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Old May 20th 05, 06:40 AM
 
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From: "bb" on Thurs,May 19 2005 3:05 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
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Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.

Steve can't be wrong.


Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.


Yes, this time. Again.


Tsk. I think Stebie done tried to use "AF" meaning
"armed forces." He be confused. Not the first time.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)

Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to

have you
do puh ups.


"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?


I soft-stroked the "s." It taht a Federal Crime? Homosexual

Behavio[u]r?

How's your "rank" holding up?


Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.

Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he doesn't,

his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means

you
never did it.


No haunting, Brain.


Hi! Then produce your documentation.


Tsk. Stebie doesn't have any. Claims, brags, hot air, yes.

NO PROOF.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the information
provided you.


I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....


Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know that's

a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)


Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?


No proof. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass" and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them. That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...

Jim served in "other" ways.


You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have had

a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


In all of Title 47 C.F.R., the term "service" is a regulatory
one denoting the type and kind of radio activity being
regulated. Stebie doesn't understand that. He thinks that
the amateur service is some kind of "national service" or
"service to the country." :-)

In that case, the Citizens Band Radio SERVICE will have all radio
amateurs outnumbered by a large ratio. :-)

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the subject...

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to

let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


Now THAT will be INTERESTING! :-)



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Old May 21st 05, 11:59 PM
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From: "bb" on Thurs,May 19 2005 3:05 pm

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
wrote:

Poor lil Stebie doesn't understand that "AF" is a common
abbreviation for AIR FORCE.

Steve can't be wrong.

Sure he can...and sometimes is...but not this time.


Yes, this time. Again.


Tsk. I think Stebie done tried to use "AF" meaning
"armed forces." He be confused. Not the first time.

Stebie has the "proof in his wallet." :-)

Careful, now. Steve is a Captain in the CAP. He might try to

have you
do puh ups.

"puh ups"...?!?!

Are you having a hard time finishing what you start, Brain?


I soft-stroked the "s." It taht a Federal Crime? Homosexual

Behavio[u]r?

How's your "rank" holding up?


Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stinks like a lying sack of excrement.

Stebie will probably babble about "calling the VA" for
"verification" on that.

Steve either has documentation or he doesn't. And if he

doesn't,
his
words come back to haunt him once more. No documentation means

you
never did it.

No haunting, Brain.


Hi! Then produce your documentation.


Tsk. Stebie doesn't have any. Claims, brags, hot air, yes.

NO PROOF.


Even if his references could confirm his claims, it's likely they
wouldn't. There's a reason he was the "A" NCOIC.

The "haunting", here, is you refusing to act on the

information
provided you.


I don't act on "hot" tips.

Produce authentic documentation.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.


Hmmmm? No docs = lies. His rules, his logic, his embarassment.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....


Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.


Then he one sorry sack of excrement. Stinking to high heaven.

You know...those little things called "facts"...(I know

that's
a
new concept for you...deal with it though...)


Exactly!!! Facts. Got any?


No proof. Zero. Zip. Nada.


That's a problem. That's a huge problem, ...an insurmountable problem.

Just what does he think we'll accept without authentic documentation???

Meanwhile, back to the Extra Double Standard newsgroup

where
mighty macho morsemen can call their opponents "jackass"

and
"horse's ass" and "penis head" (in Yiddish) but their
opponents must be oh-so-polite and civil back to them.

That
kind of talk is "approved" by Jimmie Noserve...

Jim served in "other" ways.

You and Lennie brag about having been Veterans, however you

seem
to have a problem with understanding exactly what being a veteran

is
and what it stands for.

The last five Presidents of the United States seem to have

had
a
clear vision of volunteerism...and also about "service".


In all of Title 47 C.F.R., the term "service" is a regulatory
one denoting the type and kind of radio activity being
regulated. Stebie doesn't understand that. He thinks that
the amateur service is some kind of "national service" or
"service to the country." :-)

In that case, the Citizens Band Radio SERVICE will have all radio
amateurs outnumbered by a large ratio. :-)


He's talking about the guys driving 1982 Subaru station wagons with
"save da mediteranean fruit fly" and rainbow bumper stickers.

