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June 16th 05, 05:35 PM
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#112
June 16th 05, 05:36 PM
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John Smith wrote: Kelly: Yep. Personal attacks, don't discuss what is not in your personal self-interests. Call those with differing ideas a troll, deny a problem exists, etc, etc, etc... Gee, where have I seen this behavior before... John (yawn) Zzzzzz . . . |
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#114
June 16th 05, 08:03 PM
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#115
June 16th 05, 08:09 PM
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:24:54 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:
Wait 'till they hit the course or assignment that throws them back into the mortal realm. We've all hit that point at one time or another.... And it's a real shock the first time it happens. Can you say grad school "Advanced Atomic Physics" ? ggg -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
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#116
June 16th 05, 08:28 PM
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:03:51 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
How many women get their pilots license as compared to men? I don't know. I'll have to ask our friend Jane who owns and flys her own air taxi service.... Ever go to a quilting meeting? How many men did you see there? Quilting, I have no idea. I do know that our friend Paul is one of the better local crochet artists - he does specialty work such as Jewish skullcaps with intricate designs and teaches same at local congregations. Ever go to an antique radio swap meet? You will find a lot more men collecting and fixing old radios than women. One of the more prominent collectors and restorers of WW-II-era military radios is a woman - who is also the communications chief for one of the major California cities. Do you collect dolls, tea sets, china dishes? No? Lots of women do. As do most of the dealers in that field, who are overwhelmingly male. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
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#117
June 16th 05, 08:31 PM
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:11:41 GMT, robert casey wrote:
Perhaps what bothers some people the most about the code test is that it isn't something most people already know. And it isn't something that can be learned by reading a book, watching a video, etc. It's a skill, not "book learning". That makes it a real PITA to people who are good at book learnin' and not so hot at motor skills. Those are the same people who get As in Chemistry but Ds in Chem Lab..... -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane |
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#118
June 16th 05, 09:49 PM
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- Not all Technicians are "nocodetest". The FCC has been renewing all Technician and Technician Plus licenses as Technician for more than 5 years, and in less than 5 more years there will be no more Technician Pluses at all, because they will all have either expired or been renewed as Technicians. In that same time period, Novices who pass Element 2 get Technician licenses, not Technician Pluses. And any Technician who passes Element 1 is still shown as Technician on the database. I used to be an "old" tech plus. Partly to avoid the above ambiguity I upgraded. Could have just got a paperwork only upgrade to general, but decided to go for extra. |
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#119
June 16th 05, 10:11 PM
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John Smith wrote: Kelly: Yep. I think you are unaware that some of us out here have our licenses, got our radios fired up, tune the bands--and it is nothing but the same old, same old... We do see all the rag chews, boring rants, same operators, same gripes, same rants, same little groups, same ideas, same conversations as yesterday--day, after day, after day... I am sure a lot of 'em are sitting there waiting for us poor ignorant ops to "get with it" and "come to the realization" of just how vital and interesting this all is and SHOULD BE to us... Well I am one which does not and cannot appreciate it... if the fault lies with me and my interests and views--so be it... If I am wrong and all these young guys just can't wait to get a license and startup a QSO so they hear these old guys fart and rant--well, that is just a short coming of mine--and, those young dynamic guys who are running the world right now and providing new ideas, designs and methods are probably on the way here right now to find the old farts.... I'll just sit here and wait for 'em, I need a change... maybe I can chat with one or two of 'em--if they can quit their hero worship of you guys long enough... grin Dayum "John", YEAH, absolutely, boycott RRAP, refuse to post again until the thirtysometings roll in! All in favor say aye . . ? John wrote in message oups.com... Mike Coslo wrote: wrote: Michael Coslo wrote: . . . The ham was Gene Reynolds W3EAN who went out of his way to answer my unending stream of questions that night. I probably drove him nuts but I think he enjoyed it. There was no turning back after that night, I was gonna become a ham. I enjoyed the story, Brian. I've enjoyed the whole trip Michael. But I gotta break in here. What you have described is the real reason that people become hams. You were bitten by the bug, and it sounds like no one was going to stop you from becoming one. Yessir that's about right certainly in my case. I too was hooked early in life, although it took a