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FCC may look at all this and just draw the line. Note how, in the 2000
restructuring, they outlawed multiple-choice code tests....


Wasn't it the council of VECs who made that decision? I believe that Part
97 does not specify how the 5wpm test is to be administered.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote


Wasn't it the council of VECs who made that decision? I believe that Part 97
does not specify how the 5wpm test is to be administered.


I think you're correct Dee. The FCC rules are silent on the form of actual
examination:

§97.503 Element standards.

(a) A telegraphy examination must be sufficient to prove that the examinee has
the ability to send correctly by hand and to receive correctly by ear texts in
the international Morse code at not less than the prescribed speed, using all
the letters of the alphabet, numerals 0-9, period, comma, question mark, slant
mark and prosigns AR, BT and SK.
Element 1: 5 words per minute.

Interestingly, the NCVEC has chosen to ignore the "ability to send correctly by
hand" clause of the rules.

73, de Hans, K0HB
--
Come sit by the fire and warm your bones. Let's enjoy a warm bracing drink and a
few tales. "The wind was picking up, clouds were rolling in, my hands were numb,
nose was running, I had to pee, and I was thinking of heading for the dock
when..."

K=D8HB wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote


Wasn't it the council of VECs who made that decision? I believe that P=
art 97
does not specify how the 5wpm test is to be administered.


I think you're correct Dee. The FCC rules are silent on the form of actu=
al
examination:

=A797.503 Element standards.

(a) A telegraphy examination must be sufficient to prove that the examine=
e has
the ability to send correctly by hand and to receive correctly by ear tex=
ts in
the international Morse code at not less than the prescribed speed, using=
all
the letters of the alphabet, numerals 0-9, period, comma, question mark, =
slant
mark and prosigns AR, BT and SK.
Element 1: 5 words per minute.

Interestingly, the NCVEC has chosen to ignore the "ability to send correc=
tly by
hand" clause of the rules.

Back before VE days the FCC examiners often skipped past the sending
test too. It's been a long time and the details are fuzzy in my mind at
this late point but when I went for my Extra the examiner called off
the receiving test about a minute and a half into it and ignored the
sending test. Maybe that was when I went for my General . . ? One or
the other.


73, de Hans, K0HB
--
Come sit by the fire and warm your bones. Let's enjoy a warm bracing drin=
k and a
few tales. "The wind was picking up, clouds were rolling in, my hands wer=
e numb,
nose was running, I had to pee, and I was thinking of heading for the dock
when..."

.. . Mom hollered out the window "Don't you even THINK about peeing on
that bush and get back in here!"

w3rv

From: on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 19:04


K=D8=88B wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote


=2E . Mom hollered out the window "Don't you even THINK about peeing on
that bush and get back in here!"

w3rv

And you heard that last when? At age 36?

:-)

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From: on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 19:04

K=D8=88B wrote:
"Dee Flint" wrote


. . Mom hollered out the window "Don't you even THINK about peeing on
that bush and get back in here!"

w3rv

And you heard that last when? At age 36?

At least he heard it.

We've been telling you that your lies and deceit are unwelcome for
years and you don't seem to hear it.



Putz.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:

We've been telling you that your lies and deceit are unwelcome for
years and you don't seem to hear it.

But yours are welcomed and enjoyed by all.

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"Dee Flint" wrote


Wasn't it the council of VECs who made that decision? I believe that
Part 97 does not specify how the 5wpm test is to be administered.


I think you're correct Dee. The FCC rules are silent on the form of
actual examination:

§97.503 Element standards.

(a) A telegraphy examination must be sufficient to prove that the examinee
has the ability to send correctly by hand and to receive correctly by ear
texts in the international Morse code at not less than the prescribed
speed, using all the letters of the alphabet, numerals 0-9, period, comma,
question mark, slant mark and prosigns AR, BT and SK.
Element 1: 5 words per minute.

Interestingly, the NCVEC has chosen to ignore the "ability to send
correctly by hand" clause of the rules.


Probably just following the example of the FCC itself. I have read that the
FCC dropped the sending test as it was rare for someone to be unable to send
even though they could receive. The more common scenario is that most
people can send faster than they can receive anyway.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE