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Dave Heil wrote in
: Michael Coslo wrote: K4YZ wrote: The following is from the ARRL website...I brought over the first paragraphs as a starting point. The remainder may be read in it's entirety at www.arrl.org. My question: Is this even an issue? Kind of. There is a wide gender gap between men and women in the engineering fields. But working in the field, they account for 9 percent of all U.S. engineers There is a quote that shows up at several sites: "Women still face gender-specific obstacles when studying and preparing for careers in engineering and other sciences. There is solid evidence that mentoring can help address this disparity" said Muller" There's any easy way out of all this stuff, Mike: Fire the president of Harvard. Lawrence Summers made some gender-specific comments on women in math and the sciences which, while true, may cost him his job. The PC police were all over him like African flies on a dung pile in the wake of his statements. I met Summers during his visit as Deputy Secretary of the Treasury to the U.S. Embassy in Helsinki. He showed less ego than any high level visitor I ever encountered. He was quickly known as "Call Me Larry" Summers since anyone addressing him as Mr. Summers or Secretary Summers was quickly told to "call me Larry". There are differences in the way that men and women think. There are things which mostly interest women and there are things which mostly interest men. There are things which a lot of men and not very many women are good at. There are things which a lot of women and not very men are good at. If you don't like my statement, fire Larry Summers. There aren't many women in amateur radio. There have never been many women in amateur radio. While the numbers have been and are likely to remain small, some of the females have been very, very good operators. Mae Burke W3CUL a CW whiz and traffic handling demon and DXers Martha Henson and Iris Colvin W6QL, come to mind. Now we need Len Anderson to chime in with something about how amateur radio is predominately "white". Dave K8MN I'm not Len, but it is. There are very few black hams in the US, although they have their own organisation, called OMIK. Apparently OMIK's original purpose was for black mobile operators to pass info about where they could stay, eat, buy gas, etc under the 'Jim Crow' laws. Whilst it's hard to tell someone's race on air, it also seems that in the Washington DC area the African Americans mostly seem to be self-segregated on the 145.110 repeater. Of course, that machine does belong to a club in the middle of the city, and not many white people live there. Now you've really opened up a can of worms, Dave. Alun, N3KIP |
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Now we need Len Anderson to chime in with something about how
amateur radio is predominately "white". Dave K8MN I'm not Len, but it is. True enough, Alun, just check out the ham photos in the last half-century's ham publications. No "profiling" qualifications needed... Whilst it's hard to tell someone's race on air, it also seems that On "CW" noboby can tell their gender. That maybe explains why WOMEN's tees are so "cool!" :-) Now you've really opened up a can of worms, Dave. Big badass dave LIKES worms, Alun. :-) |
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From: Dave Heil on Thurs, Mar 17 2005 4:49 am
wrote: Now we need Len Anderson to chime in with something about how amateur radio is predominately "white". I'm not Len, but it is. True enough, Alun, just check out the ham photos in the last half-century's ham publications. No "profiling" qualifications needed... That's right, Len. There are far fewer blacks than whites in amateur radio in the United States. Amateur radio in the U.S. is open to anyone. You've "never" asked yourself (or anyone else) WHY that is? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Mr. "equal opportunity" Heil with all the sarcastic arrogance he can muster DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHY U.S. amateur radio is essentially a white man's "club." Oh, my, how hypocritical can you get? Whilst it's hard to tell someone's race on air, it also seems that On "CW" noboby can tell their gender. That maybe explains why WOMEN's tees are so "cool!" :-) Because when using CW, nobody can tell your gender? Makes as much sense as anything else you've written, I suppose. Are you THAT brain-dead or living-in-fantasy while listening to "CW" that you CAN tell gender of the sender?!? What do you do on hearing that the other party is female, raise the beep pitch with your BFO knob?!? Jay-suss...big badass dave is hard-put to get anything to attempt humiliation and denigration of his "opponents." Tsk, tsk. Now you've really opened up a can of worms, Dave. Big badass dave LIKES worms, Alun. :-) Yes, I do, but I'm not awfully fond of