Len:

My gawd, get out the antacid, laxatives, etc and pass them out freely!!!!

This belly-aching is going to go on forever, fact is CW looks almost certain to
fall. And, the CB'ers are on the march to get their "KeenWoods" and "davemade"
products now, in anticipation...

.... amateur radio is about to take on a new personality.

Truckers with extra licenses, house wife's as generals, kiddie techs, the
possibilities are endless...

John

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From: Michael Coslo on Aug 2, 6:57 am

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Dee Flint wrote:
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Dee Flint wrote:
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Dee Flint wrote:


In the discussion in the NPRM, they make it clear
that they expect any Tech
not having HF privileges (i.e. codeless Techs)
to take the General exam and
upgrade to get HF privileges.

Interesting - in many ways!

For one thing, there would still be two kinds of
Technicians - those with HF and those without.

Yes there will be. The NPRM bore down heavily on the point
that licensees
are expected to continue to develop and learn and thus if they want
more privileges, they show that development by upgrading.

The problem is that such an implementation of the concept
contradicts the FCC's own arguments and reasons!

But it does completely satisfy those who kept hammering on no
automatic upgrades and then some as I got the impression that most would
not have minded Techs being consolidated with Tech Plus at the Tech Plus
privileges even though otherwise against automatic upgrades.

Perhaps.

Or perhaps FCC thinks that anybody who really wants HF should just go
for General or Extra.

But what would be the rationale of giving the priveliges of a class that
tehy chose to remove (not test for, and eventually merge with
Technician) earlier?

Oh, my, all that SPECULATION and the "bearing down heavily!"

WT Docket 05-235 is about ONE thing and ONE thing only: Delete
or retain the morse code test. The FCC expects deletion but
will not order that until all Comments are done and has reached
a conclusion on the basis of those Comments.

NOTHING in that docket was about "restructuring" anything but
test element 1 statements.

Whatever else anyone in this group has said/pronounced/babbled
about is PURE SUBJECTIVE SPECTULATION.

Tsk, where are all the "insiders" who used to say "exactly
what the FCC was thinking?!?" [ as if... ]



And when you consider that the old, pre-restructuring 20 wpm *Extra*
was earned by at least one third-grader at the age of 8,
it's a bit hard to accept that the written tests are "too hard".

(OTOH, the same can be said about the code tests...)

Tsk, the FCC doesn't recognize AGE. :-)

WT Docket 05-235 is NOT about license classes, "restructuring"
acts befores or afters, or WRITTEN TESTS. It is concerned
with Test Element 1 deletion or retention.

Tsk, tsk, you people just have NO focus...


It gets more and more interesting. Sounds like a rebirth of
Incentive Licensing.

Sounds more like you PCTAs have way too much time on your
hands when you cannot understand what 05-235 is about...

THey better call it something else! ;^)

WT Docket 05-235 is good enough for the FCC. Why isn't it
good enough for you PCTAs?

Think about it: FCC saying that it's *not OK* to stay a Tech!?!

Only one little problem: The FCC did NOT say that in
WT Docket 05-235.


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Just as well. You PCTAs just can't focus on THE important
part of U.S. amateur radio regulations for entering amateur
radio...the morse code test.

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