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Old March 6th 05, 04:02 AM
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in news:4229580A.BDD9A351
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K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

It's been
nearly two years since the first of those 18 petitions
arrived at the FCC and the conservative-traditionalists
mounted much cross-fire to those nasty radicals wanting
dirty, rotten change (hack, ptui) from divine, blessed,
noble olde-tyme regulations. Code MUST stay! It is "right!"
:-)

You've really worked yourself into a froth today, old timer. Too
much caffeine?

More probably a lack of Geritol, Dave...Ot too much? Does it
matter? He's a putz either way.

These demented rants of his grow more strange by the week. His
factual errors are numerous. The legion of lurkers which he claimed
would rise to the defense of his ideas never materialized and he's
irrelevant to amateur radio in this country.

Leonard really needs a new cause.

Dave K8MN


I'm not a lurker, but I will say that Lennie is right. Granted I'm not
sure why he's still here, since he could obviously pick up a no-code
licence any time he feels like it and doesn't seem to want to get on
HF anyway? However, his satirical comments, whilst over the top, seem
to be right on the money.


Noted. You're not a lurker. You support Len's idea for having a
minimum age for entrance into U.S. amateur radio. You join "bb" in the
Len Anderson Fan Club.


Where did you get that I support a minimum age? I don't.


It is one of Len's "over the top" satirical comments (to the FCC). I
take it that you aren't in favor of pedophiles in amateur radio either
then.

Dave K8MN
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Old March 6th 05, 12:36 PM
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Dave Heil wrote in
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in news:4229580A.BDD9A351
@earthlink.net:

K4YZ wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:
wrote:

It's been
nearly two years since the first of those 18 petitions
arrived at the FCC and the conservative-traditionalists
mounted much cross-fire to those nasty radicals wanting
dirty, rotten change (hack, ptui) from divine, blessed,
noble olde-tyme regulations. Code MUST stay! It is
"right!"
:-)

You've really worked yourself into a froth today, old timer.
Too much caffeine?

More probably a lack of Geritol, Dave...Ot too much? Does
it matter? He's a putz either way.

These demented rants of his grow more strange by the week. His
factual errors are numerous. The legion of lurkers which he
claimed would rise to the defense of his ideas never materialized
and he's irrelevant to amateur radio in this country.

Leonard really needs a new cause.

Dave K8MN


I'm not a lurker, but I will say that Lennie is right. Granted I'm
not sure why he's still here, since he could obviously pick up a
no-code licence any time he feels like it and doesn't seem to want
to get on HF anyway? However, his satirical comments, whilst over
the top, seem to be right on the money.

Noted. You're not a lurker. You support Len's idea for having a
minimum age for entrance into U.S. amateur radio. You join "bb" in
the Len Anderson Fan Club.


Where did you get that I support a minimum age? I don't.


It is one of Len's "over the top" satirical comments (to the FCC). I
take it that you aren't in favor of pedophiles in amateur radio either
then.

Dave K8MN


What kind of question is that? I don't think issuing licences to children
makes much difference from that angle. When someone is on the air they are
in a public place.
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Old March 6th 05, 03:02 PM
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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in


Where did you get that I support a minimum age? I don't.


It is one of Len's "over the top" satirical comments (to the FCC).

I
take it that you aren't in favor of pedophiles in amateur radio

either
then.


What kind of question is that? I don't think issuing licences to

children
makes much difference from that angle. When someone is on the air

they are
in a public place.


It's mathematics, Alun.... A = B = C.

You made statements approving of Lennie's "satirical" comments.

Lennie approves of a minimum age for Amateurs and has made (very
poorly worded) statements that appear to suggest he approves of
pedophiles in Amateur Radio. (I doubt he supports pedophilia, however
he WOULD support ANYthing that could blacken Amateur Radio's public
perception...)

Therefore you approve of a minimum age and pedophiles in Amateur
Radio.

