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b.b. July 10th 05 12:24 AM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Just as are the other records I've given you
information on.

You have no MARS records.

And here we have clear evidence that supports my contention that
one day your kids will see what a pathological liar you've been,
Brain...


Steve, anybody can have a MARS license and be inactive for years before
finally being removed from the record for non-participation. Such a
person may make claims to having held MARS calls, but should never make
claims of having held a leadership position in MARS.


I didn't say I had a "leadership position in MARS"...

I said I had a leadership position in a Marine Corps unit that
supported the MARS program on Okinawa.


Support? billets? chow? laundry? Just how did you support the MARS
program?

Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.

But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and
you told us that you had no letter of appointment.


Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to
the MARS program.


Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?

Were you lying then or are you lying now?


Neither.


Your stories just don't add up.

Your lack of knowledge of MARS indicates that you we

a. lying when you said that you held a leadership position in
MARS/Okinawa.


Nope.

and

b. not lying when you said you had no letter of appointment because
not having such a letter goes hand in hand with not having such a
leadership position.

So are you now claiming that you do have such a letter?


No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.


In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.

Nor do I have a copy of my orders to boot camp from the processing
station, nor do I have a currrent copy of my transfer to my last duty
station.


You sure lack a lot.

But those duty stations are part of the records I've refered you
to but you are too cowardly to write and find out about.

Over and over.


Mr. Robeson, it is yours to prove. Remember, if you can't prove your
assertions it means it didn't happen. And that you're a liar. Your
words, your rules, your logic.

Hi!


Hello yourself.


Hi yourself.

If that was supposed to be laughter, just remember, we're laughing
AT you, not WITH you, Brain.


We? You are all alone in this.

Assuming they didn't find out sooner anyway...


The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the
world, and their father's role was to protect them from it.


The sad truth is they are going to read.


Indeed.

Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.


K4YZ July 10th 05 12:24 PM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


I didn't say I had a "leadership position in MARS"...

I said I had a leadership position in a Marine Corps unit that
supported the MARS program on Okinawa.


Support? billets? chow? laundry? Just how did you support the MARS
program?

Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.


And again you post yet more proof and evidence that you are the
liar I claim you to be, and that you care little for the dishonor you
bring to your family name in the process.

Shame on you.

Steve, K4YZ


[email protected] July 10th 05 07:04 PM

From: "b.b." on Sat 9 Jul 2005 16:24

K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Just as are the other records I've given you
information on.

You have no MARS records.

And here we have clear evidence that supports my contention that
one day your kids will see what a pathological liar you've been,
Brain...

Steve, anybody can have a MARS license and be inactive for years before
finally being removed from the record for non-participation. Such a
person may make claims to having held MARS calls, but should never make
claims of having held a leadership position in MARS.


I didn't say I had a "leadership position in MARS"...

I said I had a leadership position in a Marine Corps unit that
supported the MARS program on Okinawa.


Support? billets? chow? laundry? Just how did you support the MARS
program?


He gave at the orifice?

Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.


In other words, Stebie did the Snow Job thing again... :-)

But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and
you told us that you had no letter of appointment.


Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to
the MARS program.


Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?


"FAP?" Whuzzat? "Foreign Anglo Provacateur?" :-)


Were you lying then or are you lying now?


Neither.


Your stories just don't add up.


His stories subtract from his credibility. His stories multiply
the massive amounts of wasted crud he claims. His stories can
be divided into confetti by simple logic.

Your lack of knowledge of MARS indicates that you we

a. lying when you said that you held a leadership position in
MARS/Okinawa.


Nope.

and

b. not lying when you said you had no letter of appointment because
not having such a letter goes hand in hand with not having such a
leadership position.

So are you now claiming that you do have such a letter?


No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.


In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.


...and there we have it!

Nor do I have a copy of my orders to boot camp from the processing
station, nor do I have a currrent copy of my transfer to my last duty
station.


You sure lack a lot.


He could be a knight of the Round Table...Sir Lackalot.


But those duty stations are part of the records I've refered you
to but you are too cowardly to write and find out about.

Over and over.


Mr. Robeson, it is yours to prove. Remember, if you can't prove your
assertions it means it didn't happen. And that you're a liar. Your
words, your rules, your logic.


Tsk. Nobody can get such records (under the FOIA laws) without
proving that they should have them. Family members qualify and
recognized corporate personnel departments qualify and so do
law officers.

Meanwhile, without SOME corroboration from SOMETHING else besides
"his records," all he's got is a bunch of smelly BS. shrug


Stebie making some "threat" about Brian's children...

The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the
world, and their father's role was to protect them from it.


The sad truth is they are going to read.


Indeed.


Yup...they'll see ol' Stebies' bilious hatred standing out in
the Google archives for all time to come. Nothing but yards
and yards and yards and yards of his hatred against any who
dare disagree with him on anything...trash-mouth extraordinaire.

Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.


He couldn't heal hisself afore. He be a walking sore, no
healing possible, lots of hurt in there and that makes him
HATE all that don't agree with him.


bit bit



K4YZ July 11th 05 10:37 AM



wrote:
From: "b.b." on Sat 9 Jul 2005 16:24


Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.


In other words, Stebie did the Snow Job thing again...

But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and
you told us that you had no letter of appointment.

Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to
the MARS program.


Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?


"FAP?" Whuzzat? "Foreign Anglo Provacateur?"


LENNIE!~ You mean there's a military acronym that you DON'T
know...?!?!?!

Were you lying then or are you lying now?

Neither.


Your stories just don't add up.


His stories subtract from his credibility.


They're not "stories".

A "story" is a tale without substantiation or validation.

I've provided numerous references to verify what I've said.

Contrary to Brian P Burke's "stories".

His stories multiply
the massive amounts of wasted crud he claims. His stories can
be divided into confetti by simple logic.


The "simple logic" is that you "CAN'T" disprove or rebutt my
references.

All you (or Brain and Markie) can do is TRY to blow enough smoke
in hopes that it covers your trail.

No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.


In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.


...and there we have it!


Nope.

The same orders are STILL in my SRB.

The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...

Mr. Robeson, it is yours to prove. Remember, if you can't prove your
assertions it means it didn't happen. And that you're a liar. Your
words, your rules, your logic.


Tsk. Nobody can get such records (under the FOIA laws) without
proving that they should have them. Family members qualify and
recognized corporate personnel departments qualify and so do
law officers.


However certain parts of military records ARE researchable.

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.

Lennie's not far behind. Still wondier what HIS "station" looks
like...He's tried to humilate everyone else who's dared show a picture
of ANY kinf of radio.

Meanwhile, without SOME corroboration from SOMETHING else besides
"his records," all he's got is a bunch of smelly BS.


Nope.

References provided. Can't help it if you won't avail yourself of
them.

Stebie making some "threat" about Brian's children...


What "threat"...?!?!

The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the
world, and their father's role was to protect them from it.

The sad truth is they are going to read.


Indeed.


Yup...they'll see ol' Stebies' bilious hatred standing out in
the Google archives for all time to come. Nothing but yards
and yards and yards and yards of his hatred against any who
dare disagree with him on anything...trash-mouth extraordinaire.


Nope.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...

Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.


He couldn't heal hisself afore. He be a walking sore, no
healing possible, lots of hurt in there and that makes him
HATE all that don't agree with him.


And again Leonard H Anderson expresses a lie in public.

As if it was somehting NEW....

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 11th 05 04:51 PM



K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "b.b." on Sat 9 Jul 2005 16:24


Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.


In other words, Stebie did the Snow Job thing again...

But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and
you told us that you had no letter of appointment.

Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to
the MARS program.

Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?


"FAP?" Whuzzat? "Foreign Anglo Provacateur?"


LENNIE!~ You mean there's a military acronym that you DON'T
know...?!?!?!

Were you lying then or are you lying now?

Neither.

Your stories just don't add up.


break

His stories subtract from his credibility.


They're not "stories".

A "story" is a tale without substantiation or validation.


and your certainly have none


I've provided numerous references to verify what I've said.


clues to clues, don't count oh lazy one


Contrary to Brian P Burke's "stories".

His stories multiply
the massive amounts of wasted crud he claims. His stories can
be divided into confetti by simple logic.

break

The "simple logic" is that you "CAN'T" disprove or rebutt my
references.


Well you got that one right but not for the reason you seem to think

You dispove something so nebulous


All you (or Brain and Markie) can do is TRY to blow enough smoke
in hopes that it covers your trail.


prehaps true but it is all you can do too


No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.

In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.


...and there we have it!


Nope.

The same orders are STILL in my SRB.


and your SRB is not here in the RRAP


The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


then you do it if it is so easy


Mr. Robeson, it is yours to prove. Remember, if you can't prove your
assertions it means it didn't happen. And that you're a liar. Your
words, your rules, your logic.


