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K4YZ wrote: an old friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: b.b. wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Indeed If truely stuck and needing help but with a big batery Id just send ...---...--- and hope for the best... Those who heard this transmission would no doubt think that things were so so. indeed proving the devotion of the Procoders to the aiding of others Whoa right there, Mark...... (1) Dave was, again, correct. What you typed was "SOSO" break (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? your bluff is called carry out your threats or drop em make the call to mental or shreff or FBI, call the marines if you like put up or shut up (3) As for "procoders" aiding others, I have "elmered" and/or proctored tests for dozens of folks and helped who-knows-how-many folks ON the radio...regardless of thier class of license. You've "helped"...how many...?!?! Steve, K4YZ |
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(2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? 73 de Jim, N2EY |
wrote: K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? becuase he is a Coward and a Bully 73 de Jim, N2EY |
wrote in message oups.com... K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? Good answer, Jim! "Way back when" the Saturday Evening Post (or maybe Colliers) had a periodic reader-contribution column called "The Perfect Squelch". With this, you'd have won the $50.00 prize offered. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? Good answer, Jim! "Way back when" the Saturday Evening Post (or maybe Colliers) had a perio= dic reader-contribution column called "The Perfect Squelch". With this, you'= d have won the $50.00 prize offered. if it works and shut's stevie rants down I'll pay you the 50$ less 5$ Shipping and handling of course any one what to bet on wether it will squech Stevie? =20 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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K4YZ wrote: an_old_friend wrote: cuting to the point I guess you missed the part where the FCC said it was dismissing all those other petitions and was focusing on the Code issue at the moment. No I read it clearly and was of course addressing the cleaning up of details when the code test is riped out the of the regs but then you are not bothhered by things like facts As perhaps one of the few members of that class making comments it is a subject near and dear to my heart. Also guess you haven't been paying attention to some of the demographics of the respondents. You are far and away from being "...one of the few...", Mark... without runing all of them I saw few techs mostly generals and extras (more than a thousand) no I can't tell It is also a question vital to the future of the ARS, and thus in some degree the safety and future of the USA. Let's see if Lennie ahs the same Field Day with THAT as he does anytime any of the REST of us suggest even the remotest degree of importance or relevance of the Amateur Radio Service... Auf Anglish Bitte? I believe the privileges should be what was known as Before the 1998 NPRM as Tech plus, this si because I have frankly observed that many new Techs tend to get struck on FM repeaters, a fine mode but hard to break out of, and being hard to break out tends to depress the chances that they will, ( I refer the FCC to prices on allmode rigs with VHF frequencies compared to FM rigs) In addition to issues of cost with the propagation of VHF there are many times that there is no one out there that a novice operator can find and work. cuting pointless remarks From personal experience...(SNIP) Goat sacrifice counts here? I'll leave your libelous and defamitory statement for all to see again as "proof" of your respect for the faiths of others I can tell you that this is a hard thing to do, and thus tends to imped the progress of the Techs and separate them from the rest of the ARS. cuting drivel This separation is not god for the ARS or it abilities to serve in the public interest . ctuing more gratouious insults |
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Dave Heil wrote: b.b. wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: My own comments To the persons reading comments for the FCC greetings, With regard to main body of the NPRM I am a favor of dropping all code tests at once, however there are a few points concerning related matters I wish to discuss and respect insist that FCC made something on these points clear when the R&O is issued. The privileges of the entry class, Technician, after this action are frankly unclear to me. As perhaps one of the few members of that class making comments it is a subject near and dear to my heart. It is also a question vital to the future of the ARS, and thus in some degree the safety and future of the USA. I believe the privileges should be what was known as Before the 1998 NPRM as Tech plus, this si because I have frankly observed that many new Techs tend to get struck on FM repeaters, a fine mode but hard to break out of, and being hard to break out tends to depress the chances that they will, ( I refer the FCC to prices on allmode rigs with VHF frequencies compared to FM rigs) In addition to issues of cost with the propagation of VHF there are many times that there is no one out there that a novice operator can find and work. From personal experience, I can tell you that this is a hard thing to do, and thus tends to imped the progress of the Techs and separate them from the rest of the ARS. This separation is not god for the ARS or it abilities to serve in the public interest . Where's that pool of typists when you really need it? Dave K8MN Dave, are you volunteering for 702 duty? To assist Mark? No way. He had a pool of trained typists at his beck and call and has turned down a job paying nearly a quarter million per year. I'd have thought that he'd have run his comments through his staff. Dave K8MN Maybe he'll just assign you to his QSL buro staff. You can handle the Out-Of-Band QSO's. Best of Luck. |
