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Old July 30th 05, 03:00 AM
an old friend
 
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John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

Really, deep inside, I am a decent human being, or would like to think I am.


since you haven't been around all of the last seven years I'll answer
you

I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next

Indeed these 2 related to why I never was able to pass a code test back
in the 70's, to 2 condictions affect me differently at deferent time
resulting in being able some days to as a reception test, and not
transmit it well enough and sometime the reverse, but always with
extreme headaches. I could spend the effort to contorl it better but
the RRAP is not worth those kinds of headaches

My professional work is recorded verbaly and then typed by someone
else. I am one of the persona for whom the written word is a challange,
always would, My harshest critics in the Newsgroup, esp Stevie know
this, and choose to make an issue of it

Your text has degraded here old friend, if you live alone, time to see a doctor
and get a check-up, you may have suffered a light stroke...


if you are seeing particular problem then likely I was typing about 45
to 60 minutes after taking the stronger allergy meds that this part of
the season me forces me to. Indeeed that a certain plant in bloom (one
farmed by my neighboor means I am spending more time inside dealing
with usenet)

I am not being flippant about this, and all joking has been set aside, but I
really do get a sense something is wrong, and fear for your health...

You may ignore my advice if you choose, but I have a real concern...

If I had just sat here without mentioning this, and something undesirable would
happen to you, it would truly cause me great grief to know, so no need to flame
me back. I really have considered my own mental health in all this too...


I hope you don't take this as Flaming you back, I am aware you have not
been arround for the whole show

Warmest regards,
John

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
From: K?B on Jul 29, 12:46 pm


"an old friend" wrote

gee I need more than the word of the people who developed it

The people who developed it did not call it an encryption method. (For the
simple reason that no cryptology is involved.)


Tsk, tsk, TSK! You FORGOT to mention the "papers" on the ARRL
website describing Peter Martinez' PSK31. [that's not like you]

You are skirting a very grey line on "cryptology." PSK31 is
NOT about "intentional obscuration of the meaning of a
communications," the boilerplate statement in Part 97 on
what can be sent or not sent by radio amateurs.

On the other hand, PSK31 is sufficiently UNLIKE conventional
TTY codings that it cannot be decoded by any TTY machinery
or even Hellschreiber.


and most artical I have read deal quickly with showing the PSK 31 which
Is a modulation different than most and an encoding of the character
different than most, that everyond kept talking about why is wasn't an
ilgeal code

Too many have the emotional labeling of "cryptology" in regards
to secrets and spies. In checking out Webster's New World
Dictionary, Prentice-Hall 1989, it defines "cryptography" as
"the art of writing or deciphering messages in code." Tsk, that
would apply to morse codes, wouldn't it? :-)


indeed it does as has been pointed out to hands in this or other
threads to Hans

a point or 2 about Morse as it compares to PSK 31

When someone says PSK 31 they mean the modulation and the character set

much like Morse Code you have the modulation which is assumed to be
OOKed CW, but doesn't have to realy (we have MCW sounds of dit and dah
on FM voice, or maybe alsoused to ID anautoumatic SSB to for all I
know)and the letter set

One could send Morse by FSK keying makeing it sound more like RTTY than
anything any ham would reconize and Morse, but one always means int eh
ARS the very specail mode/letter set

dit bit


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Old July 30th 05, 03:06 AM
John Smith
 
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an_old_friend:

Well buddy, we can't give you any special treatment, here you stand on your own
two feet.

However, I am glad you are aware of your condition and have tools to deal with
it. I will take in to consideration that you have a bit of disability.

Frankly, I am able to get the gist of your posts, if I misunderstand, I suppose
you will be more than willing to place me back on track...

Hip, hip, cheerio old bean, forward we go...

