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K4YZ August 15th 05 04:44 PM


wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday
...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek
sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio


The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of
the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling
"adyday".


Smug Dave still trying to be funny abaout an SOS/Mayday.


But Brian...YOU are the one who's lambasted others in this forum
about not having a proper sense of humor.

Was that previous assertion false, or are you just changing your
rant to match the situation at present?

Steve, K4YZ


K4YZ August 15th 05 04:59 PM


an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


then you are of course a sick ******* but we knew that


As I understand it, you believe me to be sick for laughing at the very
idea of someone even thinking of using a mode he claims not to be able
to use. I find it more than a little amusing. It is your fantasy so
feel free to modify it. I like the guy shouting "Ayday" too.


No stupid I think you are sick for being willing to ignore a distress
call if it were misent


If it were "misent", how would one know it were a distress
call...?!?!

I think you are sick for laughing at the Fact I would try to help
someone in distresss


It's not about you trying to help...It's about you whirling around
in your chair, ensnared in recording tape, trying to run and re-run the
tape to figure out what was being said, now hours ago...

I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot
on the earth would make a good subject for a joke.


Just comenting on your own words


"Commenting", Mark. You aren't commenting on my words. You know
nothing of DXing and precious little of my operations on 6m or any other
band.


I am comenting on your words

Indeed all I have is your words

and YOUR words make you look guilty


They make him look nothing of the sort.

But YOU trying to MAKE him "look guilty" where no guilt exists is
hillarious!

but then you don't respoibility for your actions


I don't repoibility?

I take full responsibility for my actions. My conscience is clear.
I still think you're a twit.


Indeed I am sure you feel no guilt at helping other break the law


He didn't help anyone break any law...At least no law YOU have
been able to produce. And we've asked you over and over with ample
opportunity to respond to cite such a law.

You haven't.

You can't.

It doesn't exist.

I would also find your lifetime of professional victimhood a good
subject for a joke.


and more of your Stevie type lies


That isn't a lie, Mark. Victimhood is what you're all about. You can't
pass a morse code test and you're a victim. You put together an English
sentence and that's someone else's problem and you're a victim because
of your handicap. Let's all get together and feel sorry for poor Mark.
Let's try to make it easy on him because he just can't do things.


More of your lies


Nope.

Dead square head-on-the-nail.

Look for a package in the mail, Markie.

I'll send you some Excederin.

Steve, K4YZ


an_old_friend August 15th 05 06:23 PM


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


Don't try to make the scenario something altogether different. We were
discussing *you* attempting to respond to a morse distress call. Now
you want to shift things around so I'm ignoring a distress call.


The subject reactions to distress call yours and mine


He just doesn't get it, Dave.

Or is it that he's just been hearing those little voices for so
long he COULDN'T hear the distress call?

I think you are sick for laughing at the Fact I would try to help
someone in distresss

From you own tale of your experience with trying to learn morse, you'd
be 1) incapable of recognizing that it was an emergency and 2) incapable
of understanding what help was needed.


more of your pack of lies


Nope.

From the archived words of Mark C. Morgan, KB9RQZ.

YOU said you COULDN'T DO IT.


Nope I said I can't when restricted to just the use of my ear


Unless, of course, you're now changing your story and claiming you
CAN learn Morse?


nope No need to learn Morse in order to use morse

Even Jim adknowledges that


You refuse to acept facts


You refuse to use a spellchecker.


yes I do

It isn't hard to reconize SoS


It is if you don't know Morse Code.


a few letter sure can't keep the whole set in my mind though


Once reconized the action needed is clear, For me of course the
procedure is different I would record the signal for play back later.
Then I try ruing it though a computer decode, which should recover much
of the signal. or if not I send using the PC a sginal reequesting more
data...(SNIP)


If you can't copy code without the computer, how are you going to
send it?


By using the computer to do so

I have done so many times

Indeed a FD station where I was doing so may even be in Your log


I run it through until I have or find I can't read it with a
machine. If i can't read it then I start calling people who can read
the signal play it for them let them decode it and/or get them on the
Air to render more assistance than I can


And by the time this has all transpired and you've spent a couple
hours banging out your dreck in RRAP due to your frustrations at not
knowing if it was a distress signal or Dave and I talking about you,
the ship has gone down with loss of life. Too bad, too...There was a
tanker only 10 miles away that could have diverted and assisted...


wel you yea sure it would take me longer, never diened that and yea if
the ship is sinking fast I may not be able to help, butAt least I tried


So your satement "From you own tale of your experience with trying to
learn morse, you'd be 1) incapable of recognizing that it was an
emergency and 2) incapable of understanding what help was needed.", Is
a bald faced lie,and if you had any brains you'd know that.


He does have the brains. He very aptly pointed out that you have
not learned Morse Code and as a consequence can not respond in a prompt
and meaningful manner.


dpends on how well the morse was send if the operator was good I can
turn it around in acouple of minutes if it is bad then maybe an hour

But I could respond in seconds tell them someone was trying to decode
and tell em things to do in sending there signal that would help my PC
to copy


I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot
on the earth would make a good subject for a joke.


Just comenting on your own words

"Commenting", Mark. You aren't commenting on my words. You know
nothing of DXing and precious little of my operations on 6m or any other
band.


I am comenting on your words

Indeed all I have is your words

and YOUR words make you look guilty

Okay, Mark, I'll play your game. On which particular words of mine are
you commenting?


the word you refuse to say, the answer to the question of when you
worked those out of band hams did you know they were out of band or
not. Not were you responible to know or any other evasion.


Why, Mark, is that an "evasion"...?!?!

It remains the point. He wasn't required to know.


it was never the point

but then you don't respoibility for your actions

I don't repoibility?

I take full responsibility for my actions. My conscience is clear.
I still think you're a twit.


Indeed I am sure you feel no guilt at helping other break the law

I helped no others break any law unless you take the very peculiar and
totally incorrect view that by merely showing up on a band, I enticed
someone to break his country's regs. Others have attempted to correct
your mistaken perception, but you've simply ignored them.


becuase you and all of them dance around the central quetion what did
you know and when did you know it


There's not dancing.

Just you trying to shift the dance floor while the music's still
playing.


not that is your gig

If You only learned afterward they were out of band then Find I agree
you were in the clear. If you knew before or during then it is another
matter

you dance and dance avoiding this question


In either case, he's "in the clear".

Dave had NO OBLIGATION to know who was in or out of the bands per
THIER administration's requiremments.



None under US law...None under Tanzanian law...None under
International law.


more evasion

Which means YOU haven't got a leg to stand on.


the longer you 2 dance around missing the point the better it gets

Have a nice day.

Steve, K4YZ



an_old_friend August 15th 05 06:27 PM


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:


then you are of course a sick ******* but we knew that

As I understand it, you believe me to be sick for laughing at the very
idea of someone even thinking of using a mode he claims not to be able
to use. I find it more than a little amusing. It is your fantasy so
feel free to modify it. I like the guy shouting "Ayday" too.


No stupid I think you are sick for being willing to ignore a distress
call if it were misent


If it were "misent", how would one know it were a distress
call...?!?!


by trying to find out

I think you are sick for laughing at the Fact I would try to help
someone in distresss


It's not about you trying to help...It's about you whirling around
in your chair, ensnared in recording tape, trying to run and re-run the
tape to figure out what was being said, now hours ago...


Bull**** No one use tape certainly not for anything of import, My pc
would record digitaly

Even Jim admits you can work CW with by PC, maybe not as well but not
as well beats nothing to distress call


I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot
on the earth would make a good subject for a joke.


Just comenting on your own words

"Commenting", Mark. You aren't commenting on my words. You know
nothing of DXing and precious little of my operations on 6m or any other
band.


I am comenting on your words

Indeed all I have is your words

and YOUR words make you look guilty


They make him look nothing of the sort.


they sure do

But YOU trying to MAKE him "look guilty" where no guilt exists is
hillarious!


I know you laugh anyone that thinks.


but then you don't respoibility for your actions

I don't repoibility?

I take full responsibility for my actions. My conscience is clear.
I still think you're a twit.


Indeed I am sure you feel no guilt at helping other break the law


He didn't help anyone break any law...At least no law YOU have
been able to produce. And we've asked you over and over with ample
opportunity to respond to cite such a law.


he cites the law they broke

operating out of band

asuming he happens to have known up front, the question he is dodging
does the rest


You haven't.

You can't.

It doesn't exist.



alreeady done

I would also find your lifetime of professional victimhood a good
subject for a joke.


and more of your Stevie type lies

That isn't a lie, Mark. Victimhood is what you're all about. You can't
pass a morse code test and you're a victim. You put together an English
sentence and that's someone else's problem and you're a victim because
of your handicap. Let's all get together and feel sorry for poor Mark.
Let's try to make it easy on him because he just can't do things.


More of your lies


Nope.

Dead square head-on-the-nail.

Look for a package in the mail, Markie.


if true except it back from the Postal inspector

I'll send you some Excederin.

Steve, K4YZ



Dave Heil August 15th 05 09:58 PM

an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

an_old_friend wrote:

Dave Heil wrote:


an_old_friend wrote:


Dave Heil wrote:



an_old_friend wrote:



Dave Heil wrote:




an_old_friend wrote:




KØHB wrote:

cut




Likewise.


more of your cuting context
I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show

you as a pretty unfeeling SoB


And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you
are sick as well as unfeeling

In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one
afflicted with perpetual PMS.


well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well

Oh no, Mark, I think that the very idea of you responding to an SOS sent
in morse, is a good subject of a joke.


then you are of course a sick ******* but we knew that

As I understand it, you believe me to be sick for laughing at the very
idea of someone even thinking of using a mode he claims not to be able
to use. I find it more than a little amusing. It is your fantasy so
feel free to modify it. I like the guy shouting "Ayday" too.


No stupid I think you are sick for being willing to ignore a distress
call if it were misent


Don't try to make the scenario something altogether different. We were
discussing *you* attempting to respond to a morse distress call. Now
you want to shift things around so I'm ignoring a distress call.



The subject reactions to distress call yours and mine


What?


I think you are sick for laughing at the Fact I would try to help
someone in distresss


From you own tale of your experience with trying to learn morse, you'd
be 1) incapable of recognizing that it was an emergency and 2) incapable
of understanding what help was needed.



more of your pack of lies


What lies, Mark?

You refuse to acept facts


Which facts, Mark?

It isn't hard to reconize SoS


Not for me, it isn't.

Once reconized the action needed is clear, For me of course the
procedure is different I would record the signal for play back later.
Then I try ruing it though a computer decode, which should recover much
of the signal. or if not I send using the PC a sginal reequesting more
data I run it through until I have or find I can't read it with a
machine. If i can't read it then I start calling people who can read
the signal play it for them let them decode it and/or get them on the
Air to render more assistance than I can


That's one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

So your satement "From you own tale of your experience with trying to
learn morse, you'd be 1) incapable of recognizing that it was an
emergency and 2) incapable of understanding what help was needed.", Is
a bald faced lie,and if you had any brains you'd know that.


Sure, Mark. "OSOSOSO" and "ayday" to you.

I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot
on the earth would make a good subject for a joke.


Just comenting on your own words

"Commenting", Mark. You aren't commenting on my words. You know
nothing of DXing and precious little of my operations on 6m or any other
band.


I am comenting on your words

Indeed all I have is your words

and YOUR words make you look guilty


Okay, Mark, I'll play your game. On which particular words of mine are
you commenting?



the word you refuse to say, the answer to the question of when you
worked those out of band hams did you know they were out of band or
not. Not were you responible to know or any other evasion.


You said that you were commenting on my words. When I ask which words,
you tell me that they are the words I haven't written. That's not logical.


but then you don't respoibility for your actions

I don't repoibility?

I take full responsibility for my actions. My conscience is clear.
I still think you're a twit.


Indeed I am sure you feel no guilt at helping other break the law


I helped no others break any law unless you take the very peculiar and
totally incorrect view that by merely showing up on a band, I enticed
someone to break his country's regs. Others have attempted to correct
your mistaken perception, but you've simply ignored them.



becuase you and all of them dance around the central quetion what did
you know and when did you know it


I think you should arrange some sort of Senate Inquiry and we can all
get to the bottom of this.

If You only learned afterward they were out of band then Find I agree
you were in the clear. If you knew before or during then it is another
matter


Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote earlier. I don't care what
you believe. Others have attempted to correct your erroneous thinking.
Their attempts were in vain.

you dance and dance avoiding this question


Now you have me dancing. Earlier, I was guilty because of silence.
You're a twit.


Dave K8MN

[email protected] August 15th 05 11:33 PM


K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

SATIRE =3D JOKE


Your dictionary is farkled. My Funk & Wagnalls says "ridicule, irony, sa=

rcasm",
with nary a reference to "joke" or "humor".
=20
Beep beep
de Hans, K0HB


Your little joke wasn't funny.


[email protected] August 15th 05 11:35 PM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
K=D8HB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB

So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB.

And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizi=

ng satire
like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read m=

y posts. I
can't guarantee they won't distress you.


SATIRE =3D JOKE


Perhaps you should invest in a Dictionary and figure out what a
"joke" is and what "satire" is, Brain...

Steve, K4YZ


Perhaps you should read "Stolen Valor" and find out what happens to
people who make up war stories.


[email protected] August 15th 05 11:38 PM


K=D8HB wrote:
wrote

If you are experienced as you claim, then you
would have known how to answer the question.


I properly answered a stupid patronizing question with a stupid ridicule(=

ous)
answer.


That's too bad.

Your answer falls into the category, "Poor Amateur Practice."


"Poor Amateur Practice" happens on the amateur bands. My answer falls in=

to the
category, "Good Usenet Practice", that of poking holes in puffed up ballo=

ons.

Revisionist history of the circumstances.


[email protected] August 15th 05 11:41 PM


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:

wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday
...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek
sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio

The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of
the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling
"adyday".


Smug Dave still trying to be funny abaout an SOS/Mayday.


But Brian...YOU are the one who's lambasted others in this forum
about not having a proper sense of humor.

Was that previous assertion false, or are you just changing your
rant to match the situation at present?


Hello DeShawn.


John Smith August 15th 05 11:44 PM


.... perhaps we should focus on amateur radio and forget pseudo-military,
spys, secret agents, morse freaks planning on saving the titanic,
boring-ancient stories, etc, etc...

John

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:35:29 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
wrote:
KØHB wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote

show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB

So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB.

And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing satire
like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my posts. I
can't guarantee they won't distress you.

SATIRE = JOKE


Perhaps you should invest in a Dictionary and figure out what a
"joke" is and what "satire" is, Brain...

Steve, K4YZ


Perhaps you should read "Stolen Valor" and find out what happens to
people who make up war stories.




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