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June 9th 05, 12:41 AM
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From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm
You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times must be tough... http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1 John -- Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right before my eyes--in real time! Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing? Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-) They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing only what they want to believe. As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members. That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from QST advertising webpage] Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence in the percentage of League membership. :-) [we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their rage against those who defile 'their' organization...] |
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#2
June 9th 05, 01:21 AM
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Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers
are in good and technical company... Warmest regards, John wrote in message oups.com... From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times must be tough... http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1 John -- Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right before my eyes--in real time! Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing? Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-) They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing only what they want to believe. As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members. That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from QST advertising webpage] Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence in the percentage of League membership. :-) [we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their rage against those who defile 'their' organization...] |
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#3
June 9th 05, 02:01 AM
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Bet the pilots among them know Morse.
Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are in good and technical company... Warmest regards, John wrote in message oups.com... From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times must be tough... http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1 John -- Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right before my eyes--in real time! Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing? Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-) They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing only what they want to believe. As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members. That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from QST advertising webpage] Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence in the percentage of League membership. :-) [we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their rage against those who defile 'their' organization...] |
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June 9th 05, 02:07 AM
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Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John "Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message nk.net... Bet the pilots among them know Morse. Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are in good and technical company... Warmest regards, John wrote in message oups.com... From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times must be tough... http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1 John -- Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right before my eyes--in real time! Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing? Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-) They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing only what they want to believe. As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members. That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from QST advertising webpage] Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence in the percentage of League membership. :-) [we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their rage against those who defile 'their' organization...] |
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#5
June 9th 05, 03:12 AM
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"John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who gave their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know several people who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take the test again but continue to work diligently to get up to both conversational and contest speeds. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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June 9th 05, 03:13 AM
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.... as always, there will be exceptions to ANY rule... I think both
Haynie and I would be surprised if this becomes anywhere near a "remarkable" number... John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who gave their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know several people who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take the test again but continue to work diligently to get up to both conversational and contest speeds. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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#7
June 9th 05, 10:28 PM
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And your speed is what "John Smith". What makes you qualified to even
comment on this? Do you operate on CW? Save you the time. Your a big mouth know nothing about the subject. Damn...it may be Lennie. Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... ... as always, there will be exceptions to ANY rule... I think both Haynie and I would be surprised if this becomes anywhere near a "remarkable" number... John "Dee Flint" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who gave their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know several people who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take the test again but continue to work diligently to get up to both conversational and contest speeds. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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#8
June 9th 05, 03:50 AM
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"John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Hello, John There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor am I talking a leisurely 30 words per minute. Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college grads tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs, I'm sure. Enron and the like). I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85 watts. That might prove interesting. All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is the best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why worry? It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all would agree. May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly?  73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
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#9
June 9th 05, 03:56 AM
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I don't think there is a ham alive which can beat my keyboard, hooked to
a "electronic key" and sending morse, nor my sound card doubling as a "code reader" and producing text on screen from cw... You mean to tell me people actually use "real keys" still--gawd, I thought all those sk tongue-in-cheek Warmest regards, John "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Hello, John There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor am I talking a leisurely 30 words per minute. Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college grads tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs, I'm sure. Enron and the like). I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85 watts. That might prove interesting. All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is the best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why worry? It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all would agree. May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly? 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
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#10
June 9th 05, 10:30 PM
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A keyboard and a morse reader.....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH !!!!!
Dan/W4NTI "John Smith" wrote in message ... I don't think there is a ham alive which can beat my keyboard, hooked to a "electronic key" and sending morse, nor my sound card doubling as a "code reader" and producing text on screen from cw... You mean to tell me people actually use "real keys" still--gawd, I thought all those sk tongue-in-cheek Warmest regards, John "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams... The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and modem... John Hello, John There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor am I talking a leisurely 30 words per minute. Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college grads tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs, I'm sure. Enron and the like). I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85 watts. That might prove interesting. All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is the best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and receive cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why worry? It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all would agree. May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly? 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
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