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N9OGL May 28th 05 05:36 AM

The ARRL Lies
 
From N9OGL BLOG
http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

I have figured out what amateur's think the way the do when it comes to
information bulletins and what I am running. It is not the FCC that is
telling them this ****, but the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and
here is what I'm talking about. The following is from the The FCC Rule
Book : Complete Guide to the FCC Regulations Governing Amateur Radio
published by the American Radio Relay League Edited by Norm Bliss
WA1CCQ. The title is called One-Way Information Bulletins and it reads:


"The best known one-way bulletin comes from W1AW, for decades, W1AW
has transmitted brief information bulletins. It is common practice for
other amateur stations to conduct similar operations, usually on a
localized basis, and as part of a scheduled net or on some other
limited, scheduled basis. Such Bulletin are important to the
dissemination of timely and accurate information to radio amateurs

W1AW and other stations providing this service generally have been
careful to make such bulletins brief and factual. Occasionally, such as
during the launch of an amateur radio satellite or space shuttle, some
amateur stations using phone have been put into quasi-broadcast
operation to provide real-time information about a developing situation
of special interest to radio amateurs. Such events are rare and
amateurs have exercised restraint [97.113(b)(e)]

According to rules, the content of bulletins must be limited to
information on matter of direct interest to radio amateurs only, and
never intended for the ears of the general public [97.3(a)(24)]. As
with business communications, the potential for abuse of one-way
transmissions rule has long existed. There is no room in the crowded
amateur high-frequency bands for lengthy one-way transmissions on a
regular, quasi-broadcast basis. Information bulletins by definition
must be confined to factual matter, not a matter opinion. They must be
intended to inform, rather than to entertain. [97.111(b)(6)]" (ARRL
The FCC Rulebook, 1995, page 4-4)

This information which the ARRL is publishing is not true for the
simple reason that he FCC in a warning letter to K1MAN in 2004 stated
that his programs were in compliance with the FCC rules concerning the
content of his programs. They also stated that there was "No specific
time limits placed upon information bulletins by the commission rules."
[Warning Letter to K1MAN, April 14 2004, Page 2 Section 4] The FCC has
even stated on their website that "The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service."
So who are going to believe the ARRL who is pushing content control and
supress free speech of the FCC???


Dan/W4NTI May 28th 05 10:27 AM


"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
From N9OGL BLOG

http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

I have figured out what amateur's think the way the do when it comes to
information bulletins and what I am running. It is not the FCC that is
telling them this ****, but the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and
here is what I'm talking about. The following is from the The FCC Rule
Book : Complete Guide to the FCC Regulations Governing Amateur Radio
published by the American Radio Relay League Edited by Norm Bliss
WA1CCQ. The title is called One-Way Information Bulletins and it reads:


"The best known one-way bulletin comes from W1AW, for decades, W1AW
has transmitted brief information bulletins. It is common practice for
other amateur stations to conduct similar operations, usually on a
localized basis, and as part of a scheduled net or on some other
limited, scheduled basis. Such Bulletin are important to the
dissemination of timely and accurate information to radio amateurs

W1AW and other stations providing this service generally have been
careful to make such bulletins brief and factual. Occasionally, such as
during the launch of an amateur radio satellite or space shuttle, some
amateur stations using phone have been put into quasi-broadcast
operation to provide real-time information about a developing situation
of special interest to radio amateurs. Such events are rare and
amateurs have exercised restraint [97.113(b)(e)]

According to rules, the content of bulletins must be limited to
information on matter of direct interest to radio amateurs only, and
never intended for the ears of the general public [97.3(a)(24)]. As
with business communications, the potential for abuse of one-way
transmissions rule has long existed. There is no room in the crowded
amateur high-frequency bands for lengthy one-way transmissions on a
regular, quasi-broadcast basis. Information bulletins by definition
must be confined to factual matter, not a matter opinion. They must be
intended to inform, rather than to entertain. [97.111(b)(6)]" (ARRL
The FCC Rulebook, 1995, page 4-4)

This information which the ARRL is publishing is not true for the
simple reason that he FCC in a warning letter to K1MAN in 2004 stated
that his programs were in compliance with the FCC rules concerning the
content of his programs. They also stated that there was "No specific
time limits placed upon information bulletins by the commission rules."
[Warning Letter to K1MAN, April 14 2004, Page 2 Section 4] The FCC has
even stated on their website that "The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service."
So who are going to believe the ARRL who is pushing content control and
supress free speech of the FCC???


