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an_old_friend July 12th 05 10:38 PM

a cmoment about Part 97
 
Sec. 97.305 Authorized emission types.
(a) An amateur station may transmit a CW emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator.


and

75 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
40 m 7.000-7.100 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.075-7.100 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (9), (11).
40 m 7.100-7.150 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.150-7.300 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).


No mention int the section of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all


KØHB July 12th 05 10:51 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...


§97.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it doesn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in detail the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions of the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".

"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, 5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (e.r.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calculation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain of 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."

73, de Hans, K0HB



an_old_friend July 12th 05 11:27 PM



K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...


Hans I copied from FCC.gov


=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it doesn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in detail =

the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions of the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".

"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advan=

ced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, =

5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that=

their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (=

e=2Er.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will=

be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calcu=

lation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain o=

f 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either =

the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain=

.. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in =

the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."


That Is not accessable from the FCC's website

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB



KØHB July 12th 05 11:33 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website


I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)

73, de Hans, K0HB





Dee Flint July 13th 05 12:02 AM


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sec. 97.305 Authorized emission types.
(a) An amateur station may transmit a CW emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator.


and

75 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
40 m 7.000-7.100 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.075-7.100 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (9), (11).
40 m 7.100-7.150 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.150-7.300 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).


No mention int the section of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all


You have an out-of-date copy or website.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



an_old_friend July 13th 05 12:15 AM


pre4haps but that is where the FCC sent me


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sec. 97.305 Authorized emission types.
(a) An amateur station may transmit a CW emission on any frequency
authorized to the control operator.


and

75 m Entire band.......... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).
40 m 7.000-7.100 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.075-7.100 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2), (9), (11).
40 m 7.100-7.150 MHz...... RTTY,
data........................ (3), (9).
40 m 7.150-7.300 MHz...... Phone,
image...................... (1), (2).


No mention int the section of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all


You have an out-of-date copy or website.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



an_old_friend July 13th 05 12:18 AM



K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website


I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)


but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you when you click through
thier link "Rules and regulations"

I don't know where you got it

=20
73, de Hans, K0HB



[email protected] July 13th 05 12:30 AM

From: K0HB on Jul 12, 6:33 pm

an_old_friend" wrote


That Is not accessable from the FCC's website


I got it from the FCC website. (Did you think I made it up?)


Incorrect. You got it from the GPO website (Government Printing
Office). [FCC website will link all users to the GPO website]

The ONLY Parts of Title 47 available AT the FCC webiste is a
"courtesy copy" of Part 15 regulations.

Title 47 C.F.R. is published at two-year intervals. For
CHANGES to any Part, you and all others can get them from
NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) via the
Federal Register website.

bit bit



KØHB July 13th 05 02:25 AM


"an_old_friend" wrote

but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you
when you click through thier link "Rules and regulations"


Yes, it is.

I don't know where you got it


I'll give you step-by-step directions.

1) Start at http://www.fcc.gov

2) On the right column of that page, click the "Wireless Telecommunications"
link.

3) When that page loads, in the left column click the "Rules and Regulations"
link.

4) A new frame comes up. Scroll down and click "97 Amateur radio service"

5) On the page which loads, click the link near the top ending in
"...47cfr97_04.html"

6) On the page which loads, scroll down and click the pdf icon for "97.303"

7) Scroll to the bottom of page 605 and read:

"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, 5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (e.r.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calculation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain of 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."

73, de Hans, K0HB



KØHB July 13th 05 03:19 AM


wrote

You got it from the GPO website (Government Printing
Office). [FCC website will link all users to the GPO website]


Wherever it physically (virtually?) resides, it is directly accessable from the
http://www.fcc.gov website "Rules and Regulations" link which Todd asserts it is
NOT accessable from. He did some half-vast browsing, told me it wasn't
accessable, but now has step-by-step directions to reach it.

You can lead a Todd to water......

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB




an_old_friend July 13th 05 04:34 AM



K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

but that is NOT what clicking on FCC.gov get you
when you click through thier link "Rules and regulations"


Yes, it is.

I don't know where you got it


I'll give you step-by-step directions.

1) Start at http://www.fcc.gov

2) On the right column of that page, click the "Wireless Telecommunicatio=

ns"
link.

3) When that page loads, in the left column click the "Rules and Regulati=

ons"
link.

4) A new frame comes up. Scroll down and click "97 Amateur radio servic=

e"

5) On the page which loads, click the link near the top ending in
"...47cfr97_04.html"

6) On the page which loads, scroll down and click the pdf icon for "97.30=

3"

7) Scroll to the bottom of page 605 and read:



Amusing that at FCC.gov there is a link labeled rules and regulation
anf then you scroll for part 97 and you get something diferent


"97.303(s) An amateur station having an operator holding a General, Advan=

ced or
Amateur Extra Class license may only transmit single sideband, suppressed
carrier, (emission type 2K8J3E) upper sideband on the channels 5332 kHz, =

5348
kHz, 5368 kHz, 5373 kHz, and 5405 kHz. Amateur stations shall ensure that=

their
transmission occupies only the 2.8 kHz centered around each of these
frequencies. Transmissions shall not exceed an effective radiated power (=

e=2Er.p.)
of 50 W PEP. For the purpose of computing e.r.p. the transmitter PEP will=

be
multiplied with the antenna gain relative to a dipole or equivalent calcu=

lation
in decibels. A half wave dipole antenna will be presumed to have a gain o=

f 0
dBd. Licenses using other antennas must maintain in their records either =

the
manufacturer data on the antenna gain or calculations of the antenna gain=

.. No
amateur station may cause harmful interference to stations authorized in =

the
mobile and fixed services; nor is any amateur station protected from
interference due to the operation of any such station."
=20
73, de Hans, K0HB



KØHB July 13th 05 05:48 AM


"an_old_friend" wrote


Amusing that at FCC.gov there is a link labeled rules
and regulation anf then you scroll for part 97 and you
get something diferent


Nope. Just skip Step 2 in my list. I just tried it, and it takes you to
EXACTLY the same place.

Bottom line of this whole Chinese fire drill....

..... your opening statement in this thread about "no mention" is disproven.
There's a whole paragraph devoted to "mentioning" the topic, placed there 2
years ago in July of 2003 by Docket 02-98.

Good luck on this one now!

dit dit
de Hans, K0HB




K4YZ July 13th 05 09:13 AM



wrote:

The ONLY Parts of Title 47 available AT the FCC webiste...(SNIP)


See what being Markie's buddy get's you, Lennie...?!?!

