Before Len nit picks...
 

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

I would wake up in Kentucky and go across the street to the PX in Tennessee.
You see, Len, the stae border ran right down the dividing line of the base.
I would do PT in Kentucky and and have a cold one at the end of the day in
Tennessee.

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Airborne!

Arf! Arf! wrote:
Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

I'm just a lowly ole Jarhead Airdale and I knew that...WITHOUT
having to point-and-click to find it!

I would wake up in Kentucky and go across the street to the PX in Tennessee.
You see, Len, the stae border ran right down the dividing line of the base.
I would do PT in Kentucky and and have a cold one at the end of the day in
Tennessee.

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Allow me to help, Arf.

Lennie has regaled us with his tales of Radioland Warheroness over
and over...

Lennie held MAINTENANCE MOS's for "microwave relay" systems in
the 1950's. He has tried to use that to impress us with how he
allegedly "operated HF radio without Morse Code" back in the day...The
problem is he NEVER held any operator MOS.

No doubt he keyed up the rig to help set SWR or pre-set channels
on ocssassion, but Lennie was no closer to being a "radio operator"
than "Barney" is to being a Tyrannasaurus Rex.

You missed his "1.2 million messages passed" song and dance. He
tried to pass off as his own accomplishment some phenominal numbers of
traffic passed...

Needless to say just about everyone landed on his head over the
numbers...THEN the story changed to "Well...I was part of a TEAM that
did it...".

Yeah...uh huh...right...

I can see HQMC peeing down their legs in hillarity if I tried to
get my record to reflect how I was "part of the team" of "my" old unit
in Viet Nam...Oh..Wait...I was still in High School when they did
that...Oh well..I'll tell 'em Lennie said it's OK!

His other NG faux pas, first "aired" about 4 years ago and repeated
here within the last week, has been his use of the sacrifices of the
lives of Soldiers who were KIA's to make him appear as though he was
somehow involved in their greater glory. That in and of itself is
about as disgusting and disgraceful as one (alleged) veteran can be
towards another.

You may have seen Jim Miccolis ream Lennie on the "Russian Bear"
threat and his 'sphinchter' post.

In one episode of buffoonery and grandstanding, Lennie went on to
tell us how he "lived under the threat of the Russian (Tu-95) Bear"
while he was in Japan. Well, any reasonably well informed aviation
historian knows that the bear entered service well AFTER Lennie had
rotated back to CONUS.

And his "sphinchter" post was a scathing damnation of another
poster who "didn't know what it was like to be under "incomming"
artillery fire", as if HE knew what it was like...Ask Jim to provide
you the link...It's yet another damning example of how this wonderputz
feels perfectly at liberty to TAKE liberties with military service.

And of course he can't help but ridicule anyone who "volunteers"
for ANYthing, and especially Civil Air Patrol and other military
programs...Oh, Lennie is ALL ABOUT dragging out his former military
service number like it was five white stars on a field of blue when it
suits him...

Of course he can't even get THOSE insults correct. You should have
seen his attempts to "call me" on CAP's inventory...airframes CAP
hasn't flown in 20 years!

And Lennie's scathing damnation of the "civilian defense" services
of WW2...Of course Lennie was a pre-pubescent adolescent in the midwest
during the war...But hey, let's not let details get in the way...

Lennie enlisted without waiting to be drafted. Good for him. He
managed to get out with a GCM. Bravo. No one can take that much away
from him...But his lies, deceit and liberties with other people's
sacrifices SINCE then make him a real piece of work.....

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

At least Brian Burke (I have to give him this due where it's
due...) did some forward-deployed time in Somalia. He and I both know
what incomming fire sounds like...!

Lennie's "incomming fire" was an M-80 rolled down the squadbay on
July 4th!

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Airborne!

OOOHRAH!

Thanks, Trooper!

73

Steve, K4YZ

Arf! Arf! wrote:

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question.

Hello Arf!,

Len does not answer most questions. He says they're "loaded",
even when it's clear they are not.

What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Now ya did it - he'll do a couple dozen kilobytes about ADA
*again*...

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air
with little to substantiate your claims.

Here, I'll sum it up for you:

"No matter what employment, education, experience or
government/military service a person has, if that person opposes Mr.
Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr. Anderson's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic/gender/racial slurs,
excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Airborne!

Gotta take some serious cajones to jump out of an aircraft that
is flying perfectly well. Double or triple that to do it in order to
engage hostile folks on the ground.

Here's a big "thank you" to you and all who have served our country,
Arf. Both in uniform and in other ways.

73 de Jim, N2EY

From: "Arf! Arf!" on Sat 28 May 2005 05:23

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

Does anyone care where an anony-mouse "saddles?" :-)

Anony-mousies have horsies? :-)

I would wake up in Kentucky and go across the street to the PX in Tennessee.
You see, Len, the stae border ran right down the dividing line of the base.
I would do PT in Kentucky and and have a cold one at the end of the day in
Tennessee.

Sounds like you had way too many "cold ones" in straddling the
"stae" line. Sober up and try again.

What has that to do with AMATEUR RADIO? You MUST follow your
Commander's (Gen. Chesty "stick time" Robeson, USMC) Order of
the Day: The only "airborne" talk is USMC helicopters. The
only amateur radio talk allowed by him is USMC MARS ops on
Okinawa.


Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Am I supposed to pop-to and immediately "answer a question" of
some anony-mouse? :-)

My primary MOS was 281.6, microwave radio relay operation and
maintenance supervisor, secondary MOSs as Fixed Station radio
operation and maintenance supervisor, carrier terminal
operation and maintenance, United States Army. A buddy in my
outfit, serving at the same station but on a different
operating team (we had four teams) is Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV.

You can see the details of where and how I served at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment

There are three documents there (second group on that web
page). The first one, "My Three Years with ADA", describes
it in more detail.

As to working as a civilian on DoD contracts, there's not much
available to show you, especially not to anony-mousies. Pick
Hughes Aircraft Co. Ground Systems, RCA Corporation, Teledyne
Electronics, and some others on up to 1989...just tell them
you are "Arf" the man you say you are and demand they TELL
you what I did in electronics engineer as a civilian. I'm sure
they will salute you smartly. With the middle finger.

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

I've got all sorts of documents, some already scanned to back
up MY claims "Arf-ass," and the United States government to
reference it all. Just go to the big Military Records center
(NARA) at St. Louis, MO, and demand to see my Army record.
They have a website and can even return information over the
Internet. Here, I'll even give you my ASN: RA 16 408 336.
Trouble is, YOU have to supply YOUR SSN on the Standard Form
for getting those details. The U.S. government doesn't accept
demands from anony-mousies. Expect another middle-finger
salute from them when you can't supply that. You deserve such.