Dave Heil wrote: Those who heard this transmission would no doubt think that things were so so. Dave K8MN That just might match your amateur ethics (so so). Would you respond to such a signal or not? |
b.b. wrote: wrote: K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? 73 de Jim, N2EY Now Jim/N2EY has a problem "wasting time" with handicapped people. No Jim is making a fair point, for once pointing Stevie faults Ie Since Stevie claims my posts are not worth responding Jim askss why he does. That is a fair question and I conmend him for it Now if Stevie would just have the courage to answer or follow through |
an_old_friend wrote: b.b. wrote: wrote: K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? 73 de Jim, N2EY Now Jim/N2EY has a problem "wasting time" with handicapped people. No Jim is making a fair point, for once pointing Stevie faults Ie Since Stevie claims my posts are not worth responding Jim askss why he does. That is a fair question and I conmend him for it Now if Stevie would just have the courage to answer or follow through Silence is an answer |
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"an old friend" wrote I would responding asking if they knew what freequncy they were operating on and wether their govt allowed that band, Id offer to answer what frequency they were on if they did not know stuff like that During a radiosport event like CQWWDX or ARRL DX I'm likely to work upwards of 300-400 band-countries in a 48-hour period. Since I have no idea what each country allows band-by-band, I'd need to make 300-400 inquiries. Do you think I'd win the contest? DAH DIT DIDIDIT DAH de K0HB |
an old friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: b.b. wrote: wrote: K4YZ wrote: (2) You've already demonstrated that you WON'T help yourself despite having acknowledged that numerous resources are at your disposal and within your capabilites to use and implement. So why would Dave (or anyone else, for that matter..??) waste any time on you for anything? Good question, Steve! Why do you? 73 de Jim, N2EY Now Jim/N2EY has a problem "wasting time" with handicapped people. No Jim is making a fair point, for once pointing Stevie faults Ie Since Stevie claims my posts are not worth responding Jim askss why he does. That is a fair question and I conmend him for it Now if Stevie would just have the courage to answer or follow through Silence is an answer I tend to agree, the only problem becomes exactly what does that answer mean? It's pretty clear to me what it means. In this case it could mean he is lying and thinks it is imperitve that I be answered (and why he would think becomes an open question) Or it could mean he is lying when hesays he can't understand or it could mean... That he thinks *you* are lying... Or that he really can't understand... Or that there's no real point in answering It would be nice if Stevie had caurage to say what he means instead of leting his silence answer for him Seems pretty clear that Steve is taking his own advice. Which I will do, too. |
K=D8HB wrote: "an old friend" wrote I would responding asking if they knew what freequncy they were operating on and wether their govt allowed that band, Id offer to answer what frequency they were on if they did not know stuff like that During a radiosport event like CQWWDX or ARRL DX I'm likely to work upwar= ds of 300-400 band-countries in a 48-hour period. Since I have no idea what ea= ch country allows band-by-band, I'd need to make 300-400 inquiries. Do you = think I'd win the contest? DAH DIT DIDIDIT DAH de K0HB Hans, if you heard "O SOS OSO SOS..." transmitted during the CQWW, would you take a moment to investigate? |
Captain Obvious asked: Hans, if you heard "O SOS OSO SOS..." transmitted during the CQWW, would you take a moment to investigate? If it were a possible new mult. titty tum tum titty de K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: Captain Obvious asked: Hans, if you heard "O SOS OSO SOS..." transmitted during the CQWW, would you take a moment to investigate? If it were a possible new mult. titty tum tum titty de K0HB IndeedSuch campassionate ops exist on CW I would try to answer something that sounded like SOS or If I hread it on my Shortwave receiever try and someoe that could answer it or failing that Fire up the HF freqs on My Ft 847 sat rigs and answer it myself or call for other staions to tune and help IF I heard a CW Sos or something like Id try and help even as much as I detest the mode itself |
"an_old_friend" wrote IndeedSuch campassionate ops exist on CW Captain Obvious, meet Captain Satire-Immune. Mark, I spent years and years at sea standing radio watches in view of a clock with the 15-18 minute and 45-48 minute positions outlined in red. I know, first hand, the gut-tightening sound of a real SOS. You may have seen one portrayed in a movie, so go play make-believe. de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote IndeedSuch campassionate ops exist on CW Captain Obvious, meet Captain Satire-Immune. Mark, I spent years and years at sea standing radio watches in view of a = clock with the 15-18 minute and 45-48 minute positions outlined in red. I know= , first hand, the gut-tightening sound of a real SOS. You may have seen one port= rayed in a movie, so go play make-believe. Obviously time has made you Jaded Your remark you chase down an SOs if it were a new multiplier shows your comapassion I would try to answer something that sounded like SOS or If I hread it on my Shortwave receiever try and someoe that could answer it or failing that Fire up the HF freqs on My Ft 847 sat rigs and answer it myself or call for other staions to tune and help I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB =20 de Hans, K0HB |