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ July 13th 05 09:24 AM



K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...


=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it doesn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in detail =

the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions of the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".


Markie doesn't like getting his nose just RUBBBED in
something...he has to have it slammed, poked, jabbed and nearly ripped
off until the point gets through to him.

See y'all on "60 metters"...! All except Markie and Lennie, that
is!

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 14th 05 04:56 PM



K4YZ wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...


=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it doesn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in detai=

l the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions of =

the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".


Markie doesn't like getting his nose just RUBBBED in
something...he has to have it slammed, poked, jabbed and nearly ripped
off until the point gets through to him.

See y'all on "60 metters"...! All except Markie and Lennie, that
is!


as is normal for HIm Steve chooses to post without bothing with the
subject
=20
Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 14th 05 05:13 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...

=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it does=

n't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in det=

ail the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions o=

f the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".


Markie doesn't like getting his nose just RUBBBED in
something...he has to have it slammed, poked, jabbed and nearly ripped
off until the point gets through to him.

See y'all on "60 metters"...! All except Markie and Lennie, that
is!


as is normal for HIm Steve chooses to post without bothing with the
subject


It had everything to do with the subject, Markie. You.

For the last 2 weeks I've been berating you for your childish,
uncivil behaviour towards Hans. You treated him rudely, and there was
no excuse for it.

Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.

This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.

It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 14th 05 06:11 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

...of any restriction of modes on 60m nor any
mention of 60 metter in part 97 at all...

=A797.303(s) is very clear on the topic. You're correct that it do=

esn't
specifically call it a "60 metter" band, but it DOES spell out in d=

etail the
mode restrictions and other technical requirements and restrictions=

of the
frequencies I think you call "60 metters".

Markie doesn't like getting his nose just RUBBBED in
something...he has to have it slammed, poked, jabbed and nearly ripped
off until the point gets through to him.

See y'all on "60 metters"...! All except Markie and Lennie, that
is!


as is normal for HIm Steve chooses to post without bothing with the
subject


break

It had everything to do with the subject, Markie. You.


Nope the Subject was amonoulous data coming fromt the FCC on the Rules
of the ARS

For the last 2 weeks I've been berating you for your childish,
uncivil behaviour towards Hans. You treated him rudely, and there was
no excuse for it.


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov


Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.


no I was comening on content of FCC.gov

you are the one that never let anything drop

You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998

This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.


nope

It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.
=20
Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 14th 05 07:42 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


It had everything to do with the subject, Markie. You.


Nope the Subject was amonoulous data coming fromt the FCC on the Rules
of the ARS


Nope.

It had to do with YOUR gross ignorance and inability to comprehend
even the

For the last 2 weeks I've been berating you for your childish,
uncivil behaviour towards Hans. You treated him rudely, and there was
no excuse for it.


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov


I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.

Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.


no I was comening on content of FCC.gov


You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.

It backfired on you.

you are the one that never let anything drop


Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.

You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998


You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.

And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous

This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.


nope


Yep. And it STILL didn't work.

It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.


Do you not see that there's nothing you do that even the most
common of common sense can't see through, Markie? You're SO
transparent that one not need be a gastroenerologist to see where your
head is....

Steve, K4yz


an_old_friend July 14th 05 08:55 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


It had everything to do with the subject, Markie. You.


Nope the Subject was amonoulous data coming fromt the FCC on the Rules
of the ARS


Nope.

It had to do with YOUR gross ignorance and inability to comprehend
even the


even the ...


gues you can't even read the topic


For the last 2 weeks I've been berating you for your childish,
uncivil behaviour towards Hans. You treated him rudely, and there was
no excuse for it.


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov


I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.


I found something very different
as well as what Hans posted


Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.


no I was comening on content of FCC.gov


You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.


nope


It backfired on you.


Back fired how?

You decided as expected to attack anything and everything I post



you are the one that never let anything drop


Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.


more threats


You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998


You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.


which harms you how? affect you how?

I still use concentric on the road to gather my email why does that
concern you?


And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous


you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you


This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.


nope


Yep. And it STILL didn't work.


wasn't doin git



It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.


Do you not see that there's nothing you do that even the most
common of common sense can't see through, Markie? You're SO
transparent that one not need be a gastroenerologist to see where your
head is....


Stevie grow up


Steve, K4yz



K4YZ July 14th 05 09:39 PM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov


I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.


I found something very different as well as what Hans posted


I am sure that you find a lot of things very different, Markie.

Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.

no I was comening on content of FCC.gov


You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.


nope


Absolutely. First you claim that you want the information. Then
you insult the person who gives it to you. Then you claim you don't
need to know anyway, but then open another thread about Part 97 IRT "60
mettres"

It backfired on you.


Back fired how?

You decided as expected to attack anything and everything I post


Not everything. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.

you are the one that never let anything drop


Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.


more threats


Nope.

Just a figure of speech.

You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998


You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.


which harms you how? affect you how?


It doesn't. I just laugh out loud when you complain about it on
the one hand, then defend it on the other.

I still use concentric on the road to gather my email why does that
concern you?


Concentric what?

And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous


you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you


You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)

This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.

nope


Yep. And it STILL didn't work.


wasn't doin git


Huh?

It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.


Do you not see that there's nothing you do that even the most
common of common sense can't see through, Markie? You're SO
transparent that one not need be a gastroenerologist to see where your
head is....


Stevie grow up


Back at ya, LiarBoy.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 14th 05 10:02 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov

I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.


I found something very different as well as what Hans posted


I am sure that you find a lot of things very different, Markie.


then you admit I am right so lets move on


Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.

no I was comening on content of FCC.gov

You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.


nope


Absolutely. First you claim that you want the information. Then
you insult the person who gives it to you. Then you claim you don't
need to know anyway, but then open another thread about Part 97 IRT "60
mettres"


so? you berate for not doing my reasearch and then berate for doing it


It backfired on you.


Back fired how?

You decided as expected to attack anything and everything I post


Not everything. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.


evrything


you are the one that never let anything drop

Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.


more threats


Nope.

Just a figure of speech.


a threatening one

but you admit it more bluster then

BTW we will see what Aol thinks of you Some has Aids post. Likely
nothing as AOl is notorious for toleating the abuse of folks from their
domain


You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998

You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.


which harms you how? affect you how?


It doesn't. I just laugh out loud when you complain about it on
the one hand, then defend it on the other.


again with the distoritons


I still use concentric on the road to gather my email why does that
concern you?


