wrote:
wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:
I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and
over
again
in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in
Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had
TVI
too
(;-(

When was that?

73 de Jim, N2EY

--

There's always been "monkey business" here and there in the "CW
bands".

Of course!

The notion held by some that the CW bands are some sort of pristine
Radio Nirvana where there are no sinners is complete nonsense and/or
wishful thinking.

I don't recall anybody saying they were perfect. Just a lot better
behaved.

Go all the way back to the 1950s around 3.505 and
thereabouts on cold midnites when one could almost hear all the guys
listening for some DX to pop up. Got tiresome but we hung in. On any
number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of
listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide
to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB".

A certain other local OT DXer sez it was "5U4GB"

"QSL
via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro.

Wrong end of the burro, too.

Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High
Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if
they were really good ones.

All of which was pretty harmless compared to, say, intentional jamming,
cussing, threats, interference to genuine public service comms, etc.

Most of all - did FCC ever get involved? Were there complaints? Or was
it just a bit of shenanigans on the QRG?

Look at the enforcement letters *today* and see what the charges are.
And what modes are used. It ain't about a couple of CW DXers working a
slim.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote in message
ups.com...
wrote:
Caveat Lector wrote:
I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and
over
again
in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in
Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had
TVI
too
(;-(

When was that?

73 de Jim, N2EY

--

There's always been "monkey business" here and there in the "CW bands".
The notion held by some that the CW bands are some sort of pristine
Radio Nirvana where there are no sinners is complete nonsense and/or
wishful thinking. Go all the way back to the 1950s around 3.505 and
thereabouts on cold midnites when one could almost hear all the guys
listening for some DX to pop up. Got tiresome but we hung in. On any
number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of
listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide
to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL
via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro. Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High
Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if
they were really good ones.

w3rv


I got a 599 from 5U4GB in 1963.

Dan/W4NTI

A walk down memory lane ..... brought up some good memories .....

73 .... Tom Popovic KI3R Belle Vernon Pa.






On any
number of occasions some bush-league miscreant would get tired of
listening to the noise floor and just for the hell of it would decide
to generate a pileup. I dunno how many times I worked "6L6GB". "QSL
via the buro". Yeah, right. The W9 buro. Even Jack VE1ZZ the Lord High
Commissioner of 80M dxing couldn't resist jumping into those frays if
they were really good ones.

Caveat Lector wrote:
I recall many times -- one guy sent a four letter word over and over again
in CW with no ID -- local Hams found him turned him in
Gee what was he thinking -- no ID and obsentities - probably had TVI too
(;-(


One of the ham magazines did an article about some hams
tracking down a rogue automatic transmitter that would
from time to time transmit in FM audio tone Morse code
something like "JPI SUX" on a popular 2m repeater input.
The "JPI" being the suffix of the license of one of the
officials of the repeater club. Eventually the rogue
transmitter was found in a wildlife preserve desert
area. Battery operated transmitter coupled to an
auto id board and a ground plane antenna hidden in some
weeds. Hard to DF a transmitter that only fires up
at random every few hours for a few seconds. Seems they
never did figure out who done it....

wrote:
robert casey wrote:
Didn't think this could happen; someone operating
Morse code violating the rules....

Sure it can happen! It's just very rare, that's all.

When's the last time (before KC0AB) that a ham
*operating Morse Code* got into that much trouble with FCC?

I don't think the FCC has anyone in a monitoring position that can copy
Morse Code anymore.

from the ARRL web site newsletters:
http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/

The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott,
KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for "willful and repeated
failure to respond to Commission requests for information
about his station." The Commission released a
Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports
it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB
for several months now has been transmitting CW "24 hours a
day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While complainants assert
the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC
contends they interfere with other amateur communications
"due to an apparent lack of station control."

The guy has his station set up to send Bible verses 24/7.
Claims it's "code practice", and maybe it is.

Is he sending davinci code?

The violation isn't for his on-air behavior, but for his
refusal to respond to repeated FCC requests for
information.

That has been pointed out previously.

I've heard the guy, and I don't consider what he does to
be interference.

Amen. But unless he is capable of putting it on 5 bands
simultaneously...

But he should have responded to FCC long
long ago.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Perhaps he responds to a higher authority.

On 19 Feb 2005 18:31:04 -0800, bb wrote:

I don't think the FCC has anyone in a monitoring position that can copy
Morse Code anymore.

You are so wrong. Every FCC "technical enforcement agent" (used to
be called field engineers and monitoring technicians) still has
to be and remain qualified at 16 wpm groups/20 wpm plain-language.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On 19 Feb 2005 18:31:04 -0800, bb wrote:

I don't think the FCC has anyone in a monitoring position that can copy
Morse Code anymore.

You are so wrong. Every FCC "technical enforcement agent" (used to
be called field engineers and monitoring technicians) still has
to be and remain qualified at 16 wpm groups/20 wpm plain-language.

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


Hello, Phil

I'd have given anything to see those folks monitoring KG6AAY that day I
found out they (the U.S. Navy) monitored *everything* transmitted at the ham
shack on the U.S. Naval Communications Station on Guam. One of the guys
asked what the heck I was doing (he told me about the monitoring, I had
consumed several "beverages" - read "beer" - and I was at the low end of
40). I told him I was calling CQ. He said "That's not CQ". I assured him
it was - in American Land-Line Morse. Of course, after the initial call
sign was sent, I purposely slowed down and sent "KG6AAY" slowly in
International Morse.