"an_old_friend" wrote show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB. And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing satire like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my posts. I can't guarantee they won't distress you. I don't realy care what you knew some time ago Likewise. Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB. No you have insulted me in other ways. I certainly have never promised you that you would only be insulted in the same manner as you insult me And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing s= atire like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my po= sts. I can't guarantee they won't distress you. Well to qualify for satire it does need to be funny But I will read what I choose wether I have your leave or not. I don't realy care what you knew some time ago Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling =20 Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB. No you have insulted me in other ways. I certainly have never promised you that you would only be insulted in the same manner as you insult me And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing s= atire like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my po= sts. I can't guarantee they won't distress you. Well to qualify for satire it does need to be funny But I will read what I choose wether I have your leave or not. I don't realy care what you knew some time ago Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling =20 Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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KØHB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB. No you have insulted me in other ways. I certainly have never promised you that you would only be insulted in the same manner as you insult me And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing satire like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my posts. I can't guarantee they won't distress you. Well to qualify for satire it does need to be funny But I will read what I choose wether I have your leave or not. I don't realy care what you knew some time ago Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: cut Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well=20 =20 Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: KØHB wrote: cut Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Oh no, Mark, I think that the very idea of you responding to an SOS sent in morse, is a good subject of a joke. I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot on the earth would make a good subject for a joke. I would also find your lifetime of professional victimhood a good subject for a joke. Dave K8MN |
"an_old_friend" wrote well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Where did I mention a "joke"? Where did I mention "funny"? I mentioned "satire". Satire isn't often "funny". I was holding Brians SOS question up to ridicule (because it was ridiculous). For that you call me a son-of-a-bitch? Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Where did I mention a "joke"? Where did I mention "funny"? I mentioned "satire". Satire isn't often "funny". I was holding Brians = SOS question up to ridicule (because it was ridiculous). For that you call = me a son-of-a-bitch? obviously =20 Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday ...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling "adyday". Indeed If truely stuck and needing help but with a big batery Id just send ...---...--- and hope for the best at interavals as long that battery would still make sparks but Dave and prehaps a good many other MMM would not help me Why not admit that you'd have no idea whether anyone was coming with assistance since you couldn't read the response? It might help if you mixed your distress call with information about your estimated position. Then you and your big battery could hope for the best. Dave K8MN |
an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: For that you call me a son-of-a-bitch? =20 obviously Speaks volumes! P L O N K |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday ...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling "adyday". BUZZZ well that is you making up facts not in eveidence , another Steviesm rendered even more ineffective by being very very late Indeed If truely stuck and needing help but with a big batery Id just send ...---...--- and hope for the best at interavals as long that battery would still make sparks but Dave and prehaps a good many other MMM would not help me Why not admit that you'd have no idea whether anyone was coming with assistance since you couldn't read the response? It might help if you mixed your distress call with information about your estimated position. Then you and your big battery could hope for the best. but as you say I can't use morse code so obviously I can't mix in my position nor receive, therefore my Only Hope is RDF, but obviously Not from MMM like you. only folks that Might try and help me are the NoCoders which is ofc ourse a poor coment on the users of the Morse Code, and the proponents of continued use and testing for same Unlike you If I heard such a signal, (where would such a spark gap signal end up BTW?) I world try to find the sender some help, or to have him arested if this was a bad joke, ether way, round here I'd call the Coasties, if I could not find a ham to help me, and heard such a signal. I know they have RDF gear. I saw some of it at the open house this spring Dave K8MN |