You sound like a under educated clone of K1MAN. Oh BTW....where is his
20meter "show" now big mouth?

You don't seem to get it do you Toad? You can't beat city hall. You
certainly can't compete with a bunch of lawyers on the Federal tit. Wake up
before they come down on you so hard you won't know what hit you.

Dan/W4NTI



Dee Flint May 28th 05 01:38 PM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...

"N9OGL" wrote in message
oups.com...
From N9OGL BLOG

http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

I have figured out what amateur's think the way the do when it comes to
information bulletins and what I am running. It is not the FCC that is
telling them this ****, but the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) and
here is what I'm talking about. The following is from the The FCC Rule
Book : Complete Guide to the FCC Regulations Governing Amateur Radio
published by the American Radio Relay League Edited by Norm Bliss
WA1CCQ. The title is called One-Way Information Bulletins and it reads:


"The best known one-way bulletin comes from W1AW, for decades, W1AW
has transmitted brief information bulletins. It is common practice for
other amateur stations to conduct similar operations, usually on a
localized basis, and as part of a scheduled net or on some other
limited, scheduled basis. Such Bulletin are important to the
dissemination of timely and accurate information to radio amateurs

W1AW and other stations providing this service generally have been
careful to make such bulletins brief and factual. Occasionally, such as
during the launch of an amateur radio satellite or space shuttle, some
amateur stations using phone have been put into quasi-broadcast
operation to provide real-time information about a developing situation
of special interest to radio amateurs. Such events are rare and
amateurs have exercised restraint [97.113(b)(e)]

According to rules, the content of bulletins must be limited to
information on matter of direct interest to radio amateurs only, and
never intended for the ears of the general public [97.3(a)(24)]. As
with business communications, the potential for abuse of one-way
transmissions rule has long existed. There is no room in the crowded
amateur high-frequency bands for lengthy one-way transmissions on a
regular, quasi-broadcast basis. Information bulletins by definition
must be confined to factual matter, not a matter opinion. They must be
intended to inform, rather than to entertain. [97.111(b)(6)]" (ARRL
The FCC Rulebook, 1995, page 4-4)

This information which the ARRL is publishing is not true for the
simple reason that he FCC in a warning letter to K1MAN in 2004 stated
that his programs were in compliance with the FCC rules concerning the
content of his programs. They also stated that there was "No specific
time limits placed upon information bulletins by the commission rules."
[Warning Letter to K1MAN, April 14 2004, Page 2 Section 4] The FCC has
even stated on their website that "The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service."
So who are going to believe the ARRL who is pushing content control and
supress free speech of the FCC???


You sound like a under educated clone of K1MAN. Oh BTW....where is his
20meter "show" now big mouth?

You don't seem to get it do you Toad? You can't beat city hall. You
certainly can't compete with a bunch of lawyers on the Federal tit. Wake
up before they come down on you so hard you won't know what hit you.

Dan/W4NTI


People have tried and tried to tell him that opinion, facts, news, and
information are four different things but he persists in confusing the four
items. No one would have any problem with his transimitting facts, news or
information but he persists in insisting that opinion falls under the
category of information. The only "opinions" that would fit the information
definition are those rendered by the judicial system or a governing body as
they are clarifications of the rules. Based on the one or two titles of
this broadcasts that he has listed here, his do not qualify as information.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



K4YZ May 28th 05 01:54 PM



N9OGL wrote:
From N9OGL BLOG

http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

I have figured out what amateur's think the way the do when it comes to
information bulletins and what I am running...(SNIP TO...)


This information which the ARRL is publishing is not true for the
simple reason that he FCC in a warning letter to K1MAN in 2004 stated
that his programs were in compliance with the FCC rules concerning the
content of his programs. They also stated that there was "No specific
time limits placed upon information bulletins by the commission rules."
[Warning Letter to K1MAN, April 14 2004, Page 2 Section 4] The FCC has
even stated on their website that "The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service."


That warning letter was the opinon of the person writing it, and
NOT "official policy". THE ONLY "RULES" THE FCC CAN ENFORCE ARE THOSE
IN WRITING AS PUBLSIHED IN PART 97 EXCEPT UNDER VERY STRICT AND LIMITED
INSTANCES.

K1MAN's operations were found to be generally in compliance, but
he ahs also be warned, re-warned, and warned again about pusing those
limits.

So who are going to believe the ARRL who is pushing content control and
supress free speech of the FCC???


The ARRL is suppressing the "free speech of the FCC"...?!?!

BBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W H A T A N I D I O T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Todd...You want to be the next "K1MAN"...fine...MOST people are
going to scorn your name, threaten your safety, sue you in court and
otherwise make a mockery of you and your "cause". The only one's
"supporting" you are going to be people like...well...like YOU!

Steve, K4YZ


KC8GXW May 28th 05 02:38 PM



N9OGL wrote:

From N9OGL BLOG

snip all c&p

Toad didn't write this, there's no major spelling errors, all he can do
is echo somebody else!


KC8GXW May 28th 05 05:24 PM



K4YZ wrote:


N9OGL wrote:

From N9OGL BLOG

http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

I have figured out what amateur's think the way the do when it comes to
information bulletins and what I am running...(SNIP TO...)



This information which the ARRL is publishing is not true for the
simple reason that he FCC in a warning letter to K1MAN in 2004 stated
that his programs were in compliance with the FCC rules concerning the
content of his programs. They also stated that there was "No specific
time limits placed upon information bulletins by the commission rules."
[Warning Letter to K1MAN, April 14 2004, Page 2 Section 4] The FCC has
even stated on their website that "The control operator of the station
transmitting an information bulletin is responsible for determining
that the subject matter is of direct interest to the amateur service."



That warning letter was the opinon of the person writing it, and
NOT "official policy". THE ONLY "RULES" THE FCC CAN ENFORCE ARE THOSE
IN WRITING AS PUBLSIHED IN PART 97 EXCEPT UNDER VERY STRICT AND LIMITED
INSTANCES.

K1MAN's operations were found to be generally in compliance, but
he ahs also be warned, re-warned, and warned again about pusing those
limits.


So who are going to believe the ARRL who is pushing content control and
supress free speech of the FCC???



The ARRL is suppressing the "free speech of the FCC"...?!?!

BBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W H A T A N I D I O T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Todd...You want to be the next "K1MAN"...fine...MOST people are
going to scorn your name, threaten your safety, sue you in court and
otherwise make a mockery of you and your "cause". The only one's
"supporting" you are going to be people like...well...like YOU!

Steve, K4YZ


Nobody warned his parents in the 60's that drug usage could lead to
birth defects in their yet unborn children!


KC8GXW May 28th 05 09:56 PM



N9OGL wrote:
CRAP FROM HIS BLOG
If it's on your blog and people can comment on it at your blog, why
repost it here, isn't that spam? If you're posting it here, why have the
blog? That's just like putting your lame show on every ham band. People
that want it will find it, you don't need to shove it down their throat.
But then again you are in a religious town where they shove it at you
every chance they get, every corner, ring your door bell, call you on
the phone then mail you a copy!
Now toad, don't twist this around and call me a nazi and tell me to die,
I'll take that as a threat and I believe in the golden rule, "Do unto
others before the do unto you!"


Cmd Buzz Corey May 29th 05 02:48 AM

N9OGL wrote:
From N9OGL BLOG

http://n9oglvoice.blogspot.com/

THE ARRL LIES!!!!!

According to rules, the content of bulletins must be limited to
information on matter of direct interest to radio amateurs only, and
never intended for the ears of the general public [97.3(a)(24)].


Well there is where they got you toddieboy, you see whatever you have to
say is of no direct interest to radio amateurs (or to anyone for that
matter).

Cmd Buzz Corey May 29th 05 02:57 AM

K4YZ wrote:


The ARRL is suppressing the "free speech of the FCC"...?!?!

BBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W H A T A N I D I O T ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Todd...You want to be the next "K1MAN"...fine...MOST people are
going to scorn your name, threaten your safety, sue you in court and
otherwise make a mockery of you and your "cause". The only one's
"supporting" you are going to be people like...well...like YOU!

Steve, K4YZ


The kid is a blithering idiot.

N9OGL May 29th 05 08:05 AM

But, according to the FCC it is the station transmitting the bulletin
to determine if it is of interest to amateur radio operators....not
some morons on the newsgroup on the internet.

Todd N9OGL


K4YZ May 29th 05 11:17 AM



N9OGL wrote:
But, according to the FCC it is the station transmitting the bulletin
to determine if it is of interest to amateur radio operators....not
some morons on the newsgroup on the internet.


Then why do you insist on bringing it here?

And don't you realize that since YOU are determining the content,
NOT the people listening, YOU are going to make a LOT of enemies?

You keep calling all the people who are potential listeners to your
broadcasts "morons"...How do you intend to develop any listener base by
insulting everyone you come into contact with.

Pay attention, Todd...

No one in this forum, and there are quite a few disparate
ideologies here, likes your idea or supports you. When this many
people who can't agree on anything else DO agree on ONE thing, you can
bet your bottom dollar that it's true. And we all agree you're an
idiot.

We don't care about your half-baked "theories". They are as dumb
as they come. They're unsafe, to boot.

Your opinions on FCC practice and policy are based upon your
emotional, knee jerk reactions based on YOUR failures to get a
broadcast license which was, in and of itself, due to YOUR unworthiness
for said licensure.

You're a loser all the way around, and we (yes...the "royal "we")
don't give a hoot about you or your opinions

It's not about "suppressing (your) free speech".."Speech" all you
want to...we just don't want to HEAR it, Todd. So if you keep running
into brick walls everytime you open your mouth, don't say you weren't
told.

Steve, K4YZ


Phil Kane May 29th 05 10:19 PM

On Sat, 28 May 2005 21:48:26 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:

Well there is where they got you toddieboy, you see whatever you have to
say is of no direct interest to radio amateurs (or to anyone for that
matter).


And where it says that the station licensee is responsible for
determining if the content complies with the rules, what it means is
that if it doesn't comply, it's the station licensee who gets hit
in the face, not that the station licensee has a free hand to do
whatever s/he wants.

Simple words for simple folks.....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane



KC8GXW May 29th 05 11:28 PM



Phil Kane wrote:
On Sat, 28 May 2005 21:48:26 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:


Well there is where they got you toddieboy, you see whatever you have to
say is of no direct interest to radio amateurs (or to anyone for that
matter).



And where it says that the station licensee is responsible for
determining if the content complies with the rules, what it means is
that if it doesn't comply, it's the station licensee who gets hit
in the face, not that the station licensee has a free hand to do
whatever s/he wants.

Simple words for simple folks.....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

What you don't understand is that if toad says it then it's true in his
mind.
Toad can twist the meaning to fit his needs at the time, this is his
idea of freedom of speech. As an example only, toad will read in the
bible that God put plants with seeds on earth for man's consumption,
toad will turn that around to mean, marijuana has seeds so it's ok to
smoke it and the hell with any laws because that's what the toad wants
to do!


