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b.b. August 6th 05 04:03 PM


K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.


And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!

Sheesh!


Oooops...forgot to mention, The last footnote in Lennie's
comments:

"Any change in the license examination regulations will primarily
affect license applicants. That does not directly affect those already
licensed and have already passed any test given under older
regulations...despite the displayed spite in a few Comments who had
worked hard to pass the morse code tests and are disturbed that
applicants in the future might not have to do the same. The Commission
is in no way responsible to hold thigs in perpetuity or to insure
feeding of emotional sustanance to those already licensed.


Steve, you might want to end a direct quote with quotation marks so
that we can separate Len's comments from your rantings.

In any event, Len is correct.

Of course his comments were laced with the usual amount of
"mythology", "tribal" and other insulting inferences that we have
become used to here.


Mythology??? Did he mention seven hostile actions?

The biggest lie being his suggestion on page 1 that he was a
potential Amateur Radio licensee.


Or being "A" NCOIC of a MARS station in Okinawa.

Did he say that "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" ?

Too bad there's not a method for filing charges of perjury on
filings.

Steve, K4YZ


You could always start proceedings to impeach Len. Do you still have
the dress?


K4YZ August 6th 05 04:05 PM


an old friend wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
I sure hope you are kidding. If this is real ..... well, it staggers the
imagination.


'fraid so, Jim...Check the header I quoted in the ECFS Comments.

I doubt it but then I suspect that He or Dave of another ProCoder
submitted that coment, simliar stuff happen in the last round's NPRM.


Uh huh...Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight .

Steve, K4YZ


b.b. August 6th 05 04:06 PM


an old friend wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
I sure hope you are kidding. If this is real ..... well, it staggers the
imagination.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


I doubt it but then I suspect that He or Dave of another ProCoder
submitted that coment, simliar stuff happen in the last round's NPRM


It looks like the work of a disgruntled PCTA Extra, such as
Bruce/WA8ULX.

That Steve would be sucked in by it's idiotic simplicity speaks
volumes.


John August 6th 05 04:19 PM



b.b. wrote:
an old friend wrote:

Jim Hampton wrote:

I sure hope you are kidding. If this is real ..... well, it staggers the
imagination.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


I doubt it but then I suspect that He or Dave of another ProCoder
submitted that coment, simliar stuff happen in the last round's NPRM



It looks like the work of a disgruntled PCTA Extra, such as
Bruce/WA8ULX.

That Steve would be sucked in by it's idiotic simplicity speaks
volumes.

It was an admitted fake. Discussed on the QRZ forum - which makes this
group seem tame.
John


an old friend August 6th 05 06:09 PM


b.b. wrote:
an old friend wrote:
Jim Hampton wrote:
I sure hope you are kidding. If this is real ..... well, it staggers the
imagination.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA


I doubt it but then I suspect that He or Dave of another ProCoder
submitted that coment, simliar stuff happen in the last round's NPRM


It looks like the work of a disgruntled PCTA Extra, such as
Bruce/WA8ULX.

That Steve would be sucked in by it's idiotic simplicity speaks
volumes.


It is called "willing suspenion of Disbelief" stevie so wants to
believe that is the general sort of person that opposes code testing
and so he jumps at it

It is sad realy but the FCC will see right though it


Dave Heil August 6th 05 08:03 PM

b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.


And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!

Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ



Yawn.


I'm with you, "bb". That was my reaction to reading Leonard's comments.

Dave K8MN


[email protected] August 6th 05 09:27 PM

From: "b.b." on Sat 6 Aug 2005 08:03

K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.

And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!

Sheesh!


Oooops...forgot to mention, The last footnote in Lennie's
comments:

"Any change in the license examination regulations will primarily
affect license applicants. That does not directly affect those already
licensed and have already passed any test given under older
regulations...despite the displayed spite in a few Comments who had
worked hard to pass the morse code tests and are disturbed that
applicants in the future might not have to do the same. The Commission
is in no way responsible to hold thigs in perpetuity or to insure
feeding of emotional sustanance to those already licensed.


Steve, you might want to end a direct quote with quotation marks so
that we can separate Len's comments from your rantings.


Stebie likes to plagiarize...and try to get away with it...:-)

But, in truth, he only STARTED the quote with quote marks...but
FAILED to end with it.

In any event, Len is correct.


Quite.

Of course his comments were laced with the usual amount of
"mythology", "tribal" and other insulting inferences that we have
become used to here.


