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And Incase Lennie Doubted that MARS and Amateur Radio are a "Service to the Nation..." MARS Chief Says Otherwise
QUOTE from Chief Army MARS:
MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Will Lennie now tell us that Chief MARS was assaulted, dragged off and drugged by ARRL PsiWar ops and forced to make this statement under duress...?!?! "I Am Laughing At The Superior Intellect" Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Will Lennie now tell us that Chief MARS was assaulted, dragged off and drugged by ARRL PsiWar ops and forced to make this statement under duress...?!?! "I Am Laughing At The Superior Intellect" Steve, K4YZ Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! |
From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50
K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm Been there, done that. :-) Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. :-) He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! :-) Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. MARS is a part of SHARES (SHAred RESources), a loose organization of 2500 U.S. government HF radio sites. It serves as a good radio liason to other government agencies now. That has been demonstrated in the SHARES/MARS exercises dubbed "Grecian Firebolt" and has been written up in the Army Communicator, a quarterly for Signal personnel (and some contractors). The M in MARS is definitely MILITARY and the A stands for AFFILIATE and not "amateur." Army MARS stations are manned by professional warfighters. Volunteer civilian units can work with those stations but only under Army control, including operations outside the ham bands, not inside them. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Rarely. With the expansion of the DSN and the Internet, troops in Afghanistan and Iraq can communicate with home directly through many of the personal computers fielded in quantity in both places...and found on larger warships...and certainly found on nearly every military post today. In many cases the military makes actual telephones available for direct talking to family and friends back home...through the DSN, through the Internet via VoIP. Such MARS activities are good for troop morale. MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. The U.S. military long ago organized their communications through planning and adapting and reformulating networks, systems, equipment to handle all the Command-Control-Communications (the first three Cs of "C4I") they need. That works. It has always worked. Been there, done that...even controlled the transmitter that FEC MARS used (on a third-priority term), one out of three dozen used for the REAL communications. All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. :-) [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] Screum. |
K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50 K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: MARS has grown in all of the services throughout the world. It relies on civilian and military MARS members to be available in case of emergency or disaster to provide communications support. At such times, MARS needs all of the support it can provide. Amateur Radio, collectively with MARS, has made its mark in American history. Each year provides new evidence of the important role it plays in the service of the nation. UNQUOTE Since Lennie only believes that "reality" springs from URL's, he can go to: http://www.asc.army.mil/mars/history.htm Been there, done that. Obviously you didn't pay attention. Yet you were the one who could not be bothered with MARS information after that fateful day when you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi! And you wonder why no one believes you when you claimed to be "A" NCOIC of MARS/Okinawa. Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). They've been trying to get the smell out ever since, too. Hi! Awesome! Great comeback! Good one! Attaboy! You go, Steve! ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... You're calling the Chief of MARS as a horses' patoot, Lennie? You didn't bother to read the rest of the site? He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Was that in ChiefMARS comments? I missed it. Buffalo Soldiers no use Signal Company? Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. Jim is a very polite fellow. All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! I don't point a finger, Lennie. Battlefield injury? And it is "your error"...Proven with the comments of ChiefMARS. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. NOW I SEE! When LENNIE can quote from a website that supposedly substantiates his "position", it's "absolute truth". When it lands on his head, it's "glorious self-illumination"... Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Only a couple weeks ago you were citing from the same sources... He just said that you protested. Did you not protest? (It's OK. Say anything you want. We've got the truth meter calibrated to "Robeson" so the coil won't smoke and the needle won't get bent.) No "glorious self-illumination" comments then, eh, Lennie....?!?! The Chief's comments didn't do quite what you wanted them to do. Too bad for Steve. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. Nope..."Pretend(ing) to be the big hero" is your schtick, Lennie... Hi! Len doesn't have his chest puffed out on QRZ. Like all those posts where you pretend to have been "somebody" by having been in a unit that had KIA's a few years earlier...Years that you weren't even in the service... Of course, there were people who didn't serve at all in here telling us what is important. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...even MORE enlightenment... Again you cite things that were "THIRTY YEARS AGO", but not what's happening "TODAY"... And today, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi! How things have changed. Of course you ALSO cite what happened at "ADA" in the 50's as if it happened yesterday, but then attempt to chide Amateurs for discussing what happened SIX years ago. All Jim's postings about amateur radio in WWII cracks me up, too. Obvious. MARS is a part of SHARES...(SNIP) Yep. And that doesn't detract ONE BIT from the TITLE of the thread...Actually, it ADDS to it. Actually, I shortened it. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Is "ham-assisted phone patches" ALL that the Armed Forces expects from MARS...?!?! Nope. And Lennie wouldn't know that, considering his experience level in MARS and/or Amateur Radio. Be specific (if you can). MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. Nope. It wasn't. Who here said it was? I sure didn't. Right. You just make stoopid assertions, such as "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" because you don't know dink about MARS, your claims to having been "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa notwithstanding. All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. Nope. What I point out is that you denigrate and deny the services and achievements of MARS and Amateur Radio services alike. You denigrate other amateurs. You insult real MARS members with your stoopid assertions. ChiefMARS has to answer to higher-ups in the "MILITARY" chain of command. Duh. [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] I don't need to yell them out, Lennie. Your mistruths are usually glaring enough to stand out on their own... Your are obvious. Obviously wrong about a lot of things. LenStillDoesn'tKnowAthingAboutMARSorAmateurRadioAn Putz. Steve, K4YZ SteveStillDoesn'tKnowDinkAboutMARSorAmateurRadioK4 |
From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm
K4YZ wrote: wrote: From: "bb" on Wed 8 Jun 2005 15:50 K4YZ wrote: QUOTE from Chief Army MARS: Obviously you didn't pay attention. Yet you were the one who could not be bothered with MARS information after that fateful day when you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi, hi! [a day which will live in infamy? :-) ] And you wonder why no one believes you when you claimed to be "A" NCOIC of MARS/Okinawa. Now, now, Brian, the ASSISTANT NCOIC is a very, very IMPORTANT job, a Vital Service to the Nation...for being a part of the morale boosting normally done by others in Special Services. ASSISTANTS get to make the coffee for all those late-night "communicating" sessions. Been to Fort Huachuca, too, (Hq Army MARS, off to one side of the Military Intelligence School). They've been trying to get the smell out ever since, too. Hi! Awesome! Great comeback! Good one! Attaboy! You go, Steve! Tsk. Seen better "commentary" on middle school restrooms. ...to get it from the horse's mouth. Stebie got the wrong end of his "horse" again. Tsk, tsk. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... You're calling the Chief of MARS as a horses' patoot, Lennie? You didn't bother to read the rest of the site? Stebie ain't been around horsies. Tsk, tsk. He should have made some kind of remarks about the Buffalo Soldiers. Fort Huachuca is the original home of them. Was that in ChiefMARS comments? I missed it. Buffalo Soldiers no use Signal Company? The troop's buglers blew morse signals on their bugles...? Actually, there was a "horsie-talkie" radio set, the SCR-511. Went into production in late 1942. TM 11-245. (I have a copy) Unfortunately, the Army had disbanded horse cavalry before production started! :-) Nice design idea. Operator wore a "chest unit," a flat pack containing dry battery and a combo microphone-speaker with old-style telephone curved horn. Right hand held the handle at the base of the whip with a push-to-talk switch on handle, radio box below that, and at the bottom a pole that would fit the guidon socket on the right stirrup of a military saddle. Left hand was free to hold reins. It went obsolete as soon as it was delivered... Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Poor Stebie, even more brain-dead than Jim Hampton surmised. Jim is a very polite fellow. True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) All the fuss and furor over MARS was already done when Stebie's famous statement ["Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur radio"] was made. Stebie is trying to misdirect by pointing a finger at "my error." Poor guy doesn't realize that when he points his finger, four other fingers are pointing at HIM! I don't point a finger, Lennie. Battlefield injury? His "finger" was wounded in one of those "seven hostile actions." And it is "your error"...Proven with the comments of ChiefMARS. Silly Gunny, no one disputes what the Chief of Army MARS has stated. They only dispute what you claimed, "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio." Hi! Hi, hi!!! Stebie and "Chief of Army MARS" are like this: [hold two fingers up, very far apart...] Heh heh heh. Stebie CUTS AND PASTES from the government web sites! [he didn't used to like that!] However, the "statement of mission" is just worded in glorious self-illumination typical to ALL unit or political organization statements. NOW I SEE! When LENNIE can quote from a website that supposedly substantiates his "position", it's "absolute truth". When it lands on his head, it's "glorious self-illumination"... Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Only a couple weeks ago you were citing from the same sources... He just said that you protested. Did you not protest? (It's OK. Say anything you want. We've got the truth meter calibrated to "Robeson" so the coil won't smoke and the needle won't get bent.) It's a wonder he doesn't set fire to himself through all that patriotic bunting he puts on himself...even though his eyes are burning red with the hot embers of HATE. Flammable volatile situation. No "glorious self-illumination" comments then, eh, Lennie....?!?! The Chief's comments didn't do quite what you wanted them to do. Too bad for Steve. Stebie needs to turn in his day pass to the Halls of Montezuma. Navy MARS doesn't run under Army MARS...but both run at the discretion and direction of Department of Defense. Stebie wants to take all of those absolutely LITERALLY like a good little soldier. Such shining lights will reflect off the medals he bought for himself at www.grunt.com or similar. He likes to soak in that light and pretend being the big hero. Nope..."Pretend(ing) to be the big hero" is your schtick, Lennie... Hi! Len doesn't have his chest puffed out on QRZ. If I did, I'd be smiling. Still got my teeth firmly attached. And I brush every day, have regular checkups at my Russian- born dentist's office in Burbank (Dr. Leonov). :-) If Stebie got his teeth worked, maybe he'd smile and show them in one of his many photos-with-uniforms. Like all those posts where you pretend to have been "somebody" by having been in a unit that had KIA's a few years earlier...Years that you weren't even in the service... Of course, there were people who didn't serve at all in here telling us what is important. Tsk. Snarly Stebie doesn't believe in honoring past members of his unit. Thinks mentioning such is "self-glorification." Of course, Stebie's sense of "honor" is "different" than other folks. He probably goes to VA cemetaries every Memorial Day and spits on those planting the American flags at gravesites. MARS is doing an okay job for the military. Keeps civilians occupied through their volunteerism and the military hopes that will reflect good will towards the military. MARS *was* good back in the Vietnam War era for phone patches to folks back home. But...that was THIRTY YEARS AGO! [Vietnam War ended for the USA in 1975] The U.S. Army even made that direct statement on the Army's Center for Military History. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...even MORE enlightenment... Again you cite things that were "THIRTY YEARS AGO", but not what's happening "TODAY"... And today, "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" Hi! How things have changed. "Today" one can read (via the ARRL) what hams did for MARS of thirty years ago AS IF it were "today." :-) The Vietnam War ENDED (for the USA) THIRTY YEARS AGO. TODAY the military has the DSN to connect into the Internet, world wide. Where ever a base is even semi-permanently located, they have DSN nodes to it. When not in use by military traffic it is free for personal use. At least two national corporations offer "phone cards" low cost for Gifts to Servicemen. Pre-paid, those can be used by service personnel (here or overseas) on any telephone service, private or military. Of course you ALSO cite what happened at "ADA" in the 50's as if it happened yesterday, but then attempt to chide Amateurs for discussing what happened SIX years ago. All Jim's postings about amateur radio in WWII cracks me up, too. Obvious. Jimmie posts about ham radio in World War TWO? I thought they were posts about and prior to World War ONE! Poor Stebie. Best he ever got for military HF comms was as ASSISTANT NCOIC of a small MARS station. He never worked in the Big Time of HF military comms. MARS is a part of SHARES...(SNIP) Yep. And that doesn't detract ONE BIT from the TITLE of the thread...Actually, it ADDS to it. Actually, I shortened it. Stebie wanted to be a part of Grecian Firebolt but he couldn't get his match lit...or speak Greek. Does the U.S. military need ham-assisted phone patches now? Is "ham-assisted phone patches" ALL that the Armed Forces expects from MARS...?!?! Nope. And Lennie wouldn't know that, considering his experience level in MARS and/or Amateur Radio. Be specific (if you can). Stebie not know of the AN/FRC-93, a standard radio at MARS stations of 30 years ago. Tsk, tsk. Stebie not know of standard small-unit radio AN/PRC-119 that went operational in U.S. military in 1989...when Stebie was supposedly still in USMC. MARS was never designed/implemented/devised to be a PART of mainstream military communications. It isn't now. Nope. It wasn't. Who here said it was? I sure didn't. Right. You just make stoopid assertions, such as "Sorry Hans, MARS IS Amateur Radio!" because you don't know dink about MARS, your clai= ms to having been "A" NCOIC MARS/Okinawa notwithstanding. Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] All of the above I wrote today has been written by me in here before. Apparently Stebie is way too selective in what he looks for on Google searching. Nope. What I point out is that you denigrate and deny the services and achievements of MARS and Amateur Radio services alike. You denigrate other amateurs. You insult real MARS members with your stoopid assertions. Stebie is too full of HATE in here of others that don't care to kiss his royal (marine-issue) ass. :-) ChiefMARS has to answer to higher-ups in the "MILITARY" chain of command. Duh. Poor Stebie, took him months to acknowledge the latest Directive from the Department of Defense actually EXISTS! :-) [Stebie is now going to compose a "YOU LIE, YOU LIE!" message] I don't need to yell them out, Lennie. Your mistruths are usually glaring enough to stand out on their own... Your are obvious. Obviously wrong about a lot of things. Stebie NEVER WRRRRONNNNNGGGG. He call all others nastynames if they say he WRRRRRONNNNNGGGGG. All the PCTA extras be big "bell ringers" in here. :-) Maybe they hope to graduate from "Ding Dong School?" :-) LenStillDoesn'tKnowAthingAbout=ADMARSorAmateurRadi oAnder...@iee=ADe= ..org Putz. Steve, K4YZ SteveStillDoesn'tKnowDinkAbout=ADMARSorAmateurRad Poor Stebie. Still resentful that I've been a professional and having begun HF radio communications before he was born. Such HATE he has. Tsk, tsk. Now he is HATING the military and MARS by not understanding what they really did as Special Services radio for the troops...30 years ago. Well, he's got all that patriotic bunting of glory and speechifying he wraps hisself in...his new "uniform." Too bad he can't show his teeth in those Very Serious Uniform Poses. [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
Hello, Len
LOL, no I didn't save Saipan. I simply made initial contact with Hans who *was* on Saipan loading a chain link fence, I believe, as the Coast Guard tower had been blown over. At that point, I was due on watch and 3 other guys took over at KG6AAY. They were the ones secured from all other duty. I went to my regular assigned job in crypto. It was the other guys who maintained communications with Rota and a number of them got citations from Captain Delaney (our commanding officer). The only reason that the Navy radiomen didn't make contact is that they didn't realize that Han's signal was so strong that it was overriding the local oscillator, thus rendering the SSB signal unreadable. Had they pulled the antenna and stuck a coat hanger in the antenna jack in the radio, they'd have had good reception. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA wrote in message ups.com... From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
Oh my, yet another version of the "Hans Is A Radio Hero" story.
Down at the Legion, they have at least five or six different versions of the story, with the best versions being told after several shot 'n beers are consumed by the grand story teller. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn, why do old men never tire of telling borrrrrrrrrrrrrring embellished war stories? 73, Sparks "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... Hello, Len LOL, no I didn't save Saipan. I simply made initial contact with Hans who *was* on Saipan loading a chain link fence, I believe, as the Coast Guard tower had been blown over. At that point, I was due on watch and 3 other guys took over at KG6AAY. They were the ones secured from all other duty. I went to my regular assigned job in crypto. It was the other guys who maintained communications with Rota and a number of them got citations from Captain Delaney (our commanding officer). The only reason that the Navy radiomen didn't make contact is that they didn't realize that Han's signal was so strong that it was overriding the local oscillator, thus rendering the SSB signal unreadable. Had they pulled the antenna and stuck a coat hanger in the antenna jack in the radio, they'd have had good reception. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA wrote in message ups.com... From: bb on Jun 27, 7:39 pm True. He saved Saipan once and told that story many times. :-) [IEEE is a professional association...I am a Life Member] |
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bb wrote: wrote: Stebie is very, very busy trying to light his match to blaze hisself in the glory and majesty (his idea) of MARS-manship. [ASSISTANTS get like that some times...] I can't accept his claims to have been in MARS in any capacity. The ignorance he has displayed wrt MARS is too vast. Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight. Coming from a documented chronic liar and a pathetic old man who has NO practical experience in Amateur Radio OR MARS, this is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal impressive (not).... Losers both. Steve, K4YZ |
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