Cmd Buzz Corey May 30th 05 01:16 AM

Phil Kane wrote:
On Sat, 28 May 2005 21:48:26 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:


Well there is where they got you toddieboy, you see whatever you have to
say is of no direct interest to radio amateurs (or to anyone for that
matter).



And where it says that the station licensee is responsible for
determining if the content complies with the rules, what it means is
that if it doesn't comply, it's the station licensee who gets hit
in the face, not that the station licensee has a free hand to do
whatever s/he wants.

Simple words for simple folks.....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane


However toddieboy thinks he can come up with any subject, add his on
warped opinions, declare it of interest to hams and present it as a
bulletin and he is within the rules. This 39 year old kid, still
sponging off his parents, doesn't have a clue.

N9OGL May 30th 05 04:13 AM

However toddieboy thinks he can come up with any subject, add his on
warped opinions, declare it of interest to hams and present it as a
bulletin and he is within the rules. This 39 year old kid, still
sponging off his parents, doesn't have a clue.


As long as it amateur related it's legal, no where in the FCC rules
does it state that information bulletins can't be opinionated. It's you
and he other's on here that don't have a clue.

Todd N9OGL


K4YZ May 30th 05 09:47 AM



N9OGL wrote:
However toddieboy thinks he can come up with any subject, add his on
warped opinions, declare it of interest to hams and present it as a
bulletin and he is within the rules. This 39 year old kid, still
sponging off his parents, doesn't have a clue.


As long as it amateur related it's legal, no where in the FCC rules
does it state that information bulletins can't be opinionated. It's you
and he other's on here that don't have a clue.


The "clueless one" is going to be the midwestern "bulletin station
broadcaster" with a bushel-ful of 10-penny nails in his coax, Todd....

Steve, K4YZ


KC8GXW May 30th 05 12:50 PM



N9OGL wrote:
However toddieboy thinks he can come up with any subject, add his on
warped opinions, declare it of interest to hams and present it as a
bulletin and he is within the rules. This 39 year old kid, still
sponging off his parents, doesn't have a clue.



As long as it amateur related it's legal, no where in the FCC rules
does it state that information bulletins can't be opinionated. It's you
and he other's on here that don't have a clue.

Todd N9OGL

If nobody here has a clue and they all hate you and you are so much
superior then everybody here (I know how you like run on sentences), Why
the heck do you continue to show your gay face here? Stay on your blog
and life will be grand. To quote your own words "EAT CRAP, BARK AT THE
MOON, THEN DIE IDIOT.


Mr. Obvious May 30th 05 01:17 PM

Somewhere there's a psychiatrist who could make a living off Toddie
alone.


Cmd Buzz Corey May 30th 05 03:14 PM

Mr. Obvious wrote:
Somewhere there's a psychiatrist who could make a living off Toddie
alone.


Only if his mommy and daddy pay the bill. toddieboy doesn't have a job
(can't hold one) so he sure couldn't. A 36 year old, jobless nothing
living off his parents, what a joke. Mom and Dad should have kicked him
out long ago.

Jim Hampton May 30th 05 06:58 PM


"Phil Kane" wrote in message
ganews.com...
On Sat, 28 May 2005 21:48:26 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:

Well there is where they got you toddieboy, you see whatever you have to
say is of no direct interest to radio amateurs (or to anyone for that
matter).


And where it says that the station licensee is responsible for
determining if the content complies with the rules, what it means is
that if it doesn't comply, it's the station licensee who gets hit
in the face, not that the station licensee has a free hand to do
whatever s/he wants.

Simple words for simple folks.....

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane



Hello, Phil

A good effort, but your post has a couple of minor problems despite not
having any errors. You use the word "licensee"; I have serious doubts if
most of the flame-fest types understand that term. Besides, a lot of folks
will interpret the rules the way they see fit. I'd love to see someone try
to explain to a judge what the law states. Oh, I'd *love* to be in that
courtroom.

