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Old March 5th 05, 07:24 PM
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
woke up from a long winter's nap and wrote:

On Thurs, Mar 3 2005 11:04 pm, "Dee Flint" (calmed down from a previous
hissy fit) jumped into a so-called conversation and shouted out:

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in
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[snip]


Are there
thousands of hams that could pass the General or Extra theory

trapped
above 30 MHz? Yes.

There are no hams "trapped above 30Mhz.


Riiiiight, Mama Dee. Nobody is trapped. No-coders are NOBODIES.
:-)


Incorrect, grizzled ancient one. No coders have the same opportunity to
pass the piddling, easy 5 wpm code test as anyone else. :-) :-)


Riiiight, Dee, the "only" purpose of HF is "to work DX with CW."
:-)


Nobody is peddling that claim except for you and you aren't involved
with DX or CW.


Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies to them.
Notice how he has inserted material that wasn't even there. I've worked
plenty of non-DX stations on HF. He ignores the fact that the same
propagation principles apply to domestic and international communications.


I am also amazed at how he keeps flattering me by using the term "Mama Dee",
since this is the most important job in the world for any woman with
children. He probably intends for it to be derogatory but has failed
miserably in that regard.

They may not stick with it until conditions improve since they won't

have
the skills to participate in the second most used mode of shortwave
communications.


Wow, all that struggle just to be "second best!" Such "incentive!"

Gots to "work DX on HF with CW." On "shortwave!"


Those of us who care to will. How are you involved?


Notice how he cannot distiguish between 2nd best and 2nd most used. These
two phrases have entirely different meanings.

BTW, the rest of the radio world uses the term "shortwave" to refer
to small wavelengths measured in centimeters.


That's simply incorrect. The term has been defined and understood for
many, many decades. If some Johnny-come-lately wants to act as if he
has just invented the terms "shortwave" or "wireless" let him join you
in looking like a complete boob.

It's in all the trade
magazines. Oops, I forgot. Real hams don't read industry trades.
The only approved publications about radio come from the ARRL.


Real hams may read anything they choose and even a non-ham like yourself
may look at QST.

Work, struggle with all one's might to become "second best." :-)
Mediocre is the word.


You whine and whine over a measly five wpm morse code test and you dare
write of mediocrity? :-) :-)


Again he is totally fuzzy on the difference between 2nd best and 2nd most
used.

Or, to keep the "CW" bandplan open as an
olde-tymer's playground/sandbox to keep their righteousnesses
happy. "Real" radio operators do "CW." All important, vital,
necessities, righteous. Get and keep federal LAW to TEST all
hobbyists operating below 30 MHz or the sky will fall!


Seems as if you're really swinging from the chandelier today, Leonard.

Dave K8MN



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old March 6th 05, 04:23 AM
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Dee Flint wrote:

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
woke up from a long winter's nap and wrote:

On Thurs, Mar 3 2005 11:04 pm, "Dee Flint" (calmed down from a previous
hissy fit) jumped into a so-called conversation and shouted out:

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in
oups.com:

[snip]


Are there
thousands of hams that could pass the General or Extra theory
trapped
above 30 MHz? Yes.

There are no hams "trapped above 30Mhz.

Riiiiight, Mama Dee. Nobody is trapped. No-coders are NOBODIES.
:-)


Incorrect, grizzled ancient one. No coders have the same opportunity to
pass the piddling, easy 5 wpm code test as anyone else. :-) :-)


Riiiight, Dee, the "only" purpose of HF is "to work DX with CW."
:-)


Nobody is peddling that claim except for you and you aren't involved
with DX or CW.


Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies to them.


That's likely a good thing.

Notice how he has inserted material that wasn't even there.


That happens frequently. He often goes off on a diversionary rant.

I've worked
plenty of non-DX stations on HF.


Same here--domestic rag chews, section nets, contests. Plenty of them
were done using modes other than CW too.

He ignores the fact that the same
propagation principles apply to domestic and international communications.


It doesn't suit his agenda.

I am also amazed at how he keeps flattering me by using the term "Mama Dee",
since this is the most important job in the world for any woman with
children. He probably intends for it to be derogatory but has failed
miserably in that regard.


Len finds it quite difficult to use someone's given name.

They may not stick with it until conditions improve since they won't
have
the skills to participate in the second most used mode of shortwave
communications.

Wow, all that struggle just to be "second best!" Such "incentive!"

Gots to "work DX on HF with CW." On "shortwave!"


Those of us who care to will. How are you involved?


