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And Incase Lennie Doubted that MARS and Amateur Radio are a "Service to the Nation..." MARS Chief Says Otherwise
QUOTE from Chief Army MARS:
MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Will Lennie now tell us that Chief MARS was assaulted, dragged off and drugged by ARRL PsiWar ops and forced to make this statement under duress...?!?! "I Am Laughing At The Superior Intellect" Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Will Lennie now tell us that Chief MARS was assaulted, dragged off and drugged by ARRL PsiWar ops and forced to make this statement under duress...?!?! "I Am Laughing At The Superior Intellect" Steve, K4YZ Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! |
From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm Been there, done that. :-) Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. :-) He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! :-) Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. MARS is a part of SHARES (SHAred RESources), a loose organization of 2500 U.S. government HF radio sites. It serves as a good radio liason to other government agencies now. That has been demonstrated in the SHARES/MARS exercises dubbed "Grecian Firebolt" and has been written up in the Army Communicator, a quarterly for Signal personnel (and some contractors). The M in MARS is definitely MILITARY and the A stands for AFFILIATE and not "amateur." Army MARS stations are manned by professional warfighters. Volunteer civilian units can work with those stations but only under Army control, including operations outside the ham bands, not inside them. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Rarely. With the expansion of the DSN and the Internet, troops in Afghanistan and Iraq can communicate with home directly through many of the personal computers fielded in quantity in both places...and found on larger warships...and certainly found on nearly every military post today. In many cases the military makes actual telephones available for direct talking to family and friends back home...through the DSN, through the Internet via VoIP. Such MARS activities are good for troop morale. MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. The U.S. military long ago organized their communications through planning and adapting and reformulating networks, systems, equipment to handle all the Command-Control-Communications (the first three Cs of "C4I") they need. That works. It has always worked. Been there, done that...even controlled the transmitter that FEC MARS used (on a third-priority term), one out of three dozen used for the REAL communications. All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. :-) [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] Screum. |
K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50 K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm Been there, done that. Obviously you didn't pay attention. Yet you were the one who could not be bothered with MARS information after that fateful day when you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi! And you wonder why no one believes you when you claimed to be "A" NCOIC of MARS/Okinawa. Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). They've been trying to get the smell out ever since, too. Hi! Awesome! Great comeback! Good one! Attaboy! You go, Steve! ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... You're calling the Chief of MARS as a horses' patoot, Lennie? You didn't bother to read the rest of the site? He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Was that in ChiefMARS comments? I missed it. Buffalo Soldiers no use Signal Company? Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. Jim is a very polite fellow. All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! I don't point a finger, Lennie. Battlefield injury? And it is "your error"...Proven with the comments of ChiefMARS. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. NOW I SEE! When LENNIE can quote from a website that supposedly substantiates his "position", it's "absolute truth". When it lands on his head, it's "glorious self-illumination"... Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Only a couple weeks ago you were citing from the same sources... He just said that you protested. Did you not protest? (It's OK. Say anything you want. We've got the truth meter calibrated to "Robeson" so the coil won't smoke and the needle won't get bent.) No "glorious self-illumination" comments then, eh, Lennie....?!?! The Chief's comments didn't do quite what you wanted them to do. Too bad for Steve. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. Nope..."Pretend(ing) to be the big hero" is your schtick, Lennie... Hi! Len doesn't have his chest puffed out on QRZ. Like all those posts where you pretend to have been "somebody" by having been in a unit that had KIA's a few years earlier...Years that you weren't even in the service... Of course, there were people who didn't serve at all in here telling us what is important. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...even MORE enlightenment... Again you cite things that were "THIRTY YEARS AGO", but not what's happening "TODAY"... And today, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi! How things have changed. Of course you ALSO cite what happened at "ADA" in the 50's as if it happened yesterday, but then attempt to chide Amateurs for discussing what happened SIX years ago. All Jim's postings about amateur radio in WWII cracks me up, too. Obvious. MARS is a part of SHARES...