Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

[snip]

You refuse to use a spellchecker.

yes I do

That makes you a voluntary idiot.

no it makes me at worst stuborn

You want me to spend time and energy on what you want?

You are a fool if you think you can bully me into doing your will


One becuase it is made as a demand

Two, becuase in sending a message to someone that does not want to
recieve it it takes special action. Have you not heard that the man
that will not listen to the shout may strain to hear the wisper. Other
are efectively shoutin gth message, in making Stevie and other strain
for it you also make em think about it, It is simply one more tool in
the aresenal

Three, It take alot of time and effort

Four in going and On about the message they help to reach the real
audience which is the lurker gruop out there

In the NoCode movements various people are taking various parts My
message gets out there well enough to suit me, but every voice need not
reach all the listeners

Five producing prefectly correct spelling (I went to trouble for awhile
some years back) will not stop the flaming from Stevie and Dave, and I
prefer the flavour of these flames to the others I have seen

BTW I am totaly convinced that Stevie understand better than 95%, his
complaints of Giberish are too well placed against the center of my
arguements to beleive otherwise, that with the fact that the degree to
which folks seem to have problems with my depends directly on the
degree to which they oppose my ideas also leads me to conclusion I am
comunicating quite well indeed

Any questions? You are being polite so I will try and answer you

But why be so stubborn about using a spell checker? Is your ego more
important than your message? In every communications class that I have
ever
been involved in, the instructors taught that it is the message that is
important. It is the responsibility of the person wanting to communicate
that message to be sure it is sent in a manner that the audience can
understand. If your audience tunes out because of the extra effort to
read
or listen to it because of avoidable problems, it is your fault not
theirs.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes (and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible. I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

You are of course free to do so

I want people to process what I write not merely read it, and judging
by Stevies behvoir I do a pretty good, which is likely why he goes into
such a frenzy since I am getting through to him, and others like him


Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

John Smith wrote:
Dee:

Break
If I took the time to read and carefully check usenet posts, think of the
intricate detail I would pay attention to with important things in my
life, and how little time I would soon have... a usenet post is a casual
exchange medium, not a doctors thesis written in perfect script with a
quill pen on the finest parchment!

You letting them fool you into thinking these posts are archived into
gov't archives for posterity? Guarded my secret agent types with brass
keys ready to sound the SOS to the CIA?

Thank you John on many levels I could never have said that better
myself

... naaaa ....

John

AOF:

I will share something important with you, a secret I am rather ashamed
of. In latter elementary school and most of high school, because of my
height and speed, I was rather a bully.

I fear I made some other kids lives a "bit of hell" rather than just
taking my insignificant (and rightly so) place in the scheme of things and
attempting to make my teachers and parents proud of my caliber, I let them
down--worse, and even worse--myself.

The good news is I learned better... I took what steps I could to
apologize and set things right, after I had gained the common sense to
see it for the insanity it was...

The bad news, I still think about it and feel sad... I suppose it will be
like that to my grave, perhaps a lot longer...

If the lesson I learned is of value to anyone else, I summarize it here,
"When you strike another person, the blow really lands upon you. You just
don't see that it does you the damage, others do..."

I still would not back down from a fight, but the other clearly has to ask
for it.

John

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:51:57 -0700, an_old_friend wrote:


Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
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K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


[snip]


No I can't, 5 years pretty well proved that

Well I believe it was Alun who, for 15 years, "proved" he couldn't learn
code. Then he found the right teachers. Part of the problem is that many
people do NOT really know how to teach the code even though they may be
proficient at using it.

Ms Flint, I spent 5 years in my teens working with a Specail ed teacher
and Ham radio operator, the teacher specaily was LD's such my Dyslexia
and Dyslexiod Aphasia.



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

From: on Tues 16 Aug 2005 16:33


wrote:

All you EXTRA MORSEMEN ought to be PROUD of a fellow EXTRA, N9KKY,
David G. Brink, now listed under WT Docket 05-235 in the ECFS as
received on 8 August 2005 and added by the FCC on 15 August 2005.
A one-page scrawled hand-printed and very shaky written name
signature dated (by the sender) as 31 July 2005, a Sunday. No
doubt that Sunday featured some slightly excessive imbibing prior
to scrawling this magnificent missive.

Len, we could apply the null hypothesis. It could have been a
disgruntled NCTA trying to make the PCTA look bad. But there's two
problems with that hypothesis:

a. The NCTA have nothing to be disgruntled about except a quarter
century of arbitrary and unnecessary government regulation, and

b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help.

Heh heh heh...I agree on both counts!

Quod erat demonstrandum.

end nul

"John Smith" wrote in message
news
Dee:

If I took the time to read and carefully check usenet posts, think of the
intricate detail I would pay attention to with important things in my
life, and how little time I would soon have... a usenet post is a casual
exchange medium, not a doctors thesis written in perfect script with a
quill pen on the finest parchment!

You letting them fool you into thinking these posts are archived into
gov't archives for posterity? Guarded my secret agent types with brass
keys ready to sound the SOS to the CIA?

... naaaa ....

John


Nope but it isn't worth my time to compose if people aren't going to bother
reading it. If I'm not going to take the time to do it reasonably well, I'm
not going to bother at all.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:47:18 -0400, Dee Flint wrote:


"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

[snip]

You refuse to use a spellchecker.

yes I do

That makes you a voluntary idiot.

no it makes me at worst stuborn

You want me to spend time and energy on what you want?

You are a fool if you think you can bully me into doing your will


One becuase it is made as a demand

Two, becuase in sending a message to someone that does not want to
recieve it it takes special action. Have you not heard that the man
that will not listen to the shout may strain to hear the wisper. Other
are efectively shoutin gth message, in making Stevie and other strain
for it you also make em think about it, It is simply one more tool in
the aresenal

Three, It take alot of time and effort

Four in going and On about the message they help to reach the real
audience which is the lurker gruop out there

In the NoCode movements various people are taking various parts My
message gets out there well enough to suit me, but every voice need not
reach all the listeners

Five producing prefectly correct spelling (I went to trouble for awhile
some years back) will not stop the flaming from Stevie and Dave, and I
prefer the flavour of these flames to the others I have seen

BTW I am totaly convinced that Stevie understand better than 95%, his
complaints of Giberish are too well placed against the center of my
arguements to beleive otherwise, that with the fact that the degree to
which folks seem to have problems with my depends directly on the
degree to which they oppose my ideas also leads me to conclusion I am
comunicating quite well indeed

Any questions? You are being polite so I will try and answer you

But why be so stubborn about using a spell checker? Is your ego more
important than your message? In every communications class that I have
ever
been involved in, the instructors taught that it is the message that is
important. It is the responsibility of the person wanting to
communicate
that message to be sure it is sent in a manner that the audience can
understand. If your audience tunes out because of the extra effort to
read
or listen to it because of avoidable problems, it is your fault not
theirs.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned
on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes
(and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take
time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible.
I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


[snip]


No I can't, 5 years pretty well proved that

Well I believe it was Alun who, for 15 years, "proved" he couldn't learn
code. Then he found the right teachers. Part of the problem is that
many
people do NOT really know how to teach the code even though they may be
proficient at using it.

Ms Flint, I spent 5 years in my teens working with a Specail ed teacher
and Ham radio operator, the teacher specaily was LD's such my Dyslexia
and Dyslexiod Aphasia.



Which is great but doesn't mean he/she had the correct training in teaching
code. It is a bit different than teaching other subjects.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

an_old_friend wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes (and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible. I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

You are of course free to do so

I want people to process what I write not merely read it, and judging
by Stevies behvoir I do a pretty good, which is likely why he goes into
such a frenzy since I am getting through to him, and others like him

What you are "getting through to (me)" is this:

(1) That you're a pathological liar that can't tell the truth
since it will disrupt your rants in this newsgroup. What a petty
excuse for not telling the truth.

(2) You exhibit significant paranoid behaviour. Your constant
rants of "stalking", "bully" and "attempting to kill me" are classic.
Wrap this up in your "I am a victim" personna and you have some pretty
lame stories.

(3) You probably are a fairly intelligent person, but you INSIST
on LOOKING like an idiot. Your excuses as to why you can't manage to
spell check your posts are transparent, baseless and are in direct
opposition to OTHER posts you've made about what great resources you
have at your disposal. Again...More stories that your OWN words
unravel.

Your spelling HAS been getting better...Now if we can just funnel
it into more coherent sentences based on some truth, you'll be well on
your way to getting better as a human being.

Steve, K4YZ

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
ups.com...

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:


[snip]


No I can't, 5 years pretty well proved that

Well I believe it was Alun who, for 15 years, "proved" he couldn't learn
code. Then he found the right teachers. Part of the problem is that
many
people do NOT really know how to teach the code even though they may be
proficient at using it.

Ms Flint, I spent 5 years in my teens working with a Specail ed teacher
and Ham radio operator, the teacher specaily was LD's such my Dyslexia
and Dyslexiod Aphasia.



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Which is great but doesn't mean he/she had the correct training in teaching
code. It is a bit different than teaching other subjects.

You know MS Flint claiming that Morse Code is so different that specail
in Education In LD educatio who are ham themselves can't teach it
right, is pretty bad

You are starting to sound like Stevie, "he didn't work hard enough"
didn't have the right teacher etc

what was the point?

If effort was the point I put it in

If code was that manifextly import why does the ITU and the FCC disgree
with you

Even if you happen to be right why should I spend more time on the off
chance you are right



Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
Dee Flint wrote:
"an_old_friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Well it is your choice but frankly I skip any message that takes extra
effort to decipher. I keep my spell checker and grammar checker turned on
at all times despite the fact that I received straight A's throughout
elementary school, high school, and college in all the English classes (and
related classes) that I took. Even with these aids turned on, I take time
to look through my message and make sure that it is as clear as possible. I
want people to read what I've written. Otherwise why bother to write
anything?

You are of course free to do so

I want people to process what I write not merely read it, and judging
by Stevies behvoir I do a pretty good, which is likely why he goes into
such a frenzy since I am getting through to him, and others like him

What you are "getting through to (me)" is this:

(1) That you're a pathological liar that can't tell the truth
since it will disrupt your rants in this newsgroup. What a petty
excuse for not telling the truth.

Nope it doesn't dispurt my message at all

more medical judgements made impoperly


(2) You exhibit significant paranoid behaviour. Your constant
rants of "stalking", "bully" and "attempting to kill me" are classic.
Wrap this up in your "I am a victim" personna and you have some pretty
lame stories.

get it right

Threatening to kill

you can't even tell your lies straight


(3) You probably are a fairly intelligent person, but you INSIST
on LOOKING like an idiot. Your excuses as to why you can't manage to
spell check your posts are transparent, baseless and are in direct
opposition to OTHER posts you've made about what great resources you
have at your disposal. Again...More stories that your OWN words
unravel.

I don't waste resources which Is why I have suffiecent resources

but here they would be wasted

Even in a post with nothing spelled wrong my post to the FCC you can't
manage to say anything on point

Your spelling HAS been getting better...Now if we can just funnel
it into more coherent sentences based on some truth, you'll be well on
your way to getting better as a human being.

you are the liar

Steve, K4YZ

an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

What you are "getting through to (me)" is this:

(1) That you're a pathological liar that can't tell the truth
since it will disrupt your rants in this newsgroup. What a petty
excuse for not telling the truth.

Nope it doesn't dispurt my message at all

"dispurt"

Sure it does.

Telling lies that are so transparent ALWAYS disrupt the flow of
information.

more medical judgements made impoperly

No medical judegements made here, Markie.

(2) You exhibit significant paranoid behaviour. Your constant
rants of "stalking", "bully" and "attempting to kill me" are classic.
Wrap this up in your "I am a victim" personna and you have some pretty
lame stories.

get it right

Threatening to kill

you can't even tell your lies straight

Regardless of how you try and twist it, Markie, it's still
paranoia.

(3) You probably are a fairly intelligent person, but you INSIST
on LOOKING like an idiot. Your excuses as to why you can't manage to
spell check your posts are transparent, baseless and are in direct
opposition to OTHER posts you've made about what great resources you
have at your disposal. Again...More stories that your OWN words
unravel.

I don't waste resources which Is why I have suffiecent resources

Obvioulsy you do NOT have "suffiecent resources".

Much of what you need is either freeware or very inexpensive
software.

You claim to be some sort of "professional" with "pool of typists"
at your disposal, but then you claim you can't afford less than $50
worth of software.

The lie is transparent.

but here they would be wasted

No they wouldn't.

Even in a post with nothing spelled wrong my post to the FCC you can't
manage to say anything on point

The problem is you didn't! Your post was rife with spelling
errors!

The third paragraph was full of typos, and the grammatical
structure looked as though it was fired from a shotgun.

And WHAT were you trying to say about privileges before 1998?

It looked idiotic!

Your spelling HAS been getting better...Now if we can just funnel
it into more coherent sentences based on some truth, you'll be well on
your way to getting better as a human being.

you are the liar

I am...?!?!

Your spelling's not getting any better?

And like it or not, until you learn how to USE the English
language like the rest of us, you'll still look like a pathetic idiot
trying to string words together with Crazy Glue.


Steve, K4YZ