Notice how he cannot distiguish between 2nd best and 2nd most used. These
two phrases have entirely different meanings.


Again, it doesn't suit his agenda.

BTW, the rest of the radio world uses the term "shortwave" to refer
to small wavelengths measured in centimeters.


That's simply incorrect. The term has been defined and understood for
many, many decades. If some Johnny-come-lately wants to act as if he
has just invented the terms "shortwave" or "wireless" let him join you
in looking like a complete boob.

It's in all the trade
magazines. Oops, I forgot. Real hams don't read industry trades.
The only approved publications about radio come from the ARRL.


Real hams may read anything they choose and even a non-ham like yourself
may look at QST.

Work, struggle with all one's might to become "second best." :-)
Mediocre is the word.


You whine and whine over a measly five wpm morse code test and you dare
write of mediocrity? :-) :-)


Again he is totally fuzzy on the difference between 2nd best and 2nd most
used.


Len really doesn't believe that morse code comes in second in either
category. It wouldn't appear that whatever he believes has effected
radio amateurs at all. He isn't involved.

Dave K8MN
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Old March 6th 05, 02:49 PM
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Dee Flint wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message
...
woke up from a long winter's nap and wrote:

On Thurs, Mar 3 2005 11:04 pm, "Dee Flint" (calmed down from a

previous
hissy fit) jumped into a so-called conversation and shouted out:

"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in
oups.com:

[snip]


Are there
thousands of hams that could pass the General or Extra theory
trapped
above 30 MHz? Yes.

There are no hams "trapped above 30Mhz.

Riiiiight, Mama Dee. Nobody is trapped. No-coders are

NOBODIES.

Incorrect, grizzled ancient one. No coders have the same

opportunity to
pass the piddling, easy 5 wpm code test as anyone else.


Even the unlicensed have the same oppotunities...It's just that
SOME of them don't ahve the cajones to take the test...Mostly becasue
it's illegal to take the test open-book.

Lennie couldn't do it otherwise. He keeps making significant
error-of-fact even when he has plenty of opportunity to "get it right"
before he posts in here...pity that!

Riiiight, Dee, the "only" purpose of HF is "to work DX with

CW."

Nobody is peddling that claim except for you and you aren't

involved
with DX or CW.


Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies to

them.
Notice how he has inserted material that wasn't even there. I've

worked
plenty of non-DX stations on HF. He ignores the fact that the same
propagation principles apply to domestic and international

communications.

Ironic that Lennie claims that he's such a brilliant engineer.

Lot's of NON engineer types have some very enviable "DX" records
never operating below 144MHz, let alone on 50MHz. Quite a few DXCC's
awarded for VHF operations.

THAT takes skill...perseverence...knowledge...determination.

In other words...characteristics Lennie lacks.

I am also amazed at how he keeps flattering me by using the term

"Mama Dee",
since this is the most important job in the world for any woman with
children. He probably intends for it to be derogatory but has failed


miserably in that regard.


You'll fogive Lennie's mock-derogatory attack on your gender, Dee.
Lennie's own female significant other wouldn't favor him with
offspring, hence most of his angst vis-a-vis women, and I assume his
misdirected attack on pre-teen licensure in Amateur Radio (no practical
experience in child development).

He even digs in pretty deep on Kim who's own position on many
issues actually parallels his own. Ya gots ta wonder why he would
publically slap around a potential ally.

They may not stick with it until conditions improve since they

won't
have
the skills to participate in the second most used mode of

shortwave
communications.

Wow, all that struggle just to be "second best!" Such

"incentive!"

Gots to "work DX on HF with CW." On "shortwave!"


Those of us who care to will. How are you involved?

Notice how he cannot distiguish between 2nd best and 2nd most used.

These
two phrases have entirely different meanings.


Lennie has a LOT of trouble distinguishing between a LOT of
things, Dee...

Like "truth" and "mistruth". They are interchangeable in Lennie's
world.

And if he were a licensed Amateur, Lennie would know how much
significantly more challenging it is to obtain a DXCC above 50MHz than
below it.

Makes those who do it a lot more remarkable in my book...

BTW, the rest of the radio world uses the term "shortwave" to

refer
to small wavelengths measured in centimeters.


That's simply incorrect. The term has been defined and understood

for
many, many decades. If some Johnny-come-lately wants to act as if

he
has just invented the terms "shortwave" or "wireless" let him join

you
in looking like a complete boob.

It's in all the trade
magazines. Oops, I forgot. Real hams don't read industry

trades.
The only approved publications about radio come from the ARRL.


Real hams may read anything they choose and even a non-ham like

yourself
may look at QST.

Work, struggle with all one's might to become "second best."
Mediocre is the word.


You whine and whine over a measly five wpm morse code test and you

dare
write of mediocrity?


Again he is totally fuzzy on the difference between 2nd best and 2nd

most
used.


Mediocrity kept Lennie away from at least one "aerospace" job I
know of.

No doubt it kept him from others too.

But he DID "have his hands in" several "aerospace" jobs...No doubt
some of the early Vanguard missions and at least one Space Shuttle
mission.

Or, to keep the "CW" bandplan open as an
olde-tymer's playground/sandbox to keep their righteousnesses
happy. "Real" radio operators do "CW." All important, vital,
necessities, righteous. Get and keep federal LAW to TEST all
hobbyists operating below 30 MHz or the sky will fall!


Seems as if you're really swinging from the chandelier today,

Leonard.

Ironic then that the ONLY "CW bandplan" is in V/UHF spectrum,
huh...?!?!

(Lennie and Brain call me "nuts", but then they keep making
assinine assertions in the face of well known, publically accepted
standards to the contrary of thier "understanding" of
things...Sheeeeesh...)

73

Steve, K4YZ

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"K4YZ" frothing-at-the-mouth Avenging Angle, still mad as hell
and unable to take it anymore posted this on Sun, Mar 6 2005 5:49
am:

Dee Flint wrote:
"Dave Heil" wrote in message

...
woke up from a long winter's nap and wrote:
On Thurs, Mar 3 2005 11:04 pm, "Dee Flint" (calmed down from a

previous
hissy fit) jumped into a so-called conversation and shouted out:
"Alun L. Palmer" wrote in message
. ..
wrote in
oups.com:


[snip]


Are there
thousands of hams that could pass the General or Extra theory

trapped
above 30 MHz? Yes.


There are no hams "trapped above 30Mhz.


Riiiiight, Mama Dee. Nobody is trapped. No-coders are

NOBODIES.

Incorrect, grizzled ancient one. No coders have the same

opportunity to
pass the piddling, easy 5 wpm code test as anyone else.


Even the unlicensed have the same oppotunities...It's just that
SOME of them don't ahve the cajones to take the test...Mostly becasue
it's illegal to take the test open-book.


Tsk. Stevie done took a bath in Lie Soap again. :-)

Lennie couldn't do it otherwise. He keeps making significant
error-of-fact even when he has plenty of opportunity to "get it right"


before he posts in here...pity that!


Of course, "pity" that so few want to inhabit a world of
fantasy conjured up by the PCTA extras where Morse
Is King! :-)


Ironic that Lennie claims that he's such a brilliant engineer.


Tsk, tsk. Stevie done IMAGINED something again. Bad,
Stevie, Bad!

I am an electronics design engineer by training and
experience, accepting money for such work. Did that
for years and years. I've not claimed otherwise. :-)

"Brilliant?!?" Only when I turn on the Xenon spotlight.
:-) [I don't glow in the dark yet... :-) ]

Lot's of NON engineer types have some very enviable "DX" records
never operating below 144MHz, let alone on 50MHz. Quite a few DXCC's
awarded for VHF operations.

THAT takes skill...perseverence...knowled?ge...determination.

In other words...characteristics Lennie lacks.


Tsk, tsk. How did the subject suddenly turn to VHF DX? :-)

Is big badass Stevie some kind of VHF operations DX hero?
Tell us all about your mighty (hostile?) actions at VHF and
above! I'm sure we can find at least one person in here who
has the patience to listen to such tales.

Tsk. As for "skills" and the rest, I was working with 1.8 GHz
multi-channel microwave radio terminals back in 1954, as
operations and maintenance supervisor of 9 of them in 1955.
All line-of-sight, of course, but operating 24/7 and had to.


You'll fogive Lennie's mock-derogatory attack on your gender,

Dee.
Lennie's own female significant other wouldn't favor him with
offspring, hence most of his angst vis-a-vis women, and I assume his
misdirected attack on pre-teen licensure in Amateur Radio (no

practical
experience in child development).


Tsk, tsk, tsk. My wife and I will celebrate our 6th wedding
anniversary soon. :-)

Tsk. Stevie hasn't done a good work-up on his opponents in
here. Stevie needs to go back to Psychiatry 101 and review
what he didn't get the first time around. :-)

I'm not sure what this thing about "raising children" is
about...it's an artificiality brought up by those who just
want to FIGHT about a subject.