(SNIP) Yep. And that doesn't detract ONE BIT from the TITLE of the thread...Actually, it ADDS to it. Actually, I shortened it. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Is "ham-assisted phone patches" ALL that the Armed Forces expects from MARS...?!?! Nope. And Lennie wouldn't know that, considering his experience level in MARS and/or Amateur Radio. Be specific (if you can). MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. Nope. It wasn't. Who here said it was? I sure didn't. Right. You just make stoopid assertions, such as "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" because you don't know dink about MARS, your claims to having been "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa notwithstanding. All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. Nope. What I point out is that you denigrate and deny the services and achievements of MARS and Amateur Radio services alike. You denigrate other amateurs. You insult real MARS members with your stoopid assertions. ChiefMARS has to answer to higher-ups in the "MILITARY" chain of command. Duh. [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] I don't need to yell them out, Lennie. Your mistruths are usually glaring enough to stand out on their own... Your are obvious. Obviously wrong about a lot of things. LenStillDoesn'tKnowAthingAboutMARSorAmateurRadioAn Putz. Steve, K4YZ SteveStillDoesn'tKnowDinkAboutMARSorAmateurRadioK4 |
From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm
K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50 K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: Obviously you didn't pay attention. Yet you were the one who could not be bothered with MARS information after that fateful day when you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi! [a day which will live in infamy? :-) ] And you wonder why no one believes you when you claimed to be "A" NCOIC of MARS/Okinawa. Now, now, Brian, the ASSISTANT NCOIC is a very, very IMPORTANT job, a Vital Service to the Nation...for being a part of the morale boosting normally done by others in Special Services. ASSISTANTS get to make the coffee for all those late-night "communicating" sessions. Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). They've been trying to get the smell out ever since, too. Hi! Awesome! Great comeback! Good one! Attaboy! You go, Steve! Tsk. Seen better "commentary" on middle school restrooms. ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... You're calling the Chief of MARS as a horses' patoot, Lennie? You didn't bother to read the rest of the site? Stebie ain't been around horsies. Tsk, tsk. He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Was that in ChiefMARS comments? I missed it. Buffalo Soldiers no use Signal Company? The troop's buglers blew morse signals on their bugles...? Actually, there was a "horsie-talkie" radio set, the SCR-511. Went into production in late 1942. TM 11-245. (I have a copy) Unfortunately, the Army had disbanded horse cavalry before production started! :-) Nice design idea. Operator wore a "chest unit," a flat pack containing dry battery and a combo microphone-speaker with old-style telephone curved horn. Right hand held the handle at the base of the whip with a push-to-talk switch on handle, radio box below that, and at the bottom a pole that would fit the guidon socket on the right stirrup of a military saddle. Left hand was free to hold reins. It went obsolete as soon as it was delivered... Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. Jim is a very polite fellow. True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! I don't point a finger, Lennie. Battlefield injury? His "finger" was wounded in one of those "seven hostile actions." And it is "your error"...Proven with the comments of ChiefMARS. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Stebie and "Chief of Army MARS" are like this: [hold two fingers up, very far apart...] Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. NOW I SEE! When LENNIE can quote from a website that supposedly substantiates his "position", it's "absolute truth". When it lands on his head, it's "glorious self-illumination"... Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Only a couple weeks ago you were citing from the same sources... He just said that you protested. Did you not protest? (It's OK. Say anything you want. We've got the truth meter calibrated to "Robeson" so the coil won't smoke and the needle won't get bent.) It's a wonder he doesn't set fire to himself through all that patriotic bunting he puts on himself...even though his eyes are burning red with the hot embers of HATE. Flammable volatile situation. No "glorious self-illumination" comments then, eh, Lennie....?!?! The Chief's comments didn't do quite what you wanted them to do. Too bad for Steve. Stebie needs to turn in his day pass to the Halls of Montezuma. Navy MARS doesn't run under Army MARS...but both run at the discretion and direction of Department of Defense. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. Nope..."Pretend(ing) to be the big hero" is your schtick, Lennie... Hi! Len doesn't have his chest puffed out on QRZ. If I did, I'd be smiling. Still got my teeth firmly attached. And I brush every day, have regular checkups at my Russian- born dentist's office in Burbank (Dr. Leonov). :-) If Stebie got his teeth worked, maybe he'd smile and show them in one of his many photos-with-uniforms. Like all those posts where you pretend to have been "somebody" by having been in a unit that had KIA's a few years earlier...Years that you weren't even in the service... Of course, there were people who didn't serve at all in here telling us what is important. Tsk. Snarly Stebie doesn't believe in honoring past members of his unit. Thinks mentioning such is "self-glorification." Of course, Stebie's sense of "honor" is "different" than other folks. He probably goes to VA cemetaries every Memorial Day and spits on those planting the American flags at gravesites. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...even MORE enlightenment... Again you cite things that were "THIRTY YEARS AGO", but not what's happening "TODAY"... And today, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi! How things have changed. "Today" one can read (via the ARRL) what hams did for MARS of thirty years ago AS IF it were "today." :-) The Vietnam War ENDED (for the USA) THIRTY YEARS AGO. TODAY the military has the DSN to connect into the Internet, world wide. Where ever a base is even semi-permanently located, they have DSN nodes to it. When not in use by military traffic it is free for personal use. At least two national corporations offer "phone cards" low cost for Gifts to Servicemen. Pre-paid, those can be used by service personnel (here or overseas) on any telephone service, private or military. Of course you ALSO cite what happened at "ADA" in the 50's as if it happened yesterday, but then attempt to chide Amateurs for discussing what happened SIX years ago. All Jim's postings about amateur radio in WWII cracks me up, too. Obvious. Jimmie posts about ham radio in World War TWO? I thought they were posts about and prior to World War ONE! Poor Stebie. Best he ever got for military HF comms was as ASSISTANT NCOIC of a small MARS station. He never worked in the Big Time of HF military comms. MARS is a part of SHARES...(SNIP) Yep. And that doesn't detract ONE BIT from the TITLE of the thread...Actually, it ADDS to it. Actually, I shortened it. Stebie wanted to be a part of Grecian Firebolt but he couldn't get his match lit...or speak Greek. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Is "ham-assisted phone patches" ALL that the Armed Forces expects from MARS...?!?! Nope. And Lennie wouldn't know that, considering his experience level in MARS and/or Amateur Radio. Be specific (if you can). Stebie not know of the AN/FRC-93, a standard radio at MARS stations of 30 years ago. Tsk, tsk. Stebie not know of standard small-unit radio AN/PRC-119 that went operational in U.S. military in 1989...when Stebie was supposedly still in USMC. MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. Nope. It wasn't. Who here said it was? I sure didn't. Right. You just make stoopid assertions, such as "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" because you don't know dink about MARS, your clai= ms to having been "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa notwithstanding. Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. Nope. What I point out is that you denigrate and deny the services and achievements of MARS and Amateur Radio services alike. You denigrate other amateurs. You insult real MARS members with your stoopid assertions. Stebie is too full of HATE in here of others that don't care to kiss his royal (marine-issue) ass. :-) ChiefMARS has to answer to higher-ups in the "MILITARY" chain of command. Duh. Poor Stebie, took him months to acknowledge the latest Directive from the Department of Defense actually EXISTS! :-) [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] I don't need to yell them out, Lennie. Your mistruths are usually glaring enough to stand out on their own... Your are obvious. Obviously wrong about a lot of things. Stebie NEVER WRRRRONNNNNGGGG. He call all others nastynames if they say he WRRRRRONNNNNGGGGG. All the PCTA extras be big "bell ringers" in here. :-) Maybe they hope to graduate from "Ding Dong School?" :-) LenStillDoesn'tKnowAthingAbout=ADMARSorAmateurRadi oAnder...@iee=ADe= ..org Putz. Steve, K4YZ SteveStillDoesn'tKnowDinkAbout=ADMARSorAmateurRad Poor Stebie. Still resentful that I've been a professional and having begun HF radio communications before he was born. Such HATE he has. Tsk, tsk. Now he is HATING the military and MARS by not understanding what they really did as Special Services radio for the troops...30 years ago. Well, he's got all that patriotic bunting of glory and speechifying he wraps hisself in...his new "uniform." Too bad he can't show his teeth in those Very Serious Uniform Poses. [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
Hello, Len
LOL, no I didn't save Saipan. I simply made initial contact with Hans who *was* on Saipan loading a chain link fence, I believe, as the Coast Guard tower had been blown over. At that point, I was due on watch and 3 other guys took over at KG6AAY. They were the ones secured from all other duty. I went to my regular assigned job in crypto. It was the other guys who maintained communications with Rota and a number of them got citations from Captain Delaney (our commanding officer). The only reason that the Navy radiomen didn't make contact is that they didn't realize that Han's signal was so strong that it was overriding the local oscillator, thus rendering the SSB signal unreadable. Had they pulled the antenna and stuck a coat hanger in the antenna jack in the radio, they'd have had good reception. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA wrote in message ups.com... From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
Oh my, yet another version of the "Hans Is A Radio Hero" story.