I have every reason to doubt that you do support a minimum age for
Amateurs and I'd be shocked if you support pedophilia, however this is
a very clear example of why it is NOT possible to "have your cake and
eat it too" with regards to "free speech".

Lennie made some really idiotic comments vis-a-vis the presence of
pedophiles in Amateur Radio. I would HOPE that he didn't mean for
things to come out the way he said, although it's NOT in his nature to
back away from even the stupidest things he's done.

Lennie has also out-and-out lied over and over again vis-a-vis
Amatuer Radio and his personal "achivements".

And again, YOU stated that his comments were "over the top", but
were right on spot.

So....Would YOU care to retract or modify any part of your
declaration of "support" for Leonard, or was it indeed your intent to
"support" his mistruths, outright deceit, poor grammar and verbal
mayhem upon Amateur Radio...???

73

Steve, K4YZ

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Old March 6th 05, 06:27 PM
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"K4YZ" wrote in news:1110115499.953580.314740
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Alun L. Palmer wrote:
Dave Heil wrote in


Where did you get that I support a minimum age? I don't.

It is one of Len's "over the top" satirical comments (to the FCC). I
take it that you aren't in favor of pedophiles in amateur radio
either then.


What kind of question is that? I don't think issuing licences to
children makes much difference from that angle. When someone is on the
air they are in a public place.


It's mathematics, Alun.... A = B = C.

You made statements approving of Lennie's "satirical" comments.

Lennie approves of a minimum age for Amateurs and has made (very
poorly worded) statements that appear to suggest he approves of
pedophiles in Amateur Radio. (I doubt he supports pedophilia, however
he WOULD support ANYthing that could blacken Amateur Radio's public
perception...)

Therefore you approve of a minimum age and pedophiles in Amateur
Radio.

I have every reason to doubt that you do support a minimum age for
Amateurs and I'd be shocked if you support pedophilia, however this is
a very clear example of why it is NOT possible to "have your cake and
eat it too" with regards to "free speech".

Lennie made some really idiotic comments vis-a-vis the presence of
pedophiles in Amateur Radio. I would HOPE that he didn't mean for
things to come out the way he said, although it's NOT in his nature to
back away from even the stupidest things he's done.

Lennie has also out-and-out lied over and over again vis-a-vis
Amatuer Radio and his personal "achivements".

And again, YOU stated that his comments were "over the top", but
were right on spot.

So....Would YOU care to retract or modify any part of your
declaration of "support" for Leonard, or was it indeed your intent to
"support" his mistruths, outright deceit, poor grammar and verbal
mayhem upon Amateur Radio...???

73

Steve, K4YZ



It should be apparent even to an idiot that I was referring to a particular
comment of Len's, not to everything he has ever said!
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Old March 6th 05, 06:27 PM
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in
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"Alun L. Palmer" wrote:

Dave Heil wrote in
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I'm not a lurker, but I will say that Lennie is right. Granted I'm
not sure why he's still here, since he could obviously pick up a
no-code licence any time he feels like it and doesn't seem to want
to get on HF anyway? However, his satirical comments, whilst over
the top, seem to be right on the money.

Noted. You're not a lurker. You support Len's idea for having a
minimum age for entrance into U.S. amateur radio. You join "bb" in
the Len Anderson Fan Club.


Where did you get that I support a minimum age? I don't.


It is one of Len's "over the top" satirical comments (to the FCC). I
take it that you aren't in favor of pedophiles in amateur radio either
then.



What kind of question is that?


"Can't have any pedophiles in ham radio, no sir!"

--Len Anderson March 4, 2005

That kind of question.

I don't think issuing licences to children
makes much difference from that angle. When someone is on the air they are
in a public place.


I don't believe you are keeping up, Alun. I don't see a single problem
necessitating the need for a minimum age for amateur radio licensing.
Len does. His comments to the FCC are there to see.

His latest comment about pedophiles is certainly "over the top".

I'd be careful before writing "Lennie is right" unless you know
everything Len has stated--also because he deplores being called
"Lennie", never mind all the things he has called others.

Dave K8MN


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