He even digs in pretty deep on Kim who's own position on many
issues actually parallels his own. Ya gots ta wonder why he would
publically slap around a potential ally.


I "dig deep?" :-) "Slap around a potential ally?!?" :-)

Stevie must be on some kind of druggie Trip again. :-)


Lennie has a LOT of trouble distinguishing between a LOT of
things, Dee...

Like "truth" and "mistruth". They are interchangeable in

Lennie's
world.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. I live in REALITY, not in Stevie's fantasy world
where He sets the rulez and determines what is "truth" and
what is "lie." :-)

And if he were a licensed Amateur, Lennie would know how much
significantly more challenging it is to obtain a DXCC above 50MHz than


below it.


Tsk, tsk, tsk. Poor Stevie is trying to divert the subject.

I've worked above 50 MHz and I've worked below 50 MHz
since 1953 and continued to do so until 2004. Never had
to get an amateur radio license for that nor know morse
code, just used my First 'Phone first granted in 1956. :-)

Makes those who do it a lot more remarkable in my book...


Stevie needs to get TWO books. And OPEN them. :-)


Mediocrity kept Lennie away from at least one "aerospace" job I
know of.


Which one was that? :-)

Was it Hughes Aircraft Company? Ramo-Wooldridge Corporation?
Micro-Radionics division of Systron-Donner? Birtcher Instruments?
Electro-Optical Systems (a division of Xerox Corporation)? Radio
Corporation of America? Teledyne Electronics? Rocketdyne (then
a division of Rockwell International, sold to Boeing Aircraft, with
a
current, pending sale to another corporation not yet completed)?

I've posted those places of employment in here before. You
really ought to get things straight. Tsk.

No doubt it kept him from others too.


Heh heh heh...I'm suuuure you think so...except I chose my
places of employment, was NEVER fired for any reason.

But he DID "have his hands in" several "aerospace" jobs...No

doubt
some of the early Vanguard missions and at least one Space Shuttle
mission.


I did?!? Stevie went off into some wild blue yonder of his own.

Tsk. "Aerospace" means both air and space. :-)

Rocketdyne designed and built - and still builds - the Space
Shuttle Main Engine (SSME). Three on every STS vehicle.
[that's "shuttle" to civilians] Liquid hydrogent - liquid oxygen
powered, throttleable thrust, 350,000 pounds of thrust
(awesome to feel one 1200 feet away in the blockhouse
during a test run). Each SSME has its own strap-on
computer to control the throttleable engine and measure
oxygen flow indirectly.

Tsk. I've never been directly involved in a "mission" of STS
(specific flight) and certainly not on the "Vanguard" program.


(Lennie and Brain call me "nuts", but then they keep making
assinine assertions in the face of well known, publically accepted
standards to the contrary of thier "understanding" of
things...Sheeeeesh...)


Well, little Stevie is 0 for naught on this message, hasn't gotten
one thing correct yet, wandered obliquely off on some tangent
subject in a transcendental haze. Poor guy should STAY on
his meds...and seek professional medical mental therapy.

But, Stevie IS a shining example of a modern PCTA amateur
extra! [oy veh! :-) ]



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From: "Dee Flint" on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:24:14
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Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies to

them.

Tsk. PCTA Double Standard invoked. :-)

Speaking against morse code is "idiotic!" :-)

Ostrich syndrome. Hiding one's head in the sand does NOT
make them disappear. :-)

Notice how he has inserted material that wasn't even there. I've

worked
plenty of non-DX stations on HF. He ignores the fact that the same
propagation principles apply to domestic and international

communications.

"Ignore?" :-) Hardly.

The SAME laws of physics apply to ALL radio, Dee.

Electrons, fields and waves ignore human divisions of
"domestic" and "international." They also ignore the
human divisions of "ham radios" versus all other radios.

I first started doing both domestic and international
radio communications 52 years ago. Laws of physics
haven't changed in all that half century.

I am also amazed at how he keeps flattering me by using the term "Mama

Dee",
since this is the most important job in the world for any woman with
children. He probably intends for it to be derogatory but has failed
miserably in that regard.


Tsk. I suppose you want to "discipline" those who make
derogatory to you? :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Trying to treat grown-ups as if they are
children is NOT a mature behavior. :-)


Notice how he cannot distiguish between 2nd best and 2nd most used.

These
two phrases have entirely different meanings.


