Bet the pilots among them know Morse.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those no-code'ers are
in good and technical company...

Warmest regards,
John
wrote in message
oups.com...
From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm

You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these guys--times
must be tough...

http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1

John
--
Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality, right
before my eyes--in real time!
Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing?

Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-)

They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing
only what they want to believe.

As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members.
That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from
QST advertising webpage]

Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams
actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence
in the percentage of League membership. :-)

[we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their
rage against those who defile 'their' organization...]

Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and
modem...

John
"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
nk.net...
Bet the pilots among them know Morse.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Well, all the astronauts are no code techs... guess those
no-code'ers are in good and technical company...

Warmest regards,
John
wrote in message
oups.com...
From: John Smith on Jun 8, 5:50 pm

You would think the ARRL high priest would not abandon these
guys--times
must be tough...

http://www.arrl.org/news/stori?es/2004/05/22/1/?nc=1

John
--
Watching the cutting edge of yesterday replay--in virtual reality,
right
before my eyes--in real time!
Thirty year old technology--wasn't it amazing?

Tsk. It took the League long enough to see the "duhhhh..." :-)

They've had adequate numbers all along. They've been seeing
only what they want to believe.

As of the end of 2004 the League had only 140 thousand members.
That's about 20 percent of all U.S. amateur licensees. [from
QST advertising webpage]

Haynie has said that a "survey" showed fully 1 in 5 hams
actually got on the air? Oh, my, a remarkable coincidence
in the percentage of League membership. :-)

[we now pause to have all loyal league believers vent their
rage against those who defile 'their' organization...]

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be speaking
morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the extra
license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and
modem...

John

Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who gave
their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know several people
who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take the test again but
continue to work diligently to get up to both conversational and contest
speeds.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

.... as always, there will be exceptions to ANY rule... I think both
Haynie and I would be surprised if this becomes anywhere near a
"remarkable" number...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants
and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and
youthful hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone
and modem...

John

Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who
gave their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know
several people who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take
the test again but continue to work diligently to get up to both
conversational and contest speeds.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

And your speed is what "John Smith". What makes you qualified to even
comment on this? Do you operate on CW? Save you the time. Your a big
mouth know nothing about the subject. Damn...it may be Lennie.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as always, there will be exceptions to ANY rule... I think both
Haynie and I would be surprised if this becomes anywhere near a
"remarkable" number...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and
modem...

John

Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who gave
their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know several people
who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take the test again but
continue to work diligently to get up to both conversational and contest
speeds.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
And your speed is what "John Smith". What makes you qualified to even
comment on this? Do you operate on CW? Save you the time. Your a big
mouth know nothing about the subject. Damn...it may be Lennie.

Dan/W4NTI

He's a cber, couldn't copy code if his life depended upon it.

.... I think anyone not agreeing with you is a "chicken bander" and
"troll", now surely you must agree!

John

"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
And your speed is what "John Smith". What makes you qualified to
even comment on this? Do you operate on CW? Save you the time.
Your a big mouth know nothing about the subject. Damn...it may be
Lennie.

Dan/W4NTI

He's a cber, couldn't copy code if his life depended upon it.

I learned code to get my license, never since--I live what I claim is
fact...

.... if I do code it is though an automatic key and keyboard and
cw-to-text reader, all of my own design and construction... being a
software engineer I really enjoy hardware projects, experimentation and
antenna construction--I never get to get my hands dirty in the "real
world."

John

"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
ink.net...
And your speed is what "John Smith". What makes you qualified to even
comment on this? Do you operate on CW? Save you the time. Your a
big mouth know nothing about the subject. Damn...it may be Lennie.

Dan/W4NTI

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
... as always, there will be exceptions to ANY rule... I think both
Haynie and I would be surprised if this becomes anywhere near a
"remarkable" number...

John

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their
rants and name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and
youthful hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get
the extra license... then you will never see them again--except on
phone and modem...

John

Not so. I've worked several licensees in the CW November Sweeps who
gave their year of license as 2000 and AFTER. I currently know
several people who have passed their 5wpm so they never have to take
the test again but continue to work diligently to get up to both
conversational and contest speeds.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone and
modem...

John


Hello, John

There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster than a
lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor am I
talking a leisurely 30 words per minute.

Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college grads
tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs, I'm
sure. Enron and the like).

I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85 watts.
That might prove interesting.

All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to
mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is the
best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and receive
cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why worry?
It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all would
agree.

May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly?


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA

I don't think there is a ham alive which can beat my keyboard, hooked to
a "electronic key" and sending morse, nor my sound card doubling as a
"code reader" and producing text on screen from cw...
You mean to tell me people actually use "real keys" still--gawd, I
thought all those sk tongue-in-cheek

Warmest regards,
John
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Morse is a ghost language spoken by old men when they do their rants
and
name their illnesses--much to the dismay of the vital and youthful
hams...

The new 5 WPM test for all classes will guarantee you will NOT be
speaking morse to any young men--they will pass the 5 WPM to get the
extra license... then you will never see them again--except on phone
and
modem...

John


Hello, John

There are more than a few folks that can send and receive cw faster
than a
lot of folks can type. I am not talking 20 words per minute here, nor
am I
talking a leisurely 30 words per minute.

Of course, cut and paste doesn't count (and I've had a few college
grads
tell me that is how they did some of "their" papers LOL. Future CEOs,
I'm
sure. Enron and the like).

I'd be interested in an SSB contact on 24 GHz via moonbounce. 85
watts.
That might prove interesting.

All said and done, there are modes that can do it better (PSK comes to
mind) - but most won't and cw is one that can. It doesn't mean it is
the
best, but ... again ... there are a number of ops that can send and
receive
cw faster than a lot of folks can type. And if some enjoy it, why
worry?
It is like arguing that country-western music is terrible. Not all
would
agree.

May I assume that you cut and paste very quickly?


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA