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K4YZ July 4th 05 06:21 PM

And You Wonder Why I Consider KB9RQZ An Idiot...?!?!
 
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you


Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite precisely=

.. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?


All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.


"...not in vogue..."

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH=
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA=
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
! ! ! ! ! !

And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....

BBBWWWWWHHWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH=
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA=
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

73, de Hans, K0HB


73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect


And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 4th 05 07:06 PM

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite precise=

ly. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?


All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.


"...not in vogue..."


all true


crying cut for formating improvements
And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....


indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads




crying cut for formating improvements
! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

73, de Hans, K0HB


73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect


And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!


which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement


"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!


thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot,

well then Hoist you idiot

=20
Steve, K4YZ



b.b. July 4th 05 10:52 PM



K4YZ wrote:

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
! ! ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ


Not really, Steve. We just wonder why you pay any attention in the
first place, then find it necessary to comment? I'm sure that in your
sick mind, you can justify it somehow. Best of luck getting back to
normal.


K4YZ July 5th 05 07:41 PM



an_old_friend wrote:

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot


You finally got one thing right this week...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite preci=

sely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.


"...not in vogue..."


all true


Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.

crying cut for formating improvements


You cut yourself out? Why?

And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....


indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads


It's not a personal attack, Mark. It's a professional
observation.

You have a problem with English. You're not very proficient at
it.

crying cut for formating improvements


Snipped more embarrassing stuff, you mean...

73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect


And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!


which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement


No...not "...even if true..."

It's absolutely true.

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!


thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot


No...YOU calling Hans "snide" for having the temerity to actually
think he was doing you a favor by answering your question for you in an
accurate and prompt manner makes you an idiot.

well then Hoist you idiot


Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!

Some gay pagan salute?

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ July 5th 05 07:44 PM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA
! ! ! ! ! !

Steve, K4YZ


Not really, Steve. We just wonder why you pay any attention in the
first place, then find it necessary to comment? I'm sure that in your
sick mind, you can justify it somehow. Best of luck getting back to
normal.


Feeling left out, Brain..?!?!

Suddenly realize you're not the ONLY chronic liar and newsgroup
ner'-do-well requiring attention?

Why don't you and Lennie keep each other back-channel-happy for a
while...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 5th 05 08:41 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot


You finally got one thing right this week...


Mighty white of you old man


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite pre=

cisely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.

"...not in vogue..."


all true


Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.


not a question about alph numeric mode codes in my question pool

The only even mention was mode A1A Morse encoded CW, and that was only
as an aside in Gordon book that I used to prepare for it

and No suchare even mention in the current Tech pool

If you think it should you shouldaddress your coments to the NVEC


crying cut for formating improvements


You cut yourself out? Why?


nop cut out your crying

And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....


indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads


It's not a personal attack, Mark. It's a professional
observation.


Nope a BIG lie for an ER nurse, not your feild


You have a problem with English. You're not very proficient at
it.


but your coment that I am more proficent in Sebian is a lie


crying cut for formating improvements


Snipped more embarrassing stuff, you mean...


Nope just one of your crying


73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect

And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!


which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement


No...not "...even if true..."


yes even if true

You are the close to most narrowminded idoit haolding a Ham license. Yo
Doc was the worst I know of


It's absolutely true.


nope

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!


thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot


No...YOU calling Hans "snide" for having the temerity to actually
think he was doing you a favor by answering your question for you in an
accurate and prompt manner makes you an idiot.


Well he amswered some OTHER question not mine and not one tht had been
asked


well then Hoist you idiot


Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!


yes aren't well enough educated


Some gay pagan salute?


Nope

and more of your gaybashing

more of your pagan bashing
=20
Steve, K4YZ



John Smith July 5th 05 09:09 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
First none wonders why you consider me an idiot

Ever lived in Canada?



Jim Hampton July 5th 05 10:06 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot


You finally got one thing right this week...


Mighty white of you old man


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

I'd guess for your answer that Morse encoded Cw isn't
allowed but you I guess answering a question si too much
for you

Hey Dump Huck, I did answer your question, and I did so quite

precisely. As a
licensed amateur, what part of "2K8J3E" don't you understand?

All of it. tht sort of usage is not in vogue, nor is it in english.

"...not in vogue..."


all true


Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.


not a question about alph numeric mode codes in my question pool

The only even mention was mode A1A Morse encoded CW, and that was only
as an aside in Gordon book that I used to prepare for it

and No suchare even mention in the current Tech pool

If you think it should you shouldaddress your coments to the NVEC


crying cut for formating improvements


You cut yourself out? Why?


nop cut out your crying

And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....


indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads


It's not a personal attack, Mark. It's a professional
observation.


Nope a BIG lie for an ER nurse, not your feild


You have a problem with English. You're not very proficient at
it.


but your coment that I am more proficent in Sebian is a lie


crying cut for formating improvements


Snipped more embarrassing stuff, you mean...


Nope just one of your crying


73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect

And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!


which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement


No...not "...even if true..."


yes even if true

You are the close to most narrowminded idoit haolding a Ham license. Yo
Doc was the worst I know of


It's absolutely true.


nope

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!


thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot


No...YOU calling Hans "snide" for having the temerity to actually
think he was doing you a favor by answering your question for you in an
accurate and prompt manner makes you an idiot.


Well he amswered some OTHER question not mine and not one tht had been
asked


well then Hoist you idiot


Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!


yes aren't well enough educated


Some gay pagan salute?


Nope

and more of your gaybashing

more of your pagan bashing

Steve, K4YZ



I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

"2K8J3E" is broken down into two parts. 2K8 and J3E.

Years ago, A1 was CW. F3 was FM. A3 was AM. Well, they clarified the
emission types to indicate whether a signal was single sideband, double
sideband, independent sidebands and whether the carrier was suppressed,
reduced, or full carrier.

J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.

We often refer to single sideband, fm, cw, or whatever. The nomenclature
that Steve put forth is a formal one that pins down the emission type and
bandwidth much more clearly than saying something like "FM". FM, as you
might be aware, comes in a number of flavors. Narrowband FM has become even
narrower in recent years; however, commercial broadcasting FM is much wider
(and often has a subcarrier present too. They have stereo as well as
secondary transmissions (perhaps Muzak) as well).

So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.

Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA




an_old_friend July 5th 05 10:24 PM


That I lack a knowledge of the arcane ways in which mode were described
is NOT disputed by me

Jim Hampton wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

hack


Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.


not a question about alph numeric mode codes in my question pool

The only even mention was mode A1A Morse encoded CW, and that was only
as an aside in Gordon book that I used to prepare for it

and No suchare even mention in the current Tech pool

If you think it should you shouldaddress your coments to the NVEC


hack
Well he amswered some OTHER question not mine and not one tht had been
asked


well then Hoist you idiot


Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!


yes aren't well enough educated


Some gay pagan salute?


Nope

and more of your gaybashing

more of your pagan bashing

Steve, K4YZ



I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

"2K8J3E" is broken down into two parts. 2K8 and J3E.

Years ago, A1 was CW. F3 was FM. A3 was AM. Well, they clarified the
emission types to indicate whether a signal was single sideband, double
sideband, independent sidebands and whether the carrier was suppressed,
reduced, or full carrier.


I have seen fragment of this but in my reading of way part 97 recently
I don't recall it


J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.


you may well be right but even you don't know, not a slame on you but
pointing that you clearly know better than are not sure how can I be
expected to know it


We often refer to single sideband, fm, cw, or whatever. The nomenclature
that Steve put forth is a formal one that pins down the emission type and


Corecting you Hans put it forth, Steve is taking me to task for not
knowing it

bandwidth much more clearly than saying something like "FM". FM, as you
might be aware, comes in a number of flavors. Narrowband FM has become even


frankly wasn't realy aware if you mean it it has defined subset like FM
2 khz wide (realy narrow if it can even get that narrow) FM 30MHz wide
(which is used in some gunnplexer mircowave gear)

narrower in recent years; however, commercial broadcasting FM is much wider
(and often has a subcarrier present too. They have stereo as well as
secondary transmissions (perhaps Muzak) as well).


secondary trans I think i know about a modualted signal carried like
the pl tone we use on repeaters


So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.


Agreed
and Steve and for that Hans know this and choose to give an answer
technical correct (is it in fact technicaly correct) but dsigned to be
useless to me


Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.


I accept thatyou intend no slam but I miss you have missed Stevies
intent


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



Han's Buddy July 5th 05 11:47 PM


"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?






Jim Hampton July 6th 05 12:20 AM


"Han's Buddy" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?


I am hardly a "toady". You may not be aware, but I served in the U.S. Navy
during the Vietnam war. There had been a typhoon on Saipan that wiped out
the Coast Guard tower there.

Hans was sent to try and re-establish communications with Guam.

I was the individual on Guam who made the initial contact and the amateurs
relayed traffic for a number of days between Saipan and ComNavMar. Hans was
on the Saipan end, where most everything had been leveled.

I respect Hans simply because he has *earned* it.

Is that such a difficult concept?

Hans did more for his country in a week than most do in a lifetime.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the folks that want to dismiss Hans; as
I stated, he served, served well, and served proudly. I have no problem
with that.

I suspect you'll be one of the folks in the years to come that will condemn
the guys and gals serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You'll be another
one voting to cut VA services. Thank you so much.

Where did you serve? Or did you serve like our current Commandant-In-Chief?



With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA




John Smith July 6th 05 01:29 AM


"LittleGreenAlien" wrote in message
news:rhijva8nvzh3mk0.050720051629@kirk...
YAWN

i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LGA

Which movie was it John Smith.....er LGA?



"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Han's Buddy" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on
it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?


I am hardly a "toady". You may not be aware, but I served in the U.S.
Navy
during the Vietnam war. There had been a typhoon on Saipan that wiped
out
the Coast Guard tower there.

Hans was sent to try and re-establish communications with Guam.

I was the individual on Guam who made the initial contact and the
amateurs
relayed traffic for a number of days between Saipan and ComNavMar. Hans
was
on the Saipan end, where most everything had been leveled.

I respect Hans simply because he has *earned* it.

Is that such a difficult concept?

Hans did more for his country in a week than most do in a lifetime.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the folks that want to dismiss Hans;
as
I stated, he served, served well, and served proudly. I have no problem
with that.

I suspect you'll be one of the folks in the years to come that will
condemn
the guys and gals serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You'll be
another
one voting to cut VA services. Thank you so much.

Where did you serve? Or did you serve like our current
Commandant-In-Chief?



With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA






















































John Smith July 6th 05 01:51 AM

The one where arnold played me, the real John Smith.

You remember, you were my double there!

ROFLOL

John

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:1120609804.3754379e2eec9980738c8772db8980c5@t eranews...

"LittleGreenAlien" wrote in message
news:rhijva8nvzh3mk0.050720051629@kirk...
YAWN

i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LGA

Which movie was it John Smith.....er LGA?



"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Han's Buddy" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some
light on it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?


I am hardly a "toady". You may not be aware, but I served in the
U.S. Navy
during the Vietnam war. There had been a typhoon on Saipan that
wiped out
the Coast Guard tower there.

Hans was sent to try and re-establish communications with Guam.

I was the individual on Guam who made the initial contact and the
amateurs
relayed traffic for a number of days between Saipan and ComNavMar.
Hans was
on the Saipan end, where most everything had been leveled.

I respect Hans simply because he has *earned* it.

Is that such a difficult concept?

Hans did more for his country in a week than most do in a
lifetime.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the folks that want to dismiss
Hans; as
I stated, he served, served well, and served proudly. I have no
problem
with that.

I suspect you'll be one of the folks in the years to come that
will condemn
the guys and gals serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You'll
be another
one voting to cut VA services. Thank you so much.

Where did you serve? Or did you serve like our current
Commandant-In-Chief?



With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
























































John Smith July 6th 05 01:58 AM

Uh, huh, I won't... lol

John

"Arnold Schwarzenegger" wrote in message
news:bt28llagfd2pkie.050720051754@kirk...
JAH!

me the arnie baby was the star

don't forget it

arnold

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
The one where arnold played me, the real John Smith.

You remember, you were my double there!

ROFLOL

John

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:1120609804.3754379e2eec9980738c8772db8980c5@t eranews...

"LittleGreenAlien" wrote in message
news:rhijva8nvzh3mk0.050720051629@kirk...
YAWN

i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LGA

Which movie was it John Smith.....er LGA?



"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Han's Buddy" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some
light on it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?


I am hardly a "toady". You may not be aware, but I served in
the U.S. Navy
during the Vietnam war. There had been a typhoon on Saipan that
wiped out
the Coast Guard tower there.

Hans was sent to try and re-establish communications with Guam.

I was the individual on Guam who made the initial contact and
the amateurs
relayed traffic for a number of days between Saipan and
ComNavMar. Hans was
on the Saipan end, where most everything had been leveled.

I respect Hans simply because he has *earned* it.

Is that such a difficult concept?

Hans did more for his country in a week than most do in a
lifetime.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the folks that want to
dismiss Hans; as
I stated, he served, served well, and served proudly. I have no
problem
with that.

I suspect you'll be one of the folks in the years to come that
will condemn
the guys and gals serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You'll
be another
one voting to cut VA services. Thank you so much.

Where did you serve? Or did you serve like our current
Commandant-In-Chief?



With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA






























































































































































































Jim Hampton July 6th 05 04:07 AM

Yep,

And I know why I wish I was back in the country my grandfather was born in.

You folks are off the top.


With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - my grandfather was born in Scotland.



"LittleGreenAlien" wrote in message
news:rhijva8nvzh3mk0.050720051629@kirk...
YAWN

i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LGA




Han's Buddy July 6th 05 04:16 AM


"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...


I am hardly a "toady".

////////remaining drivel flushed//////

OH I see now. You are not only a K0HB sycophant, but
you also repeat the often debunked and infamous
"Hans Radio Hero" story. OK, you can go back to hitting
the shot 'n beers down at the Legion Hall.




Han's Buddy July 6th 05 04:21 AM

There's a sequel coming out soon. They are filming it down at
the Legion Hall. The title of the remake movie is going to be:

"Hans And His Sycophants Tell Radio Hero 2"

The new story line will involve how Hans personally changed
the course of a Typhoon, so that radio traffic could get
through to the fleet.



"LittleGreenAlien" wrote in message
news:rhijva8nvzh3mk0.050720051629@kirk...
YAWN

i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LGA

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...

"Han's Buddy" wrote in message
...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on
it.

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA



So how long have you been a K0HB sycophant?


I am hardly a "toady". You may not be aware, but I served in the U.S.
Navy
during the Vietnam war. There had been a typhoon on Saipan that wiped
out
the Coast Guard tower there.

Hans was sent to try and re-establish communications with Guam.

I was the individual on Guam who made the initial contact and the
amateurs
relayed traffic for a number of days between Saipan and ComNavMar. Hans
was
on the Saipan end, where most everything had been leveled.

I respect Hans simply because he has *earned* it.

Is that such a difficult concept?

Hans did more for his country in a week than most do in a lifetime.
Frankly, I couldn't care less about the folks that want to dismiss Hans;
as
I stated, he served, served well, and served proudly. I have no problem
with that.

I suspect you'll be one of the folks in the years to come that will
condemn
the guys and gals serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today. You'll be
another
one voting to cut VA services. Thank you so much.

Where did you serve? Or did you serve like our current
Commandant-In-Chief?



With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA






















































Han's Buddy July 6th 05 04:28 AM

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Yep,

And I know why I wish I was back in the country my grandfather was born
in.

You folks are off the top.


With all due regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA
ps - my grandfather was born in Scotland.



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i seen that movie

arnold swartzenegger played the part better

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K4YZ July 6th 05 01:47 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot


You finally got one thing right this week...


Mighty white of you old man


Now THAT'S bigotry, Mark.

Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.


not a question about alph numeric mode codes in my question pool


I didn't say it was a licensing question, Mark.

I said it's within the scope of your licensure.

If you think it should you shouldaddress your coments to the NVEC


Why should I address the fact that Mark Morgan is ignorant of the
rules and regulations that he is responsible for knowing and complying
with to the NVEC?

crying cut for formating improvements


You cut yourself out? Why?


nop cut out your crying


Huh?

And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....

indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads


It's not a personal attack, Mark. It's a professional
observation.


Nope a BIG lie for an ER nurse, not your feild


Nope.

Being able to assess the basic level of social development and
competency with "ADL'S", or "Activites of Daily Living", is a
number-one criterion for a good ER Nurse.

Now...Would YOU please show me where YOU have any credentials in
determining what is and is not within the scope of practice for a Nurse
at ANY level of licensure...?!?!

You have a problem with English. You're not very proficient at
it.


but your coment that I am more proficent in Sebian is a lie


I never said you were competent in Sebian...Whatever THAT is...

crying cut for formating improvements


Snipped more embarrassing stuff, you mean...


Nope just one of your crying


I'm not the one crying, Markie.

I'm not the one having his dirty laundry and failed character held
up to the light of day.

73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect

And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!

which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement


No...not "...even if true..."


yes even if true


Then it's true and we've found something else we can agree on.

You're idiotic and narrow brained.

Good show.

You are the close to most narrowminded idoit haolding a Ham license.


Just when I think I can't laugh any harder, Mark pushes the button
one more time!

BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! !

Yo Doc was the worst I know of


You mean he was more aggressive in rubbing your nose in your own
droppings.

I can live with that.

It's absolutely true.


nope


Yep.

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!

thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot


No...YOU calling Hans "snide" for having the temerity to actually
think he was doing you a favor by answering your question for you in an
accurate and prompt manner makes you an idiot.


Well he amswered some OTHER question not mine and not one tht had been
asked


You asked about the "60 meter band" and about what mode could be
used there.

He answered you precisely.

You responded in your typical idiotic, kneejerk fashion, once again
showing the world what kind of "man" Mark Morgan is.


well then Hoist you idiot


Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!


yes aren't well enough educated


"Hoist you"...?!?!

"yes aren't well enough educated"...?!?!

Mark, there's not one coherent thought there...Not to the rest of
the world, anyway.

Some gay pagan salute?


Nope

and more of your gaybashing

more of your pagan bashing


What gaybashing?

What pagan bashing?

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ July 6th 05 02:02 PM



an_old_friend wrote:

Jim Hampton wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

hack


Yes, Mark...that's what you do best...

That I lack a knowledge of the arcane ways in which mode were described
is NOT disputed by me


It's not arcane.

It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.

I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

"2K8J3E" is broken down into two parts. 2K8 and J3E.

Years ago, A1 was CW. F3 was FM. A3 was AM. Well, they clarified the
emission types to indicate whether a signal was single sideband, double
sideband, independent sidebands and whether the carrier was suppressed,
reduced, or full carrier.


I have seen fragment of this but in my reading of way part 97 recently
I don't recall it


Becasue you skipped over the parts not written in crayon, Mark.

J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.


you may well be right but even you don't know, not a slame on you but
pointing that you clearly know better than are not sure how can I be
expected to know it


You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.

I don't know them all either, but I know where to find out.

We often refer to single sideband, fm, cw, or whatever. The nomenclature
that Steve put forth is a formal one that pins down the emission type and


Corecting you Hans put it forth, Steve is taking me to task for not
knowing it


No, not at all.

I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.

So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.


Agreed
and Steve and for that Hans know this and choose to give an answer
technical correct (is it in fact technicaly correct) but dsigned to be
useless to me


It was only useless to you since you refused to follow-up on it
from there.

You wanted spoon-fed, written in crayon answers.

Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be albe to
understand the answer.

Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.


I accept thatyou intend no slam but I miss you have missed Stevies
intent


There's no "intent" on my part, Mark.

You asked a question. You got the answer. You then insulted the
respondant and called him a liar.