I hope any such individual has deep pockets, not to mention some spare time
;)


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA




N9OGL May 31st 05 12:21 AM

Commander CornWhore said
Only if his mommy and daddy pay the bill. toddieboy doesn't have a job
(can't hold one) so he sure couldn't. A 36 year old, jobless nothing
living off his parents, what a joke. Mom and Dad should have kicked him
out long ago.


I don't have job, because I'm too busy with school. So Cornwhore, I
don't have the time for a job. As for paying the bills, I've done my
share for paying the bills. As for living of mommy and daddy, I've made
my money in stocks that I don't have to worry.


N9OGL May 31st 05 12:46 AM

The "clueless one" is going to be the midwestern "bulletin station
broadcaster" with a bushel-ful of 10-penny nails in his coax, Todd....
Steve, K4YZ


No, Steve you and the other morons on here are the clueless ones,
because you and the others one here can't understand that

1. No where in the FCC rules does it state that an Information
Bulletin has to be news bulletin or newscast. Nor, does it state that
an information bulletin can't be opinionated.

2. The FCC has stated repeatedly that there is no time limit on
information bulletins, in the FCC rules

3. It is up to the station transmitting the information bulletin to
make sure it is amateur related, notthe stations listening.

Todd N9OGL
THE N9OGL SHOW


Dan/W4NTI May 31st 05 01:59 AM


"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
The "clueless one" is going to be the midwestern "bulletin station
broadcaster" with a bushel-ful of 10-penny nails in his coax, Todd....
Steve, K4YZ


No, Steve you and the other morons on here are the clueless ones,
because you and the others one here can't understand that

1. No where in the FCC rules does it state that an Information
Bulletin has to be news bulletin or newscast. Nor, does it state that
an information bulletin can't be opinionated.

2. The FCC has stated repeatedly that there is no time limit on
information bulletins, in the FCC rules

3. It is up to the station transmitting the information bulletin to
make sure it is amateur related, notthe stations listening.

Todd N9OGL
THE N9OGL SHOW


If all this is true.....where is K1MAN's "call in talk show" ?????????????

Dan/W4NTI



N9OGL May 31st 05 02:25 AM

If all this is true.....where is K1MAN's "call in talk show" ?????????????
Dan/W4NTI



I don't know Dan, but what i've heard he has moved frequency, I can ask
him if you want. But the FCC ruled last year that the content of his
station was legal, except for the reward he offered for the names of
the people causing Interference. But the content of his station was
legal, the FCC seems to go after him for interference.

Todd N9OGL


Dan/W4NTI May 31st 05 03:11 AM


"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
If all this is true.....where is K1MAN's "call in talk show"
?????????????
Dan/W4NTI



I don't know Dan, but what i've heard he has moved frequency, I can ask
him if you want. But the FCC ruled last year that the content of his
station was legal, except for the reward he offered for the names of
the people causing Interference. But the content of his station was
legal, the FCC seems to go after him for interference.

Todd N9OGL


You are so ignorant, and naive Todd. He didn't change frequency. He was
told to knock it off. 14.275 BELONGED to him. Just ask him. Go ahead and
have a chat with the wannabe broadcaster....tell him this.............if he
comes back on 14.275 the war resumes.

You are going down the same trail Todd......pay attention for once.


Dan/W4NTI



N9OGL May 31st 05 03:23 AM

The difference between me and him Danny is I chck to see if the
frequency is in use, if it is I move on. I pick a unused frequency to
run my bulletin. Your the one ingnorant and naive if you can understand
that his transmissions (except for the interference) is legal, The FCC
said so and your stupid that you can't understand that.

Todd N9OGL


N9OGL May 31st 05 03:23 AM

The difference between me and him Danny is I chck to see if the
frequency is in use, if it is I move on. I pick a unused frequency to
run my bulletin. Your the one ingnorant and naive if you can understand
that his transmissions (except for the interference) is legal, The FCC
said so and your stupid that you can't understand that.

Todd N9OGL


Cmd Buzz Corey May 31st 05 03:33 AM

N9OGL wrote:
Commander CornWhore said
Only if his mommy and daddy pay the bill. toddieboy doesn't have a job
(can't hold one) so he sure couldn't. A 36 year old, jobless nothing
living off his parents, what a joke. Mom and Dad should have kicked him
out long ago.



I don't have job, because I'm too busy with school.


Sure, anything you say toddieboy.

So Cornwhore, I
don't have the time for a job. As for paying the bills, I've done my
share for paying the bills. As for living of mommy and daddy, I've made
my money in stocks that I don't have to worry.


Sure you have toddieboy. So if you have made so much money is stocks,
why don't you get your own place and let mom and dad have their own
space for a change?


Dave Heil May 31st 05 05:41 AM

N9OGL wrote:
Your the one ingnorant and naive if you can understand
that his transmissions (except for the interference) is legal...



Priceless!

Dave K8MN

K4YZ May 31st 05 12:04 PM



N9OGL wrote:
The difference between me and him Danny is I chck to see if the
frequency is in use, if it is I move on. I pick a unused frequency to
run my bulletin.


Obviously not, LiarToddie. There's already rumblings about your
diatribe just showing up in the middle of on-going QSO's.

Your the one ingnorant and naive if you can understand
that his transmissions (except for the interference) is legal, The FCC
said so and your stupid that you can't understand that.


I really had a suck-butt night at work, and this was just what I
needed to add some laughter back into my routine.

Thanks, Todd! You are good for ONE thing... ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ


KC8GXW May 31st 05 01:51 PM



N9OGL wrote:

Commander CornWhore said
Only if his mommy and daddy pay the bill. toddieboy doesn't have a job
(can't hold one) so he sure couldn't. A 36 year old, jobless nothing
living off his parents, what a joke. Mom and Dad should have kicked him
out long ago.



I don't have job, because I'm too busy with school. So Cornwhore, I
don't have the time for a job. As for paying the bills, I've done my
share for paying the bills. As for living of mommy and daddy, I've made
my money in stocks that I don't have to worry.


The only "stocks" you've made money at is being a stock boy at
Wall-Mart, and you got fired from there because you're gay!
If you were/are so rich, why were you working at wallyworld less then a
year ago?
BTW Schools out for the summer!


N9OGL May 31st 05 04:06 PM

Obviously not, LiarToddie. There's already rumblings about your
diatribe just showing up in the middle of on-going QSO's.


YEAH RIGHT, KC8GXW is lying at his ass and your a stupid **** to
believe him.

Todd N9OGL


N9OGL May 31st 05 04:06 PM

Obviously not, LiarToddie. There's already rumblings about your
diatribe just showing up in the middle of on-going QSO's.


YEAH RIGHT, KC8GXW is lying at his ass and your a stupid **** to
believe him.

Todd N9OGL


KC8GXW May 31st 05 06:06 PM



N9OGL wrote:
Obviously not, LiarToddie. There's already rumblings about your
diatribe just showing up in the middle of on-going QSO's.



YEAH RIGHT, KC8GXW is lying at his ass and your a stupid **** to
believe him.

Todd N9OGL

lying at his ass ??? How do I lie at my ass? Prove it! I've proved
all of your lies.

And for the last time idiot it's YOU'RE a stupid f*** not YOUR a stupid
f***.


N9OGL May 31st 05 07:11 PM

lying at his ass ??? How do I lie at my ass? Prove it! I've proved
all of your lies.
And for the last time idiot it's YOU'RE a stupid f*** not YOUR a stupid
f***.