Mythology??? Did he mention seven hostile actions?


Stebie IMPLIED his "participation" in those "seven hostile
actions" yet did NOT GET SPECIFIC as to date or location of
HIS actual participation.

The "morse myths" are the stuff of legend and abound among
the really Olde-Tymers who repeat the stories and tales of
the Older Olde-Tymers and their Mighty Morse Machines. :-)

The biggest lie being his suggestion on page 1 that he was a
potential Amateur Radio licensee.


Or being "A" NCOIC of a MARS station in Okinawa.

Did he say that "MARS IS Amateur Radio!" ?


Tsk, tsk, tsk. ANYONE is a POTENTIAL AMATEUR licensee. I've
been a COMMERCIAL licensee since 1956...and IN the HF comms
activity before AND after that year...AND working IN the
electronics industry of the southern California Aerospace
"community" from 1956 onwards...AND as a hobbyist in radio
and electronics since 1947 (non-transmitting electronics
and radio do NOT need any license).

As for ACTUAL, 24/7 HF communications, in the military, I
have that documented at:

http://kauko.hallikainen.org/history/equipment/

in three separate papers, each with illustrations from military
or personal sources.

The point in those was to show what Big Time HF Communications
WERE back a half century ago. There was NO manual or automatic
morse code mode employed in those big 24/7 communications networks
of the United States military way back then. None has been used
since for the vast majority of communications that have taken
place.

Too bad there's not a method for filing charges of perjury on
filings.

Steve, K4YZ


You could always start proceedings to impeach Len. Do you still have
the dress?


My attorney and I will see him in civil court. The Superior Court
judges need the entertainment! :-)

bar non



b.b. August 6th 05 10:33 PM


Dave Heil wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.

And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!

Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ



Yawn.


I'm with you, "bb".


But I've never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters.

That was my reaction to reading Leonard's comments.

Dave K8MN


The part Steve tried to quote looked good to me, too.


an old friend August 6th 05 10:45 PM


K4YZ wrote:
an_old_friend wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
K4YZ wrote:
Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.


realy tlaking to yourself today ole boy


And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!


of course he does a bio is part of establish ones bono fides


No, it doesn't.


sure does

Not a one of the other comments I read are so obviously
grandstanding.


again you are not empowered as a style cop


Sheesh!

Oooops...forgot to mention, The last footnote in Lennie's
comments:

"Any change in the license examination regulations will primarily
affect license applicants. That does not directly affect those already
licensed and have already passed any test given under older
regulations...despite the displayed spite in a few Comments who had
worked hard to pass the morse code tests and are disturbed that
applicants in the future might not have to do the same. The Commission
is in no way responsible to hold thigs in perpetuity or to insure
feeding of emotional sustanance to those already licensed.

Of course his comments were laced with the usual amount of
"mythology", "tribal" and other insulting inferences that we have
become used to here.

The biggest lie being his suggestion on page 1 that he was a
potential Amateur Radio licensee.

Too bad there's not a method for filing charges of perjury on
filings.


more libel stevie and more stupidity on your part


What libel?


accusing someone of perjury is libel


I quoted Lennie's comments word-for-word, Markie...Go read them
yourself.

Furthermore, Lennie has, on numerous occassions in this forum,
stated that he has no intention of getting an Amateur Radio license,
yet he says just the opposite to the FCC in his opening comments.


not as I recall the only way you say that is take his statements of
context, which is nothing new for you


So one way or the other he lied. Again.


only in your twisted mind

So again I ask you..."what libel"...?!?!


accsuing someone of perjury in a document not even under oath is libel
stevie

Even if he is lying he can't comit perjury, he has to be under oath for
that

so you remarks are false on the face of them, and therefore you have no
defense against a chrage of libel for them

Steve, K4YZ



K4YZ August 7th 05 02:14 PM


b.b. wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:
b.b. wrote:
K4YZ wrote:

K4YZ wrote:

Yes, some idiot really sent this to the FCC.

And speaking of idiots, I see Lennie didn't get past the first of
his five pages of comments without lying or mentioning his 1950's era
Army career!

Sheesh!

Steve, K4YZ


Yawn.


I'm with you, "bb".


But I've never worked out of band Frenchmen on 6 meters.


No...you just bootleggted from a UN-controlled zone without proper
authority.

What Dave did was legal...What YOU did wasn't.

Steve, K4YZ



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