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Tsk. You've seen too many military movies on TV.

Next time, do NOT forget the parachute as you just did...



ex-RA16408336, USA, 1952-1960, Signal Corps, Sgt (E-5)
HONORABLE Discharge

wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question.

Hello Arf!,

Bow wow.

Len does not answer most questions. He says they're "loaded",
even when it's clear they are not.

What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Now ya did it - he'll do a couple dozen kilobytes about ADA
*again*...

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air
with little to substantiate your claims.

Here, I'll sum it up for you:

"No matter what employment, education, experience or
government/military service a person has, if that person opposes Mr.
Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr. Anderson's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic/gender/racial slurs,
excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Airborne!

Gotta take some serious cajones to jump out of an aircraft that
is flying perfectly well.

I met up with a Ranger at Benning who apparently disagreed. I asked
him how he liked jumping, and he said he had no choice. I asked him
what he meant, and he told me that there was no such thing as a
perfectly good Air Force airplane. So I asked him if there was such a
thing as a perfectly good Army parachute.

Double or triple that to do it in order to
engage hostile folks on the ground.

Here's a big "thank you" to you and all who have served our country,
Arf. Both in uniform and in other ways.

What other ways?

wrote:
From: "Arf! Arf!" on Sat 28 May 2005 05:23

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

Does anyone care where an anony-mouse "saddles?" :-)

He agrees with Robeson. Anonymous is good when it agrees with Robeson.
Even Jim is making smacking lip noises at the anonymous.

Anony-mousies have horsies? :-)

Cavalry.

I would wake up in Kentucky and go across the street to the PX in Tennessee.
You see, Len, the stae border ran right down the dividing line of the base.
I would do PT in Kentucky and and have a cold one at the end of the day in
Tennessee.

Sounds like you had way too many "cold ones" in straddling the
"stae" line. Sober up and try again.

I think Tennessee doesn't tax military income. Wonder where he claims
his residence.

What has that to do with AMATEUR RADIO? You MUST follow your
Commander's (Gen. Chesty "stick time" Robeson, USMC) Order of
the Day: The only "airborne" talk is USMC helicopters. The
only amateur radio talk allowed by him is USMC MARS ops on
Okinawa.

And illegal stick time.

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Am I supposed to pop-to and immediately "answer a question" of
some anony-mouse? :-)

Aren't you?

My primary MOS was 281.6, microwave radio relay operation and
maintenance supervisor, secondary MOSs as Fixed Station radio
operation and maintenance supervisor, carrier terminal
operation and maintenance, United States Army. A buddy in my
outfit, serving at the same station but on a different
operating team (we had four teams) is Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV.

You can see the details of where and how I served at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment

There are three documents there (second group on that web
page). The first one, "My Three Years with ADA", describes
it in more detail.

As to working as a civilian on DoD contracts, there's not much
available to show you, especially not to anony-mousies. Pick
Hughes Aircraft Co. Ground Systems, RCA Corporation, Teledyne
Electronics, and some others on up to 1989...just tell them
you are "Arf" the man you say you are and demand they TELL
you what I did in electronics engineer as a civilian. I'm sure
they will salute you smartly. With the middle finger.

Bow wow.

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

I've got all sorts of documents, some already scanned to back
up MY claims "Arf-ass," and the United States government to
reference it all. Just go to the big Military Records center
(NARA) at St. Louis, MO, and demand to see my Army record.
They have a website and can even return information over the
Internet. Here, I'll even give you my ASN: RA 16 408 336.
Trouble is, YOU have to supply YOUR SSN on the Standard Form
for getting those details. The U.S. government doesn't accept
demands from anony-mousies. Expect another middle-finger
salute from them when you can't supply that. You deserve such.

Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Tsk. You've seen too many military movies on TV.

Wild Geese.

Next time, do NOT forget the parachute as you just did...



ex-RA16408336, USA, 1952-1960, Signal Corps, Sgt (E-5)
HONORABLE Discharge

wrote:
From: "Arf! Arf!" on Sat 28 May 2005 05:23

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

Does anyone care where an anony-mouse "saddles?"

Ft Campbell is anonymous?

A stealth Army base?

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Am I supposed to pop-to and immediately "answer a question" of
some anony-mouse?

You won't answer questions from those of us who are NOT
anonymous...so why not...?!?!

My primary MOS was 281.6, microwave radio relay operation and
maintenance supervisor, secondary MOSs as Fixed Station radio
operation and maintenance supervisor, carrier terminal
operation and maintenance, United States Army. A buddy in my
outfit, serving at the same station but on a different
operating team (we had four teams) is Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV.

Neither of which served in combat, and never any closer to a
combat zone that the front pages of Stars and Stripes.

As to working as a civilian on DoD contracts, there's not much
available to show you, especially not to anony-mousies. Pick
Hughes Aircraft Co. Ground Systems, RCA Corporation, Teledyne
Electronics, and some others on up to 1989...just tell them
you are "Arf" the man you say you are and demand they TELL
you what I did in electronics engineer as a civilian. I'm sure
they will salute you smartly. With the middle finger.

Lennie and his middle finger.

Arf, let me tell you about Lennie and at least ONE of his places of
"employment"...It wasn't so rosey as he makes out....

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

I've got all sorts of documents, some already scanned to back
up MY claims "Arf-ass," and the United States government to
reference it all. Just go to the big Military Records center
(NARA) at St. Louis, MO, and demand to see my Army record.
They have a website and can even return information over the
Internet. Here, I'll even give you my ASN: RA 16 408 336.
Trouble is, YOU have to supply YOUR SSN on the Standard Form
for getting those details. The U.S. government doesn't accept
demands from anony-mousies. Expect another middle-finger
salute from them when you can't supply that. You deserve such.

The "middle finger salute" again, eh Lennie...Whew...

Arf, Lennie served. We give him that.

The problem stems from his efforts to validate his "Newsgroup
Combat Award"...He's made several (one within the last few days...)
where he's tried to associate his "combat" inn this newsgroup with the
REAL combat that killed several soldiers in a unit that he subsequently
belonged to.

Of course they died three years before he was even inducted into
the Army...Pretty disgusting behaviour for a guy who claims to "honor"
war dead.

ex-RA16408336, USA, 1952-1960, Signal Corps, Sgt (E-5)
HONORABLE Discharge

Honorable discharge...DIShonorable behaviour ever since...