Lo and behold, an old-timer came back - in American Morse.

When the other guy realized what I was doing, he started laughing. The
tears were streaming down our faces. We chatted for half an hour. I'd love
to guess how long those guys poured over those tapes figuring out what
secret message I was sending.

The Navy removed the refrigerator (and beer) within a week .... )


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

Before the
Federal Communications Commission
Washington, D.C. 20554



In the Matter of

Paul D. Westcott
Purdy, MO 65734

Licensee of Amateur Radio Station KC0OAB


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File No. EB-04-KC-135
NAL/Acct. No. 200532560001
FRN 0007599210









FORFEITURE ORDER

Adopted: February 14, 2005 Released: February 16, 2005


By the Assistant Chief, Enforcement Bureau:


1. In this Forfeiture Order ("Order"), we issue a monetary forfeiture in
the amount of four thousand dollars ($4,000) to Paul D. Westcott,
licensee of amateur radio station KC0OAB, for willful and repeated
failure to respond to Commission requests for information about his
station, pursuant to Section 308(b) of the Communications Act of 1934,
as amended ("Act").[1]


2. On November 30, 2004, the District Director of the Commission's
Kansas City Field Office ("Kansas City Office") issued a Notice of
Apparent Liability for Forfeiture ("NAL") in the amount of $4,000 to Mr.
Westcott.[2] Mr. Westcott has not filed a response to the NAL. Based on
the information before us, we affirm the forfeiture.


3. ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 503(b) of the
Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"),[3] and Sections 0.111,
0.311 and 1.80(f)(4) of the Commission's Rules,[4] Paul D. Westcott IS
LIABLE FOR A MONETARY FORFEITURE in the amount of $4,000 for willfully
and repeatedly failing to respond to Commission requests for information
about his station.


4. Payment of the forfeiture shall be made in the manner provided for in
Section 1.80 of the Rules within 30 days of the release of this Order.
If the forfeiture is not paid within the period specified, the case may
be referred to the Department of Justice for collection pursuant to
Section 504(a) of the Act.[5] Payment by check or money order may be
mailed to Forfeiture Collection Section, Finance Branch, Federal
Communications Commission, P.O. Box 73482, Chicago, Illinois 60673-7482.
Payment by overnight mail may be sent to Bank One/LB 73482, 525 West
Monroe, 8th Floor Mailroom, Chicago, IL 60661. Payment by wire transfer
may be made to ABA Number 071000013, receiving bank Bank One, and
account number 1165259. The payment should note NAL/Acct. No.
200532560001, and FRN 0007599210. Requests for full payment under an
installment plan should be sent to: Chief, Revenue and Receivables
Group, 445 12th Street, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20554.[6]


5. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that a copy of this Order shall be sent by
First Class Mail and Certified Mail Return Receipt Requested to Paul D.
Westcott at his address of record.


FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION


George R. Dillon
Assistant Chief, Enforcement Bureau


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robert casey wrote:

Didn't think this could happen; someone operating
Morse code violating the rules....

from the ARRL web site newsletters:
http://www.arrl.org/arrlletter/05/0218/

The FCC has affirmed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy,
Missouri, for "willful and repeated failure to respond to Commission
requests for information about his station." The Commission released a
Forfeiture Order in the case on February 16. The FCC reports it has
received
"numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB for several months now has been
transmitting CW "24 hours a day, 7 days a week" on 7.030 MHz. While
complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting, the FCC
contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an
apparent lack of station control."

robert casey wrote:


No doubt. But most of the serious 80M dxers in those days ran
"suds", a
lotta power, not just a lotta power but 'WAY too much power. Back
then
the max allowable power was one kW input vs. today's 1.5kW output.

Have heard what is likely an urban legend of a ham (who was
also a broadcast chief engineer) using the 50KW AM transmitter in his
charge to work some rare DX on some HF ham band. Late at
night when it was off for maintenance. Seems unlikely as the
power amp would have circuits tuned for the MW AM broadcast
station's frequency and low pass filters to block harmonics
in the SW spectrum. That's not something one can modify
in a few minutes.

It would be pretty easy to pull off so it wouldn't surprise at all me
if somebody really did put an AM b'cast station on 160.

Oh, you could connect a ham transceiver to the broadcast
antenna tower to work some 160m DX, but that would be
legal.

A similar stunt absoulutely was pulled off and I know the parties very
well. There were two young hotshot DX conetesters back around 1965,
Paul WA3FFR and his buddy Doug whose call I can't remember. Paul was an
EE co-op student engineer at my alma mater and worked at the USCG
electronics labs in Cape May NJ. Doug was a CG ensign or maybe a Lt JG
and worked with Paul. Those labs were the headquarters for the vast
USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could
find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran
antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew the
lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the 160M
dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one
weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back then
and not bad at all even today.

w3rv

wrote:

Those labs were the headquarters for the vast
USCG Loran system which operated on 160 along with the hams who could
find holes in the Loran QRM. Paul and Doug decided to put a Loran
antenna system to work in a 160 DX contest. And they did. They blew
the
lid off the band and came up with a score which which rewrote the
160M
dxing record book, worked something like 68 countries in one
weekend.'Ole Stew Perry never knew what hit him. Unthinkable back
then
and not bad at all even today.

w3rv

This is the part where K4YZ demands a letter from "thier" Commander.

"Sorry Kelly, USCG LORAN IS Amateur Radio!"

Hi, hi!