Ohhh, those boys in the NSA are smart alright (well, unless they got the job
because they are a relative/friend of someone who is somebody) and, I am sure
they have their tools, but if they even move to claim that encryption of data
by methods such as PGP and its equiv--I am afraid I would have to consider the
possibility they were lying...

John

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John Smith wrote:
Are you joking man?

I wish I was

But nothing that a hare brained sheme could say they might do will be
granted now


Why would terrorists use radio, even with the narrowest directive antennas
and
broadcast to who-knows-who?

Is it? After all the FCC can't seem to find the folks breaking the
rules now

and doing something that looks stupid is a classic in threat analisys
work

Good examples of it are in "the longest day" a german general was
pointing out how silly his plan for wining a wargame was Normandy bad
wether and low tide, which turned out to be what the Allies did

Using radio would be a soft target approuch


The FCC thinks them too ignorant to figure out the internet is a much better
vector?

I suspect there is much more on Al Jazerras' website than meets the eye...
but,
who knows?

Only Al quaeda knows for sure, if even they do

John

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John Smith wrote:
Anyone aware of any court challenges to the FCC banning the use of
"codes"
(encryption/decryption) on radio.

No I am not

It seems insane that encrypted data is exchanged freely on the internet
and
yet
regulations prevent its use on amateur radio, how such can be prevented
on
one
specific form of communications seems insane.

As I understand the matter it comes in part from concerns that Spies
would use Ham radio to do thier deeds

Today with al queada I can't see the FCC budging on this one


Very sophisticated means are even used to embed text/voice data in video
and
binary pictures which is virtually impossible to detect/decrypt with the
even
the fastest computers--within practical time periods (like millions of
years--let alone lifetimes.)

I have heard of this never studied it could something like that be used
to embed same in something like SSTV

John

OTOH Your mention PGP I suppose based on the discusions of the USE of
PSK 31 and other modes you could argue the use PGP would be legal is
the non encoded parts of the tranmision in addition to your Call sign
contained the addresses where both of the keys could be found. The
addresses would have to be acesable over say the internet but it should
be legal

Alothough the FCC is liable to try to make a fight of it, one that
isn't worth it to me at anyrate