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Old March 16th 05, 02:24 PM
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K4YZ wrote:
The following is from the ARRL website...I brought over the first
paragraphs as a starting point. The remainder may be read in it's
entirety at www.arrl.org.

My question: Is this even an issue?

Less than .01% of all quilters are male...Is quilting about to
burn out?

Is there some great conspiracy to prevent women from testing? Are
there armed guards at the doors to bar their entrance? If so, I've
never seen them.


It seems to be the same with many technical careers or hobbies. There
is a lot of effort to recruit women to the engineering ranks. But not
that many appear to be attracted to it.

Perhaps we need to have tight control over this sort of thing. A
carreer / hobby lottery, so to speak. When you are in 6th grade, you
draw at random two things, a career slip and a hobby slip. And that is
what ya train for and do from then on. Strict control will have to be
exercised in order to enforce gender equity!

I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty goofy to me.

That there are less women in the ARS is true enough. But that is
interesting from a "why is that?" standpoint. It probably isn't so
interesting from a "how do we change Ham radio to attract more women?"
aspect.

Dee or Kim might be able to shed some light on that, in form of "Why I
am interested in Amateur radio" or perhaps some insight on why a lot of
women aren't.

- Mike KB3EIA -


QUOTE:
A Study of Amateur Radio Gender Demographics

By Ken Harker, WM5R
March 15, 2005

One of the under-represented demographics in the Amateur Radio world is
women. Everyone knows that there are many fewer female hams than there
are male hams, both among those licensed and those active on the air.
As a competitor at some of the major Amateur Radio Direction Finding
(ARDF) meets, I've noticed that the womens' entry categories have
had only about a fifth as many entrants as the mens' categories. As
an HF phone contester, I've observed that a very small percentage of
my QSOs are made with women operators (as low as 2%!). So how many
women Amateur Radio operators are there?

UNQUOTE


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Old March 17th 05, 12:40 AM
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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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That there are less women in the ARS is true enough. But that is
interesting from a "why is that?" standpoint. It probably isn't so
interesting from a "how do we change Ham radio to attract more women?"
aspect.

Dee or Kim might be able to shed some light on that, in form of "Why I am
interested in Amateur radio" or perhaps some insight on why a lot of women
aren't.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Well Mike, I got interested in Amateur Radio because my former husband
dragged me to a class saying "Let's do this TOGETHER." After I was
involved, I found that I enjoyed it for its own sake. So that's when I
decided to continue to study and upgrade and go all the way to Extra.
Although he and I parted a few years ago, I still am active in ham radio.

As you may or may not know, I am an engineer. However, I really can't say
why this and other technical fields don't attract more women. One of my
daughter's also went into engineering and the other one couldn't care less
for technical fields.

I'll give this some more thought though but right now must run my daughter
around.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old March 17th 05, 01:56 AM
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Michael Coslo wrote:

It seems to be the same with many technical careers or hobbies.

There
is a lot of effort to recruit women to the engineering ranks. But not


that many appear to be attracted to it.


Ditto meteorology. The American Meteorological Society had lots of
verbiage in the BAMS and a questionaire "what should we do to
attract..."

Time frame was 80's as I recall. I had hoped we had gotten past all
that by now. We've got women doctors, truck drivers, and weight
lifters. And even a movie about women boxers. It's time to drop the
"first woman to... whatever" stuff.

Perhaps we need to have tight control over this sort of thing. A
carreer / hobby lottery, so to speak. When you are in 6th grade, you
draw at random two things, a career slip and a hobby slip. And that

is
what ya train for and do from then on. Strict control will have to be


exercised in order to enforce gender equity!


The Gulag for the dissenters.

I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty goofy to me.

That there are less women in the ARS is true enough.


And?

But that is
interesting from a "why is that?" standpoint.


It's hard to tune them in on SSB.

It probably isn't so
interesting from a "how do we change Ham radio to attract more

women?"
aspect.


Reminds me of Larry Roll/K3LT and his "Welfare mothers of color"
remarks.

Dee or Kim might be able to shed some light on that, in form of "Why

I
am interested in Amateur radio" or perhaps some insight on why a lot

of
women aren't.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Whoa! I thought we weren't allowed to take anything Kim says
seriously? And Dee will merely spout the ARRL party line.

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Old March 17th 05, 02:22 AM
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"bb" wrote in message
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Michael Coslo wrote:

It seems to be the same with many technical careers or hobbies.

There
is a lot of effort to recruit women to the engineering ranks. But not


that many appear to be attracted to it.


Ditto meteorology. The American Meteorological Society had lots of
verbiage in the BAMS and a questionaire "what should we do to
attract..."

Time frame was 80's as I recall. I had hoped we had gotten past all
that by now. We've got women doctors, truck drivers, and weight
lifters. And even a movie about women boxers. It's time to drop the
"first woman to... whatever" stuff.

Perhaps we need to have tight control over this sort of thing. A
carreer / hobby lottery, so to speak. When you are in 6th grade, you
draw at random two things, a career slip and a hobby slip. And that

is
what ya train for and do from then on. Strict control will have to be


exercised in order to enforce gender equity!


The Gulag for the dissenters.

I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty goofy to me.

That there are less women in the ARS is true enough.


And?

But that is
interesting from a "why is that?" standpoint.


It's hard to tune them in on SSB.

It probably isn't so
interesting from a "how do we change Ham radio to attract more

women?"
aspect.


Reminds me of Larry Roll/K3LT and his "Welfare mothers of color"
remarks.

Dee or Kim might be able to shed some light on that, in form of "Why

I
am interested in Amateur radio" or perhaps some insight on why a lot

of
women aren't.

- Mike KB3EIA -


Whoa! I thought we weren't allowed to take anything Kim says
seriously? And Dee will merely spout the ARRL party line.


I do hope you meant to add a smiley to that.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old March 17th 05, 10:58 PM
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bb wrote:
Michael Coslo wrote:


It seems to be the same with many technical careers or hobbies.


There

is a lot of effort to recruit women to the engineering ranks. But not



that many appear to be attracted to it.



Ditto meteorology. The American Meteorological Society had lots of
verbiage in the BAMS and a questionaire "what should we do to
attract..."

Time frame was 80's as I recall. I had hoped we had gotten past all
that by now. We've got women doctors, truck drivers, and weight
lifters. And even a movie about women boxers. It's time to drop the
"first woman to... whatever" stuff.


Perhaps we need to have tight control over this sort of thing. A
carreer / hobby lottery, so to speak. When you are in 6th grade, you
draw at random two things, a career slip and a hobby slip. And that


is

what ya train for and do from then on. Strict control will have to be



exercised in order to enforce gender equity!



The Gulag for the dissenters.


I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty goofy to me.

That there are less women in the ARS is true enough.



And?


Right!



But that is

interesting from a "why is that?" standpoint.



It's hard to tune them in on SSB.


You are correct! perhaps *there* is the discrimination! hehe



It probably isn't so

interesting from a "how do we change Ham radio to attract more
women?" aspect.



Reminds me of Larry Roll/K3LT and his "Welfare mothers of color"
remarks.


That one was sorely troublesome.


Dee or Kim might be able to shed some light on that, in form of "Why
I am interested in Amateur radio" or perhaps some insight on why a lot
of women aren't.

- Mike KB3EIA -



Whoa! I thought we weren't allowed to take anything Kim says
seriously? And Dee will merely spout the ARRL party line.


I have no problems with either.

And I wonder what the ARRL party lin is on "wimmin in radio"?


- Mike KB3EIA -



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