Tsk. Nobody can get such records (under the FOIA laws) without
proving that they should have them. Family members qualify and
recognized corporate personnel departments qualify and so do
law officers.


However certain parts of military records ARE researchable.


and we might get fragments but it would amount to your sereachs for me
without my name SS number dates of service etc

yougot nothing on me so I would not get anything on you


You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


it would be embarrashing to waste time that way on a wild goose chase


And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


and you are a lair under your own rules


Lennie's not far behind. Still wondier what HIS "station" looks
like...He's tried to humilate everyone else who's dared show a picture
of ANY kinf of radio.

Meanwhile, without SOME corroboration from SOMETHING else besides
"his records," all he's got is a bunch of smelly BS.


Nope.

References provided. Can't help it if you won't avail yourself of
them.


no references provided


Stebie making some "threat" about Brian's children...


What "threat"...?!?!


the implied to contact them

The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the
world, and their father's role was to protect them from it.

The sad truth is they are going to read.

Indeed.


Yup...they'll see ol' Stebies' bilious hatred standing out in
the Google archives for all time to come. Nothing but yards
and yards and yards and yards of his hatred against any who
dare disagree with him on anything...trash-mouth extraordinaire.


Nope.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


repating your theats


Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.


He couldn't heal hisself afore. He be a walking sore, no
healing possible, lots of hurt in there and that makes him
HATE all that don't agree with him.


And again Leonard H Anderson expresses a lie in public.


what "lie" are you reffering to?


As if it was somehting NEW....


what is somehting?


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 11th 05 05:07 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


I've provided numerous references to verify what I've said.


clues to clues, don't count oh lazy one


NMC and AF MARS callsigns are not "clues to clues".

All you (or Brain and Markie) can do is TRY to blow enough smoke
in hopes that it covers your trail.


prehaps true but it is all you can do too


Nope.

I've given dates, times, plaes, and in some cases persons.

Brain's given squat.

No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.

In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.

...and there we have it!


Nope.

The same orders are STILL in my SRB.


and your SRB is not here in the RRAP


But it is veribyable by letter.

The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


then you do it if it is so easy


And if I do it, someone says "Oh yeah...you doctored that..."

If THEY do it, they have no excuse.

However certain parts of military records ARE researchable.


and we might get fragments but it would amount to your sereachs for me
without my name SS number dates of service etc


I did a thorough search, Markie...You didn't serve.

And you were too stupid to already have a "fake" name in place
when I joined RRAP.

yougot nothing on me so I would not get anything on you


I got nothing on you because there was nothing to get.

You would fare better.

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


it would be embarrashing to waste time that way on a wild goose chase


Nope.

It would be embarrassing for you to see that I had been telling
the truth all along.

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


and you are a lair under your own rules


I'm not a "lair" under any rules.

Lennie's not far behind. Still wondier what HIS "station" looks
like...He's tried to humilate everyone else who's dared show a picture
of ANY kinf of radio.

Meanwhile, without SOME corroboration from SOMETHING else besides
"his records," all he's got is a bunch of smelly BS.


Nope.

References provided. Can't help it if you won't avail yourself of
them.


no references provided


Sure there were. Ask Brain.

Stebie making some "threat" about Brian's children...


What "threat"...?!?!


the implied to contact them


Oh make no mistake, I don't paln on nor will I "contact" them
before they are each age of majority.

However they are going to get an eyeful of thier father's
misbehaviour and dishonesty if they ever do a Google search for "Brian
Burke", N0IMD, etc.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


repating your theats


"repating" what "theats"...???

Your "partner" have enough of typing your RRAP positngs
today...?!?!

Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.

He couldn't heal hisself afore. He be a walking sore, no
healing possible, lots of hurt in there and that makes him
HATE all that don't agree with him.


And again Leonard H Anderson expresses a lie in public.


what "lie" are you reffering to?


That I "hate" all who "disagree" wit me.


As if it was somehting NEW....


what is somehting?


A clue.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 11th 05 07:12 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


I've provided numerous references to verify what I've said.


clues to clues, don't count oh lazy one


NMC and AF MARS callsigns are not "clues to clues".


nothing posted Stevie nothing not burried in the **** you shovel out


All you (or Brain and Markie) can do is TRY to blow enough smoke
in hopes that it covers your trail.


prehaps true but it is all you can do too


Nope.


then do it post something


I've given dates, times, plaes, and in some cases persons.


not that I can find

you post too much stuff to sort through

61 pages of entiries in google


Brain's given squat.


you are the subject


No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.

In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.

...and there we have it!

Nope.

The same orders are STILL in my SRB.


and your SRB is not here in the RRAP


But it is veribyable by letter.


veribyable?

without knowing names or dates or ss numbers yea right

The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


then you do it if it is so easy


And if I do it, someone says "Oh yeah...you doctored that..."


gee get the idea tha prove is hard to manage boyo


If THEY do it, they have no excuse.


really and if we do it you calim we did wroung or didn't do it all



However certain parts of military records ARE researchable.


and we might get fragments but it would amount to your sereachs for me
without my name SS number dates of service etc


I did a thorough search, Markie...You didn't serve.


i know better


And you were too stupid to already have a "fake" name in place
when I joined RRAP.


realy?

not fake btw just different


yougot nothing on me so I would not get anything on you


I got nothing on you because there was nothing to get.


becuase you went where I lead you


You would fare better.


doubt it

you stories cahnge so much I'd never know what I found or if it had
anything to do with you

Not even certain you are Steve Robeson K4YZ or K4CAP instead someone
using his name and so on ( you likely are but it is hardly proven)


You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


it would be embarrashing to waste time that way on a wild goose chase


Nope.


yes it would. without anything to look for it would be a wild goose
chase



It would be embarrassing for you to see that I had been telling
the truth all along.


No it would not be, it would be shocking but hardly embarrassing, very
little embassris me, haven't you noticed Stevie

If I were proved wroung id admit it and move on, not beat it to death


And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


and you are a lair under your own rules


I'm not a "lair" under any rules.


yes you are

you own.

You are not a lair in This matter BTW by mine, simply the telling of an
unconfirmed story

I call you a lait for other thing but not this


Lennie's not far behind. Still wondier what HIS "station" looks
like...He's tried to humilate everyone else who's dared show a picture
of ANY kinf of radio.

Meanwhile, without SOME corroboration from SOMETHING else besides
"his records," all he's got is a bunch of smelly BS.

Nope.

References provided. Can't help it if you won't avail yourself of
them.


no references provided


Sure there were. Ask Brain.


BB were there references?


Stebie making some "threat" about Brian's children...

What "threat"...?!?!


the implied to contact them


Oh make no mistake, I don't paln on nor will I "contact" them
before they are each age of majority.


but you implied you would that becomes a threat

just like it is crime to threaten a president even if you don't mean
it.

that fact clearly implies you CAN threaten thing even if you don't mean
to follow up


However they are going to get an eyeful of thier father's
misbehaviour and dishonesty if they ever do a Google search for "Brian
Burke", N0IMD, etc.


They will get a confusing mass of claims counter claims and name
calling I'd not change how I felt abotu my dad on the basis of any
such drivel


They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


repating your theats


"repating" what "theats"...???


your implied threats

2 phone call to knock on my door

One Shot one kill...

you implied threat to contact them

your threat to paint a blue L on my and brains head


Your "partner" have enough of typing your RRAP positngs
today...?!?!


my partner has never typed one of my posts

if she did they'd be her posts



Doctor Robeson, heal thyself.

He couldn't heal hisself afore. He be a walking sore, no
healing possible, lots of hurt in there and that makes him
HATE all that don't agree with him.

And again Leonard H Anderson expresses a lie in public.


what "lie" are you reffering to?


That I "hate" all who "disagree" wit me.


you do
you clearly do

you show it in losing you ability to spell



As if it was somehting NEW....


what is somehting?


A clue.


a mispelled word for the Great Delphi of the NET, is a clue, I guess it
is that you have long since lost it

I hope your kids don't read your stuff on here

I know one will not, and we can count that amoug her blessings


Steve, K4YZ



KØHB July 11th 05 08:53 PM


"b.b." wrote

Sounds familiar for the lower grades. For the top grades, there's a
board. When the board members read their CINC's remark (sounds more
like an order, doesn't it?), "Definitely promote," and there is a
billet, the Definitely Promote gets it.


Having been promoted through all the Navy enlisted grades through E9, I
understand how the promotion system works, and there is no magic "Definitely
Promote" tag which will get a lesser qualified person promoted over better
qualified candidates.

