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the US My date R&O published round new years making the date efect like the same as the last one apr 1 as I recall so apr 1 2006 |
"an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... looks like a good to firm up people estimates on the end of testing in the US My date R&O published round new years making the date efect like the same as the last one apr 1 as I recall so apr 1 2006 / Which country do you hail from, anyway? |
Ralph wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message ups.com... looks like a good to firm up people estimates on the end of testing in the US My date R&O published round new years making the date efect like the same as the last one apr 1 as I recall so apr 1 2006 / Which country do you hail from, anyway? I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there |
an_old_friend wrote:
I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said Dave K8MN |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". If the word "countries" is correct, then we still have some problems with the meaning: "I live in the US was born Prague which was few [countries?] ago over there." Were you born *in* Prague? Did you really mean that Prague was a few countries ago? Prague still exists. Did you mean that Prague is in a different country than it used to be in? That would be correct, but it was only one country ago. It was in Czechoslovakia; now it is in the Czech Republic. How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said ranting delected Were you born *in* Prague? Did you really mean that Prague was a few countries ago? Prague still exists. Did you mean that Prague is in a different country than it used to be in? That would be correct, but it was only one country ago. It was in Czechoslovakia; now it is in the Czech Republic. How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? none if you like none was making you read anything as to that being one country ago I disagree but I can always count on you to beat dead horses Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? How about a spell checker? Or maybe just some proofreading? I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". It's still not clear that the word is "countries". If the word "countries" is correct, then we still have some problems with the meaning: "I live in the US was born Prague which was few [countries?] ago over there." Were you born *in* Prague? Did you really mean that Prague was a few countries ago? Prague still exists. Did you mean that Prague is in a different country than it used to be in? That would be correct, but it was only one country ago. It was in Czechoslovakia; now it is in the Czech Republic. How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? Mark's philosophy is that if you can't understand what he wrote, no matter how bolluxed up, it's *your* fault and *your* problem, not his. That's obviously illogical. There's a limit to even the best error-correcting codes. But they all depend on the message being correct when transmitted... 73 de Jim, N2EY "I was born in Dusseldorf And that is why they call me Rolf" - The Producers, 1968 |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: Dave Heil wrote: How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? none if you like none was making you read anything Hell, you can't even get the above simple sentence correct. Dumber than a bowl of dirt. |
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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Dave Heil wrote: How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? none if you like none was making you read anything Hell, you can't even get the above simple sentence correct. Dumber than a bowl of dirt. BUZZ wrong try 3 sentences |
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: Dave Heil wrote: How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? none if you like none was making you read anything Hell, you can't even get the above simple sentence correct. Dumber than a bowl of dirt. BUZZ wrong try 3 sentences |
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? How about a spell checker? Or maybe just some proofreading? already answered a dozen or so times I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". It's still not clear that the word is "countries". not my problem Wrong, your stupidity is your problem. As said before, you can't even put together a clear sentence that can be understood, and then you blame everyone else because they can't understand you gibbrish. Again, dumber than a bowl of dirt. |
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? How about a spell checker? Or maybe just some proofreading? already answered a dozen or so times I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". It's still not clear that the word is "countries". not my problem Wrong, your stupidity is your problem. As said before, you can't even put together a clear sentence that can be understood, and then you blame everyone else because they can't understand you gibbrish. Again, dumber than a bowl of dirt. then don't read it buzz nobody is making you |
an_old_ whateverheis wrote:
Wrong, your stupidity is your problem. As said before, you can't even put together a clear sentence that can be understood, and then you blame everyone else because they can't understand you gibbrish. Again, dumber than a bowl of dirt. then don't read it buzz nobody is making you That's the problem you idjit, half of what you post isn't readable. |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said ranting delected Delected, huh? Were you born *in* Prague? Did you really mean that Prague was a few countries ago? Prague still exists. Did you mean that Prague is in a different country than it used to be in? That would be correct, but it was only one country ago. It was in Czechoslovakia; now it is in the Czech Republic. How much chaff are we to go through to arrive at what you meant to convey? none if you like none was making you read anything None if I like none? What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mispell; you don't capitalize; you leave out all punctuation. as to that being one country ago I disagree but I can always count on you to beat dead horses I note that none of my questions was answered and that the matter hasn't been cleared up at all by you. You're a regular box of Alpha-Bits, Mark. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: masive cut none if you like none was making you read anything None if I like none? What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mispell; you don't capitalize; you leave out all punctuation. yea so it means as I have said over and over don't read my stuff if you like as to that being one country ago I disagree but I can always count on you to beat dead horses I note that none of my questions was answered and that the matter hasn't been cleared up at all by you. nah your problem is you didn't like the answers you and stevie have that in comon, you don't get the answer you wnat you get insulting and abusive it gets boring You're a regular box of Alpha-Bits, Mark. Dave K8MN |