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "Arf! Arf!" on Sat 28 May 2005 05:23

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

Does anyone care where an anony-mouse "saddles?"

Ft Campbell is anonymous?

A stealth Army base?

What's the problem with the location of Ft. Campbell?

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Am I supposed to pop-to and immediately "answer a question" of
some anony-mouse?

You won't answer questions from those of us who are NOT
anonymous...so why not...?!?!

Got papers?

My primary MOS was 281.6, microwave radio relay operation and
maintenance supervisor, secondary MOSs as Fixed Station radio
operation and maintenance supervisor, carrier terminal
operation and maintenance, United States Army. A buddy in my
outfit, serving at the same station but on a different
operating team (we had four teams) is Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV.

Neither of which served in combat, and never any closer to a
combat zone that the front pages of Stars and Stripes.

Never saw you in the pacific stars and stripes.

As to working as a civilian on DoD contracts, there's not much
available to show you, especially not to anony-mousies. Pick
Hughes Aircraft Co. Ground Systems, RCA Corporation, Teledyne
Electronics, and some others on up to 1989...just tell them
you are "Arf" the man you say you are and demand they TELL
you what I did in electronics engineer as a civilian. I'm sure
they will salute you smartly. With the middle finger.

Lennie and his middle finger.

Arf, let me tell you about Lennie and at least ONE of his places of
"employment"...It wasn't so rosey as he makes out....

Interesting how you suck up to an anonymous when he/she might agree
with you.

It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air with little to
substantiate your claims.

I've got all sorts of documents, some already scanned to back
up MY claims "Arf-ass," and the United States government to
reference it all. Just go to the big Military Records center
(NARA) at St. Louis, MO, and demand to see my Army record.
They have a website and can even return information over the
Internet. Here, I'll even give you my ASN: RA 16 408 336.
Trouble is, YOU have to supply YOUR SSN on the Standard Form
for getting those details. The U.S. government doesn't accept
demands from anony-mousies. Expect another middle-finger
salute from them when you can't supply that. You deserve such.

The "middle finger salute" again, eh Lennie...Whew...

I can't think of a more deserving tribute to you.

Arf, Lennie served. We give him that.

As if it were yours to grant.

The problem stems from his efforts to validate his "Newsgroup
Combat Award"...He's made several (one within the last few days...)

several what?

where he's tried to associate his "combat" inn this newsgroup with the
REAL combat that killed several soldiers in a unit that he subsequently
belonged to.

I suppose all of your seven hostile actions were with non-combat units?

Of course they died three years before he was even inducted into
the Army...Pretty disgusting behaviour for a guy who claims to "honor"
war dead.

Nobody in the U.S. Marine Corps died before you were inducted?

ex-RA16408336, USA, 1952-1960, Signal Corps, Sgt (E-5)
HONORABLE Discharge

Honorable discharge...DIShonorable behaviour ever since...

Steve, K4YZ

Seven hosed-up claims.

wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question.

Hello Arf!,

Bow wow.

Brian, Pastor Miccolis ASSUMES this anony-mouse ("Arf! Arf!")
is legitimate...because he (in anonymity) attacks me. That
is all part of the PCTA Extra Double Standard hypocrisy.

The Pastor does give lip-service to all the PC phrases AS IF
he "had been there, done that" when his real purpose is to
level a personal attack on his newsgroup "opponents."

That is followed by:

Len does not answer most questions. He says they're "loaded",
even when it's clear they are not.

"It is clear they are not" is one of the most hypocritical
of the Pastor's statements. Jimmie LOADS questions in order
to elicit a response he can then attack them as "mistaken."


What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Now ya did it - he'll do a couple dozen kilobytes about ADA
*again*...

Poor Jimmie. NEVER was in the military, NEVER worked any
professional communications, NEVER did much except play with
his "homebuilt" hobby radios. But, Jimmie will idolize and
rhapsodize on the pioneers of radio doing their thing before
Jimmie's existance...so much so that he makes them into
"heroes" and near-mythological figures.


It seems that you and bb have a fair share of hot air
with little to substantiate your claims.

Here, I'll sum it up for you:

"No matter what employment, education, experience or
government/military service a person has, if that person opposes Mr.
Anderson's views, he/she will be the target of Mr. Anderson's insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic/gender/racial slurs,
excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."

All of that to summarize poor Jimmie NOT being able to take
the heat of discussion ON subjects. He MUST go into a
Personal Attack mode to "defend himself." His ego (his most
sacred cow) was severely injured and he seeks retribution.
He is still wearing bandages over his goring of several years
back...


Stand up. Hook up. Stand in the door.

Airborne!

Gotta take some serious cajones to jump out of an aircraft that
is flying perfectly well.

Gotta take some serious "cajones" to ENLIST voluntarily...or
even accept a draft notice (which Jimmie never did).

Jimmie "knows" all about parachute jumping in the military.

Jimmie must think that "cajones" is acceptible but "balls" is
not acceptible when both words are useable in the same
context. He can be very prim, proper, and oh-so-"civil" by
using a Spanish colloquialism in regards to Manly Courage.


I met up with a Ranger at Benning who apparently disagreed. I asked
him how he liked jumping, and he said he had no choice. I asked him
what he meant, and he told me that there was no such thing as a
perfectly good Air Force airplane. So I asked him if there was such a
thing as a perfectly good Army parachute.

Heh heh heh. Cross fingers and hope all the QC people did
their thing properly...on airplanes as well as parachutes.

Double or triple that to do it in order to
engage hostile folks on the ground.

Jimmie must think that anyone against HIS opinions in here are
"hostiles." Anyone acting against HIS opinions is not considered
"patriotic." :-)


Here's a big "thank you" to you and all who have served our country,
Arf. Both in uniform and in other ways.

What other ways?

According to Jimmie's general outlook, those "other ways" must be
to Support and Defend the Constitution of the ARRL and preserve
the morse code test for amateur radio license examinations
(against all oppressors). Very Patriotic. Very Memorable.
Because:

"No matter what employment, education, experience or
government/military service a person has, if that person opposes Mr.
Miccolis' views, he/she will be the target of Mr. Miccolis' insults,
ridicule, name-calling, factual errors, ethnic/gender/racial slurs,
excessive emoticons and general infantile behavior."