You were wrong on several levels.

You owe Hans Brakob an apology.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 6th 05 02:12 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

First none wonders why you consider me an idiot

You finally got one thing right this week...


Mighty white of you old man


Now THAT'S bigotry, Mark.


Perhaps

it is also sarcasm



Yes, it's true that you don't understand emission designators...Yet
it's supposed to be a part of your licensing scope.


not a question about alph numeric mode codes in my question pool


I didn't say it was a licensing question, Mark.

I said it's within the scope of your licensure.


auf anglish bitte

If you think it should you shouldaddress your coments to the NVEC


Why should I address the fact that Mark Morgan is ignorant of the
rules and regulations that he is responsible for knowing and complying
with to the NVEC?


you should not, but given your control freak mentality you may well
have done so already,

OTOH it is what I said. what I said is that if you think knowing such
codes is so important you address your concenr to NVEC

There is no requirement that I know any rule or regulation Stevie,
merely that I obey them.

I freely admit I don't or care about the meaning of j87fh76k or the
differences between it and j6gd748jd



crying cut for formating improvements

You cut yourself out? Why?


nop cut out your crying


Huh?


grow up


And get this...MARK MORGAN talking about what is or is not
"english".....

indeed and you have a problem with that, and need to start another of
your personal attack threads

It's not a personal attack, Mark. It's a professional
observation.


Nope a BIG lie for an ER nurse, not your feild


Nope.


Yep

Being able to assess the basic level of social development and
competency with "ADL'S", or "Activites of Daily Living", is a
number-one criterion for a good ER Nurse.


if so then why are you so bad at it

oH excuse you said Good ER nurse that does let you out


Now...Would YOU please show me where YOU have any credentials in
determining what is and is not within the scope of practice for a Nurse
at ANY level of licensure...?!?!


NO I will not

There are limits to the extent I will help you play your divisionary
games



You have a problem with English. You're not very proficient at
it.


but your coment that I am more proficent in Sebian is a lie


I never said you were competent in Sebian...Whatever THAT is...


more avoidance


crying cut for formating improvements

Snipped more embarrassing stuff, you mean...


Nope just one of your crying


I'm not the one crying, Markie.


yes are the one crying your are the word typing crap like
bbbbbbbbbbahhhhhhhhhhhh

Iam just cuting it out of my replies

grow up


I'm not the one having his dirty laundry and failed character held
up to the light of day.


you are just the one inistsing that irelavant info must be repated over
and over again

Dirty laundry, bull****

I am admit to being Bisexual I admit to being Pagan. I admit to
spelling poorly

Now what that has to do with Ham radio or policy therin I don't know

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

your judgement of "failed character" only by perhaps by YOUR standards
fine so my Stevies standard my character is poor

Grow up and move on

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please


73, de Hans, K0HB

73's on an couple of snide posts is about what you'd expect

And you're one of the singularly most idiotic and narrow brained
idiots to ever be allowed to get on the Internet or hold an Amateur
Radio license!

which even if true (and franky you have a real sample problem) has
nothing to do with the statement

No...not "...even if true..."


yes even if true


Then it's true and we've found something else we can agree on.


nope another

or are you goingto pull a Clinton and start a debate on the meaning of
the word "IF"

Grow up

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

You're idiotic and narrow brained.


Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

Good show.


glad you have enjoyed it sadist

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

You are the close to most narrowminded idoit haolding a Ham license.


Just when I think I can't laugh any harder, Mark pushes the button
one more time!


mashochist as well I guess they do often go together


BBBWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
! ! ! ! !


why must you make it even harder to just read and format you bull****
with these outbrusts?

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

Yo Doc was the worst I know of


You mean he was more aggressive in rubbing your nose in your own
droppings.


No I don't I mean what I mean, not what you in your warped mind say I
mean

Stop beating the poor dead equine, please

I can live with that.


yes you can so?



It's absolutely true.


nope


Yep.


Nope you are norrow minded

"Snide"...?!?!?!

What an IDIOT!

thinking somebody snide makes one an idiot

No...YOU calling Hans "snide" for having the temerity to actually
think he was doing you a favor by answering your question for you in an
accurate and prompt manner makes you an idiot.


Well he amswered some OTHER question not mine and not one tht had been
asked


You asked about the "60 meter band" and about what mode could be
used there.


No Iasked wether CW could be use on the 60 M band


He answered you precisely.


nope


You responded in your typical idiotic, kneejerk fashion, once again
showing the world what kind of "man" Mark Morgan is.


a better man than you


well then Hoist you idiot

Huh...?!?!

"Hoist you"...?!?!


yes aren't well enough educated


"Hoist you"...?!?!


yep go look it up


"yes aren't well enough educated"...?!?!


yes it is true you don't seem to be well enough educated

Mark, there's not one coherent thought there...Not to the rest of
the world, anyway.


more overblown bull****

Stevie Blunder speaker onbehalf of the world


Some gay pagan salute?


Nope

and more of your gaybashing

more of your pagan bashing


What gaybashing?


Yours


What pagan bashing?


yours


Steve, K4YZ



an_old_friend July 6th 05 03:06 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Jim Hampton wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

hack


Yes, Mark...that's what you do best...


why thank you


That I lack a knowledge of the arcane ways in which mode were described
is NOT disputed by me


It's not arcane.


it is arcane


It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.


One being codised in regs does NOT mean it is not Arcane? Indeed most
Federal regs are the very defination of Arcane

Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.

I hate to see this thread continue; perhaps I can shed some light on it.

"2K8J3E" is broken down into two parts. 2K8 and J3E.

Years ago, A1 was CW. F3 was FM. A3 was AM. Well, they clarified the
emission types to indicate whether a signal was single sideband, double
sideband, independent sidebands and whether the carrier was suppressed,
reduced, or full carrier.


I have seen fragment of this but in my reading of way part 97 recently
I don't recall it


Becasue you skipped over the parts not written in crayon, Mark.


more venom


J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.


you may well be right but even you don't know, not a slame on you but
pointing that you clearly know better than are not sure how can I be
expected to know it


You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.


expected sure I am expected by you to do lots of stuff

Required no

BTW exactly where are they defined by paragraph Oh font of Knowledge
rival of the Oracle of Delphi


I don't know them all either, but I know where to find out.


The Guide me Oh truely tremenous one (the title of the great Goblin of
the Misty Moutian, JRR tolkien)


We often refer to single sideband, fm, cw, or whatever. The nomenclature
that Steve put forth is a formal one that pins down the emission type and


Corecting you Hans put it forth, Steve is taking me to task for not
knowing it


No, not at all.


Yes Indeed Hans put it forth that is corect but you are right I was
merely guessing at what you are upto. I rarely know and hardly care
exactly what you are upto


I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.


and Hans can't defend himself?

I was rdue to Han's

he was rude to me.

Why are (to use a comon figure of speech)you allowing your panties to
get into such bunch over it?


So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.


Agreed
and Steve and for that Hans know this and choose to give an answer
technical correct (is it in fact technicaly correct) but dsigned to be
useless to me


It was only useless to you since you refused to follow-up on it
from there.


which does not alter the FACT the answer was useless as given


You wanted spoon-fed, written in crayon answers.


No crayon needed

You take me to task when I don't answer your yes or no questions.I have
the same right as you do


Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be albe to
understand the answer.


gee Hans can't defend himself


Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.


I accept thatyou intend no slam but I miss you have missed Stevies
intent


There's no "intent" on my part, Mark.


If you say there was no intent on your part then we chalk up another
lie. you intended something


You asked a question. You got the answer. You then insulted the
respondant and called him a liar.


yes I askeda question

No I did not

I did rebuke the respondant (it is his place to ecide if he was
insulted) rudely if you like

Never called him a lair

You were wrong on several levels.


nope


You owe Hans Brakob an apology.


IF he asks I will consider it

But not on your say so

Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 9th 05 01:46 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Big Snip To The Funny Stuff:

It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.


One being codised in regs does NOT mean it is not Arcane? Indeed most
Federal regs are the very defination of Arcane

Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.


BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !

And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.

I have seen fragment of this but in my reading of way part 97 recently
I don't recall it


Becasue you skipped over the parts not written in crayon, Mark.


more venom


Nope.

J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.

you may well be right but even you don't know, not a slame on you but
pointing that you clearly know better than are not sure how can I be
expected to know it


You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.


expected sure I am expected by you to do lots of stuff

Required no


Required by the FCC...Yes.

BTW exactly where are they defined by paragraph Oh font of Knowledge
rival of the Oracle of Delphi


Where are the rules defined by paragraph?

Try Part 97 you blithering idiot!

Corecting you Hans put it forth, Steve is taking me to task for not
knowing it


No, not at all.


Yes Indeed Hans put it forth that is corect but you are right I was
merely guessing at what you are upto. I rarely know and hardly care
exactly what you are upto


I am not "upto" anything, other than showing the world that, yes,
Mark C Morgan is an idiot.

But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.

I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.


and Hans can't defend himself?

I was rdue to Han's


Yes, you were.

he was rude to me.


No, he was not.

Why are (to use a comon figure of speech)you allowing your panties to
get into such bunch over it?


Because you're so blatant in lying about it.

So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.

Agreed
and Steve and for that Hans know this and choose to give an answer
technical correct (is it in fact technicaly correct) but dsigned to be
useless to me


It was only useless to you since you refused to follow-up on it
from there.


which does not alter the FACT the answer was useless as given


Useless to YOU, perhaps...

Anyone else over 12 with an interest in Amateur Radio had no
problem with it.

You wanted spoon-fed, written in crayon answers.


No crayon needed


Obviously you do.

You take me to task when I don't answer your yes or no questions.I have
the same right as you do


Actually, I consider you to have MORE rights than I consider
necesssary for myself.

Being an idiot is one of them. Being a chronic liar is yet
another.

Help yourself to them...They were made for you. They fit you like
a glove.

Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be able to
understand the answer.


gee Hans can't defend himself


He could quite ably if he chose to.

