"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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Dan/W4NTI wrote:
"KC8GXW" wrote in message
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What makes a person a real ham?
Is it doing more then 5 wpm code?

A "Real Ham" is proficient in all forms and modes of communications. One
of the primary purposes of Amateur Radio is to provide a pool of
qualified radio operators in the event of emergency. Thus being able to
use Morse Code at anything but training wheel speed is a big plus.



Is it being accepted by certain other hams?


No, not entirely. But being able to assimilate with minimum friction is
a big help. In otherwords don't show up with a "I know it all attitude"
and have a bit of respect for those that have been there before you.

Would that be the "give away license" that you made reference to in
another post? You do realize that there are still Tech's out there that
took the old Novice and then upgraded to Tech by doing the general theory!

Yes it is, and yes I am. So what? The general theory was mainly concerned
with freqs used by Generals and HF stuff. At that time in history the Tech
test was centered around V/Uhf stuff.

Could it be the date they were first licensed, or maybe the class of
license they hold now?


That does have a bearing on things. Don't come on with the above
attitute holding a Technician ticket for 6 months, and expect to be
treating with respect. Respect is earned me boy.


Can a person climb to Extra with today's test and be considered a real
ham?


No, not really. Must I elaborate on the obvious?

If one does that wonderous dead and then EARNS the respect of those other
hams. A lot of what I said above is bypassed. Respect, Earned those
are the key words here.


Is yodoc aka K3LT a real ham, or the one to determine who is a real ham?


Don't know the man.


Can somebody who gets into amateur radio today with the "give away
license" ever be considered a real ham?


Sure...see above.


Does getting a vanity license that is an older call such as K8*** or
WD8*** make you a real ham?


A WD8? a joke right? Try W or K ...one by two or three, non vanity of
course. Thats an old timer.

But there are too many no code tech's that get a vanity call now adays.

Which totally sucks. The FCC at ONE TIME wanted distintive callsigns for
class of license. Now it is too much work to bother with. What a joke they
are.


As a matter of fact the FCC once considered the W/K prefix "prefered
calls". And at one time the FCC required you to change your call if you
permanetly moved to another district. And in deference to the W/K....if
you had one they would issue another from the prefered block.

Which is how I got my present call (W4NTI) because I used to have K8BHH.
Course that all went to crap with the alphabet soup system of today.

There's an Extra near here that still has his K8*** call, he was a tech
until the early nineties and upgraded to Extra when it was still 20 wpm.

So what? having a old K8 means he has a original issue K8 call. You don't
seem to comprehend that what was this and what is now ain't no where near
the same. All there was back then was W and K calls, followed by WA, WB,
WD, then a re-issue for a while, then the alphabet soup we have today.



I didn't take the free upgrade to general, so would this make me a cb'er
or no coder as the toad says?


No, just a no coder. Unless of course you did pass a 5wpm test. Then
you would be a Technician. Hi hi.

I took the 5wpm when I did my novice.

Congrats....so did I. Then I jumped over the Tech and took my General at
13wpm, then my Advanced then my Extra at 20wpm. Your point is?



I'm not being a troll, I would really like to know the answers to this!



Hope that helps a bit.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI