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N9OGL to bust 2 Meter band Plan With "Information Bulletin" Broadcasts
From Todd's "blog"....
QUOTE: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 UPDATE: 2 METERS INFORMATION BULLETIN N9OGL is planning this summer to run his information bulletin / amateur related programs on 2 meters. It will begin in June on 145.570 MHz between 5.00pm to midnight. UNQUOTE Someone needs to teach this idiot about the 2 meter band plans. 144.0-144.05 EME CW 144.05-144.10 CW and weak signal 144.10-144.20 EME and weak signal SSB 144.200 National calling frequency 144.20-144.275 SSB 144.275-144.30 Beacons 144.3-144.5 New OSCAR subband 144.5-144.6 Linear translator inputs 144.6-144.9 FM repeater inputs 144.9-145.10 Weak signal and FM simplex 145.01,03,05,07,09 widely used for packet 145.1-145.2 Linear translator outputs 145.2-145.5 FM repeater outputs 145.5-145.8 Misc. and experimental modes Why are you going to use 145.57 for "Information Bulletins" in a part of the spectrum used for experimenting and other non-traditional modes and techniques, Todd...?!?! Yes, you can "rationalize" that "miscellaneous" means you, but why put your sin=mplex 2 meter FM voice signal where people will not be typically looking for one? Also, the International Space Station has been operating varying spaceborne repeater activities in this region...Just think of how many people you'll REALLY PO if they get jammed by your "broadcasts" on one of the few clear passes the station makes over thier location. They'll be talking about N9OGL then, I can assure you. 145.8-146.0 OSCAR subband 146.01-146.37 Repeater inputs 146.4-146.58 Simplex 146.61-147.390 Repeater outputs 147.42-147.57 Simplex 147.60-147.99 Repeater inputs 147.555MHZ is the frequency traditionally used for local information broadcasts, Todd. No, there's no "regulation" demanding it's use for this purpose, but it's far more likely you wouldn't interfere with anyone this way and we'd be less prone to laugh at you as hard as we're doing. Steve, K4YZ |
OHHHHHHHHH poor Stevey he won't be able to listen to my information
bulletins on 2 meters booo hooo |
N9OGL wrote (without attributes again): OHHHHHHHHH poor Stevey he won't be able to listen to my information bulletins on 2 meters booo hooo I have no use for them, Todd, on 2 meters or otherwise. Not only are you violating the "no broadcasting" rule of Part 97, it's now apparent that you have no repsect for established Band Plans. I cited the exact current plan for the 2 meter plan and this was your "response". I think that pretty much sums up what Amateur Radio can expect from you. And the reaction you are getting FROM Amateur Radio is pretty much a result of your lack of respect for the program, Todd. Steve, K4YZ |
I will point out that that is the ARRL National Band Plan....Band plans
do vary from state to state.....but I'm sure your aware of that. |
N9OGL wrote (again violating nettiquette by ignoring attributes): I will point out that that is the ARRL National Band Plan....Band plans do vary from state to state.....but I'm sure your aware of that. OK, Todd...enlighten us with the Illinois 2 meter Band Plan. Please provide us with the URL to the agency coordinating V/UHF allocations in Illinois. Steve, K4YZ |
I really know what Illinois Bandplan is.....but I do know it vary from
state to state.....because I believe Califorina does not recognize the "experimental part" of the 2 meter ham band. |
N9OGL wrote (more failure to observe nettiquette noted): I really know what Illinois Bandplan is.....but I do know it vary from state to state.....because I believe Califorina does not recognize the "experimental part" of the 2 meter ham band. Did you mean "I know what the Illinois Bandplan is"..?!?! Or did you mean "I really don't know what the bandplan is"..?!?! And you're not IN California, now are you? (Although I quite readily accept that you're "...in a different state...of mind...") So...busted AGAIN on yet another bit of INFORMATION that you have absolutely NO IDEA about but were quite willing to ACT like you did. Idiot. Steve, K4YZ |
well I do know here in Illinois that they allow voice repeaters on the
Amateur Television frequencies on 440. I also know that here in Illinois 145.5 to 145.8 is used here in Illinois for everything from wireless Amateur radio LAN to echolink. if anything I run my information bulletin on 146.835 Mhz hehehe |
N9OGL wrote: well I do know here in Illinois that they allow voice repeaters on the Amateur Television frequencies on 440. But that's not what we're talking about. The thread says "N9OGL to bust 2 meter band plan..." I also know that here in Illinois 145.5 to 145.8 is used here in Illinois for everything from wireless Amateur radio LAN to echolink. So you were ready to knowingly start using a relatively wideband mode in a part of the spectrum where low power data is being used... if anything I run my information bulletin on 146.835 Mhz hehehe At least you'd be on a repeater OUTPUT, and hence operating on a frequency planned for simplex and repeater outputs...THEN all you have to "worry" about will be causing interference to coordinated repeaters on 146.82 and .85. So what's your problem with picking an unused simplex frequency between 146.40-146.595 and 147.405 to 147.585 where simplex is supposed to be? Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: N9OGL wrote: well I do know here in Illinois that they allow voice repeaters on the Amateur Television frequencies on 440. But that's not what we're talking about. The thread says "N9OGL to bust 2 meter band plan..." I also know that here in Illinois 145.5 to 145.8 is used here in Illinois for everything from wireless Amateur radio LAN to echolink. So you were ready to knowingly start using a relatively wideband mode in a part of the spectrum where low power data is being used... if anything I run my information bulletin on 146.835 Mhz hehehe At least you'd be on a repeater OUTPUT, and hence operating on a frequency planned for simplex and repeater outputs...THEN all you have to "worry" about will be causing interference to coordinated repeaters on 146.82 and .85. my signal isn't that wide So what's your problem with picking an unused simplex frequency between 146.40-146.595 and 147.405 to 147.585 where simplex is supposed to be? i'll probably stick with 146.835 - 600 Khz Todd n9ogl Steve, K4YZ |
N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: (WOOOOHOOOO! He finally TOOK THE HINT!) At least you'd be on a repeater OUTPUT, and hence operating on a frequency planned for simplex and repeater outputs...THEN all you have to "worry" about will be causing interference to coordinated repeaters on 146.82 and .85. my signal isn't that wide It doesn't ahve to be 'wide' to casue interference, Todd. So what's your problem with picking an unused simplex frequency between 146.40-146.595 and 147.405 to 147.585 where simplex is supposed to be? i'll probably stick with 146.835 - 600 Khz Then you require coordination, Todd. Have you already applied for that? Or are you telling the coordinating authority to get ####ed too? Steve, K4YZ |
There's a repeater all ready there.
Todd n9ogl |
N9OGL wrote (that didn't last long....): There's a repeater all ready there. Well then, Toddie...I am sure you'll make yourself as welcome there as you have here...Only more so since you'll be aggrivating the locals...Guys who know where you live and only live a short distance away themselves. I am sure they'll be anxious to discuss your "information bulletins" with you in person. Enjoy! Steve, K4YZ |
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N9OGL wrote: Taylorville |SPF| |146.8350 - N9OGL |N9OGL http://www.ilra.net/illrdbyfreq.html Well, well, well! Toddie has his own repeater! I am sure it's the cornerstone of the Amateur net in Ill-annoyed! An it is, of course, completely scratch built! No commercial gear for Toddie! No "appliance operator" at N9OGL, No Siree! Please, Toddie! Tell us all about it! What PLANS did you build it from? Power? HAAT? ERP? Controller? Steve, K4YZ |
N9OGL wrote:
OHHHHHHHHH poor Stevey he won't be able to listen to my information bulletins on 2 meters booo hooo So just how many people do you think will hear your "broadcast" on 2 meters? You will be lucky if two people listen in and that will only be for maybe 2 minutes as they will quickly realize that what you have to say is of no interest to the amateur radio community. |
N9OGL wrote:
There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl So which repeater will you be using for your "broadcasts"? |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: N9OGL wrote: There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl So which repeater will you be using for your "broadcasts"? 148.835 MHz - 600K offset |
K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote: Taylorville |SPF| |146.8350 - N9OGL |N9OGL Controller? Steve, K4YZ Don't worry, he'll probably time himself out..... :-) |
robert casey wrote:
K4YZ wrote: N9OGL wrote: Taylorville |SPF| |146.8350 - N9OGL |N9OGL Controller? Steve, K4YZ Don't worry, he'll probably time himself out..... :-) AB-SO-LOOT-LEY! =) On his own repeater! Watta hoot! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
"N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dee Flint wrote: "N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. This is the one time Todd get's a "gold star"...According to the URL, his callsign is on it. Steve, K4YZ |
"K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. This is the one time Todd get's a "gold star"...According to the URL, his callsign is on it. Steve, K4YZ But is it coordinated? Are there any physically nearby repeaters on nearby frequencies? Based on his general approach, I think there is very little likelihood that he went through the coordination process to determine a suitable pair to use. By the way, didn't he indicate he was a "poor college student"? If so, how can he afford to put up a repeater? Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Dee Flint wrote: "K4YZ" wrote in message oups.com... Dee Flint wrote: "N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. This is the one time Todd get's a "gold star"...According to the URL, his callsign is on it. But is it coordinated? Are there any physically nearby repeaters on nearby frequencies? Based on his general approach, I think there is very little likelihood that he went through the coordination process to determine a suitable pair to use. It would appear to be, Dee. The information came from a published site. By the way, didn't he indicate he was a "poor college student"? If so, how can he afford to put up a repeater? I am sure he got it from the proceeds of the patent sales from his LOX cooled storage capacitor idea! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
Dee Flint wrote: "N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Read all the post ms Flint. It's his homebrew repeater. |
Jim wrote:
It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. |
"Jim" wrote in message ... Dee Flint wrote: "N9OGL" wrote in message oups.com... There's a repeater all ready there. Todd n9ogl If there is a repeater there and you intend to use it, you had better get the permission of the repeater owner. If you don't, he has the right to file an interference complaint and the FCC has a pretty good record of going after people who misuse repeaters. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE Read all the post ms Flint. It's his homebrew repeater. Sometimes posts are delayed and we get the follow-on information AFTER posting to the original item. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Todd N9OGL Todd |
N9OGL wrote:
K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Oy! Perhaps there are better choices than LOX? - Mike KB3EIA - |
N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Todd N9OGL Todd Todd, I understand that the voices in your head tell you that if you transmit in the past on your repeater that it will receive in the future. If you want to be everyone's hero, here's a hint for an invention. Invent a motor/engine big enough to propel a motor vehicle at 60 mph and have that motor/engine run purely on stray bpl signals! |
N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Hey...Mr Wizard... Do you know what you get when you mix fuel, an oxidizer and an ignition source? Do you know why liquid NITROGEN is used for cryogenic cooling rather than OXYGEN...?!?! Since I know YOU don't know the answer, why don't you ask some Cub Scout on his first camp-out working on his fire badge...I bet HE knows... Steve, K4YZ |
Jim wrote: N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Todd N9OGL Todd Todd, I understand that the voices in your head tell you that if you transmit in the past on your repeater that it will receive in the future. If you want to be everyone's hero, here's a hint for an invention. Invent a motor/engine big enough to propel a motor vehicle at 60 mph and have that motor/engine run purely on stray bpl signals! Hey Jim...Better yet...after we invent the Warp Drive engine, we'll pick some spot in deep space and fly ahead of his RF and put a repeater out there, then fly back to Earth and tell him when/where to listen. Hopefully while he's trying to figure out how to get a signal back to himself, medicine will have found a way to repair his deficient DNA...Or maybe just a non-traumatic way to get his head out of his intestinal tract... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Hey...Mr Wizard... Do you know what you get when you mix fuel, an oxidizer and an ignition source? That's Just it you moron, it isn't anywhere near a ignition source. you and you QRZ/EHAM CB buddies on here better stick with playing with your radio's Todd N9OGL Do you know why liquid NITROGEN is used for cryogenic cooling rather than OXYGEN...?!?! Since I know YOU don't know the answer, why don't you ask some Cub Scout on his first camp-out working on his fire badge...I bet HE knows... Steve, K4YZ |
Looking up Toddy's old posts has been a laugh a minute. It has proven
to be one of the most entertaining things ever. |
By the way, didn't he indicate he was a "poor college student"? Maybe "poor" in the sense that he gets lots of C's and D's and no A's. "I enjoyed Calculus so much I took it twice". |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. If he's sharing tower space with other users (non-ham at that), I hope he took precautions one needs to to avoid intermod trash with all those transmitters making lots of RF on that tower. Things like circulators and such. |
N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: N9OGL wrote: K4YZ wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. Powered by a massive electrolytic capacitor that's cooled by liquid oxygen! 73 Steve, K4YZ Well, there's where your wrong steve, the capacitor isn't cooled at all. It the chamber where the 1.4Mv of electricity is sent from it output point to the metal plates which collects the electrity, it is sent to the hybrid capacitor. The liquid oxygen flows through pipes like in your car between the plate chamber and the outer skin. Liquid Oxygen is used to keep the plate chamber cool because liquid oxygen is near absolute zero. Hey...Mr Wizard... Do you know what you get when you mix fuel, an oxidizer and an ignition source? Do you know why liquid NITROGEN is used for cryogenic cooling rather than OXYGEN...?!?! Since I know YOU don't know the answer, why don't you ask some Cub Scout on his first camp-out working on his fire badge...I bet HE knows... That's Just it you moron, it isn't anywhere near a ignition source. you and you QRZ/EHAM CB buddies on here better stick with playing with your radio's. Sure it is, Toddie! Your storage capacitor is a great source! Kile I said...Let the cryoplant fail, the LOX rewarms, the capacitor discharges, and .........kaaaaaa-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! And what's your problem with QRZ and eHam...??? Other than they are far less tolerant of an idiot than I am...??? Steve, K4YZ |
robert casey wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Jim wrote: It's his homebrew repeater. Now that a scary thought, a piece of equipment that is transmitting on the ham bands that has been built to CB radio standards by toddyboy. If he's sharing tower space with other users (non-ham at that), I hope he took precautions one needs to to avoid intermod trash with all those transmitters making lots of RF on that tower. Things like circulators and such. What ever he's "sharing" with other "users", Robert, it ain't tower space! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
robert casey wrote: By the way, didn't he indicate he was a "poor college student"? Maybe "poor" in the sense that he gets lots of C's and D's and no A's. "I enjoyed Calculus so much I took it twice". To be sure! We've already seen his competency in English. Imagine what it would be like in line at the grocery store where he will undoubtedly wind up working if we didn't have scanners to "do the math" for him. And I am being liberal here when I suggest he can handle THAT job! 73 Steve, K4YZ |
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