an_old_friend wrote:
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? How about a spell checker? Or maybe just some proofreading? already answered a dozen or so times I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". It's still not clear that the word is "countries". not my problem Wrong, your stupidity is your problem. As said before, you can't even put together a clear sentence that can be understood, and then you blame everyone else because they can't understand you gibbrish. Again, dumber than a bowl of dirt. then don't read it buzz nobody is making you You miss the point, Mark. Nobody can read some of the stuff you post. If you dispense with spelling, capitalization and punctuation, why post at all? Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? Dave K8MN |
"Dave Heil" wrote Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The ILA ("Illiterate Legion of America") is insulted that you'd call Mark an illiterate. |
K=D8HB wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The ILA ("Illiterate Legion of America") is insulted that you'd call Mark= an illiterate. Must be in the water... I just got a phone call from the "Idiot's Defense League" and they say they'll sue if I keep associating Markie with idiots...I asked them what they suggested, and they said that whatever adjective I would choose to use, "idiot" was just too good for him. Just goes to show ya... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
K4YZ:
The original greek meaning of "idiot" was a person not interested in politics... that is my intent when I use that word--hate those damn "non-political freaks!" grin John "K4YZ" wrote in message ups.com... KØHB wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The ILA ("Illiterate Legion of America") is insulted that you'd call Mark an illiterate. Must be in the water... I just got a phone call from the "Idiot's Defense League" and they say they'll sue if I keep associating Markie with idiots...I asked them what they suggested, and they said that whatever adjective I would choose to use, "idiot" was just too good for him. Just goes to show ya... 73 Steve, K4YZ |
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: masive cut none if you like none was making you read anything None if I like none? What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mispell; you don't capitalize; you leave out all punctuation. yea so Not "yea" but "yeah". The "so" is that you often post material that is beyond comprehension. it means as I have said over and over don't read my stuff if you like *Nobody* can read much of the material you post. It is gibberish. as to that being one country ago I disagree but I can always count on you to beat dead horses I note that none of my questions was answered and that the matter hasn't been cleared up at all by you. nah your problem is you didn't like the answers you and stevie have that in comon, you don't get the answer you wnat you get insulting and abusive it gets boring Mark, let us be clear. There were *no* answers. You didn't answer questions about the words or what meaning they were supposed to have. If you write gibberish and then refuse to explain it, you can't claim abuse (though I get the idea that a fellow such as yourself, a guy with masochistic leanings, might enjoy that). |
K4YZ wrote:
KØHB wrote: "Dave Heil" wrote Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The ILA ("Illiterate Legion of America") is insulted that you'd call Mark an illiterate. Must be in the water... I just got a phone call from the "Idiot's Defense League" and they say they'll sue if I keep associating Markie with idiots...I asked them what they suggested, and they said that whatever adjective I would choose to use, "idiot" was just too good for him. Just goes to show ya... It must have slipped your mind that Mark is not an idiot. He is an idoit. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: masive cut none if you like none was making you read anything None if I like none? What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mispell; you don't capitalize; you leave out all punctuation. yea so Not "yea" but "yeah". The "so" is that you often post material that is beyond comprehension. beyond yours find i would not be making that admission if I were you but suit yourself it means as I have said over and over don't read my stuff if you like *Nobody* can read much of the material you post. It is gibberish. gee stevie can when he wants and others as well as to that being one country ago I disagree but I can always count on you to beat dead horses I note that none of my questions was answered and that the matter hasn't been cleared up at all by you. nah your problem is you didn't like the answers you and stevie have that in comon, you don't get the answer you wnat you get insulting and abusive it gets boring Mark, let us be clear. There were *no* answers. You didn't answer questions about the words or what meaning they were supposed to have. You clear about what that you are as controling as stevie I answered your questions you just don'tlike the answers that is your problem not mine If you write gibberish and then refuse to explain it, you can't claim abuse (though I get the idea that a fellow such as yourself, a guy with masochistic leanings, might enjoy that). wrong I certianly can and do as you note so I guess we can chalk that one up in the Lie catagory |