He just wouldn't enjoy rubbing your nose in your droppings as much
as I do, though...

Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.

I accept thatyou intend no slam but I miss you have missed Stevies
intent


There's no "intent" on my part, Mark.


If you say there was no intent on your part then we chalk up another
lie. you intended something


Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.

Didn't work. My bad.

You asked a question. You got the answer. You then insulted the
respondant and called him a liar.


yes I askeda question


Well...SORT of a question. One can never be quite sure where your
sentences start and stop, or if they were statements, quotes or
questions.

No I did not


Lying again, Mark.

If you want to lie, got lie next your your "aprtnr" for a while.
Be sure to offer him some "Ben-Gay" first, though.

I did rebuke the respondant (it is his place to ecide if he was
insulted) rudely if you like


There was nothing to "rebuke".

The shortfallwas your own.

Never called him a lair


Good thing, too...Because you'd already called him a liar. Just
one more thing might ahve set him off.

You were wrong on several levels.


nope


Absolutely wrong on several levels.

You owe Hans Brakob an apology.


IF he asks I will consider it

But not on your say so


If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.

But then what else is new...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


b.b. July 9th 05 06:11 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.


BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

IOW, a person can be ignorant of the law, and yet they must obey the
law.

Or are you too ignorant to see that?


an_old_friend July 9th 05 07:41 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Big Snip To The Funny Stuff:

It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.


One being codised in regs does NOT mean it is not Arcane? Indeed most
Federal regs are the very defination of Arcane

Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.



must you engage in crying Stevi

BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


What spin? It is a simple matter, obvious to anyone with a brain, ah
prehaps that does let you out.

Obeying the rules is all that is required.In the case of mode which
sparked this thread.

don't need to what number letter combination is USB in order to use
it, I push a botton on the rig and it does that for me



And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.


Nope


I have seen fragment of this but in my reading of way part 97 recently
I don't recall it

Becasue you skipped over the parts not written in crayon, Mark.


more venom


Nope.


yep


J3E refers to the emission type. I have a strong suspicion that 2K8
represents a 2.8 kilohertz bandwidth.

you may well be right but even you don't know, not a slame on you but
pointing that you clearly know better than are not sure how can I be
expected to know it

You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.


expected sure I am expected by you to do lots of stuff

Required no


Required by the FCC...Yes.


You show where the FCC requires it. by rules and paragraph

I am merely required to the USE the airwaves correctly. If i di by use
Tarrot definiation the FCC doesn't care.

If I ID every 5 minute or 9 minutes because i don't remember the FCC
requires it every 10 the FCC doesn't care

Indeed in large discussions I generaly id every transmisstion since it
might not get back around to me in 10 minutes


BTW exactly where are they defined by paragraph Oh font of Knowledge
rival of the Oracle of Delphi


Where are the rules defined by paragraph?

Try Part 97 you blithering idiot!


Stevie thinks Part 97 is a single paragraph


Corecting you Hans put it forth, Steve is taking me to task for not
knowing it

No, not at all.


Yes Indeed Hans put it forth that is corect but you are right I was
merely guessing at what you are upto. I rarely know and hardly care
exactly what you are upto


I am not "upto" anything, other than showing the world that, yes,
Mark C Morgan is an idiot.


well if you are not lieing yet again you say I do that already

Instaead the turth is you up to stalking and harassment but everyone
(except perhaps you) knows that


But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.


Then shut up if showing me an idoit is your sole goal and you you feel
I am beating you to it

You just manged to prove YOURself a lair

I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.


and Hans can't defend himself?

I was rdue to Han's


Yes, you were.


and you say Hans can't defend himself?


he was rude to me.


No, he was not.


Yes he was. Only I can decide what I consider rude treatment


Why are (to use a comon figure of speech)you allowing your panties to
get into such bunch over it?


Because you're so blatant in lying about it.


no lie at all, a defference of opinion perhaps but (hear I guess is a
newsflash stevie) I don't have to agree with you


So Steve may have been a little strong in his wording, but his conclusion
was not in error. You appear to have little knowledge of emission
types/bandwidth occupancy.

Agreed
and Steve and for that Hans know this and choose to give an answer
technical correct (is it in fact technicaly correct) but dsigned to be
useless to me

It was only useless to you since you refused to follow-up on it
from there.


which does not alter the FACT the answer was useless as given


Useless to YOU, perhaps...


indeed as stated

More dead equine kicking stevie


Anyone else over 12 with an interest in Amateur Radio had no
problem with it.


a hyperbole at least, I can at least one other person other 12 with an
interest in Ham radio hwho did not understand it


You wanted spoon-fed, written in crayon answers.


No crayon needed


Obviously you do.


nope indeed crayon would not have help

All that was required was a simple yes or no answer You go on for days
and day when I decline to give YOU one


You take me to task when I don't answer your yes or no questions.I have
the same right as you do


Actually, I consider you to have MORE rights than I consider
necesssary for myself.


auf Anglish bitte

Being an idiot is one of them. Being a chronic liar is yet
another.


Then if you "grant" me these "rights" why do you haraas me for using
them?


Help yourself to them...They were made for you. They fit you like
a glove.


Then grant me the rights you say I have and get on the topic of Ham
Radio, instead of people bashing


Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be able to
understand the answer.


gee Hans can't defend himself


He could quite ably if he chose to.


then let him


He just wouldn't enjoy rubbing your nose in your droppings as much
as I do, though...


Ah admiting to sadism again, but...

to work, it real has have some substance


Not slamming you, but Steve was not entirely remiss in his post.

I accept thatyou intend no slam but I miss you have missed Stevies
intent

There's no "intent" on my part, Mark.


If you say there was no intent on your part then we chalk up another
lie. you intended something


Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.


That is an improper intent, and one doomed to failure,

In addition I claim the right to respond to what you post , and deny
any responiblity to figure out what other crap is lurking in your mind


Didn't work. My bad.


a begining


You asked a question. You got the answer. You then insulted the
respondant and called him a liar.


yes I askeda question


Well...SORT of a question. One can never be quite sure where your
sentences start and stop, or if they were statements, quotes or
questions.


then indeed if you can't figure it out you don't know wether or not you
understand it


No I did not


Lying again, Mark.


I know the question even if you don't therefore ONLY I know if I got
the answer, you by your own addmission can't


If you want to lie, got lie next your your "aprtnr" for a while.
Be sure to offer him some "Ben-Gay" first, though.


Gee you know the gender of my partner? I have made a point of not
mentioning that takes a lot of typing in english.

Been stalking me more closely than I think or making stuff up again?



I did rebuke the respondant (it is his place to ecide if he was
insulted) rudely if you like


There was nothing to "rebuke".


yes there was. his failure to answer a yes or no question



The shortfallwas your own.


what?

Nope If i follow you then

you explain how a string of number s can be answer to "Is my impression
correct"


Never called him a lair


Good thing, too...Because you'd already called him a liar. Just
one more thing might ahve set him off.


If Hans lies i may well call him on it to date I have heard nothing I'd
clearly a lie. I have my doubts on some details of some of his stories
but I don't care enough to follow up

OTOH I don't care wether I set Hans off

BTW are you ever going to bother to learn to spell the word "Have"?


You were wrong on several levels.


nope


Absolutely wrong on several levels.


not at all on any level


You owe Hans Brakob an apology.


IF he asks I will consider it

But not on your say so


If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.


Not at all

Hans (nor anyone else) is entitled an apology where no offense was
intended with indaicating in some form he was offended



But then what else is new...?!?!


another stveie falsehood

Is theire a manual of this fake socail rules or do you just make it all
up

as I said I'll consider apologizing to hans if he asks, but I apologize
to NONE on your say so Stevie


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 11th 05 03:41 PM

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Big Snip To The Funny Stuff:

It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.

One being codised in regs does NOT mean it is not Arcane? Indeed most
Federal regs are the very defination of Arcane

Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.



must you engage in crying Stevi


I'm not.

But I AM laughing at you...

Again...

BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


What spin? It is a simple matter, obvious to anyone with a brain, ah
prehaps that does let you out.


It IS a spin, Markie...

Answer my question, please...

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???

Obeying the rules is all that is required.In the case of mode which
sparked this thread.


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???

don't need to what number letter combination is USB in order to use
it, I push a botton on the rig and it does that for me


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???

And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.


Nope


Uh huh...about what I figured...

You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.

expected sure I am expected by you to do lots of stuff

Required no


Required by the FCC...Yes.


You show where the FCC requires it. by rules and paragraph


The line on the back of your license where it says you will abide
by FCC rules and regualtions as thhey pertain to your Amateur Radio
station.

I am merely required to the USE the airwaves correctly. If i di by use
Tarrot definiation the FCC doesn't care.


Sure they do.

Show me a Tarot (...not Tarrot) card deck that has Part 97 in it.

If I ID every 5 minute or 9 minutes because i don't remember the FCC
requires it every 10 the FCC doesn't care


The FCC doesn't care if you "ID" once a minute...As long as there's
no more than a 10 minute interval between them.

Then they care.

Read recent FCC NOV's and NAL's...Read the ARRL's webpage that
cites letters sent to Amateurs who violated that very paragraph.

Indeed in large discussions I generaly id every transmisstion since it
might not get back around to me in 10 minutes


If you didn't cause RF to be emitted, it doesn't matter.

BTW exactly where are they defined by paragraph Oh font of Knowledge
rival of the Oracle of Delphi


Where are the rules defined by paragraph?

Try Part 97 you blithering idiot!


Stevie thinks Part 97 is a single paragraph


The rules ARE defined in paragraphs in Part 97, Markie.

If you meant only ONE paragraph, that was due to YOUR failure to
effectively express that thought...

Maybe a gradeshcool English writing course would help you...

Instaead the turth is you up to stalking and harassment but everyone
(except perhaps you) knows that


Nope. You came here. No one forced you.

But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.


Then shut up if showing me an idoit is your sole goal and you you feel
I am beating you to it


There's that "idoit" thing again.

You're holding at 100%.

You just manged to prove YOURself a lair


I am not a lair. Nor am I a liar.

I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.

and Hans can't defend himself?

I was rdue to Han's


Yes, you were.


and you say Hans can't defend himself?


Nope. That's YOU "forging" my words.

he was rude to me.


No, he was not.


Yes he was. Only I can decide what I consider rude treatment


No. Society can set the parameters by which rude treatment is
determined.

In no way shape or form did Hans cross that line.

YOU did, however....

Anyone else over 12 with an interest in Amateur Radio had no
problem with it.


a hyperbole at least, I can at least one other person other 12 with an
interest in Ham radio hwho did not understand it


I think they need to disperse flyers in your town warning them
about you...No one should allow a 12 year old alone with you.

Then if you "grant" me these "rights" why do you haraas me for using
them?


I don't "grant" you anything.

Help yourself to them...They were made for you. They fit you like
a glove.


Then grant me the rights you say I have and get on the topic of Ham
Radio, instead of people bashing


I am not people bashing.

Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be able to
understand the answer.

gee Hans can't defend himself


He could quite ably if he chose to.


then let him


But I am having such fun showing you for the rude creep that you
are.

But it's easy fun...You don't make it much of a challenge.

He just wouldn't enjoy rubbing your nose in your droppings as much
as I do, though...


Ah admiting to sadism again, but...

to work, it real has have some substance


Sure it does...

Folks can just surf Google under any of your "KONSTANS"
nomme-de-guerre's you have used.

Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.


That is an improper intent, and one doomed to failure


Doomed to failure, perhaps.

Not improper, however.

In addition I claim the right to respond to what you post , and deny
any responiblity to figure out what other crap is lurking in your mind

Didn't work. My bad.


a begining


You missed the point again, but hey, what's new...?!?!

If you want to lie, got lie next your your "aprtnr" for a while.
Be sure to offer him some "Ben-Gay" first, though.


Gee you know the gender of my partner? I have made a point of not
mentioning that takes a lot of typing in english.

Been stalking me more closely than I think or making stuff up again?


Nope. If you weren't such an idiot you'd remember what you wrote
a week ago.

Or more MarkieLying..?!?!

I did rebuke the respondant (it is his place to ecide if he was
insulted) rudely if you like


There was nothing to "rebuke".


yes there was. his failure to answer a yes or no question


So he's "guilty" for imparting MORE knowledge than you are capble
of processing...

But you STILL couldn't be polite to him and ask for a better
clarification if you didn't understand...?!?!

Good thing, too...Because you'd already called him a liar. Just
one more thing might ahve set him off.


If Hans lies i may well call him on it to date I have heard nothing I'd
clearly a lie. I have my doubts on some details of some of his stories
but I don't care enough to follow up

OTOH I don't care wether I set Hans off


You should.

BTW are you ever going to bother to learn to spell the word "Have"?


Lessee.....

I OCCASSIONALLY transpose "h" and "a"...

As opposed to your near-every sentence errors?

That's a load!

BTW...Getting your "partner" to do your writing lately?

You were wrong on several levels.

nope


Absolutely wrong on several levels.


not at all on any level


Wrong.

You owe Hans Brakob an apology.

IF he asks I will consider it

But not on your say so


If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.


Not at all


Absolutely.

Hans (nor anyone else) is entitled an apology where no offense was
intended with indaicating in some form he was offended


Obviously he was.

But then what else is new...?!?!


another stveie falsehood


Nope.

Is theire a manual of this fake socail rules or do you just make it all
up

as I said I'll consider apologizing to hans if he asks, but I apologize
to NONE on your say so Stevie


And like I said...if you haven't got the cajones to jsut offer him
a sincere apology on your own, it's not..well...sincere...

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 11th 05 05:22 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

Big Snip To The Funny Stuff:

It's "here and now". It's codified into the regulations for a
federal license that YOU hold and are required to at least be familiar
with.

One being codised in regs does NOT mean it is not Arcane? Indeed most
Federal regs are the very defination of Arcane

Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.


must you engage in crying Stevi


I'm not.

But I AM laughing at you...

Again...

BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !


break
I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


What spin? It is a simple matter, obvious to anyone with a brain, ah
prehaps that does let you out.


It IS a spin, Markie...


nope it isn't


Answer my question, please...

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


well the regular you are referring to by punching the botton on my
radio, Yeaszu and FCC have seen to it that it generates legal types of
signals wether i know the letter codes or not

My rig will not tranmit out band so I am covered there


Obeying the rules is all that is required.In the case of mode which
sparked this thread.


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


several methods are possible such apllaince operating

not operating also insures I don't break the rules

one could count on simple luck (not wise but possible)

I am sure there are additional examples


don't need to what number letter combination is USB in order to use
it, I push a botton on the rig and it does that for me


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


asked and answered


And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.


Nope


Uh huh...about what I figured...


I am required to obey
not understand

Nothing in part 97 says I have to understand it



You can be expected to at least know where to find the information
since you ARE responsible for it as a Commisssion licensee of an
Amateur Radio station.

expected sure I am expected by you to do lots of stuff

Required no

Required by the FCC...Yes.


You show where the FCC requires it. by rules and paragraph


The line on the back of your license where it says you will abide
by FCC rules and regualtions as thhey pertain to your Amateur Radio
station.


....Abide by the FCC rules and regulation... nothing about understanding
them there

another Stevie LIE

I am merely required to the USE the airwaves correctly. If i di by use
Tarrot definiation the FCC doesn't care.


Sure they do.


prove it. or even show something that suggests it


Show me a Tarot (...not Tarrot) card deck that has Part 97 in it.


Tarrot Torot and Tarot are all vaild speling of the words

and you question merely shows you ignorance of the Tarrot


If I ID every 5 minute or 9 minutes because i don't remember the FCC
requires it every 10 the FCC doesn't care


The FCC doesn't care if you "ID" once a minute...As long as there's
no more than a 10 minute interval between them.


which I am fine if I id every signal I send regards of what I rember
about the rules


Then they care.

Read recent FCC NOV's and NAL's...Read the ARRL's webpage that
cites letters sent to Amateurs who violated that very paragraph.


your point?


Indeed in large discussions I generaly id every transmisstion since it
might not get back around to me in 10 minutes


If you didn't cause RF to be emitted, it doesn't matter.


not by what I hear maybe I just don't understand, and htta is what what
some of the old timers claim very loudy at time when they break and
play radio cop


BTW exactly where are they defined by paragraph Oh font of Knowledge
rival of the Oracle of Delphi

Where are the rules defined by paragraph?

Try Part 97 you blithering idiot!


Stevie thinks Part 97 is a single paragraph


The rules ARE defined in paragraphs in Part 97, Markie.


you have been asked for a citaion by paragraph All federal reg are
numbered by section and most by paragraph


If you meant only ONE paragraph, that was due to YOUR failure to
effectively express that thought...


I don't know how paragraphs you would need to cite So I don't mean One
para or ten you claim to know so you tell me


Maybe a gradeshcool English writing course would help you...


nope

You learning what the rule say instead what you think they say is what
is needed


Instaead the turth is you up to stalking and harassment but everyone
(except perhaps you) knows that


Nope. You came here. No one forced you.


so

You claim you have the right to stalk and harrass anyone that comes in
your feild of vision?


But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.


Then shut up if showing me an idoit is your sole goal and you you feel
I am beating you to it


There's that "idoit" thing again.


so


You're holding at 100%.

You just manged to prove YOURself a lair


I am not a lair. Nor am I a liar.


yes you are


I am taking you to task for treating Hans so rudely then lying
about it afterwards.

and Hans can't defend himself?

I was rdue to Han's

Yes, you were.


and you say Hans can't defend himself?


Nope. That's YOU "forging" my words.


then explain what you are doing


he was rude to me.

No, he was not.


Yes he was. Only I can decide what I consider rude treatment


No. Society can set the parameters by which rude treatment is
determined.


not ture


In no way shape or form did Hans cross that line.


says you? even IF I grant your "No. Society can set the parameters by
which rude treatment is
determined" you are not empowered to act for Society, trying to do is what Makes you a Vigilanty something form another thread.



YOU did, however....


Auf anglish bitte is a phrase forbidden by Society?

Bull****


Anyone else over 12 with an interest in Amateur Radio had no
problem with it.


a hyperbole at least, I can at least one other person other 12 with an
interest in Ham radio hwho did not understand it


I think they need to disperse flyers in your town warning them
about you...No one should allow a 12 year old alone with you.


and more libel from you

If I thought you had anything worth taking that is enough to take you
to court for Stevie, at least in the Opinion of a paralegal (my partner
not me)


Then if you "grant" me these "rights" why do you haraas me for using
them?


I don't "grant" you anything.


then you were lieing when you made the statement

" Actually, I consider you to have MORE rights than I consider
necesssary for myself.

Being an idiot is one of them. Being a chronic liar is yet
another.


Help yourself to them...They were made for you. They fit you like

a glove. "

your word not mine
you cut them out ofyour last post

but by your words I have those rights and if I am merely exercising
them what right do you have to complain



Help yourself to them...They were made for you. They fit you like
a glove.


Then grant me the rights you say I have and get on the topic of Ham
Radio, instead of people bashing


I am not people bashing.


you only engage in personal attack


you edit stuff to cover your tracks


Hans' only mistake was assuming that you might be able to
understand the answer.

gee Hans can't defend himself

He could quite ably if he chose to.


then let him


But I am having such fun showing you for the rude creep that you
are.

But it's easy fun...You don't make it much of a challenge.

He just wouldn't enjoy rubbing your nose in your droppings as much
as I do, though...


Ah admiting to sadism again, but...

to work, it real has have some substance


Sure it does...

Folks can just surf Google under any of your "KONSTANS"
nomme-de-guerre's you have used.


your point? or do you have one?

Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.


That is an improper intent, and one doomed to failure


Doomed to failure, perhaps.


a begining boyo

Not improper, however.


It is imporper


In addition I claim the right to respond to what you post , and deny
any responiblity to figure out what other crap is lurking in your mind

Didn't work. My bad.


a begining


You missed the point again, but hey, what's new...?!?!


You had a point?


If you want to lie, got lie next your your "aprtnr" for a while.
Be sure to offer him some "Ben-Gay" first, though.


Gee you know the gender of my partner? I have made a point of not
mentioning that takes a lot of typing in english.

Been stalking me more closely than I think or making stuff up again?


Nope. If you weren't such an idiot you'd remember what you wrote
a week ago.


making up stuff as a point of fact my partner is female was avoiding it
becuase it wasn't and isn't any of your affair


Or more MarkieLying..?!?!


no just Stevie lieing


I did rebuke the respondant (it is his place to ecide if he was
insulted) rudely if you like

There was nothing to "rebuke".


yes there was. his failure to answer a yes or no question


So he's "guilty" for imparting MORE knowledge than you are capble
of processing...


He imparted no knowledge something you have already agreed


But you STILL couldn't be polite to him and ask for a better
clarification if you didn't understand...?!?!


I did ask politely

I said "Auf Anglish Bitte"

I could have said "answer the question asked ****head" or other far
ruder responses


Good thing, too...Because you'd already called him a liar. Just
one more thing might ahve set him off.


If Hans lies i may well call him on it to date I have heard nothing I'd
clearly a lie. I have my doubts on some details of some of his stories
but I don't care enough to follow up

OTOH I don't care wether I set Hans off


You should.


why?


BTW are you ever going to bother to learn to spell the word "Have"?


Lessee.....

I OCCASSIONALLY transpose "h" and "a"...


I can't recallseeing the word have speeled right by you in days



As opposed to your near-every sentence errors?


"judge not lest ye be judged"


That's a load!

BTW...Getting your "partner" to do your writing lately?


no why do you ask?


You were wrong on several levels.

nope

Absolutely wrong on several levels.


not at all on any level


Wrong.


Stevie grow up


You owe Hans Brakob an apology.

IF he asks I will consider it

But not on your say so

If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.


Not at all


Absolutely.


Stevie YOU insting on means it will not happen if hans asks I will
consider it If Jim Ney asks I will consider it, but the more you go the
less likely i will do it

I do nothing to please you


Hans (nor anyone else) is entitled an apology where no offense was
intended with indaicating in some form he was offended


Obviously he was.


obviously was what?

auf anglish bitte



But then what else is new...?!?!


another stveie falsehood


Nope.


yes


Is theire a manual of this fake socail rules or do you just make it all
up

as I said I'll consider apologizing to hans if he asks, but I apologize
to NONE on your say so Stevie


And like I said...if you haven't got the cajones to jsut offer him
a sincere apology on your own, it's not..well...sincere...


oh I see what you mean now took you long enough to say what you mean
(if you are saying what you mean now) Then you have been chasing a wild
goose form moment one in this thread since of course If aplogize to
Hans now you will not consider it sincere, so logicly thier is
certianly no point in my doing so


Steve, K4YZ



b.b. July 12th 05 04:20 AM



b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

IOW, a person can be ignorant of the law, and yet they must obey the
law.

Or are you too ignorant to see that?


Why Steve no answer?


an_old_friend July 12th 05 04:31 AM



b.b. wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.

BBBWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

IOW, a person can be ignorant of the law, and yet they must obey the
law.

Or are you too ignorant to see that?


Why Steve no answer?


Because he is too busy figuring out more name to call me most likely
after he is plain wrong


esp when he rests that on my not knowing the codes for pushing button
like FM on my rig


K4YZ July 12th 05 03:04 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Answer my question, please...

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


well the regular you are referring to by punching the botton on my
radio, Yeaszu and FCC have seen to it that it generates legal types of
signals wether i know the letter codes or not


You are responsible for the proper operation of your radio
station.

Yeasu (NOT "Yeaszu") is NOT responsible for the emissions of the
radio.

My rig will not tranmit out band so I am covered there


Bravo Sierra.

E V E R Y RF generating device has the potential of radiating a
signal other than the one designed for.

Ask Lennie.

Obeying the rules is all that is required.In the case of mode which
sparked this thread.


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


several methods are possible such apllaince operating


"Apllaince operating" does not make you familiar with FCC rules
and regulations.

It makes you an "apllaince" operator...that's all.

not operating also insures I don't break the rules


And keeps them free of your "dreck".

one could count on simple luck (not wise but possible)

I am sure there are additional examples


None of which meet the letter of the spirit of the law.

SO you're bascially saying that you don't care what the rules are,
you'll just do what you darn well please.

don't need to what number letter combination is USB in order to use
it, I push a botton on the rig and it does that for me


How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


asked and answered


Asked and answered with stupid answers.

(...as if I expected anything different...?!?!)

And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.

Nope


Uh huh...about what I figured...


I am required to obey
not understand


And you STILL have not adequately explained how you can "obey"
laws that you do not understand.

Nothing in part 97 says I have to understand it


Your signature on FCC form 660 an the provisions of the
Communications Act of 1934 in Section 310 and others do.

And yes, you're supposed to know them. You sign the document.


The line on the back of your license where it says you will abide
by FCC rules and regualtions as thhey pertain to your Amateur Radio
station.


...Abide by the FCC rules and regulation... nothing about understanding
them there

another Stevie LIE


Nope.

You cannot "abide" by laws you do not understand.

I am merely required to the USE the airwaves correctly. If i di by use
Tarrot definiation the FCC doesn't care.


Sure they do.


prove it. or even show something that suggests it


Done.

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices

Show me a Tarot (...not Tarrot) card deck that has Part 97 in it.


Tarrot Torot and Tarot are all vaild speling of the words

and you question merely shows you ignorance of the Tarrot


I know that it's spelled "Tarot" in English.

Indeed in large discussions I generaly id every transmisstion since it
might not get back around to me in 10 minutes


If you didn't cause RF to be emitted, it doesn't matter.


not by what I hear maybe I just don't understand, and htta is what what
some of the old timers claim very loudy at time when they break and
play radio cop


Perhaps if you knew the laws that you are governed by you wouldn't
have to depend on "...not by what I hear..."

And yes, you DON'T understand. Being wilfully ignorant doesn't
excuse you from compliance.

Instaead the turth is you up to stalking and harassment but everyone
(except perhaps you) knows that


Nope. You came here. No one forced you.


so

You claim you have the right to stalk and harrass anyone that comes in
your feild of vision?


I'm not stalking anyone nor am I harassing anyone.

You voluntarilly reply to these posts.

No one dragged you here.

But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.

Then shut up if showing me an idoit is your sole goal and you you feel
I am beating you to it


There's that "idoit" thing again.


so


So you've proven yourself wrong.

Over and over.

You're holding at 100%.

You just manged to prove YOURself a lair


I am not a lair. Nor am I a liar.


yes you are


Nope. You SAY I am a liar, but you've not yet shown a single one.
(Websters refers...)

and you say Hans can't defend himself?


Nope. That's YOU "forging" my words.


then explain what you are doing


I've not forged a single word, Markie.

Look up the definition of "forged" in Websters.

No. Society can set the parameters by which rude treatment is
determined.


not ture


Absolutely "ture".

In no way shape or form did Hans cross that line.


says you?


Says everyone EXCEPT you.

even IF I grant your...(SNIP)


You're not empowered to "grant" me anything, Markie.

You haven't got the proper genetics.

YOU did, however....


Auf anglish bitte is a phrase forbidden by Society?


Where did I say it was? (Even if you continue to mispell the
germanic reference to "English"

Bull####


Yes, You are.

I think they need to disperse flyers in your town warning them
about you...No one should allow a 12 year old alone with you.


and more libel from you


Nope.

Fact.

Based upon your own words.

If I thought you had anything worth taking that is enough to take you
to court for Stevie, at least in the Opinion of a paralegal (my partner
not me)


Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

I don't know who the bigger idiot would be...

You for trying to file such a "case" considering the tons of
admissions of sexual perversion and wilfull mistruthfulness on your
part,

Or your "partner" for suggesting such might be possible
considering the aforementioned evidence that exists in Google archives.

Then if you "grant" me these "rights" why do you haraas me for using
them?


I don't "grant" you anything.


then you were lieing when you made the statement


I never "granted" you anything. Those are YOUR words...Not mine,
you "forger" ! ! !

" Actually, I consider you to have MORE rights than I consider
necesssary for myself.

Being an idiot is one of them. Being a chronic liar is yet
another.


Yes, you are an idiot and you are a chronic liar.

I am not people bashing.


you only engage in personal attack


It's not an attack.

It's the truth.

you edit stuff to cover your tracks


Nope.

I "edit" stuff to keep these posts from being yards and yards
long.

Anyone can go back and review them if they care to...Even you....

Folks can just surf Google under any of your "KONSTANS"
nomme-de-guerre's you have used.


your point? or do you have one?


Sure.

My point is that anyone can surf Google under any of your
"KONSTANS" nomme-de-guerre's you've used and see what kind of a lyig
creep you are.

They can also surf KB9RQZ, "MWMORGAN" and a plethora of othr names
you've come and gone under as you bounce from ISP to ISP...

Speaking of which, I can only hope and pray that you finally
ditched that ISP you alleged was charging you $5/hr.

Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.

That is an improper intent, and one doomed to failure


Doomed to failure, perhaps.


a begining boyo


Huh?

Not improper, however.


It is imporper


What's "imporper"...???

Nope. If you weren't such an idiot you'd remember what you wrote
a week ago.


making up stuff as a point of fact my partner is female was avoiding it
becuase it wasn't and isn't any of your affair


Your sister? Or mom?

No self-respecting English speaking woman I know would
tolerate a professed liar like you unless they were in your gene pool
or your will.

So he's "guilty" for imparting MORE knowledge than you are capble
of processing...


He imparted no knowledge something you have already agreed


No, I have NOT agreed.

Hans clearly DID "impart knowledge"...YOU, on the otherhand, were
just too stupid to assimilate it.

