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June 11th 05, 10:22 PM
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K=D8HB wrote:
"bb" wrote Your strangle hold on the amateur service may not end until the actuarial tables kick in, but they will end. Jim has a "strangle hold" on ham radio? That claim is incorrect. Gee, I didn't know! Me neither. Hey, Jim --- loosen up and let me breathe! ;-) It seems very odd that I'd be accused of having a stranglehold in a thread where all I did was post people's opinions about when FCC would drop Element 1. If it were up to me, all amateur radio licenses would require at least a 5 wpm code test. And they'd all have better (not harder) written tests too. But it's not up to me. So I'll continue to give FCC my thoughts, ideas and opinions on the issues, and my reasons behind them. Maybe FCC will agree, maybe not. Hardly a "stranglehold". Just democracy in action.=20 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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June 12th 05, 02:44 PM
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#3
June 12th 05, 03:19 PM
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bb wrote: wrote: It seems very odd that I'd be accused of having a stranglehold in a thread where all I did was post people's opinions about when FCC would drop Element 1. I've learned that people's opinions are now assertions of fact. As assertions of fact, they are either right or wrong, truthful or intentionally decitful (lies). At the end of the day, you either had a right opinion, or you lied. You have Robeson to thank for that. The problem, Brain, is that you don't learn when to express your opinon AS an opinion, and when to express something as an assertion. You STATED that "...the role of the ARES is overblown..", yet the very day you did it there were no less than three new items on various sites about third-party agencies lauding ARES volunteers. You then also STATED that ARES will not be able to respond because, allegedly, too many of the members are over extended on commitments. I've asked you over and over to provide some substantiation of those comments, but you simply dodge the questions. So either way you look at it, you're wrong. You are either so blissfully ignorant of the enviroment you're in that it manifests as "stupid", or you're intentionally being deceitful, in which case you're the liar I have claimed you to be. In either case, you're the loser. Oh well. Steve, K4YZ |
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#5
June 11th 05, 09:11 PM
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John Smith wrote: ... the writing is on the wall, the figures are good enough for a mathematician to hold as truth, the president of ARRL and FCC knows it... still, denial is a powerful thing... John I never once considered the actuarial tables as something to look forward to, but the ARS has changed all that for me. Now the actuarial tables are to be celebrated. Change will come to the ARS, eventually. |
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#6
June 11th 05, 09:21 PM
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Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool.
Note how almost everyone's date, including mine, has already passed: WA2SI: September 13, 2003 KF6TPT: September 29, 2003 KC8EPO: December 31, 2003 K2UNK: January 1, 2004 K2ASP: March 15, 2004 AA2QA: April 1, 2004 N2EY: April 15, 2004 N3KIP: May 1, 2004 (first prediction) KC8PMX: July 1, 2004 WA2ISE: August 1, 2004 K3LT: September 15, 2004 WK3C: December 30, 2004 N4PGW: May 22, 2005 N8UZE: July 1, 2005 N3KIP: December 31, 2005 (second prediction) AB2RC: July 1, 2007 KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 W5TIT: June 1, 2008 Anybody want to add a prediction? If so, the "rolling rule" (thanks Dee, N8UZE) applies: If your prediction on this list is a year or more in the past, you can add a new one. At this point everyone before N3KIP can add a new prediction. All predictions stay on the list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#7
June 14th 05, 12:50 AM
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Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool.
Note how almost everyone's date, including mine, has already passed: WA2SI: September 13, 2003 KF6TPT: September 29, 2003 KC8EPO: December 31, 2003 K2UNK: January 1, 2004 (first prediction) K2ASP: March 15, 2004 AA2QA: April 1, 2004 N2EY: April 15, 2004 N3KIP: May 1, 2004 (first prediction) KC8PMX: July 1, 2004 WA2ISE: August 1, 2004 K3LT: September 15, 2004 WK3C: December 30, 2004 N4PGW: May 22, 2005 N8UZE: July 1, 2005 N3KIP: December 31, 2005 (second prediction) K2UNK: July 1, 2006 (second prediction) AB2RC: July 1, 2007 KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 W5TIT: June 1, 2008 Anybody want to add a prediction? If so, the "rolling rule" (thanks Dee, N8UZE) applies: If your prediction on this list is a year or more in the past, you can add a new one. At this point everyone before N3KIP can add a new prediction. All predictions stay on the list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#8
June 24th 05, 12:29 AM
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Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool.
