KC8GXW wrote:
What makes a person a real ham?

Anyone who holds a license and when operating on the ham bands, acts
like a gentleman at all times. There are some on here who wouldn't qualify.

1. Elmers and helps other Hams.
2. Gets involved in Emergency Service and is prepared to assist in an
emergency
3. Promotes international good will by corresponding with foreign hams (on
the air, e-mail, echolink, etc) or hosting
4. Frequents news groups and forums and helps others
5. Supports a local repeater group
6. Monitors a local repeater and helps visitors and locals with their
questions
7. Helps with youth groups and new hams
8. Observes the calling frequencies and band plans useage
9, Communicates in a gentlemanly fashion
10. Is totally cognizant of the technical standards of their station
11. Is a member of the ARRL
12. Writes letters or e-mails regarding laws, BPL, spectrum use, FCC policy
13. Educate the general public on the value of Amateur Radio
14. Avoid public bashing of Amateur Radio

If you do all of these -- you be a real ham
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

Caveat:

Some of that sounds just like the shriners, masons, illuminati and the
local moose lodge here... the rest a ham might do...

Warmest regards,
John

"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:gXZne.182$Cr.70@fed1read07...
1. Elmers and helps other Hams.
2. Gets involved in Emergency Service and is prepared to assist in an
emergency
3. Promotes international good will by corresponding with foreign hams
(on the air, e-mail, echolink, etc) or hosting
4. Frequents news groups and forums and helps others
5. Supports a local repeater group
6. Monitors a local repeater and helps visitors and locals with their
questions
7. Helps with youth groups and new hams
8. Observes the calling frequencies and band plans useage
9, Communicates in a gentlemanly fashion
10. Is totally cognizant of the technical standards of their station
11. Is a member of the ARRL
12. Writes letters or e-mails regarding laws, BPL, spectrum use, FCC
policy
13. Educate the general public on the value of Amateur Radio
14. Avoid public bashing of Amateur Radio

If you do all of these -- you be a real ham
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:51:12 -0400, KC8GXW wrote:

What makes a person a real ham?

Some time hanging in a smoke house and a bunch of salt

KC8GXW wrote:
What makes a person a real ham?

Being cured and smoked over a real hickory wood fire....

Is it doing more then 5 wpm code?

8.5 wpm, if my numbers are correct.

Is it being accepted by certain other hams?

Who on earth would care about that?

Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of
license they hold now?

Only people who were licensed on February 15th, 1955 are real hams. All
others are a sham.

Can a person climb to Extra with today's test and be considered a real ham?

You have to take the tests administered in 1932.


Is yodoc aka K3LT a real ham, or the one to determine who is a real ham?

Good lord, he hasn't posted here in a long time, why bring Larry into
the mix?


Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away
license" ever be considered a real ham?

You don't know the half of it! I was forced at gunpoint to take the
ridiculously easy tests available today. I wanted to take an older test,
but the bleary eyed VE, cocked the trigger on his 45, and I knew it was
to either become a nickel extra, or die!


Does getting a vanity license that is an older call such as K8*** or
WD8*** make you a real ham?

Hey! I'm thinking about getting a Vanity. Be nice!


I didn't take the free upgrade to general, so would this make me a cb'er
or no coder as the toad says?

Everyone is a CB'er.

I'm not being a troll, I would really like to know the answers to this!

Hey, if you have to ask.......... 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:

KC8GXW wrote:

What makes a person a real ham?


Being cured and smoked over a real hickory wood fire....

Is it doing more then 5 wpm code?


8.5 wpm, if my numbers are correct.

Is it being accepted by certain other hams?


Who on earth would care about that?

Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of
license they hold now?


Only people who were licensed on February 15th, 1955 are real hams. All
others are a sham.

Can a person climb to Extra with today's test and be considered a real
ham?


You have to take the tests administered in 1932.


Is yodoc aka K3LT a real ham, or the one to determine who is a real ham?


Good lord, he hasn't posted here in a long time, why bring Larry
into the mix?

I wondered if anybody remembered him! I know Kim would. I asked about
Larry because in his book, you couldn't be a "real ham" unless you
thought like he did, of course you needed to enjoy CW to be real!

Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away
license" ever be considered a real ham?


You don't know the half of it! I was forced at gunpoint to take the
ridiculously easy tests available today. I wanted to take an older test,
but the bleary eyed VE, cocked the trigger on his 45, and I knew it was
to either become a nickel extra, or die!


