Just was starting to get interested in QRP. Been making many contacts
with 1/2 watt on 7040 KHz. But lately it has been worthless due to all
the QRM from RTTY stations operating very close to 7040. Why? Why are
all the RTTY people meeting so close to 7040 when there is so much free
space in around 7090 area?

George - KI4FIA
http://www.MilAirComms.com

Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL band
plan.

Have heard suggestions to move the QRP Calling frequency to 7030 kHz -- but
that probably has a lot of data stuff too
But suspect the QRP Amateur Radio Club International should do that URL:
http://www.qrparci.org/



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"GeorgeF" wrote in message
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Just was starting to get interested in QRP. Been making many contacts
with 1/2 watt on 7040 KHz. But lately it has been worthless due to all
the QRM from RTTY stations operating very close to 7040. Why? Why are
all the RTTY people meeting so close to 7040 when there is so much free
space in around 7090 area?

George - KI4FIA
http://www.MilAirComms.com

Caveat Lector wrote:

Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL band
plan.


Actually I thought 7040 was a QRP freq before RTTY ever came
around....could be wrong but thought 7040 was QRP for a LOOONG time...
George

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out

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"GeorgeF" wrote in message
nk.net...
Caveat Lector wrote:

Because 7040 kHz is the "RTTY DX" frequency in the ARRL bandplan.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...dplan.html#40m

Whoever designated 7040 kHz as a QRP frequency didn't look at the ARRL
band plan.


Actually I thought 7040 was a QRP freq before RTTY ever came
around....could be wrong but thought 7040 was QRP for a LOOONG time...
George

Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had
RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq
was already in use (ya right!)

George

GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had

RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq

was already in use (ya right!)

In the "Olde Days" a person operating ANY Amateur mode on that
frequeny would have been proficient in Morse Code to at least 13WPM,
the speed at which one reaches true "literacy" in Morse. (Able to
understand what was being sent without having to write down everything
to get it)

Incursions like this will continue, expecially with the spectre of
a true no code Amateur license looming close.

73 and didididadidah

Steve, K4YZ

GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out


Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had

RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq

was already in use (ya right!)

George

They don't call it QRP for nothing.

Did it occur to you that you and the other QRP ops might be in the
noise?

Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had
RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq
was already in use (ya right!)


The RTTY people may not have the receiver audio playing in the
shack, but just looking at the computer monitor for decoded RTTY
messages. SO they may not realize that there's some code coming
in on freq. Changing band conditions and such.

GeorgeF wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:

RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out

Its to the point where the last few days even operating CW on 40 has
been a waste. Twice tonight 20+ minutes into two different QSO's had

RTTY coming right on top..... Guess they couldn't hear that the freq

was already in use (ya right!)

Some kind of RTTY contest going on.

Remember too that 40 meters is only 7000-7100 outside of IARU Region 2.

That will change in the next few years but right now a lot of DX is
allowed above 7100. And as we head towards sunspot minimum, folks who
were spread all over the bands above 10 MHz are being pushed lower in
frequency due to lack of propagation. Happens every cycle.

The best solution would be for the bottom 50-75 kc\Hz of each band to
be
made CW-only - by law.

73 de Jim, N2EY

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
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RTTY ers don't usually read the QRP pages for frequency useage
They probably read the ARRL pages for this

It is a conflict and the two entities ought to straighten it out

Good grief! I got the Extra before incentive licensing created sub-bands,
just so I didn't have to keep track of anything more than CW and phone
bands. Now we have to worry about every bandplan mode allocation? Either the
frequency is in use or not in use. (That's for everyone, except K1MAN of
course.) If it's not in use, it's free game. For those who don't believe in
first-come, first-serve - I have a big amplifier I can turn on as the
minimal power needed to complete the contact. ak

p.s. OK - I do try to stay away from the low power PSK frequencies, if I'm
not running PSK, and keep my power to under 200 watts in Novice sections and
on 30 meters.