Concentric what?


concetric they have another name but they use use the domain last time
I cjecked


And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous


you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you


You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)


yes I was you were ranting and raving


This had zero-point-squat to do with your "cmoment about Part
97"....It had everything to do with you trying to find some way out of
the spanking you were taking for your behaviour. You were looking for
SOME vector to allow you to redirect ANY of that to Hans.

nope

Yep. And it STILL didn't work.


wasn't doin git


Huh?

It didn't work. Landed right back in YOUR lap AGAIN.

Do you not see that there's nothing you do that even the most
common of common sense can't see through, Markie? You're SO
transparent that one not need be a gastroenerologist to see where your
head is....


Stevie grow up


Back at ya, LiarBoy.


I am adult not sure you are even human


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 03:42 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov

I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.

I found something very different as well as what Hans posted


I am sure that you find a lot of things very different, Markie.


then you admit I am right so lets move on


I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...

I said you find them different.

"Different" is not "right"...

Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.

no I was comening on content of FCC.gov

You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.

nope


Absolutely. First you claim that you want the information. Then
you insult the person who gives it to you. Then you claim you don't
need to know anyway, but then open another thread about Part 97 IRT "60
mettres"


so? you berate for not doing my reasearch and then berate for doing it


No. I am just berating you for being a rude punk.

It backfired on you.

Back fired how?

You decided as expected to attack anything and everything I post


Not everything. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.


evrything


Nope. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.

Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!

you are the one that never let anything drop

Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.

more threats


Nope.

Just a figure of speech.


a threatening one


Nope. One used quite frequently in common American lexicon.

but you admit it more bluster then


Nope.

BTW we will see what Aol thinks of you Some has Aids post. Likely
nothing as AOl is notorious for toleating the abuse of folks from their
domain


Since I clearly defined what AIDS stood for, good luck.

You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...

You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998

You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.

which harms you how? affect you how?


It doesn't. I just laugh out loud when you complain about it on
the one hand, then defend it on the other.


again with the distoritons


No distortions.

Facts.

"Back in the day" you used to claim that you were paying those
rediculous fees and as such refused to keep these discussions in e
mail.

The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.

No problem. You certainly provide enough materail to work with.

I still use concentric on the road to gather my email why does that
concern you?


Concentric what?


concetric they have another name but they use use the domain last time
I cjecked


That sentence made no sense at all.

And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous

you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you


You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)


yes I was you were ranting and raving


Nope. Just pointing out your inconsistencies.

Again...there are so many to work with...

Stevie grow up


Back at ya, LiarBoy.


I am adult not sure you are even human


Your body may have reached the age of majority, Markie, but there
is STRONG evidence that you have some very significant development
issues yet to be resolved.

First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 04:49 AM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

wether I was or wasnt has nothing to do with what posted and accesd
through FCC.gov

I found the items Hans was refering to without the slightest
impediment or error.

I found something very different as well as what Hans posted

I am sure that you find a lot of things very different, Markie.


then you admit I am right so lets move on


I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...


yes you did


I said you find them different.

"Different" is not "right"...


nor is it wrong

you see things deferently than I

Grow up and get over it


Hans already gave you the exact information that you needed...And
THEN you said "I don't need to know that since I can't operate
there"...Well...Obviously it's an issue for you since you DO keep going
"there".

So instead of letting it drop, you further exacerbate the issue by
opening a whole new thread and get your nose rubbed even deeper in your
arrogance and ignorance.

no I was comening on content of FCC.gov

You were trying to find a way out of the public spanking you've
been taking for your rude behaviour.

nope

Absolutely. First you claim that you want the information. Then
you insult the person who gives it to you. Then you claim you don't
need to know anyway, but then open another thread about Part 97 IRT "60
mettres"


so? you berate for not doing my reasearch and then berate for doing it


No. I am just berating you for being a rude punk.


rude to ask question

**** you

It backfired on you.

Back fired how?

You decided as expected to attack anything and everything I post

Not everything. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.


evrything


Nope. Just the assinine, idiotic and mistruthful parts.


everything


Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!


Nope I am not I am asaying that you claim everthing is assinine idoitic
and un truthfull Never seen the word Mistruthful before


you are the one that never let anything drop

Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.

more threats

Nope.

Just a figure of speech.


a threatening one


Nope. One used quite frequently in common American lexicon.


which does not alter its threatening nature esp from a guy saying "one
shot one Kill even in illiopolis"


but you admit it more bluster then


Nope.


then you are lying if not admiting bluster


BTW we will see what Aol thinks of you Some has Aids post. Likely
nothing as AOl is notorious for toleating the abuse of folks from their
domain


Since I clearly defined what AIDS stood for, good luck.


you header is enough in theory


You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...


what didn't I define?



You are still harrasing me about changing ISP's In 1998

You just stated 2 days ago that you allegedly continue to use the
fictitious $5.00/hr ISP.

which harms you how? affect you how?

It doesn't. I just laugh out loud when you complain about it on
the one hand, then defend it on the other.


again with the distoritons


No distortions.


plenty of distorion



Facts.

"Back in the day" you used to claim that you were paying those
rediculous fees and as such refused to keep these discussions in e
mail.


I complains about paying for your dreck twice

any other statemnt is a lie on your part


The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.


another Stevie Lie


No problem. You certainly provide enough materail to work with.


sadist then


I still use concentric on the road to gather my email why does that
concern you?

Concentric what?


concetric they have another name but they use use the domain last time
I cjecked


That sentence made no sense at all.


to you nothing I say makes sense so?


And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous

you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you

You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)


yes I was you were ranting and raving


Nope. Just pointing out your inconsistencies.


what in consitancies

you frabricate some kind of intent to decieve out of changing ISP
sorely to confuse you and others


Again...there are so many to work with...


all in your head


Stevie grow up

Back at ya, LiarBoy.


I am adult not sure you are even human


Your body may have reached the age of majority, Markie, but there
is STRONG evidence that you have some very significant development
issues yet to be resolved.


and you display signs that you are dangerously unbalanced


First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.


I understand english but you are not using english very well either


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 05:08 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


then you admit I am right so lets move on


I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...


yes you did


We've found yet ANOTHER MarkieLie.

I said you find them different.

"Different" is not "right"...


nor is it wrong

you see things deferently than I

Grow up and get over it


In this case I AM "right". Not that it takes a rocket
scientist to be so with you.

so? you berate for not doing my reasearch and then berate for doing it


No. I am just berating you for being a rude punk.


rude to ask question


No. Rude for treating Hans the way you did for ANSWERING your
question.

