at some base MARS station).
Stebe said (a long time ago) that all that radio information was
"secret" or words to that effect, therefore he "couldn't talk about
them in public." :-)

Never mind that nearly ALL of those military radios have been
public knowledge for years, information available from many,
many public sources. Geez, even before Stebe mumbled his
"secret radio" thing, I'd given the link to Army Field Manual
FM 24-24 that's been in public dissemination status since 1994.
[24-24 is a directory of Signal Devices and similar links are
available on various ham radio Internet sites.

Wait a minute. Maybe Soldier of Fortune magazine is going to
publish this great war hero's story? In that case, there's prolly
a Non-Disclosure Agreement mandating he can't talk about it!

Yeah, that's it. Stebe can't talk about it because of the NDA!

Wow. Funny Fiction time again! :-)

Lennie the liar wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

"People who make up stories about thier careers
shouldn't
give
the
names of places and dates when those bits of
information
can
be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson


Steve, that reminds me of a guy who slipped up and
claimed
involvement
in seven hostile actions.


Different circumstances.


I once slipped up and thought I could trust a guy that
I

sent
mail
to in confidence, however he took stuff I sent him and
disucssed
it
in
open forum dispite having been told the material was
sensitive.


Some trust, eh? Can't even trust a fellow Vet any
more...That's
sad.


73


Steve, K4YZ


In other words, no hostile actions.


In other words, you're wrong.


Brian, we've gotten along very well, lately...even shared
some
mutually complimentary words. But if you want to reopen the
flood
gate, hey, I've got my snorkle and fins right here...


It's up to you.


73


Steve, K4YZ


Steve, you're right as always. ""People who make up stories
about
thier careers shouldn't give the
names of places and dates when those bits of information can be
corroborated." - Steve Robeson"


We're back to it Brian...last chance to suck it up and keep
things
gentlemanly.....



Things are gentlemanly. If you wish to change the situation, it's on
you.

Best of Luck.

Poor Stebe. He fantasizes his opponents as all being wrong,
all lying, all unlawful.

Not all, Lennie.

Just those that have PROVEN that they are not being truthful.
Like you and your sidkekick.

Otherwise tell us about your undocumented, illegal operation
from
Somalia. It was OK, supposedly, becasue some butter bar gave you
the

nod, but your butter bar was not a representitive of the UN
officers
who were in charge at the time.

Obviously you weren't there, or you'd be able to make reference to 8
hostile actions. And I don't reall a single LT, butter bar or not.
We

tend to deploy with our experienced people. I did see one reserve
Staff Sargeant, but that was about the lowest rank I saw. He wasn't
in

the UN either.

Stebe has ultimate authority in ham radio. Everywhere.

If He says you be illegal, you are illegal. In his tunnel vision,
that is.

Nope. In facts.

Brian had no lawful permission to operate from Somalia. Period.

After that you can get around to providing us the links that
corroborate your "Unlicensed devices play a major role in emergency
comms" assertion.

Go get a better quote.

Stebe hasn't done much "emergency comms" stuff, obviously.

Far, far more than you or Brian, Lennie.

Enought to know that he's not right and you're inexperienced.

But His imagination has!

I think this meant something, but what?

Then you can provided us some sort of verification of your
claim

of having worked the equivilent of DXCC a couple times over.

Go get a quote for that one, too.


Those are radio-related issues that you claim expertise,
experience or otherwise are knowledgeable of.

So far you've provided us absolutely nothing, and those are
just

the RADIO related issues.

My statements can stand on their own.

Doesn't matter whether or not anyone provides bona fide references
for Stebe. If'n he say you be wrong, you be wrong!

So far, there's been NO references.

From you OR him. The TRUTH is that unlicensed radio systems do
NOT play a "major role" in emergency communications.

And if your nose isn't bruised and bloodied enough after that,
there are some other issues I will be glad to regurgitate for NG
consumption, but we'll wait and see if you decide to exercise some

"Bruised and bloody." Interesting choice of words. Are you doing
some

kind of violence?

Stebe is Conan the Barbarian in here, master of wanting to do
violence.

If I truly wanted to do violence, Lennie, you'd be doing your
postings with a push stick in your teeth.

So...You up to getting your NG butt whupped again, or do you
just
want to forget that you re-opened a can of worms that folks were
just

now starting to forget?

Steve, K4YZ

Steve, I don't believe you've ever given anyone else a "butt
whooping."

Perhaps in some fantasy kind of way.

Ackshully, Stebe said "whupped." Das a TN word which I think
means Stebe's imagination filled out his dream desire for gory
glory and the Prince of Barbarians, conquering all who stand in
his way!

Nope.

Just a good old fashioned thrashing. The kind that pathological
liars and cheaters need from time to time. Too bad the law doesn't
allow it, but then again, you'd be doing your postings with a push
stick in your teeth, Lennie.

Anyway, when are you going to tell us your 7 war stories?

I think those were "hostile actions." Stebe will say those are
all
"classified" or somesuch since he can't talk about them in
public.

It's the same way with his NOT talking about all those military
radios he supposedly used while in the military. He's not
mentioned but one and that is really an old commercial rig
(which he probably saw briefly at some base MARS station).
Stebe said (a long time ago) that all that radio information was
"secret" or words to that effect, therefore he "couldn't talk
about
them in public."

No, Lennie...The "I can't talk about it bbecasue it's an on-going
project" tht YOU cited due to your "working part time but retired from
regular hours" routine.

I never said anything about any systems I worked on being
classified or secret.

You're welcome to TRY and find the post wherein you think I did...

Never mind that nearly ALL of those military radios have been
public knowledge for years, information available from many,
many public sources. Geez, even before Stebe mumbled his
"secret radio" thing, I'd given the link to Army Field Manual
FM 24-24 that's been in public dissemination status since 1994.
[24-24 is a directory of Signal Devices and similar links are
available on various ham radio Internet sites.

Wait a minute. Maybe Soldier of Fortune magazine is going to
publish this great war hero's story? In that case, there's prolly
a Non-Disclosure Agreement mandating he can't talk about it!

Yeah, that's it. Stebe can't talk about it because of the NDA!

No, Lennie...The "I can't talk about it bbecasue it's an on-going
project" tht YOU cited due to your "working part time but retired from
regular hours" routine.

I never said anything about any systems I worked on being
classified or secret.

Wow. Funny Fiction time again!

Oh...you are working up yet another "in comming artillery" story?
Or is this one going to be another Soviet aircraft being danger close?

Yes, Lennie...Someone in here likes to write fiction, but it isn't
me.



Lying Putz @ aol.com

Steve, K4YZ