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB







b.b. July 12th 05 04:03 AM



K=D8HB wrote:
"b.b." wrote

Sounds familiar for the lower grades. For the top grades, there's a
board. When the board members read their CINC's remark (sounds more
like an order, doesn't it?), "Definitely promote," and there is a
billet, the Definitely Promote gets it.


Having been promoted through all the Navy enlisted grades through E9, I
understand how the promotion system works,


I'm certain that you do.

and there is no magic "Definitely
Promote" tag which will get a lesser qualified person promoted over better
qualified candidates.

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB


I accept that you beleive that. I do not.


b.b. July 12th 05 04:16 AM



K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
From: "b.b." on Sat 9 Jul 2005 16:24


Just as I suspected. You had absolutely nothing to do with MARS. No
wonder your ignorance vast ignorance shines through when you try to
speak authoratatively about MARS.


In other words, Stebie did the Snow Job thing again...

But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and
you told us that you had no letter of appointment.

Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to
the MARS program.

Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?


"FAP?" Whuzzat? "Foreign Anglo Provacateur?"


LENNIE!~ You mean there's a military acronym that you DON'T
know...?!?!?!


Clerk? Runner? Mailboy?

Were you lying then or are you lying now?

Neither.

Your stories just don't add up.


His stories subtract from his credibility.


They're not "stories".

A "story" is a tale without substantiation or validation.


Exactly.

I've provided numerous references to verify what I've said.


And there's a reference to Grimm's Fairy Tales in the card catalog at
the public library.

His stories multiply
the massive amounts of wasted crud he claims. His stories can
be divided into confetti by simple logic.


The "simple logic" is that you "CAN'T" disprove or rebutt my
references.


You can't divide by zero, either.

All you (or Brain and Markie) can do is TRY to blow enough smoke
in hopes that it covers your trail.


It is your trail that you wish covered? or your tail?

No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders.

In your own words, not having the paperwork means you didn't do it.


...and there we have it!


Nope.

The same orders are STILL in my SRB.


Excellent! Show them.

The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


Not my yob to validate your "stories."

Mr. Robeson, it is yours to prove. Remember, if you can't prove your
assertions it means it didn't happen. And that you're a liar. Your
words, your rules, your logic.


Tsk. Nobody can get such records (under the FOIA laws) without
proving that they should have them. Family members qualify and
recognized corporate personnel departments qualify and so do
law officers.


However certain parts of military records ARE researchable.

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.

Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the
world, and their father's role was to protect them from it.

The sad truth is they are going to read.

Indeed.


Yup...they'll see ol' Stebies' bilious hatred standing out in
the Google archives for all time to come. Nothing but yards
and yards and yards and yards of his hatred against any who
dare disagree with him on anything...trash-mouth extraordinaire.


Nope.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


K4YZ July 12th 05 03:44 PM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


Not my yob to validate your "stories."


What stories?

What's a "yob"..?!?!

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.


There's no "either way" to it, Brain.

I did do those things.

I did provided you with corroborating data.

And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


You are.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.

Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.


Nope.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck


No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.

You just keep dribbling, though...

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


No luck needed.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".

And the proof that you're a chronic liar can be found in almost
any thread wherein you've posted.

Lord knows there's enough of them to choose from.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 12th 05 06:21 PM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


Not my yob to validate your "stories."


What stories?


Your claims of combat


What's a "yob"..?!?!


job

How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?


You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.


There's no "either way" to it, Brain.

I did do those things.


prove it


I did provided you with corroborating data.


really?

Well never provided any to me

Google sereach turned up none

and to you Google is close to gospel,

so logicaly by your standard Henceforth (BYS)


And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


you are

The Brothers Grimm are Linguists

You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair


You are.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.


that you are a lair I guess it is


Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.


Nope.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.


Nope nothing a google search


On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


You steve chase them away they ander about about and sometimes come
back

From what I read Unliseneced devices played major roles In Denis



Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.


ARES is over blown in the claims made of the degree of their role


So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck


No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.


Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em


You just keep dribbling, though...

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


No luck needed.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".


again Have Stevie Boy

a whole post without spelling it right even once


And the proof that you're a chronic liar can be found in almost
any thread wherein you've posted.

Lord knows there's enough of them to choose from.

Steve, K4YZ



b.b. July 13th 05 12:18 AM



K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...


Not my yob to validate your "stories."


What stories?

What's a "yob"..?!?!

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.


I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.


There's no "either way" to it, Brain.


I say there is.

I did do those things.


Maybe. Probably not.

I did provided you with corroborating data.


You cannot be beleived. Provide authentic documentation.

And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!


Stay out of my bathroom.

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.


Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


You are.


I'm not.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.


Funny. You say I lack documentation, so that makes me a liar. Now you
say that you have documentation that I don't have. That makes you a
liar on several levels.

Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.


Nope.


I say you do.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.


Quit asking everyone else to do your legwork.

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


Please hold your breath.

Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.


Is taht what I claimed?

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck


No luck needed, Brain.


Your luck has run out. You are a lair.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.


The ball's been in your court for months now.

You just keep dribbling, though...


You keep fouling people.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...


Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


No luck needed.


It must be. You've been unable to provide authentic documentation for
months now.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".


So make the call. "Dialing...." Hi!

And the proof that you're a chronic liar can be found in almost
any thread wherein you've posted.


And you wonder why people think you're nuts.

Lord knows there's enough of them to choose from.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I feel sorry for you.


K4YZ July 13th 05 10:45 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...

Not my yob to validate your "stories."


What stories?


Your claims of combat


They weren't "claims".

What's a "yob"..?!?!


job

How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?


Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.

I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.


There's no "either way" to it, Brain.

I did do those things.


prove it


It's proven. The fact that I held callsigns NNN0VVU, AFA1OQ and
AAT4SA/T.

The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC of
Oki Areawide MARS proves it.

I did provided you with corroborating data.


really?

Well never provided any to me


Perhaps becasue none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.

Google sereach turned up none

and to you Google is close to gospel


Nope.

It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.

so logicaly by your standard Henceforth (BYS)


What?

And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.

Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


you are


No, I'm not.

The Brothers Grimm are Linguists


No...they're dead.

You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair


I am not a "lair".

You are.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.


that you are a lair I guess it is


I am not a "lair".

Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.


Nope.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.


Nope nothing a google search


Google wasn't the verifying source, Markie.

The various MARS departments were.

And HQ 1stMAW

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


You steve chase them away they ander about about and sometimes come
back


What? Huh?

From what I read Unliseneced devices played major roles In Denis
Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.


ARES is over blown in the claims made of the degree of their role


Oh?

According to EVERY agency that has employed their services,
including the Department of State, the American Red Cross, FEMA, The
Salvation Army, and other, you are wrong.

Are you telling me that Mark Morgan knows better than those
agencies?

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck


No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.


Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em


I have.


You just keep dribbling, though...

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...

Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


No luck needed.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".


again Have Stevie Boy

a whole post without spelling it right even once


Wrong.

To wit:

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ July 13th 05 02:17 PM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.


There's no "either way" to it, Brain.


I say there is.


Then that adds to my substantiation of your mistruthfullness...not
that it needed any more.

I did do those things.


Maybe. Probably not.


No maybe. No maybe not.

I did provided you with corroborating data.


You cannot be beleived. Provide authentic documentation.


You have the details.

What you lack is the testosterone to follow up on them.

And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!


Stay out of my bathroom.


I won't be there.

But you need to stay away from that mirror...

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.

Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


You are.


I'm not.


You are.

And you reprove it almost everytime you post.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.


Funny. You say I lack documentation, so that makes me a liar.


Nope. I said you lack proof...evidence.

The name of your commander or some reference to other sources that
corroborate your claims would be all we'd need.

Now that you have documentation that I don't have. That makes you a
liar on several levels.


Nope.

It makes you a coward on several levels for having the answers
in-hand but not following up on them.

Speaking of which...when your wife shops for pants for the man of
the family, whose size does she buy them in...Hers or yours?

Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.


Nope.


I say you do.


And you've been proven wrong on that too.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.


Quit asking everyone else to do your legwork.


No legwoek on my part.

All YOU have to do is make a phone call or send an e-mail.

For all the dodging and deciving you've done on the issue, you
could have had the answers a long time ago.

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


Please hold your breath.


So you admit that you've lied and have no intention of making good
on your assertions...

Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.


Is taht what I claimed?


"taht's" what you claimed.

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck


No luck needed, Brain.


Your luck has run out. You are a lair.


LOL!

You and Lennie both! Sheeesh! You, Lennie, Markie and Toiddie
all in the same club! WhooooHooooooo! ! ! !

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.


The ball's been in your court for months now.


Nope. It passed to you the second I gave you the specifics of
who, what. when, where, the callsigns, etc.

You just keep dribbling, though...


You keep fouling people.


No more than they do to themselves.

Such as your many unsubstantiated claims.

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...

Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.


No luck needed.


It must be. You've been unable to provide authentic documentation for
months now.


But I provided authentic details.

That you are too cowardly to follow up on them is not my problem.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".


So make the call. "Dialing...." Hi!


Don't laugh, Brain.

A call's been made.

You name is known.

And the proof that you're a chronic liar can be found in almost
any thread wherein you've posted.


And you wonder why people think you're nuts.


I don't wonder about anything so ludicrous.

I've proven you to be the liar I claim you to be, Brain.

You reinforce it with you incessant refusals to substantiate YOUR
claims and to take the information I've given you and act on it.

Lord knows there's enough of them to choose from.


Steve, I feel sorry for you.


You should. It's not easy trying to deal with individuals such as
yourself who have the problems you obviously do.

But the people you should REALLY feel sorry for are the family
members who look you in the eye today...for it will be those eyes that
have to look at you in a new light some day in the future...And you'll
have no one to blame but yourself.

Pity that.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 14th 05 05:21 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

The same orders you can validate but refuse to do because it would
"take too long", as if you have anything BUT time...

Not my yob to validate your "stories."

What stories?


Your claims of combat


They weren't "claims".


they are claims

wether they are true or not they are claims


What's a "yob"..?!?!


job

How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?


Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.

You refuse to do it because the results would be humiliating for
YOU.

I'm good either way. Either you did what you claim (and can/will prove
it), or you're a liar.

There's no "either way" to it, Brain.

I did do those things.


prove it


It's proven. The fact that I held callsigns NNN0VVU, AFA1OQ and
AAT4SA/T.


proveing what exactly

The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC of
Oki Areawide MARS proves it.


proves what?

never been exactly what you are claiming


I did provided you with corroborating data.


really?

Well never provided any to me


Perhaps becasue none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.


Why would I check MARS for your posts on RRAP where you claim that you
made these statements?


Google sereach turned up none

and to you Google is close to gospel


Nope.

It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.


Claimn that you posted to RRAP prove of your claims more than 8 years
ago?


so logicaly by your standard Henceforth (BYS)


What?

And the liar is in your bathroom waiting to peek out at you from
the mirror...QUICK! Go catch a peek!

And under "(my) rules, as you suggest, Brian P Burke IS a
liar, since in several YEARS of requests to do so, he's not ONCE
provided so much as a hint of ANY validation of ANY claim he's made.

Yes, yes, yes. That's what got this whole thing started. Don't you
remember???

You claimed that I am a liar.


you are


No, I'm not.


yep


The Brothers Grimm are Linguists


No...they're dead.


as long thier books and writing are sremebered and still some of the
statndrds of their feild many would say they say they are, but you LOVE
to quibble

they were if you like



You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair


I am not a "lair".


yep


You are.

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.


that you are a lair I guess it is


I am not a "lair".


even a docemented fact remains a claim


Now the foo is on the other shoot, and you have the very same
credibility problems that you claim that I have.

Nope.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.


Nope nothing a google search


Google wasn't the verifying source, Markie.


Google is the Archive of RRAP

therefore Google is the verufing source of what data you claim to have
posted


The various MARS departments were.


MARS does not archive RRAP, and as you say I can't search there achives
if they did


And HQ 1stMAW


ditto


On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


You steve chase them away they ander about about and sometimes come
back


What? Huh?

From what I read Unliseneced devices played major roles In Denis
Oh...and why you claim ARES is "overblown" and allegedly unable to
respond to disasters when they clearly continue to do exactly that.


ARES is over blown in the claims made of the degree of their role


Oh?

According to EVERY agency that has employed their services,
including the Department of State, the American Red Cross, FEMA, The
Salvation Army, and other, you are wrong.


So?


Are you telling me that Mark Morgan knows better than those
agencies?


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from

ARES but not the degree of that benifit


So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.


Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em


I have.


you have hardly made your claims in public (here) so you haven't proven
them



You just keep dribbling, though...

They'll see the man they loved in a different light...An
unfortunate one, at that...

Prove your unfounded assertions. Best of Luck.

No luck needed.

The proof that what I claimed is just a phone call or letter away.
All you ahve to do it "do it".


again Have Stevie Boy

a whole post without spelling it right even once


Wrong.

To wit:

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.


BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count

Steve, K4YZ



Cmd Buzz Corey July 14th 05 08:38 PM

an_old_friend wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:



How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?


Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.


How do you know? Bet you can't even copy Morse.

K4YZ July 14th 05 09:16 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


They weren't "claims".


they are claims

wether they are true or not they are claims


They are facts.

What's a "yob"..?!?!

job

How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?


Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.


No comment on that one, Markie?

It's proven. The fact that I held callsigns NNN0VVU, AFA1OQ and
AAT4SA/T.


proveing what exactly


Proving I did waht I said I did.

You are at liberty to validate the information independently.

The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC of
Oki Areawide MARS proves it.


proves what?

never been exactly what you are claiming


"...never been exactly what you are claiming..."

What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????

Perhaps becasue none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.


Why would I check MARS for your posts on RRAP where you claim that you
made these statements?


It wasn't about "RRAP" statements.

It's about verifying that I did what I said I did.

Brainless says I was never in MARS.

I've given Brainless the referneces to show I was...

It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.


Claimn that you posted to RRAP prove of your claims more than 8 years
ago?


Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!

I'm not going to waste time and bandwidth repeating what's in
archive already.

The Brothers Grimm are Linguists


No...they're dead.


as long thier books and writing are sremebered and still some of the
statndrds of their feild many would say they say they are, but you LOVE
to quibble


It's not quibbling.

They're dead. It's a matte of fact.

You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair


I am not a "lair".


yep


Nope....Not a "lair".

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.

that you are a lair I guess it is


I am not a "lair".


even a docemented fact remains a claim


Nope.

A "claim" is "I cured cancer".

A "fact" would be the formula and lab tests to prove it.

I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.

Nope nothing a google search


Google wasn't the verifying source, Markie.


Google is the Archive of RRAP


It's not about RRAP, Markie.

therefore Google is the verufing source of what data you claim to have
posted


Google only files what is written here.

It's not the "verifying source" of ANYthing accepts what's in it's
files.

The various MARS departments were.


MARS does not archive RRAP, and as you say I can't search there achives
if they did


That's not the point.

Learn English, THEN try to participate in the conversation,
Markie.

And HQ 1stMAW


ditto


That's not the point.


According to EVERY agency that has employed their services,
including the Department of State, the American Red Cross, FEMA, The
Salvation Army, and other, you are wrong.


So?


So I've provided references that contradict Brainless's claims.

Are you telling me that Mark Morgan knows better than those
agencies?


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES


What was THAT spiel, Markie?

You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!

WHAT AN IDIOT!~

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit


Completely incoherent, Markie.

Try again.

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.

Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em


I have.


you have hardly made your claims in public (here) so you haven't proven
them


Made WHAT claims "public"...?!?!

Markie..as I said earlier...GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH...

You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...


Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.


BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count


Absolutely incoherent.

Try again,Markie.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 14th 05 09:43 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


They weren't "claims".


they are claims

wether they are true or not they are claims


They are facts.


they might be facts, they are claims still


What's a "yob"..?!?!

job

How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?

Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.


No comment on that one, Markie?

It's proven. The fact that I held callsigns NNN0VVU, AFA1OQ and
AAT4SA/T.


proveing what exactly


Proving I did waht I said I did.


just what are saying you did


You are at liberty to validate the information independently.


thank you I think


The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC of
Oki Areawide MARS proves it.


proves what?

never been exactly what you are claiming


"...never been exactly what you are claiming..."


I don't know exactly what you are claiming

so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it


What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of
Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove



What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????


what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us


Perhaps becasue none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.


Why would I check MARS for your posts on RRAP where you claim that you
made these statements?


It wasn't about "RRAP" statements.


that Is what I am talking about, not sure what you are. Care to
explain?


It's about verifying that I did what I said I did.


which is what

what are you saying you did


Brainless says I was never in MARS.


being NCOIC anywhere does not prove you were in MARS or not. The
existance of MARS callsign proves what?

Never sen BB say you were not in MARS but that you don't seem to know
about MARS


I've given Brainless the referneces to show I was...


you claimed you given them where I coudl find them as well


It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.


Claimn that you posted to RRAP prove of your claims more than 8 years
ago?


Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!


I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time
i have read pages and pages of you insisting your claims are also
facts, without finding in the 60 pages of the titles of your posts your
claims


I'm not going to waste time and bandwidth repeating what's in
archive already.


then I must assume you have lied no problem
'

The Brothers Grimm are Linguists

No...they're dead.


as long thier books and writing are sremebered and still some of the
statndrds of their feild many would say they say they are, but you LOVE
to quibble


It's not quibbling.


it sure is


They're dead. It's a matte of fact.


a matte of facts


You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair

I am not a "lair".


yep


Nope....Not a "lair".


yep


It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.

that you are a lair I guess it is

I am not a "lair".


even a docemented fact remains a claim


Nope.


yes it does


A "claim" is "I cured cancer".

A "fact" would be the formula and lab tests to prove it.


but if you cured cancer then you statement I cured cancer would also
remain a claim, that it may also be a fact not withstanding


I provided specific, verifyable data that anyone can take to the
authorizing source and validate.

Nope nothing a google search

Google wasn't the verifying source, Markie.


Google is the Archive of RRAP


It's not about RRAP, Markie.


yes it is


therefore Google is the verufing source of what data you claim to have
posted


Google only files what is written here.


Brillaint, I never would have guessed that one


It's not the "verifying source" of ANYthing accepts what's in it's
files.


where you claimed your claims resided


The various MARS departments were.


MARS does not archive RRAP, and as you say I can't search there achives
if they did


That's not the point.


there is a point?

Learn English, THEN try to participate in the conversation,
Markie.


Stevie you need learn english


And HQ 1stMAW


ditto


That's not the point.


According to EVERY agency that has employed their services,
including the Department of State, the American Red Cross, FEMA, The
Salvation Army, and other, you are wrong.


So?


So I've provided references that contradict Brainless's claims.

Are you telling me that Mark Morgan knows better than those
agencies?


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES


What was THAT spiel, Markie?


the truth as best I know it


You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!


yes indeed

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit


Completely incoherent, Markie.


not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow


Try again.


nope


So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.

Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em

I have.


you have hardly made your claims in public (here) so you haven't proven
them


Made WHAT claims "public"...?!?!


claims that you have made claims
'


Markie..as I said earlier...GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH...


I have

you put out too much **** to sort through



You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.


BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count


Absolutely incoherent.


perfectly


Try again,Markie.



nope
I don't waste my time that way steve

Steve, K4YZ



an_old_friend July 14th 05 09:51 PM



Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:



How do you follow morse code if a single letter stimies you?

Because I've not met a Morse operator who spells like you do.


How do you know? Bet you can't even copy Morse.


sadly I suspect you correct


K4YZ July 15th 05 04:08 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


just what are saying you did


How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?

You are at liberty to validate the information independently.


thank you I think


You're welcome and no you don't.

I don't know exactly what you are claiming


Then go back through old RRAP archives and do some research

so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it


I just gave you some of the details.

Callsigns.

What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove


The statement itself proves nothing.

That the USMC can validate my service does.

What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????


what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us


If I could just understand what you were writing, it would be a lot
easier.

YOU are confused becasue you're a lazy idiot.

I am confused because you refuse to learn how to put a sentence
together.

Perhaps because none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.

Why would I check MARS for your posts on RRAP where you claim that you
made these statements?


It wasn't about "RRAP" statements.


that Is what I am talking about, not sure what you are. Care to
explain?


I already have.

Brain insists I've not had experience in MARS. I say I have, and
have provided information to corroborate it.

It's about verifying that I did what I said I did.


which is what


Which is for you to use Google archives and go back through
Brain's and my exchanges.

what are you saying you did


A R C H I V E S.

Brainless says I was never in MARS.


being NCOIC anywhere does not prove you were in MARS or not. The
existance of MARS callsign proves what?

Never sen BB say you were not in MARS but that you don't seem to know
about MARS


He's done both.

I've provided corroborating facts.

He refuses to follow-up on them.

I've given Brainless the referneces to show I was...


you claimed you given them where I coudl find them as well


Right in front of you DyslexiaBoy.

It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.

Claimn that you posted to RRAP prove of your claims more than 8 years
ago?


Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!


I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time


I make far greater sense in ANY time than you do.

i have read pages and pages of you insisting your claims are also
facts, without finding in the 60 pages of the titles of your posts your
claims


You're lying.

Wanna know HOW I know...?!?!

I'm not going to waste time and bandwidth repeating what's in
archive already.


then I must assume you have lied no problem


Ah ah ahhhhhhhhhhhh! Remember "assume"...?!?!

You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair

I am not a "lair".

yep


Nope....Not a "lair".


yep


Still not getting it, are you?

It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.

that you are a lair I guess it is

I am not a "lair".

even a docemented fact remains a claim


Nope.


yes it does


Not if it's been proven as a fact...

A "claim" is "I cured cancer".

A "fact" would be the formula and lab tests to prove it.


but if you cured cancer then you statement I cured cancer would also
remain a claim, that it may also be a fact not withstanding


It would no longer be a "claim".

It would be a fact.

Google is the Archive of RRAP


It's not about RRAP, Markie.


yes it is


Then you're completely lost, Markie.

And a complete idiot.

therefore Google is the verufing source of what data you claim to have
posted


Google only files what is written here.


Brillaint, I never would have guessed that one


Very "brillaint", I am sure.

Figure that out on your own?

It's not the "verifying source" of ANYthing accepts what's in it's
files.


where you claimed your claims resided


Huh..?!?!

ENGLISH, MARKIE! Use complete sentences with proper format and
punctuation, please.

The various MARS departments were.

MARS does not archive RRAP, and as you say I can't search there achives
if they did


That's not the point.


there is a point?


OTHER than the tip of your head, you mean...?!?!

Learn English, THEN try to participate in the conversation,
Markie.


Stevie you need learn english


"English" is capitalized.

Know how I know, Markie?

Because I am already competent in it's use and comprehension.

You would have known that had you been too!

Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES


What was THAT spiel, Markie?


the truth as best I know it


Then you don't know what's "best", Markie.

Just ill-prepared opinion unsubstantiated by facts.

You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!


yes indeed


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~


I reiterate....

WHAT AN IDIOT!

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit


Completely incoherent, Markie.


not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow


You mean the illogical type? No kidding.

Try again.


nope


Lazy punk.

So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.

Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em

I have.

you have hardly made your claims in public (here) so you haven't proven
them


Made WHAT claims "public"...?!?!


claims that you have made claims


You've been watching the neighbor's dog chase it's tali, haven't
you...?!?!

Markie..as I said earlier...GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH...


I have

you put out too much #### to sort through


Nope.

You're just too lazy to spend the time.

Just like your rudeness to Hans. You want things one way, spoon
fed to you, and anything less is "condescending"

You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count


Absolutely incoherent.


perfectly


Perfectly incoherent.

Try again,Markie.


nope


Yep.

I don't waste my time that way steve


Sure you do. Your whole life is a waste of time.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 04:41 AM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


just what are saying you did


How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?


Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help


You are at liberty to validate the information independently.


thank you I think


You're welcome and no you don't.


yes I do think


I don't know exactly what you are claiming


Then go back through old RRAP archives and do some research


I have can't find it

How many do I have to say that before you understand


so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it


I just gave you some of the details.

Callsigns.


Proving WHAT?

Having a MARS callsign doesn't proof you did anything with MARS or that
you Know anything about MARS

Otherwise you have to accept that MY callsign make me an expert on the
ARS


What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove


The statement itself proves nothing.

That the USMC can validate my service does.


to what end I do believe you were military likely a marine

but what does it have to do with the callsigns


What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????


what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us


If I could just understand what you were writing, it would be a lot
easier.


if you would come up and make repaet the claims you claim to be proving
the rest of us could judge wether or not you had done so. but...


YOU are confused becasue you're a lazy idiot.


prehaps, but I am confused by your refusual to says what you are
claimingwhile offering proof of a claim you refuse to repeat


I am confused because you refuse to learn how to put a sentence
together.


maybe

so


Perhaps because none of the MARS programs puts their records in
Google Archives.

Why would I check MARS for your posts on RRAP where you claim that you
made these statements?

It wasn't about "RRAP" statements.


that Is what I am talking about, not sure what you are. Care to
explain?


I already have.


a Lie


Brain insists I've not had experience in MARS. I say I have, and
have provided information to corroborate it.


no you have not even if those are valid Mars Callsign (not disputing
that yet but reserving the right) proves nothing without some kind of
logs.

By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best


I would hope that MARS does not keep and is not able to sort though
such trivia, (although it might be so foolish it has something to do
with the Military)



It's about verifying that I did what I said I did.


which is what


Which is for you to use Google archives and go back through
Brain's and my exchanges.


i have if you are claiming experetise with MARS you have not presented
any proof of it


what are you saying you did


A R C H I V E S.