[see how easy that was? :-) ]

From: "bb" on Sun 29 May 2005 06:20


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "Arf! Arf!" on Sat 28 May 2005 05:23

Len, lest you nit pick about the location of Fort Campbell, let me explain.
Yes, I was for sure at Ft. Campbell in Kentucky. The base saddles the state
line between Kentucky and Tennessee.

Does anyone care where an anony-mouse "saddles?"

Ft Campbell is anonymous?

A stealth Army base?

What's the problem with the location of Ft. Campbell?

Irrelevant. I've never even commented anywhere on the location
of Fort Campbell. :-)

But, the Avenging Angle of Dearth, ever vigilant to defend the
United Stevies of America (against all oppressors) simply took
something out of context in order to Personally Attack me once
again.

Gen Chesty "Stick Time" Robeson seems to suffer vision losses
both on his own writing ant that of others. [too much Viagra
intake resulting in loss of vision?] The anony-mouse wrote
"...base saddles the state line..." when the word "saddle"
should have been "STRADDLES." :-)


Of course you chairborne types would not know this.

And Len, you have not answered my question. What was your MOS and what did
you do in the service of our country?

Am I supposed to pop-to and immediately "answer a question" of
some anony-mouse?

You won't answer questions from those of us who are NOT
anonymous...so why not...?!?!

Got papers?

The only "papers" Stebie has are the morning ones (printed on
newsprint) and probably filched from a neighbor's driveway.


My primary MOS was 281.6, microwave radio relay operation and
maintenance supervisor, secondary MOSs as Fixed Station radio
operation and maintenance supervisor, carrier terminal
operation and maintenance, United States Army. A buddy in my
outfit, serving at the same station but on a different
operating team (we had four teams) is Gene Rosenbaum, N2JTV.

Neither of which served in combat, and never any closer to a
combat zone that the front pages of Stars and Stripes.

Never saw you in the pacific stars and stripes.

Try the Sunday editions' Beetle Bailey cartoon strip and
picture the First Sergeant as "Seven Hostile Actions" Stebie.

That takes some imagination since the comic strip version has
at least one tooth. [we don't see any teeth showing in Stebie's
pictures]

As to working as a civilian on DoD contracts, there's not much
available to show you, especially not to anony-mousies. Pick
Hughes Aircraft Co. Ground Systems, RCA Corporation, Teledyne
Electronics, and some others on up to 1989...just tell them
you are "Arf" the man you say you are and demand they TELL
you what I did in electronics engineer as a civilian. I'm sure
they will salute you smartly. With the middle finger.

Lennie and his middle finger.

Arf, let me tell you about Lennie and at least ONE of his places of
"employment"...It wasn't so rosey as he makes out....

Interesting how you suck up to an anonymous when he/she might agree
with you.

The Avenging Angle of Dearth is going to redraw his hyperbole of
the (unamed) "PhD" at (the former) NADC in PA who supposedly
"critiqued" my "job performance" while "working for the Navy"
in 1971. :-) A very big pile of Stebie BULL****, not even
good for fertilizing anything but Stebie's anger and hatred.



The "middle finger salute" again, eh Lennie...Whew...

I can't think of a more deserving tribute to you.

Arf, Lennie served. We give him that.

As if it were yours to grant.

AS IF this anony-mouse ("Arf! Arf!") ACTUALLY SERVED.

We readers don't have any PROOF of the anony-mousie's
IDENTITY, let alone if this babbler actually served.

But, that is all part of the PCTA Extra Double Standard.
Looking back a few months on Google archives will show
Stebie (The Last Action Hero) becoming incensed, enraged
at OTHER anony-mousies who were "not kind" to Stebie.
Tsk, tsk. Stebie is on-record as having directly insulted
their person with words like "coward."

Stebie is just a duplicious hypocrite, "serving" the
United Stebies of America, one nation invisible,
populated by many imaginative alter egos.

The problem stems from his efforts to validate his "Newsgroup
Combat Award"...He's made several (one within the last few days...)

several what?

Stebie cannot comprehend what was written. Nineteen members of
the 71st Signal Service Battalion, 8235th AU, United States Army,
were killed in a transport plane crash in SOUTH Korea on 1 Jul 50.
Not in "combat." Those were ordered there by General MacArthur
to reinforce communications in SOUTH Korea as a result of invading
forces from NORTH Korea. Three USAF air crew were also killed.
The main billet of the 71st and also offices of the Army Central
Command (Honshu) was named "Hardy Barracks" in 1952 in honor of
Cpl Elmer Hardy, one of the 19 who perished on 1 Jul 50. The new
transmitter site of Army station ADA (and barracks of B Co.) at
Kashiwa, Japan, was named "Camp Tomlinson" in honor of Captain
Jim Tomlinson, another of the 19 crash victims.

I was assigned to the 71st Signal Service Battalion, 8235th AU,
in February, 1953. Stebie, once again in his angry hatred,
wants to twist that into "cowardice" and "disgrace" and
"dishonor" on my part because I display a sense of pride in
what MY unit did...and continued to do long afterwards. Three
members of the 8235th AU (then renamed Far East Command Signal
Service Battalion) would die in three separate actions while
on TDY (Temporary Duty assignment) in Korea...AFTER the "Truce"
had begun in July, 1953. That "Truce" continues to this day,
the Korean War is NOT OVER. From time to time, armed skirmishes
happen along the Demilitarized Zone, combat on a small scale.

Stebie's "validation" of HIS "combat" is a very UN-detailed,
Ambiguous mention of "participation in seven hostile actions."
The WHEN and WHERE of those "seven hostile actions" has NOT
been stated. Stebie REFUSES to state the WHEN and WHERE.

One can only assume that Stebie is just a damn LIAR, bluffing
in an effort to be more "manly, macho" in his mumblings about
his own "combat experiences."

where he's tried to associate his "combat" inn this newsgroup with the
REAL combat that killed several soldiers in a unit that he subsequently
belonged to.

I suppose all of your seven hostile actions were with non-combat units?

Stebie can't even state the WHEN and WHERE of his "seven hostile
actions." He postures as a Mighty Warrior yet cannot say, other
than his "battles" in here, WHERE he "fought."

Of course they died three years before he was even inducted into
the Army...Pretty disgusting behaviour for a guy who claims to "honor"
war dead.

Nobody in the U.S. Marine Corps died before you were inducted?

Absolutely NONE before his induction...they must "live forever"
according to Stebie..."in his heart."

It would be interesting to see the Last Action Hero spout off
about "dishonor" at any Retreat Ceremony, a Funeral of a non-
marine, any Memorial Day gathering to honor the fallen. It would
be a given that this Last Action Hero (of "seven hostile actions")
would not survive that day...nor would anyone around him be
arrested by REAL authorities. We would then see that this
great "patriot" (of the United Stevies of America) was nothing
more than a bluffing bully, tosser of ****, big loudmouth, and
a representative of modern-day U.S. Amateur Radio behavior.

A problem is that the bluffing bully, big loudmouth, tosser
of ****, and lying story-teller just hasn't let up. He keeps
on LYING, manufacturing things about others that never
happened to them, manufacturing glory about himself that he
cannot PROVE.

Is that what the HOBBY of U.S. amateur radio has become?

I hope not...yet the evidence appears almost daily in here.



ex-RA16408336, USA, 1952-1960, Signal Corps, Sgt (E-5)
HONORABLE Discharge

Did you ever "accept a draft notice", Len?

Jimmie "knows" all about parachute jumping in the military.

I don't claim to know all about it. Just some things.

You ever do any parachute jumps, Len?


Give disgruntled Len a two hour course during Jump Week at Benning, duct
tape his Relys to his hips and let him fly.
I guarantee you that by the time old Lennie hits the silk he will have more
than filled his Relys and will be well on his way to filling his reserve
Rely.

By the time he lands he will have done Double Doodie.

wrote:
wrote:

Brian, Pastor Miccolis ASSUMES this anony-mouse ("Arf! Arf!")
is legitimate...because he (in anonymity) attacks me.

No, Len, that's not true.

I "assume "Arf! Arf!" is legitimate because there's no evidence
that he isn't.

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

So what's the difference?

As well he did the infamous "MegHz".

How will Lennie slime out from underneath THESE "double
standards"...???

Watch and see!

Steve, K4YZ

wrote:
wrote:

Jimmie "knows" all about parachute jumping in the military.

I don't claim to know all about it. Just some things.

You ever do any parachute jumps, Len?

He must...

He's the "big jerk" at the end of the opening shock.

Steve, K4YZ

Gotta take some serious "cajones" to ENLIST voluntarily...or
even accept a draft notice (which Jimmie never did).

Did you ever "accept a draft notice", Len?

Couldn't. Was already IN the U.S. Army. The Army Serial
Number I was given had the prefix "RA" on it...that denoted
a VOLUNTARY ENLISTMENT. Those who got draft notices and
went in that way got the "US" prefix.

What was YOUR prefix, Jimmie?

Oh, that's right, I almost forgot that the Army switched
from ASNs to the Social Security Number in 1969. Tsk, tsk,
YOU could NEVER have an ASN!

Jimmie "knows" all about parachute jumping in the military.

I don't claim to know all about it. Just some things.

You are way too modest. You've read about so many things.

You ever do any parachute jumps, Len?

One.

For personal experience. Wasn't a requirement in radio.

Maybe it's a new requirement in AMATEUR radio now? [I must
check with the FCC more often...they "revise the amateur
regulations so often" and everyone knows (in here) that
amateur radio is "a vital important service to the nation"
as I've been told by others]

No, parachute jumping is NOT a requirement for amateur
radio. Last change to U.S. amateur radio regulations was
in 2002...something about amateur antennas...

How many Jumps have YOU made, Jimmie? [other than through
those hoops]

Does everyone have to Jump when you command, Jimmie?

wrote:
Gotta take some serious "cajones" to ENLIST voluntarily...or
even accept a draft notice (which Jimmie never did).

Did you ever "accept a draft notice", Len?

Couldn't. Was already IN the U.S. Army. The Army Serial
Number I was given had the prefix "RA" on it...that denoted
a VOLUNTARY ENLISTMENT. Those who got draft notices and
went in that way got the "US" prefix.

What was YOUR prefix, Jimmie?

Oh, that's right, I almost forgot that the Army switched
from ASNs to the Social Security Number in 1969. Tsk, tsk,
YOU could NEVER have an ASN!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...More LennieDoubleStandard going on
here...Lennie LOVES to chastise Amateurs over alleged "I've got mine
but you'll never have it" claims...

Yet THERE HE IS doing it point blank himself...

Jimmie "knows" all about parachute jumping in the military.

I don't claim to know all about it. Just some things.

You are way too modest. You've read about so many things.

As have YOU, Lennie...

For example you've read a lot about Amateur Radio.

You've never DONE Amateur radio...but you've read about it.

You ever do any parachute jumps, Len?

One.

I told you guys...

He was the "big jerk" at the end of the opening shock.

For personal experience. Wasn't a requirement in radio.

Uh huh...yeah...right...OK...sure...(yeeeeeeeeeaaawn)

Maybe it's a new requirement in AMATEUR radio now? [I must
check with the FCC more often...they "revise the amateur
regulations so often" and everyone knows (in here) that
amateur radio is "a vital important service to the nation"
as I've been told by others]

As we have ALL been told by several federal agencies and private
benevolent organizations that make that claim, Lennie...

Are you now calling those agencies liars too?

No, parachute jumping is NOT a requirement for amateur
radio. Last change to U.S. amateur radio regulations was
in 2002...something about amateur antennas...

How many Jumps have YOU made, Jimmie? [other than through
those hoops]

Does everyone have to Jump when you command, Jimmie?



Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

73, Leo

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

And why should "Arf! Arf!" be treated any differently?

73 de Jim, N2EY

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

73, Leo

It's Steve that gets Quitebothered by anonymous posters.

Oh, correction. ...by anonymous posters that don'tQuiteagreewithhim.

On 31 May 2005 15:37:45 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

And why should "Arf! Arf!" be treated any differently?

Perhaps you could enlighten us on that, Jim......as I recall, you
yourself argued the other side of this point back in November, when I
was not agreeing with you (back in the 'Near Space Science'
thread).....your exact words we

Didn't get past me. Leo sez he's a VE3. But no call, no last name, no
positive
ID, no website, no outside confirmation. Maybe he is, maybe he ain't.

Hmmm - let's see here....I wasn't agreeing with you, so perhaps I am
not legitimate. Yet here you make a case for Arf! Arf!'s existance
because he does agree with you.

That's a puzzle, alright - wish I could help you answer it! :)

73, Leo

From: Leo on Tues 31 May 2005 15:02

On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

Nice to see you again, Leo! Of course, you have to realize
definitions in here are tangential to the Real World.

If you are FOR morse code testing by administrations, you are
"legitimate."

If you are against morse code testing then you are "illegitimate,"
"in error," "mistaken," "are a lying penis-head" and have
underarm odor.