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Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday ...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling "adyday". BUZZZ well that is you making up facts not in eveidence , another Steviesm Take a look at your own words above. The fact is very much in evidence. rendered even more ineffective by being very very late Is there a time limit on response times to posts, Colonel? Indeed If truely stuck and needing help but with a big batery Id just send ...---...--- and hope for the best at interavals as long that battery would still make sparks but Dave and prehaps a good many other MMM would not help me Why not admit that you'd have no idea whether anyone was coming with assistance since you couldn't read the response? It might help if you mixed your distress call with information about your estimated position. Then you and your big battery could hope for the best. but as you say I can't use morse code so obviously I can't mix in my position nor receive, therefore my Only Hope is RDF, but obviously Not from MMM like you. only folks that Might try and help me are the NoCoders Sorry, Mark, I doubt you'll find any help there. You'll just be stuck with some fellows who ask, "Wonder what that funny noise is"? which is ofc ourse a poor coment on the users of the Morse Code, and the proponents of continued use and testing for same I agree, you've made a poor comment. Unlike you If I heard such a signal, (where would such a spark gap signal end up BTW?) I world try to find the sender some help, or to have him arested if this was a bad joke, ether way, round here I'd call the Coasties, if I could not find a ham to help me, and heard such a signal. I know they have RDF gear. I saw some of it at the open house this spring Roger. Out. Dave K8MN |
Dave Heil wrote: In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. Dave K8MN Smug Dave, I don't recall Mark ever working out-of-band Frenchmen on 6M. So far I think he's got you beat as an A1 Op. |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: cut Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Oh no, Mark, I think that the very idea of you responding to an SOS sent in morse, is a good subject of a joke. I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot on the earth would make a good subject for a joke. If find your receipt of the "A1 Operator Award" laughable. It must have been a long, long time ago. |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: K=D8HB wrote: cut Likewise. more of your cuting context I don't realy care what you knew some time ago, your remarks TODAY show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB And so that you think SOS signals are a subject for jokes , then you are sick as well as unfeeling In addition to coming across as a complete twit, Mark, you act like one afflicted with perpetual PMS. well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Oh no, Mark, I think that the very idea of you responding to an SOS sent in morse, is a good subject of a joke. I think your expounding at length on my HF operations from any DX spot on the earth would make a good subject for a joke. I find your receipt of the "A1 Operator Award" laughable. It must have been a long, long time ago. |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote show you as a pretty unfeeling SoB So far I haven't insulted you with profane names like SoB. And if your unfortunate medical condition prevents you from recognizing s= atire like my "mult" remarks, perhaps it would be best if you didn't read my po= sts. I can't guarantee they won't distress you. SATIRE =3D JOKE I don't realy care what you knew some time ago =20 Likewise. =20 Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote IndeedSuch campassionate ops exist on CW Captain Obvious, meet Captain Satire-Immune. Mark, I spent years and years at sea standing radio watches in view of a = clock with the 15-18 minute and 45-48 minute positions outlined in red. I know= , first hand, the gut-tightening sound of a real SOS. You may have seen one port= rayed in a movie, so go play make-believe. de Hans, K0HB If you are experienced as you claim, then you would have known how to answer the question. As it is, you failed, even though the FCC does not require you to respond to "OSOSOSOS..." or to even operate a radio at all. Your answer falls into the category, "Poor Amateur Practice." |
K=D8HB wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote well if think that SOS is good subject for a joke well Where did I mention a "joke"? Where did I mention "funny"? Satire. Satire is humor. I mentioned "satire". Satire isn't often "funny". You aren't funny. You had no business standing watches listening for "SOS." I was holding Brians SOS question up to ridicule (because it was ridiculous). For that you call = me a son-of-a-bitch? =20 Beep beep de Hans, K0HB What about an SOS is ridiculous? |
Dave Heil wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wonder what they do with transmision "ayday...ayday ...ayday...b9wdy...lling...ayday" the dots being static, something liek sorry ole boy we migh help you when you fix your radio The first thing I'd notice is that there were no static dots in front of the first "ayday". I'd thus assume that it was you, actually yelling "adyday". Smug Dave still trying to be funny abaout an SOS/Mayday. Indeed If truely stuck and needing help but with a big batery Id just send ...---...--- and hope for the best at interavals as long that battery would still make sparks but Dave and prehaps a good many other MMM would not help me Why not admit that you'd have no idea whether anyone was coming with assistance since you couldn't read the response? It might help if you mixed your distress call with information about your estimated position. Then you and your big battery could hope for the best. Dave K8MN Not if you were on the receiving end. You'd be on the other end of the hallway with a bag of potato chips. |
wrote SATIRE = JOKE Your dictionary is farkled. My Funk & Wagnalls says "ridicule, irony, sarcasm", with nary a reference to "joke" or "humor". Beep beep de Hans, K0HB |
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