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wrote An analogy: Suppose there are a group of hams who regularly QSO on VHF or UHF FM. Although they use different rigs, all have signals with "good audio" - clean, crisp, clear, easy to listen to and understand. Then a newcomer shows up, with a signal that has really poor audio. Muffled, distorted, very unclear. Not weak, off-frequency or over-deviating, just not clear. Varies from 'requires a careful listen' to 'completely impossible to understand'. Fortunately it is discovered that the problem lies in the microphone being used by the newcomer. It's the original that came with the rig, which is no longer made. Nothing wrong with the rig itself, it's the mike which is the problem. Your analogy is broken, Jim. The newcomers microphone is analogous to Marks computer keyboard, which works just fine. As you well know (unless you just fell off the turnip truck) the reason for Marks difficult-(sometimes impossible)-to-read posts is a medical condition. Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" 73, de Hans, K0HB |
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: I like it when the girl plays hard to get, then acquiesces in the end, been movies made about that yanno!!! tongue-in-cheek John ///////////////////////////////////////////// On Yeah...kinda like John's past "accomplishments". The Heroine in question jots down his phone number, says she will call him... then tosses John's TX number in the nearest dumpster. The prettier they are, the greater the rejection, eh, John? |
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wrote An analogy: Suppose there are a group of hams who regularly QSO on VHF or UHF FM. Although they use different rigs, all have signals with "good audio" - clean, crisp, clear, easy to listen to and understand. Then a newcomer shows up, with a signal that has really poor audio. Muffled, distorted, very unclear. Not weak, off-frequency or over-deviating, just not clear. Varies from 'requires a careful listen' to 'completely impossible to understand'. Fortunately it is discovered that the problem lies in the microphone being used by the newcomer. It's the original that came with the rig, which is no longer made. Nothing wrong with the rig itself, it's the mike which is the problem. Your analogy is broken, Jim. Not at all, Hans. You snipped off the rest of the analogy, in which it is revealed that although there is a way to fix or at least improve the situation, the newcomer refuses to do anyhting about it. That's the central issue: the *refusal* to use an available tool to fix or at least improve a problem. The newcomers microphone is analogous to Marks computer keyboard, which works just fine. As you well know (unless you just fell off the turnip truck) the reason for Marks difficult-(sometimes impossible)-to-read posts is a medical condition. Allegedly. Mark has claimed a lot of things in the past that simply did not add up. Like claims of a 248 IQ... Perhaps his condition is real, perhaps it isn't. That's not the issue at all - the issue is what he does about it. He says the use of a spellchecker would slow him down too much and that we're not worth the effort. Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. How about a person with a speech problem who refuses to go to speech therapy, even though the cost is low and improvement is clearly possible? Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" Who is "we"?=20 73 de Jim, N2EY |
an old friend wrote: K4YZ wrote: an old friend wrote: wrote: Dee Flint wrote: I agree 100% with Dee's ideas expressed above. If something is worth writing, it's worth writing clearly. When are you going to start writng clearly yourself? BBBWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! ! ! ! ! You're such a card, Markie! Always the comedian! Not realy but you can tell yourself that lie Yes, REALLY! It's no lie. You write like a 3rd grader then have the temerity to redress others on "writing clearly"....! Jim wanders on and on to the point no one is quite sure what his point is I have absolutely NO problem following what Jim writes...Nor do I have a problem following Hans, Dee, Kim, Lennie, Brain, John, Cecil, nor almost anyone else here. Toiddie can be a bit challenging. Every once in a while he becomes lucid, then slides right back into his profane rants. You, on the otherhand, not only intersperse a small share of profanity, but your spelling sucks and more often than not your "sentences" are fractured and open-ended. This doesn't mean we're all Shakespeares. It does mean we can at least do what we can to use correct spelling, grammar, punctuation and capitalization. Ok He says "ok", but my money's on "But I won't do a darned thing about it". which is of course the same thing For once we agree, but not for the same reasons...... An analogy: Suppose there are a group of hams who regularly QSO on VHF or UHF FM. Although they use different rigs, all have signals with "good audio" - clean, crisp, clear, easy to listen to and understand. Then a newcomer shows up, with a signal that has really poor audio. Muffled, distorted, very unclear. Not weak, off-frequency or over-deviating, just not clear. Varies from 'requires a careful listen' to 'completely impossible to understand'. Fortunately it is discovered that the problem lies in the microphone being used