K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...

Hans I copied from FCC.gov


=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it doesn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in detail =
the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions of the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".

"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advan=
ced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, =
5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that=
their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (=
e=2Er.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will=
be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calcu=
lation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain o=
f 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either =
the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain=
.. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in =
the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

"an_old_friend" wrote

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)

73, de Hans, K0HB

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)

but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you when you click through
thier link "Rules and regulations"

I don't know where you got it

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

"an_old_friend" wrote

but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you
when you click through thier link "Rules and regulations"

Yes, it is.

I don't know where you got it

I'll give you step-by-step directions.

1) Start at http://www.fcc.gov

2) On the right column of that page, click the "Wireless Telecommunications"
link.

3) When that page loads, in the left column click the "Rules and Regulations"
link.

4) A new frame comes up. Scroll down and click "97 Amateur radio service"

5) On the page which loads, click the link near the top ending in
"...47cfr97_04.html"

6) On the page which loads, scroll down and click the pdf icon for "97.303"

7) Scroll to the bottom of page 605 and read:

"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, 5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (e.r.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calculation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain of 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."

73, de Hans, K0HB

K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you
when you click through thier link "Rules and regulations"

Yes, it is.

I don't know where you got it

I'll give you step-by-step directions.

1) Start at http://www.fcc.gov

2) On the right column of that page, click the "Wireless Telecommunicatio=
ns"
link.

3) When that page loads, in the left column click the "Rules and Regulati=
ons"
link.

4) A new frame comes up. Scroll down and click "97 Amateur radio servic=
e"

5) On the page which loads, click the link near the top ending in
"...47cfr97_04.html"

6) On the page which loads, scroll down and click the pdf icon for "97.30=
3"

7) Scroll to the bottom of page 605 and read:


Amusing that at FCC.gov there is a link labeled rules and regulation
anf then you scroll for part 97 and you get something diferent


"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advan=
ced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, =
5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that=
their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (=
e=2Er.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will=
be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calcu=
lation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain o=
f 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either =
the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain=
.. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in =
the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB

"an_old_friend" wrote


Amusing that at FCC.gov there is a link labeled rules
and regulation anf then you scroll for part 97 and you
get something diferent

Nope. Just skip Step 2 in my list. I just tried it, and it takes you to
EXACTLY the same place.

Bottom line of this whole Chinese fire drill....

..... your opening statement in this thread about "no mention" is disproven.
There's a whole paragraph devoted to "mentioning" the topic, placed there 2
years ago in July of 2003 by Docket 02-98.

Good luck on this one now!

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB

From: K0HB on Jul 12, 6:33 pm

an_old_friend" wrote

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)

Incorrect. You got it from the GPO website (Government Printing
Office). [FCC website will link all users to the GPO website]

The ONLY Parts of Title 47 available AT the FCC webiste is a
"courtesy copy" of Part 15 regulations.

Title 47 C.F.R. is published at two-year intervals. For
CHANGES to any Part, you and all others can get them from
NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) via the
Federal Register website.

bit bit

wrote

You got it from the GPO website (Government Printing
Office). [FCC website will link all users to the GPO website]

Wherever it physically (virtually?) resides, it is directly accessable from the
http://www.fcc.gov website "Rules and Regulations" link which Todd asserts it is
NOT accessable from. He did some half-vast browsing, told me it wasn't
accessable, but now has step-by-step directions to reach it.

You can lead a Todd to water......

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB

wrote:

The ONLY Parts of Title 47 available AT the FCC webiste...(SNIP)

See what being Markie's buddy get's you, Lennie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ

"an_old_friend" wrote

Hans I copied from FCC.gov

So did I.

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

Yes, it is.

73, de Hans, K0HB