#### you


Now see...there you go with your sexual deviance again.

Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!


Nope I am not I am asaying that you claim everthing is assinine idoitic
and un truthfull Never seen the word Mistruthful before


And I've never seen the word "truthfull" either.

"Mistruthful" is in Websters.

you are the one that never let anything drop

Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.

more threats

Nope.

Just a figure of speech.

a threatening one


Nope. One used quite frequently in common American lexicon.


which does not alter its threatening nature esp from a guy saying "one
shot one Kill even in illiopolis"


More out-of-context quotes, Markie!

Forgot your "Is that your best shot" comment that inspired the
response?

but you admit it more bluster then


Nope.


then you are lying if not admiting bluster


It's not lying, nor was the comment "bluster".

BTW we will see what Aol thinks of you Some has Aids post. Likely
nothing as AOl is notorious for toleating the abuse of folks from their
domain


Since I clearly defined what AIDS stood for, good luck.


you header is enough in theory


That you have some minimum quantity of human DNA qualifies you as
a human...

in theory...

You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...


what didn't I define?


About half of your uses of words.

Like "drafted" until a year later....

No distortions.


plenty of distorion


Only yours. Markie.

Facts.

"Back in the day" you used to claim that you were paying those
rediculous fees and as such refused to keep these discussions in e
mail.


I complains about paying for your dreck twice

any other statemnt is a lie on your part


Nope.

I sent you several letters to keep thsi stuff off the board.

You came to the board and lied, saying I was threatening you, and
costing you all that money for your ISP.

The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.


another Stevie Lie


Nope.

No problem. You certainly provide enough material to work with.


sadist then


Nope.

concetric they have another name but they use use the domain last time
I cjecked


That sentence made no sense at all.


to you nothing I say makes sense so?


So fix it.

And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous

you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you

You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)

yes I was you were ranting and raving


Nope. Just pointing out your inconsistencies.


what in consitancies

you frabricate some kind of intent to decieve out of changing ISP
sorely to confuse you and others


You do.

Like lying about your "identity" when you changed screen
names...trying to make it appear as though there were "others" who
supported you, when indeed all it was WAS you...

Again...there are so many to work with...


all in your head


Nope.

All from your keyboard.

Stevie grow up

Back at ya, LiarBoy.

I am adult not sure you are even human


Your body may have reached the age of majority, Markie, but there
is STRONG evidence that you have some very significant development
issues yet to be resolved.


and you display signs that you are dangerously unbalanced


And you claim I make comments "not in your fiield"

Please, Markie...

Tell us of YOUR credentials to determine mental instability...!

First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.


I understand english but you are not using english very well either


If you understood English well, you'd have a better than average
likelyhood of spelling it correctly.

Obviously I was correct.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 05:31 AM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


then you admit I am right so lets move on

I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...


yes you did


We've found yet ANOTHER MarkieLie.


nope first you hack out the post and then you enter with another lie


I said you find them different.

"Different" is not "right"...


nor is it wrong

you see things deferently than I

Grow up and get over it


In this case I AM "right". Not that it takes a rocket
scientist to be so with you.


no you simply see things differently

and you refuse to accept that I will ans should respond to things as I
preceive them


so? you berate for not doing my reasearch and then berate for doing it

No. I am just berating you for being a rude punk.


rude to ask question


No. Rude for treating Hans the way you did for ANSWERING your
question.


stevie you are flaimng me for reareaching part 97 which you complained
I wasn't doing

making up wityhput eveident that I am trying to decieve folks

you are a paraniod

and obseesed


#### you


Now see...there you go with your sexual deviance again.


**** you

**** off

the use of language you don't like is not eveidennce of sexual
devaiance

even if I wanted to **** your butt that would not be a sign a deviance
merely a lack of taste


Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!


Nope I am not I am asaying that you claim everthing is assinine idoitic
and un truthfull Never seen the word Mistruthful before


And I've never seen the word "truthfull" either.


lie

Ich habe 'truthfull" im desse Morgan schriben

"Mistruthful" is in Websters.


never seen it before


you are the one that never let anything drop

Sure I can. As a matter of fact, I'm letting the hammer drop on
you right now.

more threats

Nope.

Just a figure of speech.

a threatening one

Nope. One used quite frequently in common American lexicon.


which does not alter its threatening nature esp from a guy saying "one
shot one Kill even in illiopolis"


More out-of-context quotes, Markie!


nope


Forgot your "Is that your best shot" comment that inspired the
response?


nope


but you admit it more bluster then

Nope.


then you are lying if not admiting bluster


It's not lying, nor was the comment "bluster".


yes it was

BTW we will see what Aol thinks of you Some has Aids post. Likely
nothing as AOl is notorious for toleating the abuse of folks from their
domain

Since I clearly defined what AIDS stood for, good luck.


you header is enough in theory


That you have some minimum quantity of human DNA qualifies you as
a human...


huh


I have 100% Hukman DNA

in theory...


In fact too but your point?




You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...


what didn't I define?


About half of your uses of words.


Stevie noone can gues what distorted uses you will aply to words


witness your torture of the words CLaim



Like "drafted" until a year later....


Lair

answers as soon as you asked

a amatter of days

You needed reapeated a year later and again 6 years later



No distortions.


plenty of distorion


Only yours. Markie.


nope


Facts.

"Back in the day" you used to claim that you were paying those
rediculous fees and as such refused to keep these discussions in e
mail.


I complains about paying for your dreck twice

any other statemnt is a lie on your part


Nope.


yes it is


I sent you several letters to keep thsi stuff off the board.


you sent abusive and threatening letters off the borad

you demanded I stop posting or you would out me on RRAP as Gay (dispite
my being Bisexual)

You are a blackmailer, and a foolish one since don't my sxual
orientation just don't advertise it

You came to the board and lied, saying I was threatening you, and
costing you all that money for your ISP.


you were blackmailing me

you were also sending a copy of every post to me both in RRAP and in
private Email

wasting my time and money


The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.


another Stevie Lie


Nope.


yes

You don't humilate me. anoy harrass stalker threaten me yes humilate me
no

therefore it is a lie to say I like being humilated since it doesn't
happen

You might be humilatied if treated the way you trat me, but it is old
home week for me


No problem. You certainly provide enough material to work with.


sadist then


Nope.


since you claim to enjoy trying to humilate me you are a sadist


concetric they have another name but they use use the domain last time
I cjecked

That sentence made no sense at all.


to you nothing I say makes sense so?


So fix it.


why?

you are still ranting on about my changing ISP's 6 years ago



And it wasn't about changing ISP's to which I alluded...It was to
your humourous

you were going on and on about the ISP, one would tend to assume you
were tlaking about what you were saying but even that is rash with you

You weren't paying attention. (news there, eh?)

yes I was you were ranting and raving

Nope. Just pointing out your inconsistencies.


what in consitancies

you frabricate some kind of intent to decieve out of changing ISP
sorely to confuse you and others


You do.


prove it

I simply look for better deals

and take them


Like lying about your "identity" when you changed screen
names...trying to make it appear as though there were "others" who
supported you, when indeed all it was WAS you...


never did that


Again...there are so many to work with...


all in your head


Nope.


yes all in that **** brains head of yours


All from your keyboard.


nope


Stevie grow up

Back at ya, LiarBoy.

I am adult not sure you are even human

Your body may have reached the age of majority, Markie, but there
is STRONG evidence that you have some very significant development
issues yet to be resolved.


and you display signs that you are dangerously unbalanced


And you claim I make comments "not in your fiield"


Not in my feild I agree

but I can tell a threat when i read it

and anyne who make the threats you do over Ham radio must be unblanced,
not sure exactly how, but you must be




Please, Markie...

Tell us of YOUR credentials to determine mental instability...!


years of reading your posts


First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.


I understand english but you are not using english very well either


If you understood English well, you'd have a better than average
likelyhood of spelling it correctly.


not realy proves you don't know much about dyslexia

still reling on Tom Cruise for expertise on the subject


Obviously I was correct.


nope


Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ July 15th 05 10:15 AM



an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:


then you admit I am right so lets move on

I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...

yes you did


We've found yet ANOTHER MarkieLie.


nope first you hack out the post and then you enter with another lie


Nope.

You keep insisting that I am "agreeing" with you.

You lied.

No. Rude for treating Hans the way you did for ANSWERING your
question.


stevie you are flaimng me for reareaching part 97 which you complained
I wasn't doing


No...I was complaining that you're lying.

Which was evident in your post.

making up wityhput eveident that I am trying to decieve folks


"wityhput eveident"...?!?!

What the heck is that?

you are a paraniod


Nope.

and obseesed


Nope.

#### you


Now see...there you go with your sexual deviance again.


#### you

#### off


WTG! 50% of those 2 sentences was profanities!

the use of language you don't like is not eveidennce of sexual
devaiance


No.

You suggested intercourse. We are the same gender, and that's
deviant.

even if I wanted to #### your butt that would not be a sign a deviance
merely a lack of taste


It would be deviance. And you could do worse...

Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!

Nope I am not I am asaying that you claim everthing is assinine idoitic
and un truthfull Never seen the word Mistruthful before


And I've never seen the word "truthfull" either.


lie


Nope.

Ich habe 'truthfull" im desse Morgan schriben


"Mistruthful" is in Websters.


never seen it before


Maybe because Webster's isn't written in crayon...?!?!

which does not alter its threatening nature esp from a guy saying "one
shot one Kill even in illiopolis"


More out-of-context quotes, Markie!


nope


Yep. Sure is. Just like Brain keeps trying to insinuate that I
allegedly threatened to "slash tires" and "terrorize wives".

Forgot your "Is that your best shot" comment that inspired the
response?


nope


Obviously you did.

What "shot" were YOU suggesting, Markie...?!?!

That you have some minimum quantity of human DNA qualifies you as
a human...


huh


See what I mean...

"Minimum quantity"

I have 100% Hukman DNA


ROTMFFLMMFAO...AGAIN ! ! ! !

WHAT AN IDIOT ! ! ! ! !

You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...

what didn't I define?


About half of your uses of words.


Stevie noone can gues what distorted uses you will aply to words


There's no "distorted uses" I can apply to words that YOU won't
print clearly.


Like "drafted" until a year later....


Lair


I'm not a "lair"

answers as soon as you asked

a amatter of days


An absolute lie, Markie. You were MONTHS with that
song-and-dance!

You needed reapeated a year later and again 6 years later


Nope. YOU needed to be reminded that there is only ONE meaning of
the word "drafted" as applied to military service.

It's not for Mark Morgan to change at will.

I sent you several letters to keep thsi stuff off the board.


you sent abusive and threatening letters off the borad


LiarLiar pants on fire!

you demanded I stop posting or you would out me on RRAP as Gay (dispite
my being Bisexual)


More lies! Sheesh, Morgan, where DO you get this stuff...?!?!

You are a blackmailer, and a foolish one since don't my sxual
orientation just don't advertise it


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiight!

You came to the board and lied, saying I was threatening you, and
costing you all that money for your ISP.


you were blackmailing me


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight.

you were also sending a copy of every post to me both in RRAP and in
private Email

wasting my time and money


What time? What money? You're a useless layabout. What have YOU
got to do?

The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.

another Stevie Lie


Nope.


yes

You don't humilate me.


No, I don't.

You humilate yourself.

anoy harrass stalker threaten me yes


No. No. No. No.

humilate me no

therefore it is a lie to say I like being humilated since it doesn't
happen


Sure it does.

Everytime you post.


you frabricate some kind of intent to decieve out of changing ISP
sorely to confuse you and others


You do.


prove it


Already did.

Refered folks to any of your old screen names.

I simply look for better deals

and take them


I bet you do...

Like lying about your "identity" when you changed screen
names...trying to make it appear as though there were "others" who
supported you, when indeed all it was WAS you...


never did that


Yep.

Refer to posts made under "MWMORGAN"

Again...there are so many to work with...

all in your head


Nope.


yes all in that #### brains head of yours


All from your keyboard.


nope


Yep.

And you claim I make comments "not in your fiield"


Not in my feild I agree

but I can tell a threat when i read it


Obviously not.

and anyne who make the threats you do over Ham radio must be unblanced,
not sure exactly how, but you must be


What threats have I made "...over Ham Radio..."

I don't discuss you on the air. I wouldn't be able to stop
laughing long enough to get my call and QTH across...

Please, Markie...

Tell us of YOUR credentials to determine mental instability...!


years of reading your posts


Then you are acknowledging that you ahve NO credentials.

Just more MarkieDreck.

First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.