Depends on whether one is in REALITY or the fantasy
of the PCTA extras. :-)

The rest of the radio world thinks of morse code as a
"Once Was," and such isn't in any "2nd," nor "3rd," nor
any category. :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. ONLY in amateur radio is that old 1844
morse code considered an ultimate skill achievement
worthy of amateur radio license "qualification!" Wow!

Hello? Can anyone say "RETRO?" :-)


Again he is totally fuzzy on the difference between 2nd best and 2nd

most
used.


Tsk. I've offended Mother Ham! [isn't that awful?!?]

Well, one out of two ain't bad (I really like apple pie). :-)

[try the phrase "mom and apple pie" for those who are
connect-the-dot impaired... :-) ]

Yup...the following is a catechism of the Church of St. Hiram
following:

Or, to keep the "CW" bandplan open as an
olde-tymer's playground/sandbox to keep their righteousnesses
happy. "Real" radio operators do "CW." All important, vital,
necessities, righteous. Get and keep federal LAW to TEST all
hobbyists operating below 30 MHz or the sky will fall!


To the PCTA extras, morse code IS first! Hear ye! Hear ye!

:-)





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From: "Dee Flint" on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:24:14
am

Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies to

them.

Tsk. PCTA Double Standard invoked. :-)

Speaking against morse code is "idiotic!" :-)


Hell, she didn't write that, Len. She said your idiotic comments. :-)

Ostrich syndrome. Hiding one's head in the sand does NOT
make them disappear. :-)


It makes you disappear for her, Len. She's built a fence behind her
house so as not to have to view the unsightly landfill next door.
You're the unsightly landfill.

Notice how he has inserted material that wasn't even there. I've

worked
plenty of non-DX stations on HF. He ignores the fact that the same
propagation principles apply to domestic and international

communications.


I am also amazed at how he keeps flattering me by using the term "Mama

Dee",
since this is the most important job in the world for any woman with
children. He probably intends for it to be derogatory but has failed
miserably in that regard.


Tsk. I suppose you want to "discipline" those who make
derogatory to you? :-)


Would you like to be disciplined by Dee, Leonard? Perhaps you can get
her to don some of those invisible robes you like to write about. Maybe
you'd prefer your other favorite, the Waffen SS outfit.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Trying to treat grown-ups as if they are
children is NOT a mature behavior. :-)


It is if they insist on acting like children. :-)

Notice how he cannot distiguish between 2nd best and 2nd most used.

These
two phrases have entirely different meanings.


Depends on whether one is in REALITY or the fantasy
of the PCTA extras. :-)

The rest of the radio world thinks of morse code as a
"Once Was," and such isn't in any "2nd," nor "3rd," nor
any category. :-)


As soon as the "rest of the radio world" gets to dictate what happens in
amateur radio, I'll begin to worry.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. ONLY in amateur radio is that old 1844
morse code considered an ultimate skill achievement
worthy of amateur radio license "qualification!" Wow!


Maybe you've noticed the name of the newsgroup.

Hello? Can anyone say "RETRO?" :-)


Again he is totally fuzzy on the difference between 2nd best and 2nd

most
used.


Tsk. I've offended Mother Ham! [isn't that awful?!?]


You offend quite a number of folks, Len. Yes, it's awful.

Dave K8MN
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"Dee Flint" on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:24:14


Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone replies

to them.

Tsk. PCTA Double Standard invoked. :-)


Speaking against morse code is "idiotic!" :-)


Hell, she didn't write that, Len. She said your idiotic comments.

:-)

Ostrich syndrome. Hiding one's head in the sand does NOT
make them disappear. :-)


It makes you disappear for her, Len. She's built a fence behind her
house so as not to have to view the unsightly landfill next door.
You're the unsightly landfill.


Oh, poor babies! Truth is "ugly" and old standards are "beautiful?"

By all means, everyone that CANNOT argue all sides of an
issue do their ostrich thing! Delude yourselves! Practice
denial.


Would you like to be disciplined by Dee, Leonard?


I'm not into sado-masochism. Sounds like YOUR thing. :-)

Perhaps you can get her to don some of those invisible robes
you like to write about.


Tsk. There's an old fable called "The Emperor's New Clothes,"
all about vanity and self-righteousness, self-delusion. That's
so YOU, big badass Dave.

Dee appears to be only slightly deluded, locking out opposing
views. Those are too "uncomfortable" for brainwashed folk.

Maybe you'd prefer your other favorite, the Waffen SS outfit.