John

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

Really, deep inside, I am a decent human being, or would like to think I am.


since you haven't been around all of the last seven years I'll answer
you

I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next

Indeed these 2 related to why I never was able to pass a code test back
in the 70's, to 2 condictions affect me differently at deferent time
resulting in being able some days to as a reception test, and not
transmit it well enough and sometime the reverse, but always with
extreme headaches. I could spend the effort to contorl it better but
the RRAP is not worth those kinds of headaches

My professional work is recorded verbaly and then typed by someone
else. I am one of the persona for whom the written word is a challange,
always would, My harshest critics in the Newsgroup, esp Stevie know
this, and choose to make an issue of it

Your text has degraded here old friend, if you live alone, time to see a
doctor
and get a check-up, you may have suffered a light stroke...


if you are seeing particular problem then likely I was typing about 45
to 60 minutes after taking the stronger allergy meds that this part of
the season me forces me to. Indeeed that a certain plant in bloom (one
farmed by my neighboor means I am spending more time inside dealing
with usenet)

I am not being flippant about this, and all joking has been set aside, but I
really do get a sense something is wrong, and fear for your health...

You may ignore my advice if you choose, but I have a real concern...

If I had just sat here without mentioning this, and something undesirable
would
happen to you, it would truly cause me great grief to know, so no need to
flame
me back. I really have considered my own mental health in all this too...


I hope you don't take this as Flaming you back, I am aware you have not
been arround for the whole show

Warmest regards,
John

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
From: K?B on Jul 29, 12:46 pm


"an old friend" wrote

gee I need more than the word of the people who developed it

The people who developed it did not call it an encryption method. (For
the
simple reason that no cryptology is involved.)

Tsk, tsk, TSK! You FORGOT to mention the "papers" on the ARRL
website describing Peter Martinez' PSK31. [that's not like you]

You are skirting a very grey line on "cryptology." PSK31 is
NOT about "intentional obscuration of the meaning of a
communications," the boilerplate statement in Part 97 on
what can be sent or not sent by radio amateurs.

On the other hand, PSK31 is sufficiently UNLIKE conventional
TTY codings that it cannot be decoded by any TTY machinery
or even Hellschreiber.


and most artical I have read deal quickly with showing the PSK 31 which
Is a modulation different than most and an encoding of the character
different than most, that everyond kept talking about why is wasn't an
ilgeal code

Too many have the emotional labeling of "cryptology" in regards
to secrets and spies. In checking out Webster's New World
Dictionary, Prentice-Hall 1989, it defines "cryptography" as
"the art of writing or deciphering messages in code." Tsk, that
would apply to morse codes, wouldn't it? :-)


indeed it does as has been pointed out to hands in this or other
threads to Hans

a point or 2 about Morse as it compares to PSK 31

When someone says PSK 31 they mean the modulation and the character set

much like Morse Code you have the modulation which is assumed to be
OOKed CW, but doesn't have to realy (we have MCW sounds of dit and dah
on FM voice, or maybe alsoused to ID anautoumatic SSB to for all I
know)and the letter set

One could send Morse by FSK keying makeing it sound more like RTTY than
anything any ham would reconize and Morse, but one always means int eh
ARS the very specail mode/letter set

dit bit




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Old July 30th 05, 03:41 AM
an old friend
 
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John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

Well buddy, we can't give you any special treatment, here you stand on your own
two feet.

However, I am glad you are aware of your condition and have tools to deal with
it. I will take in to consideration that you have a bit of disability.

Frankly, I am able to get the gist of your posts, if I misunderstand, I suppose
you will be more than willing to place me back on track...


Indeed I am I also reservse to right with Folks when I think what is
happening is trying to pull chain to try and shoove that back some
where of my choice

and so if you look carefully you should see I respond to different
people differently, based on experence with them

Dan's "Inability" to understand my typing countries once he made clear
he though he knew what I was saying I blew him off, was politier with
Jim N2EY, becuase he IMO merits it. Stevie well esp with being
profesionaly medical and enaging the me the way he I does I give hi
realy short shift, and the effort I put into a post depends on who I am
repliing to as well

Hip, hip, cheerio old bean, forward we go...

John

"an old friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

John Smith wrote:
an_old_friend:

Really, deep inside, I am a decent human being, or would like to think I am.


since you haven't been around all of the last seven years I'll answer
you

I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next

Indeed these 2 related to why I never was able to pass a code test back
in the 70's, to 2 condictions affect me differently at deferent time
resulting in being able some days to as a reception test, and not
transmit it well enough and sometime the reverse, but always with
extreme headaches. I could spend the effort to contorl it better but
the RRAP is not worth those kinds of headaches

My professional work is recorded verbaly and then typed by someone
else. I am one of the persona for whom the written word is a challange,
always would, My harshest critics in the Newsgroup, esp Stevie know
this, and choose to make an issue of it

Your text has degraded here old friend, if you live alone, time to see a
doctor
and get a check-up, you may have suffered a light stroke...


if you are seeing particular problem then likely I was typing about 45
to 60 minutes after taking the stronger allergy meds that this part of
the season me forces me to. Indeeed that a certain plant in bloom (one
farmed by my neighboor means I am spending more time inside dealing
with usenet)

I am not being flippant about this, and all joking has been set aside, but I
really do get a sense something is wrong, and fear for your health...

You may ignore my advice if you choose, but I have a real concern...

If I had just sat here without mentioning this, and something undesirable
would
happen to you, it would truly cause me great grief to know, so no need to
flame
me back. I really have considered my own mental health in all this too...


I hope you don't take this as Flaming you back, I am aware you have not
been arround for the whole show

Warmest regards,
John

"an old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:
From: K?B on Jul 29, 12:46 pm


"an old friend" wrote

gee I need more than the word of the people who developed it

The people who developed it did not call it an encryption method. (For
the
simple reason that no cryptology is involved.)

Tsk, tsk, TSK! You FORGOT to mention the "papers" on the ARRL
website describing Peter Martinez' PSK31. [that's not like you]

You are skirting a very grey line on "cryptology." PSK31 is
NOT about "intentional obscuration of the meaning of a
communications," the boilerplate statement in Part 97 on
what can be sent or not sent by radio amateurs.

On the other hand, PSK31 is sufficiently UNLIKE conventional
TTY codings that it cannot be decoded by any TTY machinery
or even Hellschreiber.

and most artical I have read deal quickly with showing the PSK 31 which
Is a modulation different than most and an encoding of the character
different than most, that everyond kept talking about why is wasn't an
ilgeal code

Too many have the emotional labeling of "cryptology" in regards
to secrets and spies. In checking out Webster's New World
Dictionary, Prentice-Hall 1989, it defines "cryptography" as
"the art of writing or deciphering messages in code." Tsk, that
would apply to morse codes, wouldn't it? :-)

indeed it does as has been pointed out to hands in this or other
threads to Hans

a point or 2 about Morse as it compares to PSK 31

When someone says PSK 31 they mean the modulation and the character set

much like Morse Code you have the modulation which is assumed to be
OOKed CW, but doesn't have to realy (we have MCW sounds of dit and dah
on FM voice, or maybe alsoused to ID anautoumatic SSB to for all I
know)and the letter set

One could send Morse by FSK keying makeing it sound more like RTTY than
anything any ham would reconize and Morse, but one always means int eh
ARS the very specail mode/letter set

dit bit



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Old July 30th 05, 04:37 AM
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an old friend wrote:


I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next


I have noticed that one post may be very readable and the next very
difficult to decipher. I looked up Aphasia, and you are laboring under a
very difficult disability. Thus please accept my apology for the
comments I have made and it shant happen again. I applaud you for
hanging in there, this can be a tough bunch.
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Old July 30th 05, 04:43 AM
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commander:

Don't do that, just when I think I can hate (well, moderate dislike possibly)
you, you go and pull a fast one like that and show a good side to your
character?

My gawd, can't find enough decent enemies these days, good enemies are turning
out to be rarer than hams!

John

"Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message
...
an old friend wrote:


I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next


I have noticed that one post may be very readable and the next very difficult
to decipher. I looked up Aphasia, and you are laboring under a very difficult
disability. Thus please accept my apology for the comments I have made and it
shant happen again. I applaud you for hanging in there, this can be a tough
bunch.





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Old July 30th 05, 04:51 AM
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John Smith wrote:
commander:

Don't do that, just when I think I can hate (well, moderate dislike possibly)
you, you go and pull a fast one like that and show a good side to your
character?

My gawd, can't find enough decent enemies these days, good enemies are turning
out to be rarer than hams!

John



I know, it's a sick world out there.
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Old July 30th 05, 06:50 AM
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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:


I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next



I have noticed that one post may be very readable and the next very
difficult to decipher. I looked up Aphasia, and you are laboring under a
very difficult disability. Thus please accept my apology for the
comments I have made and it shant happen again. I applaud you for
hanging in there, this can be a tough bunch.


It'd be easier to deal with Mark if he didn't claim that 1) his earlier
newsreader didn't have a spell checker 2) he can't be bothered to use
the spellchecker in his current newsreader, 3) proofreading his material
is just too much bother for the likes of us and 4) his mistakes are
*our* problem, not his.

There is special equipment available to those with his handicap:
electronic spellers and dictionaries
word processors
talking calculators

It is evident that he does not choose to use them.

Finally, we have his past fabrications on his military service and why
he needs to keep a low profile. Mark has sought victim status here on
numerous occasions.


Dave K8MN


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Old July 30th 05, 06:56 AM
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Dave:

Thank you for your insight, it is well taken.

However, I don't read tea leaves well and I don't have a psychic brain cell to
my name--therefore, I error upon the side of caution.

I have been taken advantage of before. Being "made a fool of" will not be a
new experience to me, it has happened before.

Still, just in case, I give the benefit of the doubt...

John

"Dave Heil" wrote in message
nk.net...
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:


I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next



I have noticed that one post may be very readable and the next very
difficult to decipher. I looked up Aphasia, and you are laboring under a
very difficult disability. Thus please accept my apology for the comments I
have made and it shant happen again. I applaud you for hanging in there,
this can be a tough bunch.


It'd be easier to deal with Mark if he didn't claim that 1) his earlier
newsreader didn't have a spell checker 2) he can't be bothered to use the
spellchecker in his current newsreader, 3) proofreading his material is just
too much bother for the likes of us and 4) his mistakes are *our* problem,
not his.

There is special equipment available to those with his handicap:
electronic spellers and dictionaries
word processors
talking calculators

It is evident that he does not choose to use them.

Finally, we have his past fabrications on his military service and why he
needs to keep a low profile. Mark has sought victim status here on numerous
occasions.


Dave K8MN




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Old July 30th 05, 08:55 AM
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"Dave Heil" wrote in message
nk.net...
Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
an old friend wrote:


I suffer from Both Dyslexia and Dyslexiod Aphasia, the degree to which
eithe ror both bother me and affect my writing avries over time, Indeed
it is strongly affected by How much I need to take any med Esp My
alegeies meds (which can cause drouseyness, and how recently I have
taken thoose meds. so literly My abilty does vary from one minte to the
next


There is special equipment available to those with his handicap:
electronic spellers and dictionaries
word processors
talking calculators

It is evident that he does not choose to use them.

Finally, we have his past fabrications on his military service and why
he needs to keep a low profile. Mark has sought victim status here on
numerous occasions.


Dave K8MN

The above described disorders could easily define a certain Cretin from the
West Virginia area. As the saying goes, "You can lead an ignoramus to a
dictionary, but you can't teach him to use it."

Or something along those lines.





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Old July 30th 05, 03:17 PM
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John Smith wrote:

Why would terrorists use radio, even with the narrowest directive antennas and
broadcast to who-knows-who?


Simple, John.

Hide in plain sight. Make it look like a duck, sound like a duck
and quack like a duck, everyone thinks it's just another duck.

Just like 20 middle eastern guys did at flight schools around the
United States a few years back and then perpetrated one of the most
heinous acts of terrorism the world had ever seen.

Just my 0.02....

73

Steve, K4YZ

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