Down at the Legion, they have at least five or six different versions of the story, with the best versions being told after several shot 'n beers are consumed by the grand story teller. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn, why do old men never tire of telling borrrrrrrrrrrrrring embellished war stories? 73, Sparks "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Hello, Len LOL, no I didn't save Saipan. I simply made initial contact with Hans who *was* on Saipan loading a chain link fence, I believe, as the Coast Guard tower had been blown over. At that point, I was due on watch and 3 other guys took over at KG6AAY. They were the ones secured from all other duty. I went to my regular assigned job in crypto. It was the other guys who maintained communications with Rota and a number of them got citations from Captain Delaney (our commanding officer). The only reason that the Navy radiomen didn't make contact is that they didn't realize that Han's signal was so strong that it was overriding the local oscillator, thus rendering the SSB signal unreadable. Had they pulled the antenna and stuck a coat hanger in the antenna jack in the radio, they'd have had good reception. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA wrote in message ups.com... From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
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bb wrote: wrote: Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] I can't accept his claims to have been in MARS in any capacity. The ignorance he has displayed wrt MARS is too vast. Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight. Coming from a documented chronic liar and a pathetic old man who has NO practical experience in Amateur Radio OR MARS, this is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal impressive (not).... Losers both. Steve, K4YZ |
"Sparks" wrote in message ... Oh my, yet another version of the "Hans Is A Radio Hero" story. Down at the Legion, they have at least five or six different versions of the story, with the best versions being told after several shot 'n beers are consumed by the grand story teller. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn, why do old men never tire of telling borrrrrrrrrrrrrring embellished war stories? 73, Sparks Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
Jim Hampton wrote: "Sparks" wrote in message ... Oh my, yet another version of the "Hans Is A Radio Hero" story. Down at the Legion, they have at least five or six different versions of the story, with the best versions being told after several shot 'n beers are consumed by the grand story teller. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn, why do old men never tire of telling borrrrrrrrrrrrrring embellished war stories? 73, Sparks Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. Bull**** well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Jim Hampton wrote: "Sparks" wrote in message ... Oh my, yet another version of the "Hans Is A Radio Hero" story. Down at the Legion, they have at least five or six different versions of the story, with the best versions being told after several shot 'n beers are consumed by the grand story teller. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn, why do old men never tire of telling borrrrrrrrrrrrrring embellished war stories? 73, Sparks Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. Bull**** well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA That may figure into it, but I was there and Hans did provide the communications. Anyone can spin any way they wish, but it won't affect me. I know. I was there. Bull**** well spun .... well, I can still QLF faster than a lot of folks can copy .... :)) Not that this is terribly important. I always enjoy hearing the folks with the naysaying. It cost my former employer fairly big time. Sigh ... you'd think that they would have understood when I did a project 25 years ago .... well, I did the thing again and when the plant was going to close, I simply kept it to myself. No big deal as I developed it on my time on my computer on my legal software at home :)) The problem is that if this situation is repeated many tens of thousands of times, it could be a possible problem. It may well be; I don't concern myself with that. I worry about folks that worry about others. To the selfish, I have no obligation. You do remind me, however, that I should finish the thing and offer it to a Japanese outfit for $1.00 since everyone at the former employer wanted to steal everything from me. Two $25.00 Wegman's certificates for the code I wrote to generate printer legends? And they put it on the Mexican lines? And not on the American lines? Code I largely wrote at home? I did have to laugh, however. One time I showed them how to shave over 1/2 second off cycle times (and improved that by another .7 second with mechanical adjustments - no increase in mechanical speed) and they went and tried to apply it to several other machines. They spent tens of thousands - only to get little or no improvement. I could have told them that, but I guess the young and anxious can win the arguements. However, age and treachery will win in the end :))) Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride LOL. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! Having been promoted six times in the Marines, I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! again with your genitla fixation and your mocking of my relingion as well your Langage Nazi routinue Having been promoted six times in the Marines, I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. No it shows you were playing the political game without even being bright enough to know you were doing it Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? The results obtained I try but i'll guess these of Omar Bradley (placed in his mouth in movie which he took part in making) words are not enough to convince, "I am afraid being a good soldier doesn't mean a thing. we have to be politcials, adminatraor you name it" Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! GIGO your point? Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! Having been promoted six times in the Marines, Hi! Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Above E-7? Up to E-7 you can get by on decent performance and fitness reports, awards and decs, and TIS/TIG. But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ Robber's Son hootiness began on day one and continues to this very day. |