Brainless says I was never in MARS.


being NCOIC anywhere does not prove you were in MARS or not. The
existance of MARS callsign proves what?

Never sen BB say you were not in MARS but that you don't seem to know
about MARS


He's done both.


Prehaps not arguing that


I've provided corroborating facts.


where?
what you have given here, proves nothing


He refuses to follow-up on them.


follow them where

What do you sugest to follow them up and what do you claim someone
would find if they did/

this is vital to even considering trying to follow up




I've given Brainless the referneces to show I was...


you claimed you given them where I coudl find them as well


Right in front of you DyslexiaBoy.


if that is it then you have provided nothing

some dates would help

Your rank at the time

what you would like one of us to do with it


It's only an archive. One that's only been viable for the last
8-10 years.

Claimn that you posted to RRAP prove of your claims more than 8 years
ago?

Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!


I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time


I make far greater sense in ANY time than you do.


even granting that , you just hem and haw and refuse to answer you use
words games to point I can't follow you or find just what you are
reffering to


i have read pages and pages of you insisting your claims are also
facts, without finding in the 60 pages of the titles of your posts your
claims


You're lying.


no try a Google serch and you will find 60 pages of of the title and a
few lines of your dreck


Wanna know HOW I know...?!?!


try it since I have seen the search result

I'm not going to waste time and bandwidth repeating what's in
archive already.


then I must assume you have lied no problem


Ah ah ahhhhhhhhhhhh! Remember "assume"...?!?!


yeah remember it is YOU and Mee made an ASS



You said they are not therefore BYS you are a lair

I am not a "lair".

yep

Nope....Not a "lair".


yep


Still not getting it, are you?


repating yourself does not make you turthful


It's not a "claim". It's a documented fact.

that you are a lair I guess it is

I am not a "lair".

even a docemented fact remains a claim

Nope.


yes it does


Not if it's been proven as a fact...


Nothing changes it status as a claim being proven or dispoven not
withstanding



A "claim" is "I cured cancer".

A "fact" would be the formula and lab tests to prove it.


but if you cured cancer then you statement I cured cancer would also
remain a claim, that it may also be a fact not withstanding


It would no longer be a "claim".


learn English

It remains a claim even if proven


It would be a fact.


it would also be a fact its facthood does not alter it's status as a
claim

Learn English


Google is the Archive of RRAP

It's not about RRAP, Markie.


yes it is


Then you're completely lost, Markie.


yes lost in your bull****


And a complete idiot.

therefore Google is the verufing source of what data you claim to have
posted

Google only files what is written here.


Brillaint, I never would have guessed that one


Very "brillaint", I am sure.

Figure that out on your own?


sarcasm


It's not the "verifying source" of ANYthing accepts what's in it's
files.


where you claimed your claims resided


Huh..?!?!

ENGLISH, MARKIE! Use complete sentences with proper format and
punctuation, please.


you LEARN English learn the meaning of the words Claim and Fact for a
start

you tell me to look for your claims in RRAP archives then tell me it
isn't there

you use logic and plain reason


The various MARS departments were.

MARS does not archive RRAP, and as you say I can't search there achives
if they did

That's not the point.


there is a point?


OTHER than the tip of your head, you mean...?!?!


More Stevie venom


Learn English, THEN try to participate in the conversation,
Markie.


Stevie you need learn english


"English" is capitalized.


so you understood didn't you

why do you waste bandwidth with such trivia


Know how I know, Markie?

Because I am already competent in it's use and comprehension.

You would have known that had you been too!


I just did not bother

you generate so much drivel I can't afford the time to care about ****
like that


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES

What was THAT spiel, Markie?


the truth as best I know it


Then you don't know what's "best", Markie.


but I know how the goverment works


Just ill-prepared opinion unsubstantiated by facts.


well prepared but unsupported by any facts i have presented

Why present no facts becuase you are not listening anyway


You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!


yes indeed


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~


I reiterate....

WHAT AN IDIOT!


not at all a valid representation fo History


From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.


not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow


You mean the illogical type? No kidding.


no a type of logic that escapes you



Try again.


nope


Lazy punk.


narrowminded fool


So prove your assertions or forever be known as a liar. Best of Luck

No luck needed, Brain.

The ball's been in YOUR court for months now.

Nope it is in yours your claim you prove em

I have.

you have hardly made your claims in public (here) so you haven't proven
them

Made WHAT claims "public"...?!?!


claims that you have made claims


You've been watching the neighbor's dog chase it's tali, haven't
you...?!?!


no been watching you dance and evade


Markie..as I said earlier...GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH...


I have

you put out too much #### to sort through


Nope.


you put out too much **** to sort through


You're just too lazy to spend the time.


I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in


Just like your rudeness to Hans. You want things one way, spoon
fed to you, and anything less is "condescending"


if you like

I am just defferent


You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count

Absolutely incoherent.


perfectly


Perfectly incoherent.


prefectly clear to anyone with a brain


Try again,Markie.


nope


Yep.


why?


I don't waste my time that way steve


Sure you do. Your whole life is a waste of time.


right at least I have a life


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 10:40 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


just what are saying you did


How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?


Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help


I do cut down on the volume.

You've not been paying attention.

You are at liberty to validate the information independently.

thank you I think


You're welcome and no you don't.


yes I do think


No, you do not.

I don't know exactly what you are claiming


Then go back through old RRAP archives and do some research


I have can't find it


You can't find RRAP archives?

What an idiot.

How many do I have to say that before you understand


So you're admitting you're computer illiterate too...?!?!

Sheesh. Are there no bounds to your limitations...?!?!

(Chew on that Mobius Loop for a while!)

so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it


I just gave you some of the details.

Callsigns.


Proving WHAT?

Having a MARS callsign doesn't proof you did anything with MARS or that
you Know anything about MARS

Otherwise you have to accept that MY callsign make me an expert on the
ARS


They "prove" I was a member. Further information can be gleaned
from there.

What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove


The statement itself proves nothing.

That the USMC can validate my service does.


to what end I do believe you were military likely a marine

but what does it have to do with the callsigns


(Sheesh...)

Markie, it's in the archives...Just like the rules you couldn't
find about the 60 meter allocations "weren't" in Part 97.

What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????

what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us


If I could just understand what you were writing, it would be a lot
easier.


if you would come up and make repaet the claims you claim to be proving
the rest of us could judge wether or not you had done so. but...


But nothing. Go back and read them.

YOU are confused becasue you're a lazy idiot.


prehaps, but I am confused by your refusual to says what you are
claimingwhile offering proof of a claim you refuse to repeat


I refuse to repeat all the goings-on between Brain and I for the
last 6 months.

Ask him. Maybe he'll e-mail you the links.

I bet HIS ISP doesn't chage him $5/hr.

Brain insists I've not had experience in MARS. I say I have, and
have provided information to corroborate it.


no you have not even if those are valid Mars Callsign (not disputing
that yet but reserving the right) proves nothing without some kind of
logs.


MARS maintains participation reports.

By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best


No, it doesn't.

I would hope that MARS does not keep and is not able to sort though
such trivia, (although it might be so foolish it has something to do
with the Military)


Records of previous memebers is "trivia"...???

BIG SNIP

Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!

I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time


I make far greater sense in ANY time than you do.


even granting that , you just hem and haw and refuse to answer you use
words games to point I can't follow you or find just what you are
reffering to


Because it's months and months of posts, and I'm not going to
repeat it all here when you can spend some of your daylight hours
reading it for yourself.

Still not getting it, are you?


repating yourself does not make you turthful


Maybe YOU like "repating" yourself, Markie...

Matter of fact, I bet that "partner" of yours is just beyond your
wrists.

It would be a fact.


it would also be a fact its facthood does not alter it's status as a
claim

Learn English


I already have.

I wish YOU would.

Google is the Archive of RRAP

It's not about RRAP, Markie.

yes it is


Then you're completely lost, Markie.


yes lost in your bull####


Still can't communicate without the profanity, eh?

ENGLISH, MARKIE! Use complete sentences with proper format and
punctuation, please.


you LEARN English learn the meaning of the words Claim and Fact for a
start


Already know them.

you tell me to look for your claims in RRAP archives then tell me it
isn't there

you use logic and plain reason


I do use logic and plain reason.

YOU don't keep track of what's being said. I can't help that.

Know how I know, Markie?

Because I am already competent in it's use and comprehension.

You would have known that had you been too!


I just did not bother


Lazy punk...Just like I said.

you generate so much drivel I can't afford the time to care about ####
like that


The divvel's in Michigan.

Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES

What was THAT spiel, Markie?

the truth as best I know it


Then you don't know what's "best", Markie.


but I know how the goverment works


No you don't.

Just ill-prepared opinion unsubstantiated by facts.


well prepared but unsupported by any facts i have presented


You've not presented any facts.

Why present no facts becuase you are not listening anyway


Why should I listen when this is a visual media?

You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!

yes indeed


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~


I reiterate....

WHAT AN IDIOT!


not at all a valid representation fo History


You're right...Nothing you've said is a valid representation of
history.

Then WHY did you lie in the first place?

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.

not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow


You mean the illogical type? No kidding.


no a type of logic that escapes you


It's not "logic" of ANY kind, other than chaotic.

Try again.

nope


Lazy punk.


narrowminded fool


Yes, you are. I stand corrected.

You're just too lazy to spend the time.


I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in


In other words: You're just too lazy to spend the time.

Just like your rudeness to Hans. You want things one way, spoon
fed to you, and anything less is "condescending"


if you like

I am just defferent


Oh, you're "defferent", OK...

You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count

Absolutely incoherent.

perfectly


Perfectly incoherent.


prefectly clear to anyone with a brain


No, it's not.

I don't waste my time that way steve


Sure you do. Your whole life is a waste of time.


right at least I have a life


Uh huh..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Sacrificing chickens and using
your "Hook On Phonics" kit to hold your beer and TV Dinner.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 04:46 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

just what are saying you did

How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?


Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help


I do cut down on the volume.


steveie you are not cutting the volume you are incresing it

You've not been paying attention.


I have indeed I have been giving you more attention than you deserve,
practicing my skills at dealing with narrowminded jerks (one of the big
reason for coming to RRAP these days)

but you haven't been saying much anything



You are at liberty to validate the information independently.

thank you I think

You're welcome and no you don't.


yes I do think


No, you do not.


yes I do


I don't know exactly what you are claiming

Then go back through old RRAP archives and do some research


I have can't find it


You can't find RRAP archives?


can't find what you are reffering to

of course part of that is I do not know exactly what you are reffering
to which makes reconizing it really hard


What an idiot.


another stevie distorion


How many do I have to say that before you understand


So you're admitting you're computer illiterate too...?!?!


nope

Sheesh. Are there no bounds to your limitations...?!?!

(Chew on that Mobius Loop for a while!)


Mobius has nothing do with it

you tell me to look for something without giving me enough to id it in
the first place


so without knowing what I am checking I can't check on it

I just gave you some of the details.

Callsigns.


Proving WHAT?

Having a MARS callsign doesn't proof you did anything with MARS or that
you Know anything about MARS

Otherwise you have to accept that MY callsign make me an expert on the
ARS


They "prove" I was a member. Further information can be gleaned
from there.


If they are yours, and If you did what you were suposed to and if
records are maintianed and IF they can be accessed


What does "The fact that I was NCOIC of MCB Camp Butler MARS and ANCOIC
of Oki Areawide MARS proves it." prove

The statement itself proves nothing.

That the USMC can validate my service does.


to what end I do believe you were military likely a marine

but what does it have to do with the callsigns


(Sheesh...)


what does it have to do with the cal signs


Markie, it's in the archives...Just like the rules you couldn't
find about the 60 meter allocations "weren't" in Part 97.


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


What in the Blue Blazes was that supposed to be...????

what you are claiming is something Id like to knwo as a matter of
record

you are confused good makes 2 of us

If I could just understand what you were writing, it would be a lot
easier.


if you would come up and make repaet the claims you claim to be proving
the rest of us could judge wether or not you had done so. but...


But nothing. Go back and read them.


go read what I can't tell which claims you claim are answered by
callsigns


YOU are confused becasue you're a lazy idiot.


prehaps, but I am confused by your refusual to says what you are
claimingwhile offering proof of a claim you refuse to repeat


I refuse to repeat all the goings-on between Brain and I for the
last 6 months.


you refuse to repeat the claim that began it, likely because it would
seem so petty that you have been carrying on about it for 6 months

after all you are still carrying on about my changing ISP's after 7
years



Ask him. Maybe he'll e-mail you the links.

I bet HIS ISP doesn't chage him $5/hr.


I had not read this yet see

You never let anything drop


Brain insists I've not had experience in MARS. I say I have, and
have provided information to corroborate it.


no you have not even if those are valid Mars Callsign (not disputing
that yet but reserving the right) proves nothing without some kind of
logs.


MARS maintains participation reports.


accessable to the public how?


By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best


No, it doesn't.


yes it does


I would hope that MARS does not keep and is not able to sort though
such trivia, (although it might be so foolish it has something to do
with the Military)


Records of previous memebers is "trivia"...???


yes

wether or not you serv and how meesages you may have passed is trivia.


BIG SNIP

Markie...If you want to participate in this exchange, why don't
you spend a day or two going back through old archives to bring
yourself up-to-speed on what's going on...?!?!

I have. the fact is you don't make anymore sense in storage than in
real time

I make far greater sense in ANY time than you do.


even granting that , you just hem and haw and refuse to answer you use
words games to point I can't follow you or find just what you are
reffering to


Because it's months and months of posts, and I'm not going to
repeat it all here when you can spend some of your daylight hours
reading it for yourself.


no it would be simple

and it matters when I read your post? what are they typed with?




Still not getting it, are you?


repating yourself does not make you turthful


Maybe YOU like "repating" yourself, Markie...


not esp, but you leave me few choices


Matter of fact, I bet that "partner" of yours is just beyond your
wrists.


More about my sex life? and you deny being obsessesed?


It would be a fact.


it would also be a fact its facthood does not alter it's status as a
claim

Learn English


I already have.


then use it


I wish YOU would.


I do


Google is the Archive of RRAP

It's not about RRAP, Markie.

yes it is

Then you're completely lost, Markie.


yes lost in your bull####


Still can't communicate without the profanity, eh?


was geting anywhere without so decided to try using it no better result
no worse either

and it is vulgarity not profanity


ENGLISH, MARKIE! Use complete sentences with proper format and
punctuation, please.


you LEARN English learn the meaning of the words Claim and Fact for a
start


Already know them.


no you don't


you tell me to look for your claims in RRAP archives then tell me it
isn't there

you use logic and plain reason


I do use logic and plain reason.


nope


YOU don't keep track of what's being said. I can't help that.


you keep changing your stories

worse than John Kerry


Know how I know, Markie?

Because I am already competent in it's use and comprehension.

You would have known that had you been too!


I just did not bother


Lazy punk...Just like I said.


right I am too lazy to dance your dance, do your work, carry your
freight


you generate so much drivel I can't afford the time to care about ####
like that


The divvel's in Michigan.


nope it is in RRAP


Nope, but that is not the exaplanation. I know as they do that to keep
the ARES folks providing what help they are you have to feed their
egos. Therefore as is their duty to Nation they are lying or if you
prefer egaeratinng the role of ARES

What was THAT spiel, Markie?

the truth as best I know it

Then you don't know what's "best", Markie.


but I know how the goverment works


No you don't.


yes I do


Just ill-prepared opinion unsubstantiated by facts.


well prepared but unsupported by any facts i have presented


You've not presented any facts.


right I said that Stevie



Why present no facts becuase you are not listening anyway


Why should I listen when this is a visual media?


since you can't seem to read thought it might help to listen


You're claiming that it's the "duty" of the Red Cross, etc etc to
LIE to the country just to validate the existance of ARES...?!?!

yes indeed

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.........

As it was the Duty of FDR to nation to tell lies about Lend lease and
cash and cary in order to ready the USA for WW2. FDR was one of the
biggest liars to hold that office, and I bless him for hoving the
courage to do his duty even if by lies and deceit


WHAT AN IDIOT!~

I reiterate....

WHAT AN IDIOT!


not at all a valid representation fo History


You're right...Nothing you've said is a valid representation of
history.


more stevie distrtion I have accurately describe FDR's terms in office


Then WHY did you lie in the first place?


did not lie


From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.

not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow

You mean the illogical type? No kidding.


no a type of logic that escapes you


It's not "logic" of ANY kind, other than chaotic.


progress boyo


Try again.

nope

Lazy punk.


narrowminded fool


Yes, you are. I stand corrected.


you are the narrow minded fool stevie


so stuck in a box that you can't even see it


You're just too lazy to spend the time.


I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in


In other words: You're just too lazy to spend the time.


No you are too lazy to do your work


Just like your rudeness to Hans. You want things one way, spoon
fed to you, and anything less is "condescending"


if you like

I am just defferent


Oh, you're "defferent", OK...


mighty generous of you


You're looking even MORE ignorant than usual!