Meanwhile, the anony-mousies may have gone back to their spam
letters of being some kind of "financial officer" of some
African country seeking "additional funds" to "get back"
millions in "held monies" and will freely "share some of that
"held money" if you cross their e-palms with more money. :-)

[anyone can be anything in this medium...and many are! :-)]

I'm not at all sure of what some of the cross-dressing anony-
mousies are in here. They may have been tossed off some porn
sites catering to "amateurs" and are confused as to content in
here... :-)

From: "K4YZ" on Tues 31 May 2005 14:23

Putz.


...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder as a solitary
figure in a patch-adorned flight suit slowly paces out his lonely
path of anger, J-38 in one hand, bayonetted USMC soldering iron
in the other. Pre-recorded marine marches softly fill the air,
interspersed with dits and dahs of a few PCTA morsebirds not yet
extinct. The Tomb of the Unknown Solder is a lonely place, deep
in the valley of neuroses, anger, and frustration. The single
sentinel counts cadennce to himself, muttering "flux you, flux
you" between the slow steps. His fists are clenched, eager to do
bottle but only sipping a cup of unkindness. It is sad but the
sentinel at the Tomb of the Unknown Solder keeps going. He does
not know why and that is the tragedy. The sun slowly sets on the
Tomb of the Unknown Solder leaving only the red light of fire in
the eyes of the muttering sentinel. Those glow in the dark like
LED pilot lights. Hatred lives on in his twilight of despair.

Temper fry.

wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Tues 31 May 2005 14:23

Putz.


...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder...(SNIP)

Again with the misuse of the Tomb of the Unknowns.

Yes, I saw the "Solder", but it's still inappropriate.

I guess the Tomb takes on a different meaning for those of us who
actually SERVED with others while IN combat. Monuments to American war
dead take on a different meaning when you actually KNOW men who died
and where there when it happened...not just read about it in a report
somewhere.

But you go right on ahead expressing your "free speech" and your
"right" to parody such things...and I'll go on calling you for what I
think you are for doing it...

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

wrote

...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder

Tasteless and revolting, stark dishonor to the real "Unknowns".

de Hans, K0HB

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


wrote:
From: "K4YZ" on Tues 31 May 2005 14:23

Putz.


...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder...(SNIP)

Again with the misuse of the Tomb of the Unknowns.

Yes, I saw the "Solder", but it's still inappropriate.

I guess the Tomb takes on a different meaning for those of us who
actually SERVED with others while IN combat. Monuments to American war
dead take on a different meaning when you actually KNOW men who died
and where there when it happened...not just read about it in a report
somewhere.

But you go right on ahead expressing your "free speech" and your
"right" to parody such things...and I'll go on calling you for what I
think you are for doing it...

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ


Your right about that Steve...it makes a hell of a difference.

Dan/W4NTI

"KØHB" wrote in message
k.net...

wrote

...the sun sets on the Tomb of the Unknown Solder

Tasteless and revolting, stark dishonor to the real "Unknowns".

de Hans, K0HB




It just shows he is full of BS. Has no concept of what he speaks, just is
here harass and trash those that have real experience and hands on
knowledge. In other words a bull**** artist.

In Nam we called them REMF. And to help you out loser Lennie....that is
Rear Echelon Mother F...... you fill in the blank.

Dan/W4NTI

On 31 May 2005 17:04:05 -0700, wrote:

From: Leo on Tues 31 May 2005 15:02

On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

Nice to see you again, Leo! Of course, you have to realize
definitions in here are tangential to the Real World.

Agreed - a parallel dimension, of sorts.... :)


If you are FOR morse code testing by administrations, you are
"legitimate."

If you are against morse code testing then you are "illegitimate,"
"in error," "mistaken," "are a lying penis-head" and have
underarm odor.

Heh! or worse..... :)


Meanwhile, the anony-mousies may have gone back to their spam
letters of being some kind of "financial officer" of some
African country seeking "additional funds" to "get back"
millions in "held monies" and will freely "share some of that
"held money" if you cross their e-palms with more money. :-)

[anyone can be anything in this medium...and many are! :-)]

I'm not at all sure of what some of the cross-dressing anony-
mousies are in here. They may have been tossed off some porn
sites catering to "amateurs" and are confused as to content in
here... :-)

Wherever they came from, they've sure been wreaking havoc in here
lately! Seems to have quieted down a bit in the last few weeks,
though.





73, Leo

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 15:37:45 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo"
appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered
him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

And why should "Arf! Arf!" be treated any differently?

Perhaps you could enlighten us on that, Jim......

OK

as I recall, you
yourself argued the other side of this point back in
November, when I
was not agreeing with you (back in the 'Near Space Science'
thread).....your exact words we

Didn't get past me. Leo sez he's a VE3. But no call, no last
name, no positive
ID, no website, no outside confirmation. Maybe he is, maybe
he ain't.

What part of that is not accurate, Leo? Maybe you are who you
say you are, and maybe you aren't. Maybe "Arf!" is who he says
he is - or maybe he ain't.

Hmmm - let's see here....I wasn't agreeing with you, so perhaps I am not legitimate.

Not at all. Your lack of verifiable ID means there's room for
doubt. Same for "Arf" or any other anonymous poster.

Yet here you make a case for Arf! Arf!'s existance
because he does agree with you.

There's as much reason to doubt his claims as there is to doubt
yours, Leo. And as little!

Please note that Len insists on calling "Arf!" names and comparing
him to Nigerian bank scammers, but does not do the same for
those who agree with him.

In addition, Len has posted here under a variety of screen names
(like "averyfine" and "averyfineman") often without any real ID.

If you want to remain anonymous, that's fine with me.

73 de Jim, N2EY

From: Leo on Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:27:59 -0400

On 31 May 2005 17:04:05 -0700, wrote:
From: Leo on Tues 31 May 2005 15:02
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

Nice to see you again, Leo! Of course, you have to realize
definitions in here are tangential to the Real World.

Agreed - a parallel dimension, of sorts.... :)

Several years ago I compared some of the attitudes in here
to old "Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits" TV shows. Must
have their antennae out too far from their scalps... :-)

If you are FOR morse code testing by administrations, you are
"legitimate."

If you are against morse code testing then you are "illegitimate,"
"in error," "mistaken," "are a lying penis-head" and have
underarm odor.