I mean't to say your lying out your ass which you are....you getting on
here claiming I was interferning with a QSO in progress, you are a
****ING LIAR, just like you buddy steve. YOU WANT ME PROVE IT, OK YOU
LITTLE ****ER, ALL MY HF ANTENNA'S ARE DOWN AND HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR THE
LAST TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING A NEW ROOF ON OUR HOUSE...YOU
****ING LYING ASSHOLE. SO PROVE ME OTHERWISE BITCH.


TODD N9OGL


Cmd Buzz Corey May 31st 05 07:45 PM

N9OGL wrote:
lying at his ass ??? How do I lie at my ass? Prove it! I've proved
all of your lies.
And for the last time idiot it's YOU'RE a stupid f*** not YOUR a stupid
f***.



I mean't to say your lying out your ass which you are....


Toddieboy, you stupidity is simply amazing.

KC8GXW May 31st 05 08:08 PM



N9OGL wrote:

lying at his ass ??? How do I lie at my ass? Prove it! I've proved
all of your lies.
And for the last time idiot it's YOU'RE a stupid f*** not YOUR a stupid
f***.



I mean't to say your lying out your ass which you are....you getting on
here claiming I was interferning with a QSO in progress, you are a
****ING LIAR, just like you buddy steve. YOU WANT ME PROVE IT, OK YOU
LITTLE ****ER, ALL MY HF ANTENNA'S ARE DOWN AND HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR THE
LAST TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING A NEW ROOF ON OUR HOUSE...YOU
****ING LYING ASSHOLE. SO PROVE ME OTHERWISE BITCH.


TODD N9OGL


I mean't to say....What kind of word is that?
Don't you say on your blog that your show is on 20 meters on Saturday's
at 4.00 pm?
Does this mean that you are lying on your blog? Get it right toad, you
can't have it both ways! Didn't you go off on a rampage and blame
KC8GWX , Rand Fuller of attempting to jam your show?
Do you know any other words besides B**** F***** A**H***
BTW the way toad, I'm not so little, so stop calling me little, I've
seen you and it wouldn't take me more then 10 seconds to slap you into
the little whining gay boy that you are!
I've got a copy of the tape, so you can pull all your antennas down,
heck you didn't have any antennas up last month when you were going to
get on the liberty net!
Name 1 person here that has had a QSO on hf with you, even just name,
QTH, RST. You've never been on HF idiot and before you insult my
intellect you better get some more "intelegents" your self.
Hey gayboy, schools out, you were fired last fall so you couldn't have
gotten through more then 1 semester, get a job, McDonalds maybe?



KC8GXW May 31st 05 08:13 PM



N9OGL wrote:

The difference between me and him Danny is I chck to see if the
frequency is in use, if it is I move on. I pick a unused frequency to
run my bulletin. Your the one ingnorant and naive if you can understand
that his transmissions (except for the interference) is legal, The FCC
said so and your stupid that you can't understand that.

Todd N9OGL


Get it right idiot.
It's YOU'RE stupid as in you are stupid, not your stupid. The point is
toad, don't be stupid when you call others stupid you moron!


Dave Heil May 31st 05 09:56 PM

N9OGL wrote:
lying at his ass ??? How do I lie at my ass? Prove it! I've proved
all of your lies.
And for the last time idiot it's YOU'RE a stupid f*** not YOUR a stupid
f***.



I mean't to say your lying out your a## which you are....you getting on
here claiming I was interferning...


Simply priceless!

with a QSO in progress, you are a
F##KING LIAR, just like you buddy steve. YOU WANT ME PROVE IT, OK YOU
LITTLE F##KER, ALL MY HF ANTENNA'S ARE DOWN AND HAVE BEEN DOWN FOR THE
LAST TWO WEEKS, BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING A NEW ROOF ON OUR HOUSE...YOU
F##KING LYING A##HOLE. SO PROVE ME OTHERWISE B##CH.


So, in telling us that your "show" continues, you've been less than
truthful with us?

Dave K8MN


N9OGL May 31st 05 11:23 PM

LYING DICKHEAD!!!!!!!!!



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