"bb" wrote But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. Maybe in the Air Farce. In the military services you advanced based on your professional performance, demonstrated leadership record, test scores, and breadth of experience. WTF is a "benefactor"? 73, de Hans, K0HB (E9 at 17 years TIS, 3 years TIG) |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] I can't accept his claims to have been in MARS in any capacity. The ignorance he has displayed wrt MARS is too vast. Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight. Coming from a documented chronic liar and a pathetic old man who has NO practical experience in Amateur Radio OR MARS, this is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal impressive (not).... Losers both. Steve, K4YZ Steve, calling names and stretching out words with lots of extra letters lends nothing to your non-existent credibility. And you plugging into an aircraft intercom is not communications experience. I do not beleive you when you claimed having held a leadership position in MARS. Had you ever actually held such a position, you would have been given a letter of appointment. That's how its done. So show it. |
an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! again with your genitla fixation and your mocking of my relingion as well your Langage Nazi routinue There's no "genitalia fixation" or mocking of your "relingion", Mark. Did you not say you participatre in sex with men? Did you not say you are pagan? Did you not say you were allegedly drafted into the Army, then forcibly commissioned into the "chemical corps"...?!?! Your words, Markie...not mine... Having been promoted six times in the Marines, I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. No it shows you were playing the political game without even being bright enough to know you were doing it No...It shows I was doing my job in a professional and military manner. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? The results obtained I try but i'll guess these of Omar Bradley (placed in his mouth in movie which he took part in making) words are not enough to convince, "I am afraid being a good soldier doesn't mean a thing. we have to be politcials, adminatraor you name it" That's fine for flag rank officers, Markie. I was not one. Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! GIGO your point? "GIGO" is about right...Nothing but "garbage out" from Mark Morgan. THAT was my point, and you do so well substantiating it for me. Steve, K4YZ |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! Having been promoted six times in the Marines, Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Above E-7? Up to E-7 you can get by on decent performance and fitness reports, awards and decs, and TIS/TIG. But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. You mean you need to be a suck-up, don't you, Brain? Perhaps in the Weather Service of the Blue Crew, but USMC and USN promotion citeria is very specific. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ Robber's Son hootiness began on day one and continues to this very day. You misrepresent the character of a deceased honest man. Why do you do that, Brain? (Sheesh..now I AM "losing it"...I'm asking a pathological liar why he's lying...Get me beer, someone!) Steve, K4YZ |
"KØHB" wrote in message link.net... Maybe in the Air Farce. In the military services you advanced based on your professional performance, demonstrated leadership record, test scores, and breadth of experience. WTF is a "benefactor"? 73, de Hans, K0HB (E9 at 17 years TIS, 3 years TIG) You are slipping Hans. Last time you told us this sea story you made E9 in 11 years with only 4 months in grade. Which "version" are currently telling down at the Legion Hall? |
K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! again with your genitla fixation and your mocking of my relingion as well your Langage Nazi routinue There's no "genitalia fixation" or mocking of your "relingion", Mark. Your made post about my consulting Hirim Maxim via tarrot cards its tone was mocking and insulting Did you not say you participatre in sex with men? Nope I did not You went stalking over the net, and then brought it back to make an issue of. Not sure I have ever said I have had sex with men on this newsgroup. I have said thing like so what if I have etc. Otoh I may well have admitted to it when you challanged me, becuase I am not ashamed of it, but it has NO place here, and WOULD only be brought up by a Homophobic gay basher like yourself Did you not say you are pagan? No I never brought it here, You did. I simply choose not to deny it Now what does either of these to do radio Ham or otherwise Did you not say you were allegedly drafted into the Army, then forcibly commissioned into the "chemical corps"...?!?! Nope I never said iwas drafted INTO the army, you made that up from my saying I was not being allowed to leave the IRR Your words, Markie...not mine... No YOUR WORDS Having been promoted six times in the Marines, I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. No it shows you were playing the political game without even being bright enough to know you were doing it No...It shows I was doing my job in a professional and military manner. No shows you were playing the game. period Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? The results obtained I try but i'll guess these of Omar Bradley (placed in his mouth in movie which he took part in making) words are not enough to convince, "I am afraid being a good soldier doesn't mean a thing. we have to be politcials, adminatraor you name it" That's fine for flag rank officers, Markie. No it isn't Stevie it is a threat to the safety of the troops, and is a dreadfull thing I was not one. for which the nation May thank god Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! GIGO your point? "GIGO" is about right...Nothing but "garbage out" from Mark Morgan. THAT was my point, and you do so well substantiating it for me. Then your point was and remains irrelavant Steve, K4YZ |
From: "bb" on Wed 29 Jun 2005 21:01