Heh! or worse..... :)

Tsk, ain't it awful? :-)

Poor Jimmie is all upset by "my name-calling." He is sorely
wounded. I've called him names like James, Jimmy, Jimmie
and he is all a-twitter over those "insults." Tsk, tsk,
he must have thought those are equivalent to "gutless lying
coward", a term used often by another PCTA Extra in
addition to "PUTZ." Maybe I'll just refer to James as
"Your Exhalted Highness" and he will immediately understand
that it does mean His High (and Mighty) Holiness! :-)

Yup, yup, there's a very REAL PCTA Double Standard in here.

These "radio experts" (all through an ability at rapid
morse code) seem to have NO experience with the new
lead-free "solder" which is starting to give electronics
production lines some very real problems with tin dendrites
or "whiskers." [dendrites form out of lead-free solder long
after assembly and can grow to short out traces on PCBs]
Apparently not one of the morsemen (might and macho though
they may be) KNOW about this as part of RoHS.

So, a master super chief calls a play on words nasty things.
TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDER is a many-level little diatribe.
First, on this lead-free solder according to RoHS rules.
Second, on our beloved "critic" and self-appointed, self-
styled Raddio Kopp - the Avenging Angle of Dearth. Third,
on all the emotion-only image dwellers who get too
overwrought by "approved" stylized patriotic phrases and
Want To KILL (or otherwise do nasty to) all those who do
not knee-jerk to THEIR "approved" patriotism.

Actually, those in the third group are hypocrites, taking
advantage of the medium to be much more than they really
are. Their "patriotism" is primarily for themselves, as
they can "be all that they (wish to) be" in a terrible
parody-travesty of the U.S. Army recruiting phrase.

On entering the U.S. military, recruits are sworn in and
promise to "defend the Constitution of the United States."
Too many in here have substituted ARRL for the United
States. Defending the Constitution of the ARRL (probably
with their lives, if needs be) is NOT national patriotism,
no matter how they rage.


[anyone can be anything in this medium...and many are! :-)]

I'm not at all sure of what some of the cross-dressing anony-
mousies are in here. They may have been tossed off some porn
sites catering to "amateurs" and are confused as to content in
here... :-)

Wherever they came from, they've sure been wreaking havoc in here
lately! Seems to have quieted down a bit in the last few weeks,
though.

Ask "Quitefine," the nom de pheume of James Miccolis.

"Pheume" is an aliteration, another play on words, a
mixture of 'plume' and 'fume' and 'phew.' :-)

Screum.

wrote:

So, a master super chief calls a play on words nasty things.
TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDER is a many-level little diatribe.

A disgraceful parody is a disgraceful parody.

Period.

You dishonor their sacrifice...

But then it's not the first time you've done it...And highly
unlikely that it will be the last.

Actually, those in the third group are hypocrites, taking
advantage of the medium to be much more than they really
are. Their "patriotism" is primarily for themselves, as
they can "be all that they (wish to) be" in a terrible
parody-travesty of the U.S. Army recruiting phrase.

No...MY Patrotism is for the United States, and those who died
in it's defense.

YOUR "patriotism" is about what suits Lennie at that particular
moment.

And it's very ironic to see YOU suuggesting "hypocr(acy)" of
others, Lennie...You wear it like a crown.

On entering the U.S. military, recruits are sworn in and
promise to "defend the Constitution of the United States."

And there are those who think that having served the Constitution
means they should be allowed to abuse it. Like you.

Too many in here have substituted ARRL for the United
States. Defending the Constitution of the ARRL (probably
with their lives, if needs be) is NOT national patriotism,
no matter how they rage.

Only YOU make that suggestion.

Because YOU are a liar. Documented. Archived.



Steve, K4YZ

wrote

TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDER is a many-level little diatribe.

No, it's not a diatribe, Len; it's an insult to the "Tomb of the Unknown".

It was an ill-considered attempt to make a cutesy
7th-grade-clever-play-on-words, and it dishonors the national shrine which it
attempts to use in parody. That you now try to rationalize your gaffe as just
another episode in the ongoing Len-vs-Steve snit-contest speaks volumes.

de Hans, K0HB

From: K0HB on Jun 2, 9:28 am

wrote

TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDER is a many-level little diatribe.


No, it's not a diatribe, Len; it's an insult to the "Tomb of the Unknown".

Kiss my yes, Hans.

You've had a week to run off at the mouth on that repeated
bit of text...except your newsgroup ox was gored by Kim's
message. You are rather the high-strung "I'm in charge here"
person whenever someone comes up with ANY story "opposite"
your own cut-and-pastes from OTHER authors.

It was an ill-considered attempt to make a cutesy
7th-grade-clever-play-on-words?, and it dishonors the national shrine which it
attempts to use in parody.

Pizz off, master super jeffe. You are NOT Chief of the Boat here.

That you now try to rationalize your gaffe as just
another episode in the ongoing Len-vs-Steve snit-contest speaks volumes.

Awwww...your newsgroup ox that got gored is still in pain?

I didn't see where you objected to that emotionally-unstable
good-buddy Extra's comments on "PUTZ" or "gutless coward" and
other Personal Insults about "dishonor" of men in my military
unit. Ah, but that's "okay" because Stebie da Wunder Marine
and this newsgroup's counterpart to Elfren Saldivar, is an
Amateur Extra!

PCTA Extra Double Standard flies again...above the flag of
our (at least MY) country.

Come to think of it, master super jeffe, I didn't see YOU at
the big federal cemetary on Monday. I was there as were
hundreds of others, honoring the souls of military veterans.
Too bad. A nice day. We could honor veterans with simple
prayers and ceremonies, and we did.

Now, great big "patriotic" master super el jefe, I'm going to
use my little bit of text anywhichway I want and still it
won't "dishonor" any members of my old military unit or the
entire United States Army. Feel free to contact the
Attorney General of the United States and have me arrested on
federal grounds of Treason and/or Sedition if that so ill
suits your pristine salt-sea-washed self. Call the
Department of Homeland Security if that suits you...and be
sure to say a citizen of the United States of America, a
veteran of the United States Army (Honorable), is "dishonoring"
YOUR IDEA of what "patriotism" is supposed to be.

Oh, yes, and above all, NEVER let ANYONE post any story in
here RIGHT AFTER YOU DID. Nobody but nobody can try to
trump YOUR "literary efforts" of cutting-and-pasting OTHER
people's textual works! Those folks "dishonor" your
patriotism, don't they? :-(

Oh, and polish up that ham shield. There's a spot of dirt
on it and that detracts from the blinding light of "federal
authority" it's supposed to have whenever you yank it out
of your pocket prior to "arresting a suspect."