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote: Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I live in the US was born Prague which was few conutieis ago over there Few what? few countiries ago as I said That's incorrect. What you said was "conutieis". Now, you've written "countiries". Want to go for "countries"? How about a spell checker? Or maybe just some proofreading? already answered a dozen or so times I could have reasonably deduced "countries" from your "countiries", but I would never have gotten it from "conutieis". It's still not clear that the word is "countries". not my problem Wrong, your stupidity is your problem. As said before, you can't even put together a clear sentence that can be understood, and then you blame everyone else because they can't understand you gibbrish. Again, dumber than a bowl of dirt. then don't read it buzz nobody is making you You miss the point, Mark. Nobody can read some of the stuff you post. Any literate person can read it. Making sense out of it is another matter. If you dispense with spelling, capitalization and punctuation, why post at all? Here's a theory, Dave: It's done to antagonize the reader. As a way for the writer to insult the reader, by saying the reader is unworthy of the effort required to write understandably. Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The point is that you and others bother to read the gibberish and comment on it at length. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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ups.com... Dave Heil wrote: If you dispense with spelling, capitalization and punctuation, why post at all? Here's a theory, Dave: It's done to antagonize the reader. As a way for the writer to insult the reader, by saying the reader is unworthy of the effort required to write understandably. Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The point is that you and others bother to read the gibberish and comment on it at length. 73 de Jim, N2EY Uh, yep. Dave writes the questions "who wants to read..." and yet, it's apparent he's done so--at length--and responded to it as well. Although, I've never seen Dave participate in any kind of post other than to be contentious or attempt to flare some kind of superior attitude. Maybe I've not taken notice, but I don't remember ever seeing a post from Dave that is remotely technical in nature, or that isn't a cheap route to taking pot shots at those he has issues with. That's OK, though, maybe the newsgroup is sport for him... I like the contention myself. I'd much rather debate with some spunk, but arguing and slinging mud suits me well when I'm in the mood... ;) Kim W5TIT |
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John Smith wrote: we have a "gentleman's agreement" here to use capitals and proper punctuation i think it is so those who cannot extrapolate off their grade school english educations can participate john have you ever found any of the gentlemen who go around making all these agreements? I suppose they must be awfully busy "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... |
Have you ever seen a "gentleman ham" recently?
Something happened to all the old guys who welcomed new members into their ranks? Held instruction/tutorials at their homes and public forums. Instructed rather than wished to control others... It is a real shame, but the caliber of amateurs is equal or below the chicken banders in this brave new world... John "an old friend" wrote in message ups.com... John Smith wrote: we have a "gentleman's agreement" here to use capitals and proper punctuation i think it is so those who cannot extrapolate off their grade school english educations can participate john have you ever found any of the gentlemen who go around making all these agreements? I suppose they must be awfully busy "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... |
John Smith wrote: Have you ever seen a "gentleman ham" recently? Yes I have his name was Scot KB9NXL His license class howver was tech plus, he was also the first Ham I tlaked to on the air, and recoved well when he learned I was using one of the other band on the multiband repeater (based on the fact that the 440 HT was on sale compred to the 2M one I got the 440) Something happened to all the old guys who welcomed new members into their ranks? something did happen to them I have never seen one in person, and not talked to one on the air that I know of Held instruction/tutorials at their homes and public forums. yea Instructed rather than wished to control others... Indeed mine KB9NXL loved morse code was his favorite modebut he was able to respect that I truely loath the mode, and we became and remain friends It is a real shame, but the caliber of amateurs is equal or below the chicken banders in this brave new world... from what I hear below but then what hear on CB that is bad is merely vulgar, what I hear that is bad on Ham radio is bigotry in better language I prefer the vulgar to the bigoted John "an old friend" wrote in message ups.com... John Smith wrote: we have a "gentleman's agreement" here to use capitals and proper punctuation i think it is so those who cannot extrapolate off their grade school english educations can participate john have you ever found any of the gentlemen who go around making all these agreements? I suppose they must be awfully busy "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... |
I am afraid all you are seeing is that CB accurately reflects the condition of
"the world." The "F word" is considered proper etiquette onboard campus... Indeed, even professors have been know to utter it... Society is not controlled though regulation of radio... John "an old friend" wrote in message oups.com... John Smith wrote: Have you ever seen a "gentleman ham" recently? Yes I have his name was Scot KB9NXL His license class howver was tech plus, he was also the first Ham I tlaked to on the air, and recoved well when he learned I was using one of the other band on the multiband repeater (based on the fact that the 440 HT was on sale compred to the 2M one I got the 440) Something happened to all the old guys who welcomed new members into their ranks? something did happen to them I have never seen one in person, and not talked to one on the air that I know of Held instruction/tutorials at their homes and public forums. yea Instructed rather than wished to control others... Indeed mine KB9NXL loved morse code was his favorite modebut he was able to respect that I truely loath the mode, and we became and remain friends It is a real shame, but the caliber of amateurs is equal or below the chicken banders in this brave new world... from what I hear below but then what hear on CB that is bad is merely vulgar, what I hear that is bad on Ham radio is bigotry in better language I prefer the vulgar to the bigoted John "an old friend" wrote in message ups.com... John Smith wrote: we have a "gentleman's agreement" here to use capitals and proper punctuation i think it is so those who cannot extrapolate off their grade school english educations can participate john have you ever found any of the gentlemen who go around making all these agreements? I suppose they must be awfully busy "an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... |
an_old_friend wrote:
wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: an_old_friend wrote: cut You miss the point, Mark. Nobody can read some of the stuff you post. Any literate person can read it. Making sense out of it is another matter. Jim I have been coutesous to on this but you are straining my ability to do so "Coutesous to on this"?? Did you mean "courteous to you on this"? If so, why didn't you write it that way the first time? Courtesy means you would at least *try* using a spellchecker, and some capitalization, and some punctuation. But you steadfastly refuse to do any of that. How can you use CW a medium completely without error correction and be unable to work the meaning of simple text with the leasure of time and the abilty to look at the context You obviously don't understand "error correction". The purpose of error correction is to identify and correct errors that occur in the transmission medium - assuming the message is sent correctly in the first place! What you expect is for readers of your stuff to translate it into readable English. And if they have difficulty, you say it's *their* problem. That's not how CW/Morse Code works at all. People can follow my typing the first draft with no polishing turned into CW on air and yet you claim you can't follow it in text I don't think you've ever used CW on the air. How is that possible? Do you have an exaplintion why The level of difficulties for people in reading my stuff here in this newsgroup declines as support for code testing increases, indeedanywhere I post it seem that the abilty to read and understands declines with the degree of their agreement I frankly suspect that what the problem is, is simply that people like Dave and it seems you don't want to understand and therefore seize on any excuse not to do so I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. If you dispense with spelling, capitalization and punctuation, why post at all? Here's a theory, Dave: It's done to antagonize the reader. As a way for the writer to insult the reader, by saying the reader is unworthy of the effort required to write understandably. close Jim it is a reflection of the author opinion of the value of the medium, usenet is unworthy of the effort, but I have said that before "Usenet is unworthy of the effort"? That's a cop-out. What you're really saying is that the *people who read Usenet* aren't worthy of *your* effort. That's what it boils down to. Who wants to read the ramblings of an illiterate? The point is that you and others bother to read the gibberish and comment on it at length. and that is an intersting point So here's my final point: The hardware and software of Usenet don't care if you post clear prose or complete gibberish. Only the readers care. So you are saying the readers aren't worth it. That works both ways. Your posts aren't worth the effort it takes to read and decipher them, let alone answer them. So I won't. |
I just got a phone call from the "Idiot's Defense League" and they say they'll sue if I keep associating Markie with idiots...I asked them what they suggested, and they said that whatever adjective I would choose to use, "idiot" was just too good for him. There's "moron" but I don't know if that's a step up or a step down.... ;-) |
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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote: Courtesy means you would at least *try* using a spellchecker, and some capitalization, and some punctuation. But you steadfastly refuse to do any of that. He doesn't know how...too stupid. I don't think so, "Cmdr". By his own admission, Mark *refuses* to do the above things. IOW, it's not about "can't" - it's about "won't." 73 de Jim, N2EY |
N2EY:
I was going to mention, the "commander" assisting you would do MUCH more harm than good... A "Thanks! But, NO thanks!" is probably the logical move... John wrote in message oups.com... Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: wrote: Courtesy means you would at least *try* using a spellchecker, and some capitalization, and some punctuation. But you steadfastly refuse to do any of that. He doesn't know how...too stupid. I don't think so, "Cmdr". By his own admission, Mark *refuses* to do the above things. IOW, it's not about "can't" - it's about "won't." 73 de Jim, N2EY |
From: "John Smith" on Wed 27 Jul 2005 17:51
N2EY: I predict, because of this new threat which will disclose the sheer simplicity of amateur radio, the old hams will rally-up with a burst of new energy and surprise us all.... I think a new (re-discovered really) technology will be developed by the hams, in a joint effort of all classes, to develop and perfect the arcane lost knowledge of reincarnation. Dead hams will arise from their graves, grab keys and re-new old expired sk licenses. Element 1 shall never pass from this earth! RADIO HAM MORSE CODE ZOMBIES LORDS OF THE WIND! [working title] Soon to be a Major Motion Picture, produced by Dreamworks SKG! Hollywood finally beat the New Zealanders at something! Read all about it in Hollywood Reporter and Daily Variety! bip bap |
John Smith wrote:
N2EY: I was going to mention, the "commander" assisting you would do MUCH more harm than good... A "Thanks! But, NO thanks!" is probably the logical move... Says the no-license cber. |
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