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] I can't accept his claims to have been in MARS in any capacity. The ignorance he has displayed wrt MARS is too vast. Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight. Coming from a documented chronic liar and a pathetic old man who has NO practical experience in Amateur Radio OR MARS, this is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal impressive (not).... Losers both. Steve, K4YZ Steve, calling names and stretching out words with lots of extra letters lends nothing to your non-existent credibility. Stebie has all the charm and warmth of Godzilla on a bad hair day... And you plugging into an aircraft intercom is not communications experience. Yes, it might be...the ASSISTANT NCOIC of MARS may need to ask the chief NCOIC of MARS how to tune up a tube transmitter: "Is it peak the plate and dip the grid or the other way around?" Important, vital, radio communications to keep democracy safe in the free world...by handling H&W messages to the folks at home. I do not beleive you when you claimed having held a leadership position in MARS. Had you ever actually held such a position, you would have been given a letter of appointment. That's how its done. So show it. Stebie no gots da written orders. His word is his "bond." Of course, the bond papers haven't been filed in this court, but that is just a triviality. :-) In reality, an ASSISTANT NCOIC position might just be on the regular Morning Report of his Company. The ones actually listed for any station would be the KEY people...first the OIC, then the NCOIC. [Officer In Charge, Non-Commissioned Officer In Charge for the civilian readers] MARS doesn't normally operate IN the USA ham bands but that seems a minor technicality in here. All is pomp and circumstance and medals and titles with Stebie. In fact, Stebie seems to regard this entire newsgroup as his personal blog to carry on the endless nastygrams he sends chewing out those he no like. We no gots Stebie papers, no evidence, no proof. We all take his "word" for everything. Stebie RULES. :-) |
wrote: From: "bb" on Wed 29 Jun 2005 21:01 K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: wrote: Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] I can't accept his claims to have been in MARS in any capacity. The ignorance he has displayed wrt MARS is too vast. Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight. Coming from a documented chronic liar and a pathetic old man who has NO practical experience in Amateur Radio OR MARS, this is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal impressive (not).... Losers both. Steve, K4YZ Steve, calling names and stretching out words with lots of extra letters lends nothing to your non-existent credibility. break Stebie has all the charm and warmth of Godzilla on a bad hair day... Or on a Good hair day And you plugging into an aircraft intercom is not communications experience. Yes, it might be...the ASSISTANT NCOIC of MARS may need to ask the chief NCOIC of MARS how to tune up a tube transmitter: "Is it peak the plate and dip the grid or the other way around?" Important, vital, radio communications to keep democracy safe in the free world...by handling H&W messages to the folks at home. I do not beleive you when you claimed having held a leadership position in MARS. Had you ever actually held such a position, you would have been given a letter of appointment. That's how its done. So show it. Stebie no gots da written orders. His word is his "bond." Of course, the bond papers haven't been filed in this court, but that is just a triviality. :-) In reality, an ASSISTANT NCOIC position might just be on the regular Morning Report of his Company. The ones actually listed for any station would be the KEY people...first the OIC, then the NCOIC. [Officer In Charge, Non-Commissioned Officer In Charge for the civilian readers] MARS doesn't normally operate IN the USA ham bands but that seems a minor technicality in here. All is pomp and circumstance and medals and titles with Stebie. In fact, Stebie seems to regard this entire newsgroup as his personal blog to carry on the endless nastygrams he sends chewing out those he no like. We no gots Stebie papers, no evidence, no proof. We all take his "word" for everything. Stebie RULES. :-) Lennie don't take this the wroung way but I realy wish you were wroung about Stevie |
K=D8HB wrote: "bb" wrote But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. Maybe in the Air Farce. In the military services you advanced based on y= our professional performance, demonstrated leadership record, test scores, and breadth of experience. WTF is a "benefactor"? 73, de Hans, K0HB (E9 at 17 years TIS, 3 years TIG) A benefactor is the O-6 or preferably an O-7+ who puts on your performance report, "Definitely Promote." |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim Hampton wrote: Hardly embellished; Hans has his citation. What, might I gently ask, have you done for this country? One doesn't progress beyond E-7 by being a bullsh*t artist, you know .... :)) Really Most miliatry promotion, indeed most promotions in Government and private industry is some form of politics. BBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Spoken like a true gay pagan draftee chemical corps officer, Mark! Having been promoted six times in the Marines, Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Hi! I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Above E-7? Up to E-7 you can get by on decent performance and fitness reports, awards and decs, and TIS/TIG. But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. You mean you need to be a suck-up, don't you, Brain? You certainly do. Perhaps in the Weather Service of the Blue Crew, but USMC and USN promotion citeria is very specific. It's very specific in all services. The top grades are also political. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ Robber's Son hootiness began on day one and continues to this very day. You misrepresent the character of a deceased honest man. I was commenting on your character. But if you want to make it about your ancestors, they got that name somehow. Now you have it. You explain how they got it honestly, and provide proof. Why do you do that, Brain? (Sheesh..now I AM "losing it"... You lost it a long time ago. I'm asking a pathological liar why he's lying...Get me beer, someone!) Steve, K4YZ Bender time? |
) You misrepresent the character of a deceased honest man.
) Why do you do that, Brain? (Sheesh..now I AM "losing it"...I'm )asking a pathological liar why he's lying...Get me beer, someone!) Missed this last poitn but if you realy want to know I can tell you, because you choose to attack peoples private life, and tick em off enough tostop being polite to your family, you have only yourself and and your stalking of people, your gay bashing and genital obsession to blame )Steve, K4YZ |
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bb wrote: K=D8HB wrote: "bb" wrote But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. Maybe in the Air Farce. In the military services you advanced based on= your professional performance, demonstrated leadership record, test scores, = and breadth of experience. WTF is a "benefactor"? 73, de Hans, K0HB (E9 at 17 years TIS, 3 years TIG) A benefactor is the O-6 or preferably an O-7+ who puts on your performance report, "Definitely Promote." Sheesh...All I needed to do to get promoted was to do my job as directed. We either did our jobs and got promoted, or we didn't. No "benefactor" needed. Steve, K4YZ |
bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Not necessary. It's public record. I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Above E-7? Up to E-7 you can get by on decent performance and fitness reports, awards and decs, and TIS/TIG. But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. You mean you need to be a suck-up, don't you, Brain? You certainly do. Nope. Got promoted the Marine Corps way...I earned it. Perhaps in the Weather Service of the Blue Crew, but USMC and USN promotion citeria is very specific. It's very specific in all services. The top grades are also political. Only for the top enlisted grade representitive, ie: Sergean Major of the Marine Corps. The rest of us (in the Corps) earned ours. Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ Robber's Son hootiness began on day one and continues to this very day. You misrepresent the character of a deceased honest man. I was commenting on your character. Nope. You need an English comprehension course too, Brain. But if you want to make it about your ancestors, they got that name somehow. Now you have it. Not a liar, thief or deceitful man in the bunch. You explain how they got it honestly, and provide proof. Simple. Show me a public record showing they didn't. Why do you do that, Brain? (Sheesh..now I AM "losing it"... You lost it a long time ago. Only in expecting you to be a decent sort. You've reproven yourself to be a chronic liar. Did it today, too. I'm asking a pathological liar why he's lying...Get me beer, someone!) Bender time? Nope. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Not necessary. wrong It's public record. somewhere I can tell you that, at least for Enlisted personnel in that service, politics has NOTHING to do with it. Above E-7? Up to E-7 you can get by on decent performance and fitness reports, awards and decs, and TIS/TIG. But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. You mean you need to be a suck-up, don't you, Brain? You certainly do. Nope. yep indeed I doubt you can get as high as E-7, but that is nit picking Got promoted the Marine Corps way...I earned it. By sucking up and playing the game like everywhere else, your belief that it was just hard work showed that you were brainless or brainwashed enough to believe that crap Perhaps in the Weather Service of the Blue Crew, but USMC and USN promotion citeria is very specific. It's very specific in all services. The top grades are also political. Only for the top enlisted grade representitive, ie: Sergean Major of the Marine Corps. Sergean Major "judge not lest ye be judged" The rest of us (in the Corps) earned ours. Not according to Omar Bradley Bull#### well spun get some people very far indeed Clinton for example. That's because ALL Clinton was was a politician, so WHAT did you expect? Perhaps you'd care to share your expertise in communications. You really ought to go back to 98 and later and read some of Markie's stuff, Jim! What a HOOT! Steve, K4YZ Robber's Son hootiness began on day one and continues to this very day. You misrepresent the character of a deceased honest man. I was commenting on your character. Nope. You know what is in Brains Mind form how far away? Gee Mighty Stevie does not even need Morse Code or radio You need an English comprehension course too, Brain. But if you want to make it about your ancestors, they got that name somehow. Now you have it. Not a liar, thief or deceitful man in the bunch. Go learn about Linguatistics from the Brother Grim You explain how they got it honestly, and provide proof. Simple. Show me a public record showing they didn't. Your claim you prove it Why do you do that, Brain? (Sheesh..now I AM "losing it"... You lost it a long time ago. Only in expecting you to be a decent sort. Ok then you admit to having lost long ago Why you only admiting to it now You've reproven yourself to be a chronic liar. Did it today, too. I'm asking a pathological liar why he's lying...Get me beer, someone!) Bender time? Nope. Looks like it Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K=D8HB wrote: "bb" wrote But beyond E-7, you need an O-6+ benefactor. Maybe in the Air Farce. In the military services you advanced based = on your professional performance, demonstrated leadership record, test scores= , and breadth of experience. WTF is a "benefactor"? 73, de Hans, K0HB (E9 at 17 years TIS, 3 years TIG) A benefactor is the O-6 or preferably an O-7+ who puts on your performance report, "Definitely Promote." Sheesh...All I needed to do to get promoted was to do my job as directed. We either did our jobs and got promoted, or we didn't. No "benefactor" needed. Steve, K4YZ And you didn't. So you never got a "Definitely Promote" on your fitness/performance report? Hi! |
K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Not necessary. I merely asked for a little honesty from you. You could have sanitized sensitive information such as your SSN on posted copies of your promotion orders. It's public record. OK. Please post your full name, social security number, date of birth, branch of service, and Explicit permission to review all of your military files. Thanks, I knew you'd be a good sport. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: No "benefactor" needed. And you didn't. So you never got a "Definitely Promote" on your fitness/performance report? Not on a USMC fitness report, Brain. Or I should be more precise, not on a USMC fitness report while I was on Active Duty. They add up the OS, EX, AA, etc, make a score, then add it up. They establish a "cutting score" based upon a curve of all fitness reports for the grade sought and the needs of that OCC FIELD at that time, and you either make the cut or you don't. Steve, K4YZ |