You're out of the closet and into the ranks of the PCTA
Extra Double Standard bearers. Keep your little clubhouse
CLOSED from the "evil" influences of those "unpatriotic"
no-coders!


RA16408336, USA, Honorable and still Honoring the REAL vets

On 1 Jun 2005 15:39:42 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 15:37:45 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

snip

If you want to remain anonymous, that's fine with me.

73 de Jim, N2EY

With all due respect, Sir, I do not feel obligated in the least to
seek or accept your permission to do so.

73, Leo

On 1 Jun 2005 15:39:42 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 15:37:45 -0700, wrote:

Leo wrote:
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

snip

What part of that is not accurate, Leo? Maybe you are who you
say you are, and maybe you aren't. Maybe "Arf!" is who he says
he is - or maybe he ain't.

Perhaps!


Hmmm - let's see here....I wasn't agreeing with you, so perhaps I am not legitimate.

Not at all. Your lack of verifiable ID means there's room for
doubt. Same for "Arf" or any other anonymous poster.

You seem to place a great deal of value on 'verifiability', Jim.

Heh. Just because someone's callbook ID is verifiable doesn't mean
that much else is. Take you, for example - other than what's in the
QRZ database, how much do we know about you? Just what you have
stated in your posts - that's all. Is what you say true ? Maybe -
maybe not. Unless someone is willing to put in the effort, time and
expense to research an individual's claims, they can be neither proven
nor disproven.

I suggest that, in a public forum such as this, an individual's
behaviour is a far better indicator of who they are than something as
silly as a callbook listing. Forget claims of education, heroic feats
and braggodocio - just read what the individual writes, and you'll see
the real person shine through. (for example, what were you doing when
you questioned my 'legitimacy' in this thread, Jim - picking yet
another fight with Len? Hmmm - that happens a lot, doesn't it??)

Whether "Arf!" or anyone else here is 'legitimate' or not is quite
immaterial! Why people are here, and how they behave while in here,
is of much greater importance.

And, of course, whether you believe that another poster is
'legitimate' or not is of no importance at all.


Yet here you make a case for Arf! Arf!'s existance
because he does agree with you.

There's as much reason to doubt his claims as there is to doubt
yours, Leo. And as little!

Please note that Len insists on calling "Arf!" names and comparing
him to Nigerian bank scammers, but does not do the same for
those who agree with him.

Not necessarily. I have not always agreed with Len's points either -
nor he with mine - neither do I belittle his (considerable)
accomplishments and experience or deliberately pick fights with him to
bolster my own ego. (ahem).

Maybe that's why civil discourse is possible between us? Duh.....

Some on the group seem to have a pathological need to pick fights with
others, though - are you suggesting that the target of these attacks
should not return fire? (That wouldn't be much fun, would it?)


In addition, Len has posted here under a variety of screen names
(like "averyfine" and "averyfineman") often without any real ID.

I had no problem figuring out who the author of those posts were - did
you? Get the humor? Avery Fineman...A Very Fine Man...heh heh.

snip

73 de Jim, N2EY

73, Leo

wrote in message
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From: Leo on Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:27:59 -0400

On 31 May 2005 17:04:05 -0700, wrote:
From: Leo on Tues 31 May 2005 15:02
On 31 May 2005 02:06:42 -0700, wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
Arf! Arf! wrote:

Some time back an anonymous poster calling himself "Leo" appeared
here. Claimed he was a ham in Canada. You considered him "legitimate".

Hmmm - probably because I am! ...... :)

Nice to see you again, Leo! Of course, you have to realize
definitions in here are tangential to the Real World.

Agreed - a parallel dimension, of sorts.... :)

Several years ago I compared some of the attitudes in here
to old "Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits" TV shows. Must
have their antennae out too far from their scalps... :-)

If you are FOR morse code testing by administrations, you are
"legitimate."

If you are against morse code testing then you are "illegitimate,"
"in error," "mistaken," "are a lying penis-head" and have
underarm odor.

Heh! or worse..... :)

Tsk, ain't it awful? :-)

Poor Jimmie is all upset by "my name-calling." He is sorely
wounded. I've called him names like James, Jimmy, Jimmie
and he is all a-twitter over those "insults." Tsk, tsk,
he must have thought those are equivalent to "gutless lying
coward", a term used often by another PCTA Extra in
addition to "PUTZ." Maybe I'll just refer to James as
"Your Exhalted Highness" and he will immediately understand
that it does mean His High (and Mighty) Holiness! :-)

Yup, yup, there's a very REAL PCTA Double Standard in here.

These "radio experts" (all through an ability at rapid
morse code) seem to have NO experience with the new
lead-free "solder" which is starting to give electronics
production lines some very real problems with tin dendrites
or "whiskers." [dendrites form out of lead-free solder long
after assembly and can grow to short out traces on PCBs]
Apparently not one of the morsemen (might and macho though
they may be) KNOW about this as part of RoHS.

So, a master super chief calls a play on words nasty things.
TOMB OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDER is a many-level little diatribe.
First, on this lead-free solder according to RoHS rules.
Second, on our beloved "critic" and self-appointed, self-
styled Raddio Kopp - the Avenging Angle of Dearth. Third,
on all the emotion-only image dwellers who get too
overwrought by "approved" stylized patriotic phrases and
Want To KILL (or otherwise do nasty to) all those who do
not knee-jerk to THEIR "approved" patriotism.

Actually, those in the third group are hypocrites, taking
advantage of the medium to be much more than they really
are. Their "patriotism" is primarily for themselves, as
they can "be all that they (wish to) be" in a terrible
parody-travesty of the U.S. Army recruiting phrase.

On entering the U.S. military, recruits are sworn in and
promise to "defend the Constitution of the United States."
Too many in here have substituted ARRL for the United
States. Defending the Constitution of the ARRL (probably
with their lives, if needs be) is NOT national patriotism,
no matter how they rage.


[anyone can be anything in this medium...and many are! :-)]

I'm not at all sure of what some of the cross-dressing anony-
mousies are in here. They may have been tossed off some porn
sites catering to "amateurs" and are confused as to content in
here... :-)

Wherever they came from, they've sure been wreaking havoc in here
lately! Seems to have quieted down a bit in the last few weeks,
though.

Ask "Quitefine," the nom de pheume of James Miccolis.

"Pheume" is an aliteration, another play on words, a
mixture of 'plume' and 'fume' and 'phew.' :-)

Screum.


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