There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

robert casey wrote:

There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

Absolutely correct, Mr Casey.

From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html

To wit:

The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing
Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a
"battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly
from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early
models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car
radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in
motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and
police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and
began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947.


UNQUOTE

73

Steve, K4YZ

"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


robert casey wrote:

There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

Absolutely correct, Mr Casey.

From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html

To wit:

The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing
Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a
"battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly
from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early
models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car
radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in
motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and
police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and
began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947.


UNQUOTE

73

Steve, K4YZ



Steve,

Please don't mention 1947.

I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL.

I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna
impedance with a volt-ohm meter.

I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50%
efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967).

I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a
complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close
enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning
of Altzheimer's.

I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months
ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten.
Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra
is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))?

I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't
generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one
time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition,
subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously,
however, my idea of equations must be in error.

Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for
resonant frequency = L times C.

So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead
as I.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL

Jim Hampton wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


robert casey wrote:

There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

Absolutely correct, Mr Casey.

From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html

To wit:

The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing
Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a
"battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly
from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early
models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car
radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in
motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and
police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and
began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947.


UNQUOTE

73

Steve, K4YZ



Steve,

Please don't mention 1947.

I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL.

I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna
impedance with a volt-ohm meter.

I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50%
efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967).

I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a
complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close
enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning
of Altzheimer's.

I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months
ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten.
Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra
is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))?

I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't
generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one
time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition,
subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously,
however, my idea of equations must be in error.

Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for
resonant frequency = L times C.

So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead
as I.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL

At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were
wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong,
---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam
thread.

Let's see what Steve does.

bb wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


robert casey wrote:

There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

Absolutely correct, Mr Casey.

From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html

To wit:

The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing
Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a
"battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly
from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early
models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car
radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in
motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and
police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and
began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947.


UNQUOTE

73

Steve, K4YZ



Steve,

Please don't mention 1947.

I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL.

I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna
impedance with a volt-ohm meter.

I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50%
efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967).

I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a
complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close
enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning
of Altzheimer's.

I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months
ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten.
Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra
is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))?

I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't
generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one
time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition,
subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously,
however, my idea of equations must be in error.

Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for
resonant frequency = L times C.

So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead
as I.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL

At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were
wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong,
---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam
thread.

Let's see what Steve does.

Apologize for what, Brain...?!?!

Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References
provided.

Lennie was WRONG.

Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose
spindance to hide behind his error...

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that!

It was no "slam thread".

Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't
paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional".

Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed
him his error.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


robert casey wrote:

There was NO company named "Motorola" until 1947.

Until then, "Motorola" was just the model name for car radios...No
company...

So...how did "Motorola" do anything for Army communications in
1940...?!?!

Must have been the Galvin(sp) company, the ancestor of Motorola.

Absolutely correct, Mr Casey.

From: http://www.hitechwireless.cc/html/history.html

To wit:

The company was founded by Paul V. Galvin as the Galvin Manufacturing
Corporation, in Chicago, Illinois, in 1928. Its first product was a
"battery eliminator," allowing consumers to operate radios directly
from household current instead of the batteries supplied with early
models. In the 1930s, the company successfully commercialized car
radios under the brand name "Motorola," a word suggesting sound in
motion. During this period, the company also established home radio and
police radio departments; instituted pioneering personnel programs; and
began national advertising. The name of the company was changed to
Motorola, Inc., in 1947.


UNQUOTE

73

Steve, K4YZ



Steve,

Please don't mention 1947.

I just had a birthday last month and I am feeling *very* antiquated LOL.

I have been unable to learn new concepts, such as measuring your antenna
impedance with a volt-ohm meter.

I still cannot understand the concept of a class A amplifier being 50%
efficient (taught by the U.S. Navy in 1967).

I had a problem even as a youngster when a teacher told me that there was a
complex formula for finding resonant frequency, but L times C was close
enough. I was 14 at the time and already apparently suffering the beginning
of Altzheimer's.

I admit to having some problems with The Calculus but managed some months
ago to borrow a book and get back a bit of what I had forgotten.
Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra
is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))?

I can only assume that I have memorized many things in error. I don't
generally use calculators like many do to make change (I caught an error one
time a kid did use a calculator), so I suspect my basic addition,
subraction, multiplication, and division have not disappeared. Obviously,
however, my idea of equations must be in error.

Many folks state that pi is equal to 3. Well, that still doesn't work for
resonant frequency = L times C.

So, in any case, Steve, welcome to the club. You are likely as brain dead
as I.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - try to avoid these kind of threads LOL

At this point, an honorable person would not only admit that they were
wrong, but would apologize to the person they were claiming was wrong,
---and--- apologize to that person for starting yet another slam
thread.

Let's see what Steve does.

Apologize for what, Brain...?!?!

Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References
provided.

Lennie was WRONG.

Hi!

Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose
spindance to hide behind his error...

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that!

It was no "slam thread".

They're all slam threads.

Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't
paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional".

Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed
him his error.

Steve, K4YZ

Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again.

bb wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References
provided.

Lennie was WRONG.

Hi!

The possibility exists that he was hi when he made the error, yes.
One dose too many of Geritol, no doubt.

Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose
spindance to hide behind his error...

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that!

It was no "slam thread".

They're all slam threads.

No there not.

Not one bit of deception or error, Brian...He was wrong.

Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't
paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional".

Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed
him his error.

Steve, K4YZ

Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again.

The "thread" is around Lennie's throat.

Steve, K4YZ

From: "bb" on Thurs 9 Jun 2005 03:36

K4YZ wrote:
bb wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
"K4YZ" wrote in message
oups.com...


Let's see what Steve does.

Apologize for what, Brain...?!?!

Motorola was NOT a company in 1940. THAT is a fact. References
provided.

Lennie was WRONG.

Hi!

Well, the self-styled mighty warrior, self-proclaimed "expert" on
corporate structures, is (as usual) strutting double-time in
this barnyard crowing at his cackling best about "rightness." :-)

MOTOROLA Corporation existed as such BEFORE the Last Action
Hero was even conceived. [some doubt his conception, saying
he was simply issued out of a USMC supply room long ago]

The MOTOROLA logo was synonymous with "Galvin" before WW2.

Anyone IN the electronics-radio industry KNOWS of MOTOROLA,
both as a corporation and as a brand name, a logo.


Let's see what LENNIE does, other than provide yet another verbose
spindance to hide behind his error...

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! TOO LATE! He already did that!

It was no "slam thread".

They're all slam threads.

Mighty WARRIOR Stebie thinks EVERYONE is out to "get him" and
must retaliate with slam threads. His personalities are
paranoid.

Lennie got his ego in front of his common sense again...Wasn't
paying attention. But he CLAIMS to be a "professional".

Poor Stebie, the Last Action Hero...claims to know all about
"professional" employment in radio-electronics. This self-
proclaimed knows-all-about-engineering has all the "experience"
of less than a half year as a purchasing agent. Tsk, tsk.

Stebie knows the "facts" about Motorola...because he went to
www.motorola.com and cut-and-pasted some corporate history
there. He waves that in "triumph" as if that is "vinidcation"
of his imaginary dispute about "greatness."

Tsk. I don't "claim" to be a professional. I've just worked
in radio-electronics since 1952, getting paid real money for
such work. The IRS knows that, the Franchise Tax Board of
California knows that, the DoD knows that, the FBI knows that,
the IEEE knows that, the ACM knows that, the County of Los
Angeles knows that. Stebie, he don't know that.

I've worked for RCA Corporation. RCA no longer exists except
as a logo now owned by Thompson CSF. RCA Corporation was ONCE
NOT "RCA Corporation." Amazing but true.

I've worked for Hughes Aircraft Corporation. That was once
"Hughes Tool Company." Hughes Aircraft NEVER made aircraft
(except some missles, the airframes contracted to another).
Hughes Aircraft Corporation is no longer, having gone through
a number of owners in recent decades. Hughes Aircraft was
once belonging to "Hughes Medical" and separate from Hughes
Tool Co., that firm that DOES make aircraft. Amazing but true.

I've worked for the Rocketdyne Division of Rockwell
International. That was once the Rocketdyne Division of
North American Aviation. Boeing Aircraft Company purchased
Rocketdyne Division several years ago. The Rocketdyne
Division did not exist in WW2. Amazing but true.

I've worked for contractors to JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory)
that was once a part of California Institute of Technology,
a university in Pasadena, CA. "JPL" became a separate legal
entity and later became part of NASA. Not amazing but true.

I've worked for Micro-Radionics, Inc., a small Van Nuys, CA,
corporation that was once a division of Kearfott Corporation,
a maker of servo and synchro motors. "MRI" was later purchased
by Systron-Donner and then resold to another.

The corporation CHANGES in the radio-electronics world are an
amazing mass of names and players that few outside of the
industry can follow in their lineage. MOTOROLA as a corporation
has existed since 1947...long before Stebie was a frown on his
pediatrician's brow. MOTOROLA as a corporation, as a logo, as
a symbol of a major player in radio and semiconductors is
LONG KNOWN to all of us who work or have worked in the industry.

Along comes a wounded little batty rooster called Stebie who
has very little REAL industry experience who got his pukey
little amateur feathers all disarranged by COMMON INDUSTRY
KNOWLEDGE known by thousands of others. Little Stebie don'
wanna do nuttin' but FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. He be very amateur
"extra" and "mighty warrior" (of the keyboard, of the mouth)
an' wanna be "victor." Stebie new "victor talking machine."
Play round flat plastic discs with dull needle, skipping
tracks, making clickey sounds.

Obviously THIS professional got his "facts" wrong. I just showed
him his error.

Poor Steve. Hanging by a thread again.

Stebie is nothing more than a poseur in radio-electronics,
a dink who self-defines his "might" and "expertise" but still
comes up as a dink. Stebie is one sick puppy. Too much HATE,
too much ANGER, no sense.

Stebie want world black and white, what he say is ONLY truth.
Not so. Stebie is black mark on today's radio amateur.

Unbelieveably, The Calculus appears to work, but how can it when my algebra
is so poor that I am unable to transform F=L*C into F=1/(6.28*sqr(L*C))?


I enjoyed calculus so much I took it twice. :-)

Now if you actually learned enough to actually *USE* calculus
to solve something, you're one leg up on me.... :-)