Dee Flint wrote:

Perhaps the FCC is wanting to see how this will go for a while and depending
on the results, reduce the number of classes to two.

I am willing to bet that there will be some arguments made to the
effect that once the code is dropped it WILL become a defacto 2-class
license, and they will just go ahead in this NPRM and do it.

Then how far till 1? Then none?

73

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:

Perhaps the FCC is wanting to see how this will go for a while and depending
on the results, reduce the number of classes to two.

I am willing to bet that there will be some arguments made to the
effect that once the code is dropped it WILL become a defacto 2-class
license, and they will just go ahead in this NPRM and do it.

Then how far till 1? Then none?

typical always accusing folks of trying to eleiminate licenss all
together

but their certainly are virtues to 1 Class of license esp in POV of the
FCC, but also for hams maybe that would finaly end the classism of
Hamradio

73

Steve, K4YZ

an old friend wrote:

but their certainly are virtues to 1 Class of license esp in POV of the
FCC, but also for hams maybe that would finaly end the classism of
Hamradio

What will end is the decades old tradition of self-training.

No Incentive = No Advancement. An eons-old proven fact.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
an old friend wrote:

but their certainly are virtues to 1 Class of license esp in POV of the
FCC, but also for hams maybe that would finaly end the classism of
Hamradio

What will end is the decades old tradition of self-training.

No Incentive = No Advancement. An eons-old proven fact.

i guess we have your excuse


Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:

Perhaps the FCC is wanting to see how this will go for a while and depending
on the results, reduce the number of classes to two.

I am willing to bet that there will be some arguments made to the
effect that once the code is dropped it WILL become a defacto 2-class
license, and they will just go ahead in this NPRM and do it.

Well, let's look at the history....

Before 1951, there were effectively two license classes, A and B. (The
third license class, C, was just a B taken by mail). Both allowed
access to all
amateur frequencies and all authorized modes, at full power, with one
exception.
The exception was that only Class A hams could operate 'phone on the
ham bands between 2 and 25 MHz.

From February 1953 until November 1968, there were effectively three
license classes, Novice (1 year 1-time-only newcomer license),
Technician (VHF-and-up experimenter license) and
General/Conditional/Advanced/Extra (all privileges licenses). Some
people refer to that time as a "golden age".....

In 1998 FCC proposed reduction to 4 license classes (open to new
issues, that is) - Technician, General, Advanced, Extra. In 2000 they
went one step further and closed off the Advanced, too.

So there's definitely a precedent. OTOH, FCC has steadfastly refused
free upgrades.

Then how far till 1? Then none?

Admin work - that's the rub.

73 de Jim, N2EY

wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:

Perhaps the FCC is wanting to see how this will go for a while and depending
on the results, reduce the number of classes to two.

I am willing to bet that there will be some arguments made to the
effect that once the code is dropped it WILL become a defacto 2-class
license, and they will just go ahead in this NPRM and do it.

Well, let's look at the history....

Before 1951, there were effectively two license classes, A and B. (The
third license class, C, was just a B taken by mail). Both allowed
access to all
amateur frequencies and all authorized modes, at full power, with one
exception.
The exception was that only Class A hams could operate 'phone on the
ham bands between 2 and 25 MHz.

your point? I have read this I don't know how many times from you


From February 1953 until November 1968, there were effectively three
license classes, Novice (1 year 1-time-only newcomer license),
Technician (VHF-and-up experimenter license) and
General/Conditional/Advanced/Extra (all privileges licenses). Some
people refer to that time as a "golden age".....

and many don't but you point?


In 1998 FCC proposed reduction to 4 license classes (open to new
issues, that is) - Technician, General, Advanced, Extra. In 2000 they
went one step further and closed off the Advanced, too.

So there's definitely a precedent. OTOH, FCC has steadfastly refused
free upgrades.

so that is your point

Who cares

I oppose them after all it makes those that receive targets in the ARS
of the jealous masses


Then how far till 1? Then none?

Admin work - that's the rub.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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Dee Flint wrote:

Perhaps the FCC is wanting to see how this will go for a while and
depending
on the results, reduce the number of classes to two.

I am willing to bet that there will be some arguments made to the
effect that once the code is dropped it WILL become a defacto 2-class
license, and they will just go ahead in this NPRM and do it.

Then how far till 1? Then none?

73

Steve, K4YZ


In the discussion section of the NPRM, the FCC specifically said they would
not address any changes at this time. I think they'll stick to it while
they consider other petitions.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE