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Dee Flint August 17th 05 02:28 AM


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:



[snip]


No I can't, 5 years pretty well proved that


Well I believe it was Alun who, for 15 years, "proved" he couldn't learn
code. Then he found the right teachers. Part of the problem is that many
people do NOT really know how to teach the code even though they may be
proficient at using it.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE




John Smith August 17th 05 02:40 AM


This, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check."

should have been, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have [NOT]
purchased the expensive software just to gain spell check."

.... but then, you most likely guess that, and demonstrated a clear ability
to read through typos ...

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:26:48 -0700, John Smith wrote:

You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check.



Dee Flint August 17th 05 02:47 AM


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


[snip]

You refuse to use a spellchecker.

yes I do

That makes you a voluntary idiot.

no it makes me at worst stuborn

You want me to spend time and energy on what you want?

You are a fool if you think you can bully me into doing your will


One becuase it is made as a demand

Two, becuase in sending a message to someone that does not want to
recieve it it takes special action. Have you not heard that the man
that will not listen to the shout may strain to hear the wisper. Other
are efectively shoutin gth message, in making Stevie and other strain
for it you also make em think about it, It is simply one more tool in
the aresenal

Three, It take alot of time and effort

Four in going and On about the message they help to reach the real
audience which is the lurker gruop out there

In the NoCode movements various people are taking various parts My
message gets out there well enough to suit me, but every voice need not
reach all the listeners

Five producing prefectly correct spelling (I went to trouble for awhile
some years back) will not stop the flaming from Stevie and Dave, and I
prefer the flavour of these flames to the others I have seen

BTW I am totaly convinced that Stevie understand better than 95%, his
complaints of Giberish are too well placed against the center of my
arguements to beleive otherwise, that with the fact that the degree to
which folks seem to have problems with my depends directly on the
degree to which they oppose my ideas also leads me to conclusion I am
comunicating quite well indeed

Any questions? You are being polite so I will try and answer you

But why be so stubborn about using a spell checker? Is your ego more
important than your message? In every communications class that I have
ever
been involved in, the instructors taught that it is the message that is
important. It is the responsibility of the person wanting to communicate
that message to be sure it is sent in a manner that the audience can
understand. If your audience tunes out because of the extra effort to
read
or listen to it because of avoidable problems, it is your fault not
theirs.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes (and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible. I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Dee Flint August 17th 05 02:48 AM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
AOF:

The people who are asking you about a spell checker probably got their
software (windows) with the computer. Or, they have purchased expensive
microsoft office, works, etc and it gave them the ability to incorporate
their spell checker directly into outlook express.

You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check.


Outlook Express comes with a spell checker without having to purchase
additional software.

Am I close to correct?

John


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Dee Flint August 17th 05 02:52 AM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...

This, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the
expensive
software just to gain spell check."

should have been, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have [NOT]
purchased the expensive software just to gain spell check."

... but then, you most likely guess that, and demonstrated a clear ability
to read through typos ...

John


As I said, Outlook Express comes with a spell checker build in with no need
to purchase additional software.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



John Smith August 17th 05 03:32 AM

Dee:

On my "Windows XP Pro" w/sp2, had to add MS Word (MS Office) to get spell
check. Find it hard to believe bill started giving anything away, well,
anything worthwhile...

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:52:04 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"John Smith" wrote in message
...

This, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the
expensive
software just to gain spell check."

should have been, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have [NOT]
purchased the expensive software just to gain spell check."

... but then, you most likely guess that, and demonstrated a clear ability
to read through typos ...

John


As I said, Outlook Express comes with a spell checker build in with no need
to purchase additional software.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



John Smith August 17th 05 03:37 AM

Dee:

If I took the time to read and carefully check usenet posts, think of the
intricate detail I would pay attention to with important things in my
life, and how little time I would soon have... a usenet post is a casual
exchange medium, not a doctors thesis written in perfect script with a
quill pen on the finest parchment!

You letting them fool you into thinking these posts are archived into
gov't archives for posterity? Guarded my secret agent types with brass
keys ready to sound the SOS to the CIA?

.... naaaa ....

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:47:18 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

[snip]

You refuse to use a spellchecker.

yes I do

That makes you a voluntary idiot.

no it makes me at worst stuborn

You want me to spend time and energy on what you want?