Not my bag at all. Waffen SS is SO YOU! :-)


The rest of the radio world thinks of morse code as a
"Once Was," and such isn't in any "2nd," nor "3rd," nor
any category. :-)


As soon as the "rest of the radio world" gets to dictate what happens

in
amateur radio, I'll begin to worry.


Actually, they DO sometimes dictate. Administrations do what
is called Spectrum Management based on the needs of ALL in
the electromagnetic spectrum and frequency assignments.
YOU can't get what you want, no matter if you've been in
ham radio for four decades. :-)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. ONLY in amateur radio is that old 1844
morse code considered an ultimate skill achievement
worthy of amateur radio license "qualification!" Wow!


Maybe you've noticed the name of the newsgroup.


Maybe you've noticed your head isn't on straight...


You offend quite a number of folks, Len. Yes, it's awful.


The number is at least 3. TS.

Perhaps Coslo might make it 4. Coslonaut wants so much
to be an olde-tymer he'll even refer to himself as an "extra
lite" to show his sycophantsies (e.g. synchronous fantasies).

All are NOT required to march to the same beat of the
same drummer. You want to drum the cadence but you
would be better off to beat it.



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Dave Heil babbled on Sun, Mar 6 2005 1:26

pm:


wrote:
"Dee Flint" on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 10:24:14


Fortunately I only see Len's idiotic comments when someone

replies
to them.

Tsk. PCTA Double Standard invoked. :-)


Speaking against morse code is "idiotic!" :-)


Hell, she didn't write that, Len. She said your idiotic comments.

:-)

Ostrich syndrome. Hiding one's head in the sand does NOT
make them disappear. :-)


It makes you disappear for her, Len. She's built a fence behind her
house so as not to have to view the unsightly landfill next door.
You're the unsightly landfill.


Oh, poor babies! Truth is "ugly" and old standards are

"beautiful?"

By all means, everyone that CANNOT argue all sides of an
issue do their ostrich thing! Delude yourselves! Practice
denial.


So far, Lennie, the ONLY person trying to practice "old standards"
is you...You're still that pimply faced kid at ADA in 1953, and nothing
else is "real" radio.

Would you like to be disciplined by Dee, Leonard?


I'm not into sado-masochism. Sounds like YOUR thing.


Ahhhhh...but you ARE into SM, Lennie!

You keep posting stuff that's going to get you embarrassed or made
a fool of, do anyway, then go back for more time after time.

Perhaps you can get her to don some of those invisible robes
you like to write about.


Tsk. There's an old fable called "The Emperor's New Clothes,"
all about vanity and self-righteousness, self-delusion. That's
so YOU, big badass Dave.

Dee appears to be only slightly deluded, locking out opposing
views. Those are too "uncomfortable" for brainwashed folk.

Maybe you'd prefer your other favorite, the Waffen SS outfit.


Not my bag at all. Waffen SS is SO YOU!


More Godwin. Lennie DOES love his Nazi analogies!

The rest of the radio world thinks of morse code as a
"Once Was," and such isn't in any "2nd," nor "3rd," nor
any category. :-)


As soon as the "rest of the radio world" gets to dictate what

happens
in
amateur radio, I'll begin to worry.


Actually, they DO sometimes dictate. Administrations do what
is called Spectrum Management based on the needs of ALL in
the electromagnetic spectrum and frequency assignments.
YOU can't get what you want, no matter if you've been in
ham radio for four decades.


And YOU can't get what YOU want, even after four decades of whining
about it.

Ya still got to take the test, written or otherwise, to get an
Amateur Radio license.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. ONLY in amateur radio is that old 1844
morse code considered an ultimate skill achievement
worthy of amateur radio license "qualification!" Wow!


Maybe you've noticed the name of the newsgroup.


Maybe you've noticed your head isn't on straight...


BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! !
BOY! IF THAT ISN'T THE KETTLE CALLING THE FRYING PLAN BLACK!

You offend quite a number of folks, Len. Yes, it's awful.


The number is at least 3. TS.


Actually, with the exception of Brain, Vipul, and a handful of your
anonymous rooting section, just about everyone.

Perhaps Coslo might make it 4. Coslonaut wants so much
to be an olde-tymer he'll even refer to himself as an "extra
lite" to show his sycophantsies (e.g. synchronous fantasies).

All are NOT required to march to the same beat of the
same drummer. You want to drum the cadence but you
would be better off to beat it.


It's not about "marching to a different drummer".

It's about trying to walk over others.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

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