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K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Not necessary. I merely asked for a little honesty from you. You could have sanitized sensitive information such as your SSN on posted copies of your promotion orders. Being asked for some "honesty" by you, Brain, is insulting. It's public record. OK. Please post your full name, social security number, date of birth, branch of service, and Explicit permission to review all of your military files. Thanks, I knew you'd be a good sport. That which you seek (my rank, promotions, etc) are public records without the other data. Just as are the other records I've given you information on. And the rest will be forthcoming...Right after you pony up answers to the questions that have been knocking on YOUR door for the last few YEARS. Brian P Burke is a chronic liar. It really is THAT simple. Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: No "benefactor" needed. And you didn't. So you never got a "Definitely Promote" on your fitness/performance report? Not on a USMC fitness report, Brain. Or I should be more precise, not on a USMC fitness report while I was on Active Duty. You received one after you left the service? Posthumously? They add up the OS, EX, AA, etc, make a score, then add it up. They establish a "cutting score" based upon a curve of all fitness reports for the grade sought and the needs of that OCC FIELD at that time, and you either make the cut or you don't. Steve, K4YZ Sounds familiar for the lower grades. For the top grades, there's a board. When the board members read their CINC's remark (sounds more like an order, doesn't it?), "Definitely promote," and there is a billet, the Definitely Promote gets it. |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: bb wrote: K4YZ wrote: Making that same chevron again and again doesn't count. More deceitfulness, Brain. Why do you lie so prolifically? Prove me wrong. Post each of your promotion orders. Not necessary. I merely asked for a little honesty from you. You could have sanitized sensitive information such as your SSN on posted copies of your promotion orders. Being asked for some "honesty" by you, Brain, is insulting. Shouldn't be. You earned your reputation the old-fashioned way. It's public record. OK. Please post your full name, social security number, date of birth, branch of service, and Explicit permission to review all of your military files. Thanks, I knew you'd be a good sport. That which you seek (my rank, promotions, etc) are public records without the other data. Without what other data? Just as are the other records I've given you information on. You have no MARS records. And the rest will be forthcoming... Hi! |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Just as are the other records I've given you information on. You have no MARS records. And here we have clear evidence that supports my contention that one day your kids will see what a pathological liar you've been, Brain... Assuming they didn't find out sooner anyway... Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Just as are the other records I've given you information on. You have no MARS records. And here we have clear evidence that supports my contention that one day your kids will see what a pathological liar you've been, Brain... Steve, anybody can have a MARS license and be inactive for years before finally being removed from the record for non-participation. Such a person may make claims to having held MARS calls, but should never make claims of having held a leadership position in MARS. But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and you told us that you had no letter of appointment. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Your lack of knowledge of MARS indicates that you we a. lying when you said that you held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa. and b. not lying when you said you had no letter of appointment because not having such a letter goes hand in hand with not having such a leadership position. So are you now claiming that you do have such a letter? Hi! Assuming they didn't find out sooner anyway... The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the world, and their father's role was to protect them from it. |
b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: b.b. wrote: K4YZ wrote: Just as are the other records I've given you information on. You have no MARS records. And here we have clear evidence that supports my contention that one day your kids will see what a pathological liar you've been, Brain... Steve, anybody can have a MARS license and be inactive for years before finally being removed from the record for non-participation. Such a person may make claims to having held MARS calls, but should never make claims of having held a leadership position in MARS. I didn't say I had a "leadership position in MARS"... I said I had a leadership position in a Marine Corps unit that supported the MARS program on Okinawa. But you claimed to have held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa, and you told us that you had no letter of appointment. Nope. Just my orders to MCB Camp Butler for temporary FAP duty to the MARS program. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Neither. Your lack of knowledge of MARS indicates that you we a. lying when you said that you held a leadership position in MARS/Okinawa. Nope. and b. not lying when you said you had no letter of appointment because not having such a letter goes hand in hand with not having such a leadership position. So are you now claiming that you do have such a letter? No Letter. Orders. No, I don't have a copy of my old orders. Nor do I have a copy of my orders to boot camp from the processing station, nor do I have a currrent copy of my transfer to my last duty station. But those duty stations are part of the records I've refered you to but you are too cowardly to write and find out about. Over and over. Hi! Hello yourself. If that was supposed to be laughter, just remember, we're laughing AT you, not WITH you, Brain. Assuming they didn't find out sooner anyway... The sad truth is that they'll realize that there are bad people in the world, and their father's role was to protect them from it. The sad truth is they are going to read. And read some more. At first they'll be mad at me for having taken-to-task the man they grew up loving and respecting. That's only natural and human nature. But so is curiosity. Then they'll read some more. They'll follow the crumps back to the source and they will realize that you were, indeed, a dishonest and deceitful person who showed no concern for his own reputation in public. Then they'll start looking into other activities that you may be involved in but have to date not mentioned here. No doubt they'll find more to be ashamed of. They'll always love you...they're your kids. But they'll realize you are NOT that same man. Shame on you. Steve, K4YZ |
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