by the newcomer. It's the original that came with the rig, which is no longer made. Nothing wrong with the rig itself, it's the mike which is the problem. But the newcomer refuses to replace the microphone. Says it's too much trouble, costs too much money, and a new mike wouldn't be as easy to use as the old one. Plus he doesn't think his audio is all that bad in the first place. Newcomer finally says that if the group can't understand him, it's *their* problem, not his, and he shouldn't be expected to spend money, time and effort to get a new microphone for his rig. How should the group respond? One you you try analogy that is valid It's absolutely valid. nope it isn't Sure it is. I am sure that YOU would like to think otherwise, most likely because you no dobut sound just as bad in person as you do on a keyboard and Jim's tale hit's close-to-home. you could also be man enough to say what you mean Seem's pretty straight forward to me. For example to addmto your analogy "addmto"...?!?! That's not even close to being a "word". It is only those that disgree with the newcomers views that find him so impossible to understand I don't always agree with Jim and it made perfect sence to me. It it also truns out not to be his mike but his voice that has problem "turns" and of course tell get off the air till you can fix your voice and of course Ham operators are so accepting Sure they are...Unless you're blatantly lying or deceiving. Not lying or decieving...(SNIP) Sure you are. You've already admitted it. Why stop now? (UNSNIP)...you are lying and decieving in claiming to know the medcial state of a person you have never met Nope. You know this since you are an LPN Nope. I know it from YOUR words. Unless you've been (dare I say it?) lying? Steve, K4YZ |
"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... wrote If something is worth writing, it's worth writing clearly. Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. 73, de Hans, K0HB Doesn't apply. The case at hand doesn't meet the stated criteria of first and last letters in the right place and doesn't meet the criteria of containing the right letters. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"KØHB" wrote in message nk.net... wrote An analogy: Suppose there are a group of hams who regularly QSO on VHF or UHF FM. Although they use different rigs, all have signals with "good audio" - clean, crisp, clear, easy to listen to and understand. Then a newcomer shows up, with a signal that has really poor audio. Muffled, distorted, very unclear. Not weak, off-frequency or over-deviating, just not clear. Varies from 'requires a careful listen' to 'completely impossible to understand'. Fortunately it is discovered that the problem lies in the microphone being used by the newcomer. It's the original that came with the rig, which is no longer made. Nothing wrong with the rig itself, it's the mike which is the problem. Your analogy is broken, Jim. The newcomers microphone is analogous to Marks computer keyboard, which works just fine. As you well know (unless you just fell off the turnip truck) the reason for Marks difficult-(sometimes impossible)-to-read posts is a medical condition. Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" 73, de Hans, K0HB We have exactly that case locally. And I've already described how the group responds and how the individual deals with the problem. It's a two way street. The individual is responsible for taking the steps necessary to minimize the problem and the group accepts that. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Digital" wrote The prettier they are, the greater the rejection, eh, John? No matter how pretty they are, some other guy is sick of their crap. |
wrote That's the central issue: the *refusal* to use an available tool to fix or at least improve a problem. Aha! The "central issue"! He refuses to do what *you* think he ought to do. Sunnuvagun! 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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In the real world, it is a higher power which runs the show, I am but one actor on this great stage. I just follow anothers' script, fortunately, I am given control over myself. I can choose to view this as a great challenge and do my best to meet ever changing courses in the flow of the great stream of life, or give up--I march ahead. The world is for the living, but I allow myself to grieve for those no longer with us... and it ain't over till I say it's over. Nice try... John On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:01:33 -0500, Digital wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Dee: I like it when the girl plays hard to get, then acquiesces in the end, been movies made about that yanno!!! tongue-in-cheek John ///////////////////////////////////////////// On Yeah...kinda like John's past "accomplishments". The Heroine in question jots down his phone number, says she will call him... then tosses John's TX number in the nearest dumpster. The prettier they are, the greater the rejection, eh, John? |
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True, how very true... however, you neglected to mention those times when some other girl is "sick of our crap!" grin John On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:22:55 +0000, KØHB wrote: "Digital" wrote The prettier they are, the greater the rejection, eh, John? No matter how pretty they are, some other guy is sick of their crap. |
Jim your posts could be made A Lot easier to read, by simply geting to
your point in staed of going and and on about event starting in mnay case before i was born, and that you have related a number of times Why don't you post more clearly? simply becuase it does not suit YOUR style and wishes wrote: K=D8HB wrote: wrote An analogy: Suppose there are a group of hams who regularly QSO on VHF or UHF FM. Although they use different rigs, all have signals with "good audio" - clean, crisp, clear, easy to listen to and understand. Then a newcomer shows up, with a signal that has really poor audio. Muffled, distorted, very unclear. Not weak, off-frequency or over-deviating, just not clear. Varies from 'requires a careful listen' to 'completely impossible to understand'. Fortunately it is discovered that the problem lies in the microphone being used by the newcomer. It's the original that came with the rig, which is no longer made. Nothing wrong with the rig itself, it's the mike which is the problem. Your analogy is broken, Jim. Not at all, Hans. You snipped off the rest of the analogy, in which it is revealed that although there is a way to fix or at least improve the situation, the newcomer refuses to do anyhting about it. That's the central issue: the *refusal* to use an available tool to fix or at least improve a problem. The newcomers microphone is analogous to Marks computer keyboard, which works just fine. As you well know (unless you just fell off the turnip truck) the reason for Marks difficult-(sometimes impossible)-to-read posts is a medical condition. Allegedly. Mark has claimed a lot of things in the past that simply did not add up. Like claims of a 248 IQ... proving you don't know much about medical matters Perhaps his condition is real, perhaps it isn't. That's not the issue at all - the issue is what he does about it. He says the use of a spellchecker would slow him down too much and that we're not worth the effort. it would at least doueblt the amount of Time and the medium is not worth the effort. If you want to take saying that Medium is not worth the effort personaly you can of course I am not convinced the medium is worth the time I am spending Now let alone more Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. How about a person with a speech problem who refuses to go to speech therapy, even though the cost is low and improvement is clearly possible? and Who are you know what is possible. Stevie at least has some exposure to medical matter although he clearly is off target Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" =20 Who is "we"?=20 who is we indeed? =20 73 de Jim, N2EY |
wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: cut dis dat Len, we could apply the null hypothesis. It could have been a disgruntled NCTA trying to make the PCTA look bad. But there's two problems with that hypothesis: sorry about mssing this one earlier a. The NCTA have nothing to be disgruntled about except a quarter century of arbitrary and unnecessary government regulation, and and right Now I can't see how NCTA can be disgruntled the only bothering me now is chopping at the bit wiating for it to be over Even my non Ham freinds have noticed the improvement in my often somewhat dower expression and dared asked me to explain that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. way too late but I realy don't care, even at the club meeting with a fair number of code supporter there were gracious enough to ask me what I thought of NPRM, after first sugest ing everyone brace themsleves for my response which a loud "YES, Bout damn time!!" b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? |
K=D8HB wrote: wrote That's the central issue: the *refusal* to use an available tool to fix or at least improve a problem. Aha! The "central issue"! He refuses to do what *you* think he ought to= do. He refuses to do something that would greatly help others understand him. He also says it's *their* problem, not his. He's told me what *I* should do, too. Sunnuvagun! I've not said Mark is lazy, or a liar, or a bad person, etc. My response is simply to not read much of what he writes. Sonofagun! 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: cut dis dat Len, we could apply the null hypothesis. It could have been a disgruntled NCTA trying to make the PCTA look bad. But there's two problems with that hypothesis: sorry about mssing this one earlier You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. a. The NCTA have nothing to be disgruntled about except a quarter century of arbitrary and unnecessary government regulation, and and right Now I can't see how NCTA can be disgruntled the only bothering me now is chopping at the bit wiating for it to be over Even my non Ham freinds have noticed the improvement in my often somewhat dower expression and dared asked me to explain that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. way too late but I realy don't care, even at the club meeting with a fair number of code supporter there were gracious enough to ask me what I thought of NPRM, after first sugest ing everyone brace themsleves for my response which a loud "YES, Bout damn time!!" Was it tough getting the tar and feathers off? ;^) b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? