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![]() bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: The fact of the matter is that except in the most aggrevious warfare, more Americans die on the highways at home than do Servicemen. And heroes all of them, defending the country. """Sorry Hans, a run-over Jay-Walker IS a Veteran!!!""" Hi! The point beig, Brain, that civilians die in the course of both "peacetime" and states of war too. Do a bit of history research on "Maritime Marine", "Civil Air Patrol" and "Office of Civilian Defense" during WW2. CAP "civilians" still lose their lives "in the line of duty", and they weren't even getting paid for it. Steve, K4YZ |
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![]() K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: The fact of the matter is that except in the most aggrevious warfare, more Americans die on the highways at home than do Servicemen. And heroes all of them, defending the country. """Sorry Hans, a run-over Jay-Walker IS a Veteran!!!""" Hi! The point beig, Brain, that civilians die in the course of both "peacetime" and states of war too. Then they would have been wise to have stepped up to the plate and enlisted. Do a bit of history research on "Maritime Marine", "Civil Air Patrol" and "Office of Civilian Defense" during WW2. CAP "civilians" still lose their lives "in the line of duty", and they weren't even getting paid for it. Then they did something horribly, horribly wrong. |
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![]() bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: The fact of the matter is that except in the most aggrevious warfare, more Americans die on the highways at home than do Servicemen. And heroes all of them, defending the country. """Sorry Hans, a run-over Jay-Walker IS a Veteran!!!""" Hi! The point beig, Brain, that civilians die in the course of both "peacetime" and states of war too. Then they would have been wise to have stepped up to the plate and enlisted. Do a bit of history research on "Maritime Marine", "Civil Air Patrol" and "Office of Civilian Defense" during WW2. CAP "civilians" still lose their lives "in the line of duty", and they weren't even getting paid for it. Then they did something horribly, horribly wrong. Such as...?!?! People die every day doing whatever it is they do 100% safely. Like the local mother of two who was stopped at a traffic light. She was sober, alert, had her seat belt with shoulder belt on. A drunk driver careened through the intersection and struck her sqaure in the door. 3000+ people died three years ago just becasue they went to work that day. Did THEY do something "horribly, horribly wrong"...?!?! There's absolutely no guarantee to life other than you are going to die. What you do with your life until you do is to some degree in your own hands. The rest is the roll of the dice. Steve, K4YZ |
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From: "bb" on Sun,Apr 17 2005 4:37 pm
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: So, is lie #16 the conversation with a former colleague of Len's? Or is lie #16 Steve's tenure on RRAP? Or is it actually lies #16 and #17? Neither, but nice try. Steve, you lied. The only question is which time? The conversation with a former colleague of Len's? The length of tenure on RRAP? Or both. Fess up. Well well...Looks like I made an error in math. My bust. Well, well...it took you Quitesometime to fess up. Now where is Len's apology? Right behind HIS apology to this NG for years of lying, accusing, deceiving and antagonism, Brian...Right behind! Just hold your breath and wait! Steve, K4YZ Well, well. So much for your "strength of conviction." Lennie is YEARS BEHIND coming clean on his errors, lies and deceit, Brian... Y E A R S ! ! ! ! The old, "two wrongs makes a right" defense. I have to disagree. Robeson is so caught up in his personal hatred of me that he cannot possibly discuss anything rationally...or even act rationally. He is the constant antagonist of ANYONE who disagrees with him. Case in point is others' opinions. Robeson labels those as "LIES," perhaps even "deceit" even though those are just personal opinions. Apparently, in Stevieworld, only Stevie Robeson has the "truth." Ergo, in the logic of Stevieworld, ALL contrary (to Robeson's) opinions are "LIES" as well as "errors" and "deceit." That's quite sick. Irrational. Opinions are just opinions. However, Robeson seems to take everything against his opinions as a "personal attack." He then respond but that response IS a personal attack on his perceived attacker. He hasn't yet learned that such is NOT the way discussions go in our society. On the other hand, if Robeson has been so brainwashed by the remaining amateur radio membership organization that he believes ONLY what they say, then any negative against him is held AS a personal attack. That is NOT the fault of anyone voicing a negative opinion against Robeson's, it is Robeson's fault. You won't do what you know to be right because someone else isn't doing what you know to be right. I AM, repeat AM doing "what's right". Repeating something doesn't make it any more true or false. But in this case, it makes lies #19 and #20. Quite true, but Robeson hasn't learned to communicate with rational people yet. He simply drives home a blunt point that HE IS RIGHT with no proof or other reference that it IS right. That's either a monstrous ego at work there or it can be a curious mixture of the reasons I mentioned just before. Either way, it is not right...to rational people. You and Leonard are lairs, Brian. That's a falsehood, a LIE. Robeson's only justification of that is that HE IS RIGHT. It is his antagonist style which is so off-putting to so many...no justification, just the personal insult and LIE combination. You don't tell the truth. YOU make glaring errors, and then when I make a simple one, all of a sudden you think your slates are wiped clean. Robeson's simple LIE-insult in the first quoted sentence is an absolute statement. It is without any presented proof...therefore it is Robeson's OPINION. However, any of Robeson's OPINIONS are - in his communications here - perfectly "right." HE IS RIGHT in Stevieworld. Problem is, everyone else is NOT in Stevieworld (wherever that is). Lessee? 30 hours before Len makes an appearance in one of your demented threads, you're chiding him for disapproving of what you said. Then you have a conversation with a claimed colleague of Len's years and years before you ever heard of Len. Both cases were smear campaigns against Len, and you say you make simple errors??? Sorry...Doesn't work that way. That's right Steve, it doesn't work that way. What you said was an outright lie. Robeson's HATRED and ANGER seem to be overriding any rationality here. Robeson cannot prove the existance of this "fitrep" determiner. He has compounded that by numerous statements, none of which have any proof of truth. [see my previous message on this...] Actually, several years ago, Robeson tried the same ploy and embellished that until nearly in the form it was recently. That was unproveable then and his claim is unproveable now. None of this discussion has ANYTHING to do with amateur radio policy. It is just the usual Stevie psychotic activity in here, part of his general misuse of the newsgroup as his own personal "battleground." Robeson doesn't seem capable of acknowledging that he ever does anything wrong. That seems to increase his anger quotient and his personal insults grow to incomprehensible blatherings of Hatred and Anger. Robeson is an EXAMPLE of a modern U.S. Amateur Extra. Other Amateur Extras seem unable to take any strong action to stop his pollution of all threads in this newsgroup. All threads eventually turn into Robeson's insults of all his "opponents" in any discussion. A few have made negative comments to his style, notably Hans Brakob. Responses to those by Robeson were less than civil and uncomplimentary. |
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From: "K4YZ" on Mon,Apr 18 2005 2:26 am
wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,Apr 17 2005 4:37 pm Case in point is others' opinions. Robeson labels those as "LIES," perhaps even "deceit" even though those are just personal opinions. Apparently, in Stevieworld, only Stevie Robeson has the "truth." Ergo, in the logic of Stevieworld, ALL contrary (to Robeson's) opinions are "LIES" as well as "errors" and "deceit." That's quite sick. Irrational. Opinions are just opinions. Opinions are just opinions when they start off "My opinion on the subject is..." Or "I think it would be better if..." THOSE are opinions. Stop blabbering like a petulant child. Get with the program in computer-modem communications. YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU YOU JUST COMMANDED. You are NOT a "commander" of a damn thing in here. You can't control yourself or your angry, petulant, emotional outbursts. Lies and deceit are things like "The ARRL BoD is dishonest" or "ARES won't be able to respond becasue their members are too old and oover obligated "...oover obligated..." Finish what you write. Those are OPINIONS. No "law" requires prefacing "every" OPINION with your orders of the day. Kiss off. Quite true, but Robeson hasn't learned to communicate with rational people yet. He simply drives home a blunt point that HE IS RIGHT with no proof or other reference that it IS right. (A) Neither Leonard H Anderson or Brian P Burke are rational. They both make statements in public forum contrary to the presence of data that contradicts their assertions. WHAT "data?" Robeson has presented NO "data." (B) Nice try on the "no proof" assertions, Lennie....And only MORE proof that I am correct in calling you a liar. Robeson has NO "proof." All Robeson has is a seemingly unending list of personal insults against all those who disagree with him. Your marionette is presently avoiding answering questions about his assertions of the viability of ARES in the face of NUMEROUS news releases to the contrary. NO ONE is any "marionette." Your (usual) petulant outburst in another demonstrated fit of anger shows you have little "proof" of anything but your own anger and hatred of anyone saying the least negative thing about your own opinions. Huge snip of ususal obnxious verbosity to..... Other Amateur Extras seem unable to take any strong action to stop his pollution of all threads in this newsgroup. All threads eventually turn into Robeson's insults of all his "opponents" in any discussion. A few have made negative comments to his style, notably Hans Brakob. Responses to those by Robeson were less than civil and uncomplimentary. While I have no doubt that not everyone approves of my "up in your face" methology of dealing with the two of you, I DO notice that NONE of them, other than to acknowledge your "First Amendment Right" to do so, "support" YOUR presence here, Lennie. Tsk. Robeson should have all kinds of "doubt." :-) Robeson not only acts like the sociopath but has a monstrous EGO thinking that his "in your face" insult- fest is "approved" by those that count. :-) It dosen't take one of those "inquiring minds" to know why.... You are both liiars. What is a "liiar?" List the "LIES" supposedly said in here. You don't do what you'll say you'll do. Robeson has yet to "do what he says he will do." :-) Namely PROVE the existance of this imaginary "fitrep" person he says evaluated me at NADC 34 years ago. :-) Robeson has yet to acknowledge that the Department of Defense DOES DIRECT MARS...even when given the link to the latest document issued by the DoD. Robeson has yet to state the WHEN and WHERE of his mighty "hostile action" experiences. They're tired of the same "Back in 1953...." war satories. Well, regardless of the anger-induced typos ("satories"), I did work big-time HF communications for three straight years beginning in 1953. Robeson has NOT done anything close to that. Robeson has NEVER worked in electronics engineering as either civilian or military member, yet presumes to be "knowledgeable" about engineering after a very short-term job as a purchasing agent! You'e deceitful. Present the "proof." Describe the WHY where ALL MUST do exactly what they (allegedly) "promised" years ago. Robeson does little else but hurl personal insults at those who do not agree with him. That gets him the attention he seems to be desperately seeking. Robeson manages to turn EVERY thread in this newsgroup into his own "FIGHT" with all those who disagree with him. It really is THAT simple. Robeson IS "that simple." Robeson is an EXAMPLE of a modern U.S. Amateur Extra. |
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![]() wrote: From: "K4YZ" on Mon,Apr 18 2005 2:26 am That's quite sick. Irrational. Opinions are just opinions. Opinions are just opinions when they start off "My opinion on the subject is..." Or "I think it would be better if..." THOSE are opinions. Stop blabbering like a petulant child. Get with the program in computer-modem communications. YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU YOU JUST COMMANDED. I didn't "COMMAND" anything, Lennie. You are NOT a "commander" of a damn thing in here. Whoa! Profantiy! I am so impressed, Lennie! You are so strong when you start hurling profanity in a fitful rage! You can't control yourself or your angry, petulant, emotional outbursts. You insist I am in an angry, petulant mode, Lennie, but from what...?!?! "Expressing my opinion"...?!?! That "NCTA" double standard sneaking in??? Lies and deceit are things like "The ARRL BoD is dishonest" or "ARES won't be able to respond becasue their members are too old and oover obligated "...oover obligated..." Finish what you write. That was it, Lennie. Those are OPINIONS. No "law" requires prefacing "every" OPINION with your orders of the day. Kiss off. OH! Now THAT was a COMMAND, Lennie! And one that even further endears you to the ones you would seek to dominate and rule. Too bad were on to you, eh,...?!?! (A) Neither Leonard H Anderson or Brian P Burke are rational. They both make statements in public forum contrary to the presence of data that contradicts their assertions. WHAT "data?" Robeson has presented NO "data." Sure I have! Brian insisted ARES's usefulness and ability to respond to calls was "overblown". In the last week alone I have provided no fewer than four references that absolutely disprove his assertion, and all of those from news releases within DAYS of his comments. (B) Nice try on the "no proof" assertions, Lennie....And only MORE proof that I am correct in calling you a liar. Robeson has NO "proof." All Robeson has is a seemingly unending list of personal insults against all those who disagree with him. There's no "unending list of personal insults", Lennie. All I have to do is recite what YOU have said and what YOU have said you'd do then point out that you've not done it to make my point. Your marionette is presently avoiding answering questions about his assertions of the viability of ARES in the face of NUMEROUS news releases to the contrary. NO ONE is any "marionette." Brain P Burke is. He's yours, as a matter of fact. But he may get jealous...You've started tossing affectionate sounding conversation in Todd's direction...We may be ringside for a cat fight soon! Your (usual) petulant outburst in another demonstrated fit of anger shows you have little "proof" of anything but your own anger and hatred of anyone saying the least negative thing about your own opinions. No outburst. That's your imagination running amok, Lennie. While I have no doubt that not everyone approves of my "up in your face" methology of dealing with the two of you, I DO notice that NONE of them, other than to acknowledge your "First Amendment Right" to do so, "support" YOUR presence here, Lennie. Tsk. Robeson should have all kinds of "doubt." But why? Robeson not only acts like the sociopath but has a monstrous EGO thinking that his "in your face" insult- fest is "approved" by those that count. Lennie, you ARE the complete idiot I suggest you are. In the very paragraph YOU quoted, I stated very clearly that I "have no doubt" about who does or doesn't approve of my methodology of dealing with you. Why would you then make so assinine an assertion as to suggest that I have some ego to suggest I believe it's "approved"...?!?! Another snip of ususal pejorative laden rhetoric (that he claims is only used AGAINST him...).... Robeson IS "that simple." Not as "simple" as the alleged ex-radio engineer who makes assinine assertions based upon quotes that clearly undermine it. Robeson is an EXAMPLE of a modern U.S. Amateur Extra. And the IEEE should sue to get you to stop using an IEEE address in public. You're a humiliation to one and all. Steve, K4YZ |
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![]() K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Sun,Apr 17 2005 4:37 pm Case in point is others' opinions. Robeson labels those as "LIES," perhaps even "deceit" even though those are just personal opinions. Apparently, in Stevieworld, only Stevie Robeson has the "truth." Ergo, in the logic of Stevieworld, ALL contrary (to Robeson's) opinions are "LIES" as well as "errors" and "deceit." That's quite sick. Irrational. Opinions are just opinions. Opinions are just opinions when they start off "My opinion on the subject is..." Is that your official opinion? Lies and deceit are things like "The ARRL BoD is dishonest" or "ARES won't be able to respond becasue their members are too old and oover obligated Quite true, but Robeson hasn't learned to communicate with rational people yet. He simply drives home a blunt point that HE IS RIGHT with no proof or other reference that it IS right. (A) Neither Leonard H Anderson or Brian P Burke are rational. They both make statements in public forum contrary to the presence of data that contradicts their assertions. Yet the data also contradict your assertions, and therein is where one's opinion can be sourced. Even your own attempt at writing a simple schedule for an ARES exercise refuted your very claims that ARES alawys satisfies customers needs. (B) Nice try on the "no proof" assertions, Lennie....And only MORE proof that I am correct in calling you a liar. I am correct in calling you a liar. Your marionette is presently avoiding answering questions about his assertions of the viability of ARES in the face of NUMEROUS news releases to the contrary. Speak of avoiding... You are free to try rewriting the duty roster for that ARES exercise. But please do adhere to customers expectations. Huge snip of ususal obnxious verbosity to..... That would be "usual." Other Amateur Extras seem unable to take any strong action to stop his pollution of all threads in this newsgroup. All threads eventually turn into Robeson's insults of all his "opponents" in any discussion. A few have made negative comments to his style, notably Hans Brakob. Responses to those by Robeson were less than civil and uncomplimentary. While I have no doubt that not everyone approves of my "up in your face" methology of dealing with the two of you, I DO notice that NONE of them, other than to acknowledge your "First Amendment Right" to do so, "support" YOUR presence here, Lennie. It dosen't take one of those "inquiring minds" to know why.... You are both liiars. You don't do what you'll say you'll do. They're tired of the same "Back in 1953...." war satories. You'e deceitful. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ You've piled on the lies at an uprecedented rate in the past two weeks. Why would we believe anything you might say today? |
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