Does getting a vanity license that is an older call such as K8*** or
WD8*** make you a real ham?


Hey! I'm thinking about getting a Vanity. Be nice!


I didn't take the free upgrade to general, so would this make me a
cb'er or no coder as the toad says?


Everyone is a CB'er.

I'm not being a troll, I would really like to know the answers to this!


Hey, if you have to ask.......... 8^)


- Mike KB3EIA -

KC8GXW:

Why are we are "REAL" hams--our chit don't stink, we have an IQ above
room temp and have passed the test--we paste a darn hobby licence on the
wall as if it were a PHD... we worship the "dit dah God", gawd man, get
a clue... grin

.... some of even have a sense of humor--that not only makes a real ham,
it makes a real man...

Warmest regards,
John

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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What makes a person a real ham?
Is it doing more then 5 wpm code?
Is it being accepted by certain other hams?
Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of
license they hold now?
Can a person climb to Extra with today's test and be considered a real
ham?
Is yodoc aka K3LT a real ham, or the one to determine who is a real
ham?
Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away
license" ever be considered a real ham?
Does getting a vanity license that is an older call such as K8*** or
WD8*** make you a real ham?
I didn't take the free upgrade to general, so would this make me a
cb'er or no coder as the toad says?
I'm not being a troll, I would really like to know the answers to
this!

What makes a real amateur radio operator is a current and valid station and
operator license issued by the FCC.

What makes a real ham is the ability to kindly and gently assist another
radio operator to understand something about the art and science of
electronics that they do not understand.

Jim




"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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What makes a person a real ham?

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
...
What makes a person a real ham?
Is it doing more then 5 wpm code?
Is it being accepted by certain other hams?
Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of
license they hold now?
Can a person climb to Extra with today's test and be considered a real
ham?
Is yodoc aka K3LT a real ham, or the one to determine who is a real ham?
Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away
license" ever be considered a real ham?
Does getting a vanity license that is an older call such as K8*** or
WD8*** make you a real ham?
I didn't take the free upgrade to general, so would this make me a cb'er
or no coder as the toad says?
I'm not being a troll, I would really like to know the answers to this!


A good ham is one who strives to follow all rules and regulations pertaining
to amateur radio.
A good ham is one who strives to use good operating practices at all times.
A good ham is one who strives to learn and develop within the hobby.
A good ham is one who strives to help his fellow hams learn and develop
within the hobby.
A good ham is one who strives to give to the community via the use of his
hobby.

Look up the "Amateur's Code". I'm sure there's a copy floating around the
internet somewhere. That pretty well defines a good ham. It doesn't
include anything like code speed, date licensed, license class, types of
test available to take or any of that sort of thing.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

From: "Dee Flint" on Fri 3 Jun 2005 19:42

"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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Look up the "Amateur's Code". I'm sure there's a copy floating around the
internet somewhere.

...including the ARRL who first published it well before WW2.

Note especially #2: "The Amateur is Loyal...He offers his
loyalty, encouragement and support for his fellow radio
amateurs, his local club, and to the American Radio Relay
League, through which amateur radio is represented."

It has been in the front of annual ARRL Handbooks in the
1970s and should be on the ARRL website now.

Oh, my, a bit self-serving the League was, wasn't it?

In the 1920s the ARRL had not yet attained their virtual
monopoly on national amateur radio membership organizations
in the USA. The ARRL was striving for being #1 then and
were starting to get ahead through the first of its many
publications. That sort of self-serving "patriotism" was
designed to (subtly) develop League Loyalty then. It's a
GOOD technique for organization survival. It WORKED.

"Through which amateur radio is represented." NOT quite a
full truth. The ARRL is most definitely NOT a true
government representative for the radio amateur. The ARRL
membership is only 1 in 5 of all radio amateur licensees.
EVERY U.S. citizen's TRUE representatives, radio amateur
or not, is their elected government officials and the FCC
itself. All of us have the perfect RIGHT to go direct to
the FCC and voice our own opinions on radio regulatory
matters. There is NO NEED (except by the ARRL itself to
survive) to use the League as an "amateur's representative"
to our government.

The ARRL "represents" ONLY the valid, licensed amateur and
then only 1 in 5. All others can forget any possibility of
"representation" to our government. That's just the way
it is...