You are a fool if you think you can bully me into doing your will


One becuase it is made as a demand

Two, becuase in sending a message to someone that does not want to
recieve it it takes special action. Have you not heard that the man
that will not listen to the shout may strain to hear the wisper. Other
are efectively shoutin gth message, in making Stevie and other strain
for it you also make em think about it, It is simply one more tool in
the aresenal

Three, It take alot of time and effort

Four in going and On about the message they help to reach the real
audience which is the lurker gruop out there

In the NoCode movements various people are taking various parts My
message gets out there well enough to suit me, but every voice need not
reach all the listeners

Five producing prefectly correct spelling (I went to trouble for awhile
some years back) will not stop the flaming from Stevie and Dave, and I
prefer the flavour of these flames to the others I have seen

BTW I am totaly convinced that Stevie understand better than 95%, his
complaints of Giberish are too well placed against the center of my
arguements to beleive otherwise, that with the fact that the degree to
which folks seem to have problems with my depends directly on the
degree to which they oppose my ideas also leads me to conclusion I am
comunicating quite well indeed

Any questions? You are being polite so I will try and answer you

But why be so stubborn about using a spell checker? Is your ego more
important than your message? In every communications class that I have
ever
been involved in, the instructors taught that it is the message that is
important. It is the responsibility of the person wanting to communicate
that message to be sure it is sent in a manner that the audience can
understand. If your audience tunes out because of the extra effort to
read
or listen to it because of avoidable problems, it is your fault not
theirs.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes (and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible. I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



an_old_friend August 17th 05 03:49 AM


John Smith wrote:
AOF:

The people who are asking you about a spell checker probably got their
software (windows) with the computer. Or, they have purchased expensive
microsoft office, works, etc and it gave them the ability to incorporate
their spell checker directly into outlook express.

You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check.

Am I close to correct?


Pretty close

My ISP does not provide a Usenet server and the software that could
spell check a usenet post (in my poscession) would require me to spend
money to aquire access to such a server. Google which I am using is
free but does not provide such a spell checker so you are very close
indeed


John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:18:58 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

[snip]

You refuse to use a spellchecker.

yes I do

That makes you a voluntary idiot.

no it makes me at worst stuborn

You want me to spend time and energy on what you want?

You are a fool if you think you can bully me into doing your will


One becuase it is made as a demand

Two, becuase in sending a message to someone that does not want to
recieve it it takes special action. Have you not heard that the man
that will not listen to the shout may strain to hear the wisper. Other
are efectively shoutin gth message, in making Stevie and other strain
for it you also make em think about it, It is simply one more tool in
the aresenal

Three, It take alot of time and effort

Four in going and On about the message they help to reach the real
audience which is the lurker gruop out there

In the NoCode movements various people are taking various parts My
message gets out there well enough to suit me, but every voice need not
reach all the listeners

Five producing prefectly correct spelling (I went to trouble for awhile
some years back) will not stop the flaming from Stevie and Dave, and I
prefer the flavour of these flames to the others I have seen

BTW I am totaly convinced that Stevie understand better than 95%, his
complaints of Giberish are too well placed against the center of my
arguements to beleive otherwise, that with the fact that the degree to
which folks seem to have problems with my depends directly on the
degree to which they oppose my ideas also leads me to conclusion I am
comunicating quite well indeed

Any questions? You are being polite so I will try and answer you

But why be so stubborn about using a spell checker? Is your ego more
important than your message? In every communications class that I have ever
been involved in, the instructors taught that it is the message that is
important. It is the responsibility of the person wanting to communicate
that message to be sure it is sent in a manner that the audience can
understand. If your audience tunes out because of the extra effort to read
or listen to it because of avoidable problems, it is your fault not theirs.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE
Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



an_old_friend August 17th 05 03:51 AM


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


[snip]


No I can't, 5 years pretty well proved that


Well I believe it was Alun who, for 15 years, "proved" he couldn't learn
code. Then he found the right teachers. Part of the problem is that many
people do NOT really know how to teach the code even though they may be
proficient at using it.


Ms Flint, I spent 5 years in my teens working with a Specail ed teacher
and Ham radio operator, the teacher specaily was LD's such my Dyslexia
and Dyslexiod Aphasia.



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



an_old_friend August 17th 05 03:54 AM

John My mind sorted through to your meaning without even noticing your
mistake

This ability is BTW one the things that make my condiction realy rough
some times my mind, It is also is the part of the package that puts
food on the table

John Smith wrote:
This, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check."

should have been, "You, apparently, do not have that ability or have [NOT]
purchased the expensive software just to gain spell check."

... but then, you most likely guess that, and demonstrated a clear ability
to read through typos ...

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 18:26:48 -0700, John Smith wrote:

You, apparently, do not have that ability or have purchased the expensive
software just to gain spell check.




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