long time to finally get my ticket. I'm just P****d that I didn't get it years earlier. Sorry about the previous rant but once in awhile somebody around here bumps my babble button and there I go again . . You bumped the bloomin' button again Coslo. Rant Mode = ON I didn't exactly leap toward the FCC office to take the test either, far from it. One problem being that I had a number of other interests too like photography, Boy Scouts, model railroading and GIRLS. They all absobred my time and what little money I could scrounge via paper routes and such. While my folks cheerfully funded Scouting they did not fund any of my other hot buttons. Probably because they knew I'd drive them broke if they did. They did encourage my pursuit of ham radio though, I guess they thought it had educatinal value and it kept me off the streets and outta trouble. The latter didn't work very well though. I never had an Elmer, I had no idea how to connect with a ham club when I was 10-12 so I scrounged books and magazines about ham radio and tuned the bands with my junk radios. When I finally got to high school I found a bunch of hams and and "the rest is history". Took me about five years to go from my encounter with W3EAN to passing the Novice test and getting on the air with it. Which was in a much different regime than we have today. The Novice license was a stick and carrot ticket with the emphasis on the stick. We had 365 days from the date the license was issued to upgrade to a 13WPM General or get booted out of ham radio. Of the dozens of local Novices I knew I don't recall of any who failed to upgrade or bitched about the code tests. I think I'm very typical of the kids who got into the hobby back then and there were great heaps of us. The adults who took up ham radio back then were a different story, they had the money and they had control of their lives which us kids did not have. Net result today is that us kids from back then are obviously the grouchy old farts of today and almost universally have disdain to one degree or another for the current state of affairs in the giveaway requirements for licensing. It's not that we're mentally frozen in time at all, that's 100% BS. It's because we've been there and done it all and we know what works and what does not given the fact that except for the current licensing nonsense ham radio hasn't changed nearly as much as many would try to have us believe. Fuhgeddit, we see right thru it. Im convinced that events in the future will prove us right. Today we have a "bloat the numbers at any cost" game which is doomed to backfire eventually. The big question is how badly it will backfire and how much damage will have been be done before it happens. The history of this country over last couple decades is chock full of eamples of backing away from failed giveaways. It's only a matter of time until ham radio gets it's turn. Whew: Got that one out of my system too. Thanks Mike. The idea of "recruiting" people into the ARS is likely never going to work - at least as far as snagging people that are thinking about a hobby, but don't know what to pick up. I agree right down the line. You can't "recruit" anybody into a hobby unless some kernel of interest already exists in the mind of the "target" and even then it's a dicey proposition in most cases. It's like trying to herd cats, doesn't work. The best we can do is toss out PR to raise the awareness of ham radio and let the chips fall where they might. The League is in the right direction in this respect. If you wanna be a Ham - you *know* it. Yupper but how one gets there varies hugely to the point where all 670,000 of us have probably taken 300,000 different routes. Compare the way Dee got into the hobby vs. my route. How different can they get?! A local oldster was inquiring as to when his license expired, because he couldn't find his F.C.C. Wallpaper. We help him figure it out. We need to keep the geezers on the air. I love talking to them. I hope someone is looking out for me when I'm 91! They're all treasures we have a responsibilty to protect. Often from themselves. Heh. - Mike KB3EIA - w3rv |
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#120
June 16th 05, 10:18 PM
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Phil:
My gawd, the bands are crawling with them, there must be heavy congestion somewhere with 'em all trying to communicate... I think my radio has stopped working--can't find a one--heck, perhaps some chauvinist engineer designed this piece of junk and it would pass female voices though the audio stages--SOMETHING IS WRONG!!! John "Phil Kane" wrote in message ganews.com... On 15 Jun 2005 17:01:18 -0700, wrote: In all my 43 years in engineering I've met a grand total of four woman engineers, two MEs, one EE and a Chem E. In my 50 years in engineering I've =dated= more women engineers than you seem to have met, was engaged to one (nuclear engineer) and married another (EE). In my wife's office alone there are more than 4 =PEs= on her floor, including the chief of the structural engineering section (imagine that, a lady tower engineer). Had my wife gone through the paperwork as she talked about twenty years ago she, too, would have been a PE. Our contesting club alone has three female members, an old girlfriend is a ham and I met W3CUL. Out of Lord only knows how many engineers and hams I've met over the years. In our club, the largest radio club in the state if not in the Pacific Northwest, about 1/3 of the hams are women, and of them, about half are active on the air in some fashion or other. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon |
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