I understand english but you are not using english very well either


If you understood English well, you'd have a better than average
likelyhood of spelling it correctly.


not realy proves you don't know much about dyslexia


I know it can be treated.

still reling on Tom Cruise for expertise on the subject


Nope. The American Medical Association

Obviously I was correct.


nope


Yep. Again.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend July 15th 05 04:25 PM



K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

then you admit I am right so lets move on

I didn't say you are right...Not by a long stretch...

yes you did

We've found yet ANOTHER MarkieLie.


nope first you hack out the post and then you enter with another lie


Nope.


You have agreed that I am deffeent and that I have the right to be
defferent
therfore I all right or at least not wroug


You keep insisting that I am "agreeing" with you.


you seem tobut then it like Senator Kerry you flipflop very fast



You lied.


nope

Disagreed

as is my right


No. Rude for treating Hans the way you did for ANSWERING your
question.


stevie you are flaimng me for reareaching part 97 which you complained
I wasn't doing


No...I was complaining that you're lying.


prove it

i was rading the sections of part 97 and noticed this hole in the stuff
from the FCC

and decided to coment on it

you claim everything I do is some of plot to confuse you and now Hans

get over your self

When was you last post on Radio here


Which was evident in your post.


lie


making up wityhput eveident that I am trying to decieve folks


"wityhput eveident"...?!?!

What the heck is that?


what you are engaged in attacks with nothing to back em up


you are a paraniod


Nope.


yep


and obseesed


Nope.

yep


#### you

Now see...there you go with your sexual deviance again.


#### you

#### off


WTG! 50% of those 2 sentences was profanities!


so what?

nothing ilegal about it


the use of language you don't like is not eveidennce of sexual
devaiance


No.

You suggested intercourse. We are the same gender, and that's
deviant.


not according to medical authority

nor did I suggest I would **** you

and I never suggested you get ****ed by a man or a woman, but it is
clear you need something abding is a good thing to try for someone
obsessed with people sex lives


even if I wanted to #### your butt that would not be a sign a deviance
merely a lack of taste


It would be deviance. And you could do worse...


not according to medcial authority


Unless you're AGREEING that ALL of your posts are assinine,
idiotic and mistruthful...?!?!

Nope I am not I am asaying that you claim everthing is assinine idoitic
and un truthfull Never seen the word Mistruthful before

And I've never seen the word "truthfull" either.


lie


Nope.


and you cut stuff out again

I have used the word before therefore you have seen therefore you are
lieing about not having seen it


Ich habe 'truthfull" im desse Morgan schriben


"Mistruthful" is in Websters.


never seen it before


Maybe because Webster's isn't written in crayon...?!?!


doubt that

why are you so obsessed with crayons?


which does not alter its threatening nature esp from a guy saying "one
shot one Kill even in illiopolis"

More out-of-context quotes, Markie!


nope


Yep. Sure is. Just like Brain keeps trying to insinuate that I
allegedly threatened to "slash tires" and "terrorize wives".


you typed it



Forgot your "Is that your best shot" comment that inspired the
response?


nope


Obviously you did.


nope you just think you are above the law, fortunately for you it
doesn't seem to bother with usenet


What "shot" were YOU suggesting, Markie...?!?!


I was not suggesting a gunshot


That you have some minimum quantity of human DNA qualifies you as
a human...


huh


See what I mean...

"Minimum quantity"


more ad homien attacks


I have 100% Hukman DNA


ROTMFFLMMFAO...AGAIN ! ! ! !


so


WHAT AN IDIOT ! ! ! ! !

You see, Mark...Unlike you, I clearly define the parameters of
what I am discussing. Not making them up as I go and hoping they are
understood along the way...

what didn't I define?

About half of your uses of words.


Stevie noone can gues what distorted uses you will aply to words


There's no "distorted uses" I can apply to words that YOU won't
print clearly.


Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not



Like "drafted" until a year later....


Lair


I'm not a "lair"

answers as soon as you asked

a amatter of days


An absolute lie, Markie. You were MONTHS with that
song-and-dance!


nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it

and then these years later you claim I never did at all

which lie is your final answer?


You needed reapeated a year later and again 6 years later


Nope. YOU needed to be reminded that there is only ONE meaning of
the word "drafted" as applied to military service.


the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision


It's not for Mark Morgan to change at will.


I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do


I sent you several letters to keep thsi stuff off the board.


you sent abusive and threatening letters off the borad


LiarLiar pants on fire!


nope


you demanded I stop posting or you would out me on RRAP as Gay (dispite
my being Bisexual)


More lies! Sheesh, Morgan, where DO you get this stuff...?!?!


you sent those email I remember them well


You are a blackmailer, and a foolish one since don't my sxual
orientation just don't advertise it


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiight!


yep


You came to the board and lied, saying I was threatening you, and
costing you all that money for your ISP.


you were blackmailing me


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiight.


yep


you were also sending a copy of every post to me both in RRAP and in
private Email

wasting my time and money


What time? What money? You're a useless layabout. What have YOU
got to do?


Stevie I run my own company. a small one, I take care of a Terminal ill
man, I am active in politics. I even try to get on the air

my income is the range of about 30K a year, and I own my home (not me
and the bank but me) I have a family

that you are bigoted enough to judge a person by his typing is not my
fault


The truth, of course, is that you LIKE to be publically
humiliated, hence your insistance to be slapped around in here.

another Stevie Lie

Nope.


yes

You don't humilate me.


No, I don't.


progress boyo


You humilate yourself.


nope


anoy harrass stalker threaten me yes


No. No. No. No.


yes yes yes

you dare to claim you don't anoy me?

Jesus Mary and Joeseph


humilate me no

therefore it is a lie to say I like being humilated since it doesn't
happen


Sure it does.


nope it does not


Everytime you post.


nope only in your mind ( and prehaps a few others)



you frabricate some kind of intent to decieve out of changing ISP
sorely to confuse you and others

You do.


prove it


Already did.


no you have not

you simply claimed it


Refered folks to any of your old screen names.


which porvenothing but i changed ISP's
as I said


I simply look for better deals

and take them


I bet you do...


something wroung with that too getting a better deal


Like lying about your "identity" when you changed screen
names...trying to make it appear as though there were "others" who
supported you, when indeed all it was WAS you...


never did that


Yep.


nope


Refer to posts made under "MWMORGAN"


so


Again...there are so many to work with...

all in your head

Nope.


yes all in that #### brains head of yours


that **** for brains of yours


All from your keyboard.


nope


Yep.


nope


And you claim I make comments "not in your fiield"


Not in my feild I agree

but I can tell a threat when i read it


Obviously not.


yes I can

talking about killing people is always a threat and never justified on
usenet


and anyne who make the threats you do over Ham radio must be unblanced,
not sure exactly how, but you must be


What threats have I made "...over Ham Radio..."


to kill me
of course you are distring the context again I gues I shoudl have said
over the subject of Ham radio but that would hardly help since youd
just find some other way to twist my words


I don't discuss you on the air. I wouldn't be able to stop
laughing long enough to get my call and QTH across...


never said you did another of your distortions


Please, Markie...

Tell us of YOUR credentials to determine mental instability...!


years of reading your posts


Then you are acknowledging that you ahve NO credentials.


i don't ahve anything nor does anyone else

yes a cheap shot at your spelling, but I pass on most of them


Just more MarkieDreck.

First and foremeost being your writing and English comprehension
skills.

I understand english but you are not using english very well either

If you understood English well, you'd have a better than average
likelyhood of spelling it correctly.


not realy proves you don't know much about dyslexia


I know it can be treated.


Yes according to Tom Cruise where did he get his MD?

and as I have said it has been just ot to your satisfaction,which you
seem to think is more important than my own


still reling on Tom Cruise for expertise on the subject


Nope. The American Medical Association

Obviously I was correct.


nope


Yep. Again.


nope


Steve, K4YZ



KØHB July 15th 05 05:28 PM


"an_old_friend" wrote

Hans I copied from FCC.gov


So did I.

That Is not accessable from the FCC's website


Yes, it is.

73, de Hans, K0HB





Dave Heil July 17th 05 02:35 PM

an_old_friend wrote:

Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not


He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)


nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it


Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?


the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision


It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.

I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do


When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.


Dave K8MN

an_old_friend July 17th 05 06:02 PM



Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not


He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)


nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it


Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?


the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision


It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.

I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do


When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.


only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them


Dave K8MN



Dave Heil July 17th 05 11:01 PM

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:


Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not


He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)



nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it


Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?



the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision


It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.


I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do


When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.



only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them


Gee, Mark, don't you get it? You are one of the narrow minded people
who wants to be spoon fed. You want amateur radio to be easier in order
to accomodate you. You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in
Mark-sized chunks. You want all others to have to try to decipher your
hieroglyphs rather than you doing the work to post messages in
properly-spelled and grammatically correct English. You'd like folks to
guess as to how you'll define terms which have a specific meaning to all
the rest of us.

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend July 18th 05 01:14 AM



Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:


Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not

He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)



nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it

Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?



the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision

It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.


I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do

When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.



only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them


Gee, Mark, don't you get it? You are one of the narrow minded people
who wants to be spoon fed. You want amateur radio to be easier in order


No not at all, I want the ARs to respect the liberites of all Americans
myself included

you want to deprive american of their rights if they don't jump though
the same hoops you did

I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves


to accomodate you. You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in


No I want people to answer questions aksed instaed of droning on about
irelavant garbage

Hans has spent a couple of weeks ont eh suject of what is a band that
is waste

Mark-sized chunks. You want all others to have to try to decipher your


can't you read it is a matter of indifference to me read or don't read
at your pleasure

hieroglyphs rather than you doing the work to post messages in



properly-spelled and grammatically correct English. You'd like folks to
guess as to how you'll define terms which have a specific meaning to all
the rest of us.


Really then form Stevie the NBA and NFL are lying ervy years when they
say they are holding a draft

no one has yet to come up with a term other than band to describe 60 m
doesn't stop setvie and hans from going on and on about how wrong it is



Dave K8MN



Dave Heil July 18th 05 01:52 AM

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:



Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not

He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)




nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it

Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?




the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision

It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.



I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do

When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.


only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them


Gee, Mark, don't you get it? You are one of the narrow minded people
who wants to be spoon fed. You want amateur radio to be easier in order



No not at all, I want the ARs to respect the liberites of all Americans
myself included


Manure! Nothing in amateur radio takes away any of the "liberites"
granted by the Constitution.

you want to deprive american of their rights if they don't jump though
the same hoops you did


You have no Constitutional right to an amateur radio license.

I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves


I opossum your view.


to accomodate you. You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in



No I want people to answer questions aksed instaed of droning on about
irelavant garbage


Everything you needed for an answer was right before you--spelled out.
That, of course, might have been the problem. Next time, ask Hans for
the aural version.

Hans has spent a couple of weeks ont eh suject of what is a band that
is waste


To try explaining it to you was certainly a waste.


Mark-sized chunks. You want all others to have to try to decipher your



can't you read it is a matter of indifference to me read or don't read
at your pleasure


hieroglyphs rather than you doing the work to post messages in




properly-spelled and grammatically correct English. You'd like folks to
guess as to how you'll define terms which have a specific meaning to all
the rest of us.



Really then form Stevie the NBA and NFL are lying ervy years when they
say they are holding a draft


Do you know the difference between a military draft and an NFL or NBA
draft? Were you being drafted by either the NFL or NBA? The definition
of both types of draft is the same, by the way.

no one has yet to come up with a term other than band to describe 60 m
doesn't stop setvie and hans from going on and on about how wrong it is


Hans gave you a term to use. There is no 60m band by definition.

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend July 18th 05 02:04 AM



Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:



Stevie you didtort my words wether I type them clearly or not

He torted your words? You might have a legal case. ;-)




nope you just did not bother to read it so I had to repate it

Does that procedure involve a hair transplant?




the choie of the word was alas unforunate, but I am not bound by your
narrowminded vision

It surely was "unforunate" since it wasn't the truth. Of course, you
aren't bound by any narrow minded stuff like truth.



I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do

When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.


only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them

Gee, Mark, don't you get it? You are one of the narrow minded people
who wants to be spoon fed. You want amateur radio to be easier in order



No not at all, I want the ARs to respect the liberites of all Americans
myself included


Manure! Nothing in amateur radio takes away any of the "liberites"
granted by the Constitution.


the code test does indeed do so

you want to deprive american of their rights if they don't jump though
the same hoops you did


You have no Constitutional right to an amateur radio license.


I have a right to anything not denied to me by the constition of the
USa unless regulated by treaty since the constitution of the US and the
treaties we sign are the supreme law of the land

Nothing in the Consittution allows the FCC to cintinue codetesting ,
and nothing in the treaty gives it that power there the power does not
exist in law


I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves


I opossum your view.


and the Constitution of the US



to accomodate you. You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in



No I want people to answer questions aksed instaed of droning on about
irelavant garbage


Everything you needed for an answer was right before you--spelled out.
That, of course, might have been the problem. Next time, ask Hans for
the aural version.


not it wasn't


Hans has spent a couple of weeks ont eh suject of what is a band that
is waste


To try explaining it to you was certainly a waste.


do understand what I am saying when I type 60m Band or not?




Mark-sized chunks. You want all others to have to try to decipher your



can't you read it is a matter of indifference to me read or don't read
at your pleasure


hieroglyphs rather than you doing the work to post messages in




properly-spelled and grammatically correct English. You'd like folks to
guess as to how you'll define terms which have a specific meaning to all
the rest of us.



Really then form Stevie the NBA and NFL are lying ervy years when they
say they are holding a draft


Do you know the difference between a military draft and an NFL or NBA
draft? Were you being drafted by either the NFL or NBA? The definition
of both types of draft is the same, by the way.


nope it isn't at least ot according to Stevie


no one has yet to come up with a term other than band to describe 60 m
doesn't stop setvie and hans from going on and on about how wrong it is


Hans gave you a term to use. There is no 60m band by definition.


and yet you, steve and Hans know better than the ARRL and W5YI



Dave K8MN



Cmd Buzz Corey July 18th 05 02:55 AM

an_old_friend wrote:



Nothing in the Consittution allows the FCC to cintinue codetesting ,
and nothing in the treaty gives it that power there the power does not
exist in law


BZZZZZTTTT!!! Wrong!!! The Constitution has nothing to do with code
testing, and the treaty now says that code testing isn't required. The
FCC certainly can continue to require it if they deem it necessary, only
they are no longer required by treaty to do so.

Cmd Buzz Corey July 18th 05 03:01 AM

an_old_friend wrote:


I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves



Translation: "I don't want to learn anything technical, or anything
about regulations, or take a test to determine if I am half-way capable
of operating a transmitter responsibably on the ham bands".

Looks like the Childrens Band is a perfect fit for you.

Cmd Buzz Corey July 18th 05 03:40 AM

an_old_friend wrote:

What power gives the FCC that power NOTHING


The same power that gives the FCC to power to require a test of
technical knowledge and regulations in order for one to operate a
transmitter on the ham bands. IDJIT.

Cmd Buzz Corey July 18th 05 03:41 AM

an_old_friend wrote:

Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:


I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves



Translation: "I don't want to learn anything technical, or anything
about regulations, or take a test to determine if I am half-way capable
of operating a transmitter responsibably on the ham bands".



guess you failed english


Looks like the Childrens Band is a perfect fit for you.




You failed English and spelling. Like I say, you would fit perfectly on
the Chicken Band, they are all on just about your level.

Dave Heil July 18th 05 04:32 AM

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:


I can any definifation I care to I don't have to choose the same one as
you do

When your "definifations" mean something other than what is commonly
accepted, you make it impossible to communicate with others. Of course
you've pretty much done that with your misspellings and grammatical
abortions.


only to narrow minded people that everything spoon fed to them

Gee, Mark, don't you get it? You are one of the narrow minded people
who wants to be spoon fed. You want amateur radio to be easier in order


No not at all, I want the ARs to respect the liberites of all Americans
myself included


Manure! Nothing in amateur radio takes away any of the "liberites"
granted by the Constitution.



the code test does indeed do so


As with any number of things of late, you're simply wrong.

you want to deprive american of their rights if they don't jump though
the same hoops you did


You have no Constitutional right to an amateur radio license.



I have a right to anything not denied to me by the constition of the
USa unless regulated by treaty since the constitution of the US and the
treaties we sign are the supreme law of the land


Oh, you have a right to attempt to pass an amateur radio exam but you
aren't guaranteed success. The "constition" doesn't address or regulate
motor car licensing but you still have to pass a test in order to obtain
a driving license. It can be revoked by your state or denied if you
have a medical or mental condition rendering you a hazard to others.
Deal with the fact that you don't a right to something simply because
you want to do it.


Nothing in the Consittution allows the FCC to cintinue codetesting ,
and nothing in the treaty gives it that power there the power does not
exist in law


Nothing in the U.S. Constitution prevents the FCC from administering a
morse code test for amateur radio licensing. You have no right to an
amateur radio license.

I opose hazing ritual frat boy rituals for access to the public
airwaves


I opossum your view.



and the Constitution of the US


Okay, I opossum the Constitution.



to accomodate you. You want explanations about 5 MHz modes to be in


No I want people to answer questions aksed instaed of droning on about
irelavant garbage


Everything you needed for an answer was right before you--spelled out.
That, of course, might have been the problem. Next time, ask Hans for
the aural version.



not it wasn't


Yes, Mark, it was. Your repeated denials of reality are just making you
look stupid.

Hans has spent a couple of weeks ont eh suject of what is a band that
is waste


To try explaining it to you was certainly a waste.



do understand what I am saying when I type 60m Band or not?


Yes, you mean the spot frequencies which are not a band at all.


Mark-sized chunks. You want all others to have to try to decipher your


can't you read it is a matter of indifference to me read or don't read
at your pleasure



hieroglyphs rather than you doing the work to post messages in



properly-spelled and grammatically correct English. You'd like folks to
guess as to how you'll define terms which have a specific meaning to all
the rest of us.


Really then form Stevie the NBA and NFL are lying ervy years when they
say they are holding a draft


Do you know the difference between a military draft and an NFL or NBA
draft? Were you being drafted by either the NFL or NBA? The definition
of both types of draft is the same, by the way.



nope it isn't at least ot according to Stevie


I don't know Steve's views on the NBA or NFL draft. I do know what
you've written previously about being drafted. Now we're to understand
that you didn't actually mean "drafted".


no one has yet to come up with a term other than band to describe 60 m
doesn't stop setvie and hans from going on and on about how wrong it is


Hans gave you a term to use. There is no 60m band by definition.



and yet you, steve and Hans know better than the ARRL and W5YI


Yeah, it surely looks that way. It certainly won't be the first time.

Dave K8MN

an_old_friend July 18th 05 04:39 AM



Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:



Nothing in the Consittution allows the FCC to cintinue codetesting ,
and nothing in the treaty gives it that power there the power does not
exist in law


BZZZZZTTTT!!! Wrong!!! The Constitution has nothing to do with code


Agreed which the FCC has not authority


testing, and the treaty now says that code testing isn't required. The
FCC certainly can continue to require it if they deem it necessary, only


What power gives the FCC that power NOTHING

they are no longer required by treaty to do so.




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