you. AWWWWWW...poor lil davie is ALL UPSET because he isn't "loved and respected?!?" He wanna "take it out" on others? Poor guy is looking for love in all the wrong places. Tsk, tsk, tsk. GET WITH THE PROGRAM. A discussion of anything controversial WILL have all sorts of people "you don't like." Sunnuvagun! [as Hans likes to say...:-) ] Here's a newsflash, sweetums, it is NOT necessary to "like someone" about anything. The SUBJECT is (or should be) the discussion point...NOT the person or personality of whover YOU disagree with. U.S. amateur radio was NOT created especially for Dave Heil to enjoy. Dave Heil has NO more control over ham radio than I do...believe it or not! Dave Heil is NOT an FCC commissioner or staffer, does NOT "rule" anything but lines on paper pads. All of Dave Heil's "tenure" in amateur radio involves keeping his amateur license renewed. All the rest is arrogant posturing of the type of personality that needs to "control" everyone else. Dave Heil tries to "control" others by attempts at humiliation and denigration, then gets soooooooooo upset when he gets the same (and more) tossed right back in his face. Poor baby...and he thought he was "in control." Tsk, tsk, tsk. Does Dave Heil want a nice ARRL-south website where all can congratulate him on his long "career" as an amateur, rigidly following the league rulebook? No problem...easy thing to do ELSEWHERE. Posture and preen about yourself all you want (and you do so seem to want that) ELSEWHERE. U.S. amateur radio is NOT under YOUR control and won't be. If you want to pretend YOU control it, go ELSEWHERE. Meanwhile, the demographics on U.S. amateur radio show de facto that it is a WHITE MEN'S CLUB. If Davie wanna be "equal opportunity for all" (like he puts on to me), then Davie Heil ought to for damn sure go out and DO something about that. [the rest of the world does not exist to serve Davie Heil...or any PCTA] Posturing a lot of bull**** about "...it's open to all" may be the SPIN that all flag-waving, arrogant WHITE extras wanna rave about, but it's clearly NOT the case. It hasn't been the case for half a century. Davie Heil will NOT address the de facto WHITE MEN'S CLUB other than to misdirect into personal denigration against another. To me is going to come back with that idiotic "promise" that I allegedly made...about five years ago. Tsk, tsk. I NEVER took any "oath" or "vows" that I would do such a thing. Got that, Davie? NO "oaths," "vows," or promises. Doesn't matter on the SUBJECT whether or not I "get" a ham license. Big badass davie IS going to find some sort of personal denigration "charge" to misdirect the thread SUBJECT onto my person's alleged "faults." :-) He can't help it. He just doesn't like those having differing opinions than his. Davie Heil has been trying to toss me off this news- group for over seven years on all sorts of specious "charges." Tsk. He's FAILED! I'm still here. Poor guy must be twins (he's beside himself). Failure is NOT an option, Davie. TRY to get back ON the SUBJECT...WITHOUT resorting to all the alleged "faults" of another person. I don't think you can do it. |
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Lloyd wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... YOU contantly denigrate almost everyone here with allegations of Nazi sympathies, profanities and other such childish name-calling, then cry foul when redirected back to you. You've bottomed out, Lennie...Whatever potential you had at being of any value to community or avocation is long gone. Back under the rock, scumbag. When is scumbag k4yz going to post proof tht k1man was cited and sanctioned by the fcc? Oooooh! Lloydie has moved up to two syllable profanities! I am so (not) impressed! Same lame challenge...Still wordsmiting for some "advantage"...An advantage un-done by Google. Done deal. A simple Google search. I wonder if LLoydie will apologize or snivvel out. I vote on the snivvelling. Steve, K4YZ |
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Dave Heil wrote:
wrote: Dave Heil tries to "control" others by attempts at humiliation and denigration, then gets soooooooooo upset when he gets the same (and more) tossed right back in his face. Poor baby...and he thought he was "in control." Tsk, tsk, tsk. "AWWWWWW...poor lil davie is ALL UPSET because he isn't "loved and respected?!?" He wanna "take it out" on others?" --Leonard H. Anderson "Big badass dave LIKES worms, Alun. :-) " --Leonard H. Anderson Sorry, Len, you were saying? There I was...laying on the beach in Bora Bora with Brittney Spears when BAM BAM BAM...This loud sounds wakes me from my male chauvanist near-wet dream... And what do I find...?!?! Dave Heil awaking me with that NAIL being hit SQUARELY on Lennie's head...AGAIN! It was worth the early wake-up call, Dave! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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