But you STILL couldn't be polite to him and ask for a better
clarification if you didn't understand...?!?!


I did ask politely

I said "Auf Anglish Bitte"


Why do you insist on trying to look like you can speak German when
you clearly can't even do it in English?

I could have said "answer the question asked ####head" or other far
ruder responses


You basically said that anyway. That WAS the nature, if not
verbatim, response.

I OCCASSIONALLY transpose "h" and "a"...


I can't recallseeing the word have speeled right by you in days


Becasue you haven't been paying attention.

Scroll back.

As opposed to your near-every sentence errors?


"judge not lest ye be judged"


I'll take my chances.

If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.

Not at all


Absolutely.


Stevie YOU insting on means it will not happen if hans asks I will
consider it If Jim Ney asks I will consider it, but the more you go the
less likely i will do it

I do nothing to please you


Sure you do.

And who's "Jim Ney"...???

Hans (nor anyone else) is entitled an apology where no offense was
intended with indaicating in some form he was offended


Obviously he was.


obviously was what?

auf anglish bitte


If you're going to ask a question, Markie, regardless of the
language you're trying to abuse, please use the proper punctuation.

And what part of "offended" do you not understand?

And like I said...if you haven't got the cajones to just offer him
a sincere apology on your own, it's not..well...sincere...


oh I see what you mean now took you long enough to say what you mean
(if you are saying what you mean now)...(SNIP)


Huh?

Then you have been chasing a wild goose form...(SNIP)


A "wild goose form"..?!?!

Is that as opposed to a tame goose form?

How can you tell?

(UNSNIP)...moment one in this thread since of course If aplogize to
Hans now you will not consider it sincere, so logicly thier is
certianly no point in my doing so


Sure there is...

Because it's the right thing to do.

If that's not reason enough, I don't know what is...

Steve, K4YZ


Cmd Buzz Corey July 12th 05 04:32 PM

an_old_idiot wrote:


My rig will not tranmit out band so I am covered there


So what about the sub-bands you are allowed/not allowed to operate on
with you tech license? Do you know which part of the band you are
allowed to operate according to your license? Your Yeasu rig sure
doesn't know. Do you just depend on something else to keep you legal
instead of knowing the rules yourself? Looks like if your rig isn't
smart enough know the rules you're in trouble, because you sure don't
seem that smart.

I am required to obey
not understand

Nothing in part 97 says I have to understand it


So how do you intend to obey rules you don't understand?

an_old_friend July 12th 05 06:00 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


Answer my question, please...

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


well the regular you are referring to by punching the botton on my
radio, Yeaszu and FCC have seen to it that it generates legal types of
signals wether i know the letter codes or not


You are responsible for the proper operation of your radio
station.


agreed

Yeasu (NOT "Yeaszu") is NOT responsible for the emissions of the
radio.


agreed but it can none the less be relied on to to make the right
emissions, indeed I can'r tell if it were not neither can most Hams

Can you test YOUR rig to see that it complies with the rules



My rig will not tranmit out band so I am covered there


Bravo Sierra.


Alpha Tango


E V E R Y RF generating device has the potential of radiating a
signal other than the one designed for.


yep it does your point

If your radio was doing how would YOU know


Ask Lennie.


why you aran't saying something I don't know


Obeying the rules is all that is required.In the case of mode which
sparked this thread.

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


several methods are possible such apllaince operating


"Apllaince operating" does not make you familiar with FCC rules
and regulations.


never said it did


It makes you an "apllaince" operator...that's all.


and makes it a very high likelyhood that I am following the rules


not operating also insures I don't break the rules


And keeps them free of your "dreck".


But the method would work for keeping in complaince


one could count on simple luck (not wise but possible)

I am sure there are additional examples


None of which meet the letter of the spirit of the law.


The letter of spirit of the law?

Auf anglish Bittie

I am only required to obey the letter of the law. I don't have to obey
the Spirit of the law, if I can even devine such without a seance/ The
letter of the spririt in nonsense


SO you're bascially saying that you don't care what the rules are,
you'll just do what you darn well please.


nope not at all

never said that

don't need to what number letter combination is USB in order to use
it, I push a botton on the rig and it does that for me

How do you comply with the regulations if you aren't "familiar"
with them...???


asked and answered


Asked and answered with stupid answers.


stupid to your mind sure maybe but not incorrect


(...as if I expected anything different...?!?!)

And by the way...Yes you ARE required to be familiar with Part 97.

Ask the FCC.

Nope

Uh huh...about what I figured...


I am required to obey
not understand


And you STILL have not adequately explained how you can "obey"
laws that you do not understand.


I have indeed done so I given you an example abolsutely certian of
compling and 2 others that are safe enough

what more is required



Nothing in part 97 says I have to understand it


Your signature on FCC form 660 an the provisions of the
Communications Act of 1934 in Section 310 and others do.


not sure I ever signed a form 660 may have not sure

But the courts have ruled that no one need understand tany rule or law
in order to be held to it, therefore it must be legaly possible to obey
without understanding


And yes, you're supposed to know them. You sign the document.


Supposed, gee that isn't required merely supposed




The line on the back of your license where it says you will abide
by FCC rules and regualtions as thhey pertain to your Amateur Radio
station.


...Abide by the FCC rules and regulation... nothing about understanding
them there

another Stevie LIE


Nope.


yes it says will abide not will understand


You cannot "abide" by laws you do not understand.


yes you can


I am merely required to the USE the airwaves correctly. If i di by use
Tarrot definiation the FCC doesn't care.

Sure they do.


prove it. or even show something that suggests it


Done.


nope


http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices


so what nothing on the pages sates or suggests that the FCC cares
wether the cited enities knew the rules


Show me a Tarot (...not Tarrot) card deck that has Part 97 in it.


Tarrot Torot and Tarot are all vaild speling of the words

and you question merely shows you ignorance of the Tarrot


I know that it's spelled "Tarot" in English.


how ? when did you become the supreme arbiter of english


Indeed in large discussions I generaly id every transmisstion since it
might not get back around to me in 10 minutes

If you didn't cause RF to be emitted, it doesn't matter.


not by what I hear maybe I just don't understand, and htta is what what
some of the old timers claim very loudy at time when they break and
play radio cop


Perhaps if you knew the laws that you are governed by you wouldn't
have to depend on "...not by what I hear..."



perhaps if everyone was a decent human being there would be not need
for laws

or what if angel danced on pin heads


But givent he behavooir of others I choose to ID every signal to avoid
the wanna be radio cops My choice and the FCC doesn't care


And yes, you DON'T understand. Being wilfully ignorant doesn't
excuse you from compliance.


No it doesn't never said it did, but complaince and even willfull
ignorance are possible and legal


Instaead the turth is you up to stalking and harassment but everyone
(except perhaps you) knows that

Nope. You came here. No one forced you.


so

You claim you have the right to stalk and harrass anyone that comes in
your feild of vision?


I'm not stalking anyone nor am I harassing anyone.


lair


You voluntarilly reply to these posts.


so

YOU made the posts concerning my sexuality etc

you did so with the intent to harras



No one dragged you here.


so


But so far YOU keep stealing all my glory by beating me to it.

Then shut up if showing me an idoit is your sole goal and you you feel
I am beating you to it

There's that "idoit" thing again.


so


So you've proven yourself wrong.


no I haven't

you make the claim I have to know the rules in order to obey them

you prove it

I claim it is possible to obey the rules without understanding them

I have done so


Over and over.


yes over and over ignorant cracker


You're holding at 100%.

You just manged to prove YOURself a lair

I am not a lair. Nor am I a liar.


yes you are


Nope. You SAY I am a liar, but you've not yet shown a single one.
(Websters refers...)


I Have many times, mst ly by traping you in your inconsistanies



and you say Hans can't defend himself?

Nope. That's YOU "forging" my words.


then explain what you are doing


I've not forged a single word, Markie.


yes you have


Look up the definition of "forged" in Websters.


do you prefer the word altered?


No. Society can set the parameters by which rude treatment is
determined.


not ture


Absolutely "ture".


not ture


In no way shape or form did Hans cross that line.


says you?


Says everyone EXCEPT you.


say no one BUT you

Hans hasn't even said he did not being condesending


even IF I grant your...(SNIP)


You're not empowered to "grant" me anything, Markie.


yes I am, indeed you hold no power over that I don't grant



You haven't got the proper genetics.


what?

judging by the health of your now dead daughter mine are at least as
proper as yours


YOU did, however....


Auf anglish bitte is a phrase forbidden by Society?


Where did I say it was? (Even if you continue to mispell the
germanic reference to "English"


My response to Hans was

Auf Anglish Bitte

you claim I cross a line in something forbidden by society therefore
you calim my response was forbidden by socity


Bull####


Yes, You are.


more alterations Stevie



I think they need to disperse flyers in your town warning them
about you...No one should allow a 12 year old alone with you.


and more libel from you


Nope.


yes it is


Fact.


Stevie being fact does nopt bear on wether something is Libel



Based upon your own words.


what words?


If I thought you had anything worth taking that is enough to take you
to court for Stevie, at least in the Opinion of a paralegal (my partner
not me)


Uh huh...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!


yea right

you are too poor to be worth it


I don't know who the bigger idiot would be...

You for trying to file such a "case" considering the tons of
admissions of sexual perversion and wilfull mistruthfulness on your
part,


Being homosexaul or bisexual is not ilegal, nor lieing on the Interent

you impling I am a pedophile is and remain Libel (or slander depneding
on wether the net is viewed as written or spoken)

Or your "partner" for suggesting such might be possible
considering the aforementioned evidence that exists in Google archives.


Huh?

again I can free admit to everything you I posted none of which make me
a pedophile as you imply


Then if you "grant" me these "rights" why do you haraas me for using
them?

I don't "grant" you anything.


then you were lieing when you made the statement


I never "granted" you anything. Those are YOUR words...Not mine,
you "forger" ! ! !


your words are below agian

you granted or agreed or conceeded or whatever but you said I had the
rigt below\


" Actually, I consider you to have MORE rights than I consider
necesssary for myself.

Being an idiot is one of them. Being a chronic liar is yet
another.


Yes, you are an idiot and you are a chronic liar.


and you yourself say I have that right

so in hassling me you admit to being a lair


I am not people bashing.


you only engage in personal attack


It's not an attack.


it sure is


It's the truth.


If it were true that has nothing to do with wether it is a personal
attack or not

the 2 words have different meanings

you edit stuff to cover your tracks


Nope.


yes you

I "edit" stuff to keep these posts from being yards and yards
long.


you edit them in distorting ways that convently cover many of your lies


Anyone can go back and review them if they care to...Even you....


and everyone know you distort lie and evade at almost every
oppurturnity


Folks can just surf Google under any of your "KONSTANS"
nomme-de-guerre's you have used.


your point? or do you have one?


Sure.

My point is that anyone can surf Google under any of your
"KONSTANS" nomme-de-guerre's you've used and see what kind of a lyig
creep you are.


what is wrong with using my name online?

you have changed Call sign a few times (4 changes 3 calls by my count)

and where I do deny that I do lie

I do reservse to right to point out where you make up things I never
said, but I am not honest about many facts in my bio. I have my
reasons, and it is my right.



They can also surf KB9RQZ, "MWMORGAN" and a plethora of othr names
you've come and gone under as you bounce from ISP to ISP...


you oppose shoping for better deals on interent?


Speaking of which, I can only hope and pray that you finally
ditched that ISP you alleged was charging you $5/hr.


well I still subcribe to their service for use when I travel, since the
5$/hour rate came wit the use of a 1-800number to reach them was
cheaper than paying long distance


Only in that you suggest something improper. My REAL intent was
to try and get you to spontaneously issue Hans an apology for your
smart mouth and abuse of his rendering of information to you.

That is an improper intent, and one doomed to failure

Doomed to failure, perhaps.


a begining boyo


Huh?


a beging that you begin realize something boyo


Not improper, however.


It is imporper


What's "imporper"...???


aren't you claiming to be the sole judge of that Stevie and you don't
know


Nope. If you weren't such an idiot you'd remember what you wrote
a week ago.


making up stuff as a point of fact my partner is female was avoiding it
becuase it wasn't and isn't any of your affair


Your sister? Or mom?


more libel


No self-respecting English speaking woman I know would
tolerate a professed liar like you unless they were in your gene pool
or your will.


you have a limited aquantanceship, but then she is in my will of course
isn't your wifein yours?

as to wether she is self respecting you have never met me now you
presume to judge a women you have not even read her words?


So he's "guilty" for imparting MORE knowledge than you are capble
of processing...


He imparted no knowledge something you have already agreed


No, I have NOT agreed.

Hans clearly DID "impart knowledge"...YOU, on the otherhand, were
just too stupid to assimilate it.


whcih means you agree he imparted nothing to me, for what ever reason



But you STILL couldn't be polite to him and ask for a better
clarification if you didn't understand...?!?!


I did ask politely

I said "Auf Anglish Bitte"


Why do you insist on trying to look like you can speak German when
you clearly can't even do it in English?


huh?

I am trying to make it look like I speak german?

news to me


Auf Anglish bitte

oder auf Deutche bitte

prehaps you will make more sense in german

If I wrote Je parle Fransse that would I was trying to show people I
speak french?


I could have said "answer the question asked ####head" or other far
ruder responses


You basically said that anyway. That WAS the nature, if not
verbatim, response.


no it wasn't


I OCCASSIONALLY transpose "h" and "a"...


I can't recallseeing the word have speeled right by you in days


Becasue you haven't been paying attention.

Scroll back.


have done can't find where you spell have correctly

You do seem to spell haven't ok but not Have itself it s a stranage
thing

As opposed to your near-every sentence errors?


"judge not lest ye be judged"


I'll take my chances.


you certainly do


If you don't consider it pertinent to do so without his asking,
then you're obviously not sincere.

Not at all

Absolutely.


Stevie YOU insting on means it will not happen if hans asks I will
consider it If Jim Ney asks I will consider it, but the more you go the
less likely i will do it

I do nothing to please you


Sure you do.


reallY then of course what is your beef?


And who's "Jim Ney"...???


Jim you he is round here


Hans (nor anyone else) is entitled an apology where no offense was
intended with indaicating in some form he was offended

Obviously he was.


obviously was what?

auf anglish bitte


If you're going to ask a question, Markie, regardless of the
language you're trying to abuse, please use the proper punctuation.


why?


And what part of "offended" do you not understand?


no part but Hans and Hans alone is a proper judge of wether Hans was
offended, not Stevie, Unless of you are posting as Hans yourself and as
Stevie

Hans can ask and I'll consider it, Bill Sohl could ask and Id consdier
it etc, I don't do it for Stevie


And like I said...if you haven't got the cajones to just offer him
a sincere apology on your own, it's not..well...sincere...


oh I see what you mean now took you long enough to say what you mean
(if you are saying what you mean now)...(SNIP)


Huh?


clear enough slerly than your intent has been


Then you have been chasing a wild goose form...(SNIP)


A "wild goose form"..?!?!

Is that as opposed to a tame goose form?

How can you tell?


Don't you know?


(UNSNIP)...moment one in this thread since of course If aplogize to
Hans now you will not consider it sincere, so logicly thier is
certianly no point in my doing so


Sure there is...

Because it's the right thing to do.


according to you No it would not be

since IF i were to apoligize to Hans without meaning it then I would be
making another LIE, and to you lying is basical evil

so NOw you want to do what you take me to task for all the time?

Lie?

If that's not reason enough, I don't know what is...


you got that right Stevie you don't what is

Steve, K4YZ



an_old_friend July 12th 05 08:14 PM



Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
an_old_idiot wrote:


forgery btw


My rig will not tranmit out band so I am covered there


So what about the sub-bands you are allowed/not allowed to operate on
with you tech license? Do you know which part of the band you are
allowed to operate according to your license? Your Yeasu rig sure
doesn't know. Do you just depend on something else to keep you legal
instead of knowing the rules yourself? Looks like if your rig isn't
smart enough know the rules you're in trouble, because you sure don't
seem that smart.


gee what part of which Band has space restircted from tech operating

Tech like myself Have no prevlidges below 30 MHZ and all prevlidges
above


Don't YOU know that?

I did not say I depended on .. but that I could pretty much if I chose

But there is NO current need for me to know much of anything below 30
MHZ except what concerns the aurgments I may make

One's abilty to follow the rules is improved by some understanding of
the rules, However may contention that it is possible not to understand
and legaly operate satnds


I am required to obey
not understand

Nothing in part 97 says I have to understand it


So how do you intend to obey rules you don't understand?


asked and answered


an_old_friend July 12th 05 08:16 PM

Still No answer to this Stevie

b.b. wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


Two, No I am not required to be famiar with them, I am merely required
to obey them.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! !

I am going to wait with bated breath while you try to spin up an
explanation as to how you are not required to "be familiar" with the
regulations of the radio service in which you are a licensee, yet you
ARE required to obey them.... ! ! !


break


"Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

IOW, a person can be ignorant of the law, and yet they must obey the
law.

Or are you too ignorant to see that?


Why Steve no answer?


Still No answer and yet you seem to have come and gone for the day

That is becuase it is true


KØHB July 12th 05 10:14 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote


Can you test YOUR rig to see that it complies with the rules


Yes, as required by §97.103(a) and §97.105(a).

Can't you?

73, de Hans, K0HB




an_old_friend July 12th 05 10:32 PM



K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote


Can you test YOUR rig to see that it complies with the rules



why did you edit out the fact i was asking Stevie

Yes, as required by =A797.103(a) and =A797.105(a).


Sec. 97.105 Control operator duties.


(a) The control operator must ensure the immediate proper operation

of the station, regardless of the type of control.
(b) A station may only be operated in the manner and to the extent
permitted by the privileges authorized for the class of operator
license
held by the control operator.


Sec. 97.103 Station licensee responsibilities.

(a) The station licensee is responsible for the proper operation of

the station in accordance with the FCC Rules. When the control operator

is a different amateur operator than the station licensee, both persons

are equally responsible for proper operation of the station.
(b) The station licensee must designate the station control
operator. The FCC will presume that the station licensee is also the
control operator, unless documentation to the contrary is in the
station
records.
(c) The station licensee must make the station and the station
records available for inspection upon request by an FCC representative.

When deemed necessary by an EIC to assure compliance with the FCC
Rules,
the station licensee must maintain a record of station operations
containing such items of information as the EIC may require in accord
with Sec. 0.314(x) of the FCC Rules.


nothing in the citied section reqiuring me to be able to test the
emission of my rig

=20
Can't you?


By that I don't have too

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB



Cmd Buzz Corey July 12th 05 10:35 PM

an_old_friend wrote:
gee what part of which Band has space restircted from tech operating

Tech like myself Have no prevlidges below 30 MHZ and all prevlidges
above


Don't YOU know that?


I am surprised you do as you say you don't need to understand the rules.

Cmd Buzz Corey July 12th 05 10:42 PM

an_old_friend wrote:


Can you test YOUR rig to see that it complies with the rules


Sure can. Can you? No? I believe that somewhere in the rules it say you
should be able to. But then you don't understand the rules.

KØHB July 12th 05 10:43 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote


By that I don't have too



If you are responsible for proper operation of your station (and those rules
apply equally above 30MHz as they do below), then you must have a method to
determine that your station complies with the Rules. How do you do that at your
station?

73, de Hans, K0HB





Cmd Buzz Corey July 12th 05 10:51 PM

KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote


By that I don't have too




If you are responsible for proper operation of your station (and those rules
apply equally above 30MHz as they do below), then you must have a method to
determine that your station complies with the Rules. How do you do that at your
station?

73, de Hans, K0HB




He hasn't a clue, he just hopes his radio will always work properly and
even if it does it can't compensate for any misunderstanding on his part
about operating it properly.


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