On the otherhand, we're still waiting for the name of your
"commander", where those "unlicesed devices" play such a major role in
emergency comms, who allegedly chased the NCT's away and where they
have allegedly gone...

Thanks, Markie. Always a pleasure proving you wrong.

BUZZ worng answer you did not type that use have in that post including
it in reply when I it reamins unclear who typed does not count

Absolutely incoherent.

perfectly

Perfectly incoherent.


prefectly clear to anyone with a brain


No, it's not.


like I said elsewhere you need a brain that lest you out


I don't waste my time that way steve

Sure you do. Your whole life is a waste of time.


right at least I have a life


Uh huh..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Sacrificing chickens and using
your "Hook On Phonics" kit to hold your beer and TV Dinner.


more pagan bashing, and bile


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 16th 05 02:14 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

just what are saying you did

How can we "discuss" anything, Markie, when you are still refusing
to get help for your alleged dyslexia?

Stevie I don't need help, I could use for you cut down on the sheer
volume that would help


I do cut down on the volume.


steveie you are not cutting the volume you are incresing it


Nope. You need to go back and compare, Markie. Print some pages
off and comatre

You've not been paying attention.


I have indeed I have been giving you more attention than you deserve,
practicing my skills at dealing with narrowminded jerks (one of the big
reason for coming to RRAP these days)

but you haven't been saying much anything


Sure I have.

Big snip of Mark's excuses for "not finding" things...Maybe if we
can get Google to do it in crayon?


What an idiot.


another stevie distorion


No distortion. Pretty brief and concise, I thought.

How many do I have to say that before you understand


So you're admitting you're computer illiterate too...?!?!


nope


Sure seems like you are!

Sheesh. Are there no bounds to your limitations...?!?!

(Chew on that Mobius Loop for a while!)


Mobius has nothing do with it

you tell me to look for something without giving me enough to id it in
the first place


If you knew HOW to do a search, you'd find it. Ask Brain.

Markie, it's in the archives...Just like the rules you couldn't
find about the 60 meter allocations "weren't" in Part 97.


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


Hans found it.

I found it.

What was your problem?

By the Same Stanard the existance of MY callsign proves I know how the
NTS works, since I don't your logic seem flawed, at best


No, it doesn't.


yes it does


Nope. It just means you have a license.

MARS REQUIRES participation in a training period followed by
regular participation.

Because it's months and months of posts, and I'm not going to
repeat it all here when you can spend some of your daylight hours
reading it for yourself.


no it would be simple

and it matters when I read your post? what are they typed with?


Unlike your posts, I use my fingers. Yours appear to be done in
QLF mode.

yes lost in your bull####


Still can't communicate without the profanity, eh?


was geting anywhere without so decided to try using it no better result
no worse either

and it is vulgarity not profanity


It is profanity.

YOU don't keep track of what's being said. I can't help that.


you keep changing your stories

worse than John Kerry


No I don't.

I just did not bother


Lazy punk...Just like I said.


right I am too lazy to dance your dance, do your work, carry your
freight


No.

You're just a lazy punk.

You're right...Nothing you've said is a valid representation of
history.


more stevie distrtion I have accurately describe FDR's terms in office


No you didn't.

Then WHY did you lie in the first place?


did not lie


Sure you did.

From their statement one may infer that they recieve net benifit from
ARES but not the degree of that benifit

Completely incoherent, Markie.

not realy just expressing a type of thought you can't follow

You mean the illogical type? No kidding.

no a type of logic that escapes you


It's not "logic" of ANY kind, other than chaotic.


progress boyo


No progress, Wusso.

Try again.

nope

Lazy punk.

narrowminded fool


Yes, you are. I stand corrected.


you are the narrow minded fool stevie


Nope.

so stuck in a box that you can't even see it


Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ght.

You're just too lazy to spend the time.

I don't have a supply of time to chase down something you will not make
clear what you claim it will result in


In other words: You're just too lazy to spend the time.


No you are too lazy to do your work


No, You're just too lazy to spend the time.

right at least I have a life


Uh huh..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...Sacrificing chickens and using
your "Hook On Phonics" kit to hold your beer and TV Dinner.


more pagan bashing, and bile


Nope.

Steve, K4YZ


KØHB July 16th 05 02:55 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


I used your link set and it leads to EXACTLY the same text.

de Hans, K0HB




an_old_friend July 17th 05 03:25 AM

then you did not follow them right still get from FFC.gov to a
defferent set as well what you posted

is the end point
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...access.gpo.go=
v/cfr_2004/octqtr/47cfr97.305.htm



Subpart D_Technical Standards

Sec. 97.305 Authorized emission types.

(a) An amateur station may transmit a CW emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator.
(b) A station may transmit a test emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator for brief periods for experimental
purposes, except that no pulse modulation emission may be transmitted
on
any frequency where pulse is not specifically authorized and no SS
modulation emission may be transmitted on any frequency where SS is not

specifically authorized.
(c) A station may transmit the following emission types on the
frequencies indicated, as authorized to the control operator, subject
to
the standards specified in Sec. 97.307(f) of this part.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------

Standards see Sec. 97.307(f),
Wavelength band Frequencies Emission types authorized
paragraph:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------
MF:
160 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
160 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
HF:
80 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
75 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
40 m 7.000-7.100 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.075-7.100 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (9), (11).
40 m 7.100-7.150 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.150-7.300 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
30 m Entire band.......... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
20 m 14.00-14.15 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
20 m 14.15-14.35 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
17 m 18.068-18.110 MHz.... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
17 m 18.110-18.168 MHz.... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
15 m 21.0-21.2 MHz........ RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
15 m 21.20-21.45 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
12 m 24.89-24.93 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3).
12 m 24.93-24.99 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
10 m 28.0-28.3 MHz........ RTTY,
data........................ (4).
10 m 28.3-28.5 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (10).
10 m 28.5-29.0 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
10 m 29.0-29.7 MHz........ Phone,
image...................... (2).
VHF:
6 m 50.1-51.0 MHz........ MCW, phone, image, RTTY,
data..... (2), (5).
Do 51.0-54.0 MHz........ MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (5), (8).
test.
2 m 144.1-148.0 MHz...... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (5), (8).
test.
1.25 m 219-220 MHz..........
Data.............................. (13).
Do 222-225 MHz.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
(2), (6), (8).
test.
UHF:
70 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (6), (8).
test.
33 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
23 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test.
13 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
SHF:
9 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
5 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
3 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test.
1.2 cm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
EHF:
6 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
4 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
2.5 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
2 mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.
1mm Entire band.......... MCW, phone, image, RTTY, data,
SS, (7), (8), and (12).
test, pulse.


K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote


They are not it a text put out by the FCC if you follow one set of link
Hans then points out a Defferent links that do


I used your link set and it leads to EXACTLY the same text.


so you did not follow the same set of links

=20
de Hans, K0HB



KØHB July 17th 05 03:58 AM

"an_old_friend" wrote

then you did not follow them right


Yes, I followed them right, and got to:

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7cfr97.303.htm

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 47, Volume 5]
[Revised as of October 1, 2004]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 47CFR97.303]

[Page 602-606]

TITLE 47--TELECOMMUNICATION

CHAPTER I--FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS
COMMISSION (CONTINUED)

PART 97_AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE--Table of Contents

Subpart D_Technical Standards
..
..
..
..
..
Sec. 97.303 (s)An amateur station having an operator holding a General,
Advanced or Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single
sideband, suppressed carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on
the channels 5332 kHz, 5348 kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz.
Amateur operators shall ensure that their transmission occupies only the
2.8 kHz centered around each of these frequencies. Transmissions shall
not exceed an effective radiated power (e.r.p) of 50 W PEP. For the
purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will be multiplied with
the antenna

[[Page 606]]

gain relative to a dipole or the equivalent calculation in decibels. A
half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain of 0 dBd.
Licensees using other antennas must maintain in their station records
either manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the
antenna gain. No amateur station shall cause harmful interference to
stations authorized in the mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur
station protected from interference due to the operation of any such
station.

[54 FR 25857, June 20, 1989; 54 FR 39536, Sept. 27, 1989, as amended at
56 FR 19611, Apr. 29, 1991; 56 FR 23025, May 20, 1991; 56 FR 32518, July
17, 1991; 56 FR 40801, Aug. 16, 1991; 57 FR 40344, Sept. 3, 1992; 60 FR
15687, Mar. 27, 1995; 61 FR 15386, Apr. 8, 1996; 62 FR 9673, Mar. 3,
1997; 63 FR 42280, Aug. 7, 1998; 68 FR 33026, June 3, 2003; 69 FR 3265,
Jan. 23, 2004]




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