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Old March 14th 05, 03:52 AM
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The fact is that in every election there are several groups:

1) Those who will vote Republican no matter what
2) Those who will vote Democrat no matter what
3) Those who won't vote, or will vote for a 3rd party candidate
with absolutely no real chance of winning, no matter what
4) Those who are truly independent, and who may vote Democrat,
Republican, 3rd party, or not at all, depending on a wide variety of
factors, and whose votes really can decide an election.

Successful campaigning is all about identifying the 4th group, and
getting them to vote for your candidate.

73 de Jim, N2EY


Hello, Jim

I used to try and look at the candidates, but what the current
administration is doing and setting us up for - I will, unfortunately, be
voting straight Democrat until things are a bit more balanced.

I know that sounds stupid, but when I found out that a co-worker was in
Desert Storm and has a 10% service connected disability ... and can *not*
get VA care ...(yep, even with an honorable discharge, you must serve at
least 2 years now to be treated for anything other than the service
connected disability).

Being a Vietnam veteran and seeing the changes at the VA, I honestly do
*not* believe the Republicans support the troops. They wave the flag and
make speeches (even visit the troops), but then forget them.

I couldn't believe they were going to attack the AARP as having a "gay"
agenda! The big deal is that they have dug a huge monetary pit and don't
want to repay the "borrowed" funds from Social Security. You think Hillary
Clinton or Martha Stewart are/were crooks?

So, unless the Republicans can come up with a candidate with something on
their mind other than big money, I have to vote something else. 3rd party
won't cut it as has been proven in the past.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


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Old March 14th 05, 06:54 AM
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

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The fact is that in every election there are several groups:

1) Those who will vote Republican no matter what
2) Those who will vote Democrat no matter what
3) Those who won't vote, or will vote for a 3rd party candidate
with absolutely no real chance of winning, no matter what
4) Those who are truly independent, and who may vote Democrat,
Republican, 3rd party, or not at all, depending on a wide variety of
factors, and whose votes really can decide an election.

Successful campaigning is all about identifying the 4th group, and
getting them to vote for your candidate.


Sometimes that means using crap like "family values" to
get the dumb ones to vote for the guy that will do for
them a worse job.



I used to try and look at the candidates, but what the current
administration is doing and setting us up for - I will, unfortunately, be
voting straight Democrat until things are a bit more balanced.



I couldn't believe they were going to attack the AARP as having a "gay"
agenda! The big deal is that they have dug a huge monetary pit and don't
want to repay the "borrowed" funds from Social Security. You think Hillary
Clinton or Martha Stewart are/were crooks?


All they have to do is increase the threshold where you stop paying
"FICA" from your paychecks. Oh wait, that's taxing the rich, can't
have that....

So, unless the Republicans can come up with a candidate with something on
their mind other than big money, I have to vote something else. 3rd party
won't cut it as has been proven in the past.


Voting 3rd party is like giving it to the Republicans, so I won't
vote 3rd party.

Last year nobody in these newsgroups could give me a reason
to vote for Bush. It's the economy stupid. What, I
should reward Bush for my income going way down....
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Old March 14th 05, 11:14 AM
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

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The fact is that in every election there are several groups:

1) Those who will vote Republican no matter what
2) Those who will vote Democrat no matter what
3) Those who won't vote, or will vote for a 3rd party candidate
with absolutely no real chance of winning, no matter what
4) Those who are truly independent, and who may vote Democrat,
Republican, 3rd party, or not at all, depending on a wide variety of
factors, and whose votes really can decide an election.

Successful campaigning is all about identifying the 4th group, and
getting them to vote for your candidate.


Sometimes that means using crap like "family values" to
get the dumb ones to vote for the guy that will do for
them a worse job.



I used to try and look at the candidates, but what the current
administration is doing and setting us up for - I will, unfortunately, be
voting straight Democrat until things are a bit more balanced.



I couldn't believe they were going to attack the AARP as having a "gay"
agenda! The big deal is that they have dug a huge monetary pit and don't
want to repay the "borrowed" funds from Social Security. You think
Hillary
Clinton or Martha Stewart are/were crooks?


All they have to do is increase the threshold where you stop paying
"FICA" from your paychecks. Oh wait, that's taxing the rich, can't
have that....

So, unless the Republicans can come up with a candidate with something on
their mind other than big money, I have to vote something else. 3rd
party
won't cut it as has been proven in the past.


Voting 3rd party is like giving it to the Republicans, so I won't
vote 3rd party.

Last year nobody in these newsgroups could give me a reason
to vote for Bush. It's the economy stupid. What, I
should reward Bush for my income going way down....




Do you always wait to have other people tell you who to vote for?
Nevermind, I see now, you blue state looney liberals are not capable
of deciding which candidate to vote for on your own.




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Old March 14th 05, 08:18 PM
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Last year nobody in these newsgroups could give me a reason
to vote for Bush. It's the economy stupid. What, I
should reward Bush for my income going way down....





Do you always wait to have other people tell you who to vote for?
Nevermind, I see now, you blue state looney liberals are not capable
of deciding which candidate to vote for on your own.


How do you figure that? I made my choice myself, and
heard nothing that justified changing my mind.



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Old March 15th 05, 01:47 AM
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

SNIP
Voting 3rd party is like giving it to the Republicans, so I won't
vote 3rd party.


Not always the case.
Bush senior lost to Clinton because of a 3rd Party (Perot).

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK





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Old March 15th 05, 03:57 AM
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"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

SNIP
Voting 3rd party is like giving it to the Republicans, so I won't
vote 3rd party.


Not always the case.
Bush senior lost to Clinton because of a 3rd Party (Perot).

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



And Perot made a remarkably strong showing for a 3rd Party candidate. If I
remember correctly, it's the strongest one in my lifetime and was more far
above the number actually needed to tip the win away from the Republicans.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old March 16th 05, 12:18 AM
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
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"robert casey" wrote in message
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JAMES HAMPTON wrote:

SNIP
Voting 3rd party is like giving it to the Republicans, so I won't
vote 3rd party.


Not always the case.
Bush senior lost to Clinton because of a 3rd Party (Perot).

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



And Perot made a remarkably strong showing for a 3rd Party candidate. If

I
remember correctly, it's the strongest one in my lifetime and was more far
above the number actually needed to tip the win away from the Republicans.


And he may not be a diplomat, but he gives a good pep rally and sure was
right about that "sucking sound" created by NAFTA!

ak


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