Indeed. Jim could have volunteered to serve in the Unites States
Military. He had other more important things to do like pursue a
degree in engineering, and looking out for himself. And the

military
still needs engineers, even if they are civilians. Go to
WWW.USAJOBS.OPM.GOV and select "Middle East."

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da double
standard.

Guess they shudda consulted with you two first, eh...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


I'm good with volunteerism in the U.S. armed services. Tell Jim to

let
us know how it's going when he gets there.


Now THAT will be INTERESTING! :-)



Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served" in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ. Hi!

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Old May 22nd 05, 10:53 AM
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Stebie is as rank as they come.


Stinks like a lying sack of excrement.


I smell like you?

Unlikely.

Even if his references could confirm his claims, it's likely they
wouldn't. There's a reason he was the "A" NCOIC.


Only one big one...being three paygrades junior to the guy who was
THE NCOIC.


Stebie no got them. Tsk.


Hmmmm? No docs = lies. His rules, his logic, his embarassment.


I'm not the embarrassed one here, Brain.

In case you weren't paying attention, only Todd falls for your
misdirects, and that's because he's a developmentally delayed adult.

Dates...times...places...callsigns....

Yes! Authentic documentation with dates, times, places and names.

Got any?


He no got.


Then he one sorry sack of excrement. Stinking to high heaven.


I smell like you?

Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


So far, nothing Jim has stated has been incorrect. He's corrected
you AND Lennie on numerous military issues, communications and
otherwise, and has yet to be shown to be wrong.

Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.

You and Lennie got to play rear area office clerk for most of your
tours. I give you some added credit for your Somalia tour, your
misrepresentation of your Amateur Radio exploits notwithstanding, but
not by much.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served" in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ.


I lucked out. The only "injury" I suffered in the field was some
sand that got in under my visor and flight glasses and irritated the
be-jeebers out of me. Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ

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Old May 22nd 05, 04:29 PM
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K4YZ wrote:
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Doesn't matter. Jimmie Noserve is an EXPERT on the military.
He KNOWS how military men feel/act/etc. Jimmie can "correct"
any veterans' "mistakes." He's read several books on the

subject...

Jimmy is Mr. Fiction. "No Experience = Shut-Up" according to da

double
standard.


So far, nothing Jim has stated has been incorrect.


Hi! Silly Gunny has his blinders on.

Jim constantly makes statements on things which he has no experience
in. Jim constantly tells others to be silent on things which they have
little or no experience in. That is a clear double-standard. That you
won't see it is telling.

He's corrected
you AND Lennie on numerous military issues, communications and
otherwise, and has yet to be shown to be wrong.


I recall you being corrected on military and MARS communications
issues. Often.

Highly, highly unlikely. Guys like Jim have no problem letting

guys
like you, me, and Steve take the risks. They set way, way back and
make the calls.


Don't try to lump yourself in with me, Brain. Most of my time

in
the USMC was crewing the MC version of the Pave Low (CH53A and D), a
lot of which got me put in places I was not real happy to be in.


The Reluctant Marine! Figures. Even reluctant people serve. So how
did Jim serve in other way?

You and Lennie got to play rear area office clerk for most of

your
tours. I give you some added credit for your Somalia tour, your
misrepresentation of your Amateur Radio exploits notwithstanding, but
not by much.


You don't "give" me anything. My service is not up for your approval.

Later on you learn that they gave blood at the ARC Bloodmobile on

the
third Thursday and are very, very good with it all. They "served"

in
other ways. Cheers with a little glass of OJ.


I lucked out. The only "injury" I suffered in the field was

some
sand that got in under my visor and flight glasses and irritated the
be-jeebers out of me.


So how did you malinger your way into a medical discharge requiring
rehabilitative therapy?

Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?

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Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?

..

Give it a rest, old timer. What Steve (or any other person) did or did not
do in service to this country is none of your business.
Nobody owes you an answer to anything.

It is probably just as well that Steve didn't bump into you at Dayton. You
would have had to walk all the way back to your car to change your Relys.




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Ralph wrote:
Some of my colleagues weren't so lucky. That
bloodmobile donation you just made fun of was their ticket home

alive
instead of in a bag.

Steve, K4YZ


People everywhere are lucky because others give blood and organ

tissue.


But Jim says he "served in other ways." What ways?

.

Give it a rest, old timer.


I'm no old-timer. In ham years I'm a young pup. I've been licensed
less than 20 years to prove it.

What Steve (or any other person) did or did not
do in service to this country is none of your business.
Nobody owes you an answer to anything.


Ordinarily, I would agree. However, Steve has demanded such
information from myself and others. What I have done is placed his
demands and his rules back on him. He squirms in his new role.

It is probably just as well that Steve didn't bump into you at

Dayton. You
would have had to walk all the way back to your car to change your

Relys.

Welp, he was the one who set up the meeting. I didn't feel right about
meeting up with a disabled veteran; apparently it was his long felt
desire. But where the rubber meets the road, he got a flat.

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From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
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For years and years the ARRL has emphasized morsemanship
over and above all other skills in amateur radio.


How, Len?

Let's look at some examples...


Policy:

In 1953, when the FCC opened all amateur operating privileges to all

US
radio amateurs except Novices and Technicians, ARRL did not
try to require more code testing for full privileges.


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


In 1963, in its original "incentive licensing" proposal to FCC, ARRL
proposed that full privileges be available only to Advanced and

Extra
licensees, and that the Advanced be reopened to new issues. This

meant
that full priviliges would require more written testing but not more
code testing.


I advocate that full privs be established for 90WPM tested amateurs.
Got any??? Privs for those not able to achieve 90WPM will be
reassigned to the BPL bands. Idiot!


As Jimmie Noserve likes to put it, "that's simply 'untrue'." :-)

Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur radio
license.


Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.

N2EY is so full of EXTRA excrement that I just can't allow the rest of
his original post to be quoted. You offend thinking people unlike any
"off color" callsign that you would care to strike.


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.



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Old May 24th 05, 12:31 AM
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From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
wrote:
For years and years the ARRL has emphasized morsemanship
over and above all other skills in amateur radio.

How, Len?

Let's look at some examples...


Policy:

In 1953, when the FCC opened all amateur operating privileges to

all
US
radio amateurs except Novices and Technicians, ARRL did not
try to require more code testing for full privileges.


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)


He may have lusted in his heart, but he is no peanut farmer.

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


Hey, you went through the IGY57/58. Did you notice anything unusual
about the propagation?

In 1963, in its original "incentive licensing" proposal to FCC,

ARRL
proposed that full privileges be available only to Advanced and

Extra
licensees, and that the Advanced be reopened to new issues. This

meant
that full priviliges would require more written testing but not

more
code testing.


I advocate that full privs be established for 90WPM tested amateurs.
Got any??? Privs for those not able to achieve 90WPM will be
reassigned to the BPL bands. Idiot!


As Jimmie Noserve likes to put it, "that's simply 'untrue'." :-)

Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.


These clowns have no problem denying amateur privs to people who cannot
attain 5, 13, or 20wpm rates. I wish to set the bar higher than they
can attain and deny privs to them. That is all.

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur radio
license.


Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the

ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


I guess "Extra-wipe" was a bit strong. So sorry.

Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.


History Prof Jim is a revisionist.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.


Oh, please. You know how these guys are about documentation. Long on
demands, short on product.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.


The train was leaving the station. Toot-toot. They had to jump aboard
or get left behind.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.


Not only that, but the FCC doesn't appear to be looking at the ARRL in
any leadership capacity.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.