Note how almost everyone's date, including mine, has already passed: WA2SI: September 13, 2003 (first prediction) KF6TPT: September 29, 2003 KC8EPO: December 31, 2003 K2UNK: January 1, 2004 (first prediction) K2ASP: March 15, 2004 AA2QA: April 1, 2004 N2EY: April 15, 2004 N3KIP: May 1, 2004 (first prediction) KC8PMX: July 1, 2004 WA2ISE: August 1, 2004 K3LT: September 15, 2004 WK3C: December 30, 2004 N4PGW: May 22, 2005 N8UZE: July 1, 2005 N3KIP: December 31, 2005 (second prediction) K2UNK: July 1, 2006 (second prediction) AB2RC: July 1, 2007 KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 W5TIT: June 1, 2008 WA2SI: Complete elimination not within the foreseeable future (second prediction) Anybody want to add a prediction? If so, the "rolling rule" (thanks Dee, N8UZE) applies: If your prediction on this list is a year or more in the past, you can add a new one. At this point everyone before and including N4PGW can add a new prediction. All predictions stay on the list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#9
June 11th 05, 10:45 PM
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Frankly, I wonder of the sanity of the manufacturers of ham equip...
If they are interesting in selling radios, making a profit in the American tradition, etc... seems they would be taking their dollars and lobbying congress... John wrote in message ups.com... Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool. Note how almost everyone's date, including mine, has already passed: WA2SI: September 13, 2003 KF6TPT: September 29, 2003 KC8EPO: December 31, 2003 K2UNK: January 1, 2004 K2ASP: March 15, 2004 AA2QA: April 1, 2004 N2EY: April 15, 2004 N3KIP: May 1, 2004 KC8PMX: July 1, 2004 WA2ISE: August 1, 2004 K3LT: September 15, 2004 WK3C: December 30, 2004 N4PGW:May 22, 2005 N8UZE: July 1, 2005 AB2RC: July 1, 2007 KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 W5TIT: June 1, 2008 Anybody want to add a prediction? If so, the "rolling rule" (thanks Dee, N8UZE) applies: If your prediction on this list is a year or more in the past, you can add a new one. At this point N3KIP and everyone before him can add a new prediction. All predictions stay on the list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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#10
June 11th 05, 10:47 PM
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interesting = interested even...
I give up, the typos just spring forth from my fingers... frown John "John Smith" wrote in message ... Frankly, I wonder of the sanity of the manufacturers of ham equip... If they are interesting in selling radios, making a profit in the American tradition, etc... seems they would be taking their dollars and lobbying congress... John wrote in message ups.com... Here's an update on the "when will FCC drop Element 1?" pool. Note how almost everyone's date, including mine, has already passed: WA2SI: September 13, 2003 KF6TPT: September 29, 2003 KC8EPO: December 31, 2003 K2UNK: January 1, 2004 K2ASP: March 15, 2004 AA2QA: April 1, 2004 N2EY: April 15, 2004 N3KIP: May 1, 2004 KC8PMX: July 1, 2004 WA2ISE: August 1, 2004 K3LT: September 15, 2004 WK3C: December 30, 2004 N4PGW:May 22, 2005 N8UZE: July 1, 2005 AB2RC: July 1, 2007 KB3EIA: July 5, 2007 W5TIT: June 1, 2008 Anybody want to add a prediction? If so, the "rolling rule" (thanks Dee, N8UZE) applies: If your prediction on this list is a year or more in the past, you can add a new one. At this point N3KIP and everyone before him can add a new prediction. All predictions stay on the list. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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