Don't confuse them with the facts

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.


Ask him how far it is to the moon. Hi!

N2EY is so full of EXTRA excrement that I just can't allow the rest

of
his original post to be quoted. You offend thinking people unlike

any
"off color" callsign that you would care to strike.


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."


Ever since I pointed out that his comment "A morse code exam would be a
barrier to morse code use" was exactly our point, he's gotten Extra
defensive and ultra-sensitive.

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.



I especially like his vision of an active amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi! What a vision! What a revision!!!

bb

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From: "bb" on Mon,May 23 2005 4:31 pm

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From: "bb" on Sat,May 21 2005 5:04 pm

wrote:
wrote:


Their very, very last effort at leadership. Fifty two years ago.

HALF A FRIGGIN LIFETIME AGO FOR RADIO EXPERIMENTORS!!! Idiot!


Jimmie was THERE...in his heart. :-)


He may have lusted in his heart, but he is no peanut farmer.


"Our" Jimmie is NO "president." :-)

Gosh and gee-whilikers...in 1953 I was doing HF communications
while in the U.S. Army and didn't have to know a thing about
morse code. Reason is probably that NONE of the three dozen
high power transmitters at one station (only the 3rd largest in
the Army network) used any morse code. NONE of the personnel
at that station were required to know morse code to operate
all those transmitters (minimum 1 KW RF out, maximum 15 KW
but later increased to 40 KW). HF bands, 24/7 operations,
nearly a quarter million messages handled each month.


Hey, you went through the IGY57/58. Did you notice anything unusual
about the propagation?


I returned to the States in early 1956.

The only thing I recall was a TOTAL ionospheric blackout
(on local midnight shift) in the Fall of 1955. Lasted about
three hours, give or take. Back-logged about 100 messages or
so which impacted the flow a bit. Before IGY, of course.
Only the long-distance circuits (nearly all) over 300 miles
were affected. VHF and above LOS was not affected.


Brian, you have to understand that Jimmie is the Compleat
(amateur) Manchurian Candidate. Fully brainwashed into thinking
that the ARRL is the holy grail of "truth" and all good works.


These clowns have no problem denying amateur privs to people who

cannot
attain 5, 13, or 20wpm rates. I wish to set the bar higher than they
can attain and deny privs to them. That is all.


Didn't and doesn't bother me either way, but remember that
those clowns "pioneered the airwaves"...speaking of course of
N2EY, K4YZ, W3RV, K8MN. They are "more deserving" because
they exist. :-)

In 1990, ARRL supported the creation of a nocodetest amateur

radio
license.

Why not 1987??? Idiot!

Where was the ARRL's leadership when the FCC made the "Novice
Enhancement?" Why did the FCC have to go it alone without the

ARRL's
"""Leadership???""" Extra-wipe! Idiot!


I guess "Extra-wipe" was a bit strong. So sorry.


Don't be. I used an extra tissue wiping my eyes due to
laughing at them... :-)

Jimmie is WRONG BY OMISSION. According to all the documents
PRIOR to the final decision on FCC 90-53, the ARRL was
AGAINST that. The ARRL only supported the final R&O on the
creation of the no-code-test Technician class AFTER THE FACT.


History Prof Jim is a revisionist.


Well, he doesn't exactly "lie," but neither is he telling
ALL the truth. He follows the ARRL Party Line exactly.

Jimmie just can't bring himself to admit that many OTHER
parties were trying to cancel the code test PRIOR to 1990.
Some time spent in the FCC Reading Room of the correspondence
PRIOR to 1990 will show enough support for No-Code-Test that
the FCC was lobbied into the 90-53 issuance.


Oh, please. You know how these guys are about documentation. Long on
demands, short on product.


Yes, I do...but remember that "these guys" are all PCTA Extras
and have their Double Standard to rationalize their actions.

However, Jimmie is still upset about OLD postings in here and
demands some kind of "recount" and weird "admission of guilt"
over some imaginary "wrongdoing." Jimmie's MISDIRECTION into
old, old posting arguments is one form of his rationalizations.

Once the NO-CODE-TEST Technician class was established, the
ARRL had no other choice to "support" it...it would have been
politically destructive to the League to oppose it AFTER THE
FACT.


The train was leaving the station. Toot-toot. They had to jump

aboard
or get left behind.


Jimmie wants to "forget" about the ARRL statements made prior
to and during 90-53.

Jimmie wants to OMIT certain details to show that the ARRL is
in the "leadership." It isn't. The ARRL still hasn't gotten
a membership larger than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs.


Not only that, but the FCC doesn't appear to be looking at the ARRL in
any leadership capacity.


That seems evident now that the Internet allows DIRECT
communications with the FCC. Opinions of individual hams are
no longer "screened" by the ARRL for ARRL lobbying.

The FASTEST GROWING CLASS in U.S. amateur radio - since 1991 -
is that very same NO-CODE-TEST Technician class. NO OTHER
class has grown so large, so quickly, in the history of
amateur radio as regulated by the FCC since 1934.


Don't confuse them with the facts


I can't confuse them when they don't recognize those facts.

Jimmie is going to trot out his outworn cliches' and other
statements (nearly all sinning by omission of details) and
state "that is simply wrong." :-) He can't think for
himself anymore in amateur radio matters, apparently. He
is one of the number-one bunting putter-upper and flag
waver for the League. The ARRL can do NO wrong in his eyes.


Ask him how far it is to the moon. Hi!


? Is he pretending to be Ralph Kramden? :-)


In my view, Jimmie is so brainwashed that he can't help himself.
He, like Stebie da Avenging Angle of Dearth, is into such a
fantasy that Jimmie really thinks what he writes is "truth"
and anything contrary is "untrue." Jimmie just can't conceive
of his words being in error, therefore he speaks "truth."


Ever since I pointed out that his comment "A morse code exam would be

a
barrier to morse code use" was exactly our point, he's gotten Extra
defensive and ultra-sensitive.


Jimmie won't admit to making errors. It's as simple as that.

As to the "off-color callsign" (Kim's vanity call), that's just
his personal morality thing. It's almost like he took Vows and
was ordained a Priest in the Holy Orders of the Church of
St. Hiram...of the Latter-Day Radio Saints? Or was it
Former-Day Radio Saints? Must be that for his wanting to
cite all those "leadership" actions happening during and
before he was born. Another amateur "role-model" to emulate
on seeking the "highest goals" in amateur radio...complete
Nirvana in morsemanship. Ho hum.

I especially like his vision of an active amateur radio service during
WWII. Hi! What a vision! What a revision!!!


Super vision! [either he IS that or NEEDS that... :-) ]

Jimmie "lived" IN WW2...in his heart and fantasy...just never
was IN the military or faced the prospect of harm to his body
then or later...when he was alive and could have, but didn't,
serve in the military. "He served in other ways..."

I just can't picture Jimmie using an M-209 Code Converter and
tapping on an AN/GRC-9 to "send intel back from the front lines"
to his unit (which wasn't done much in actual fact). Since the
tanks and trucks depended on VOICE comms over VHF sets in Yurp
then, he can't be pictured using a knee key in a bouncing
Sherman tank facing the Panzers along the Rhine. Neither can
he be thought of as "working" the ARC-5 sets in B-17s and B-24s
over Germany (the two pilots used the Command set, the radio-
op-gunner was only connected to the low-HF Liason set). He
certainly wouldn't use VOICE on the first "handie-talkie" (on
HF, operational in 1940) since he thinks HF is only for morse.
Neither would he be pictured using a BC-1000 "walkie-talkie"
(VHF voice only and Heavy backpack) even though that was
widely used - and praised - by the "grunts" of that time,
both in Italy and in Yurp. Jimmie is a MORSEMAN and that is
that... :-)



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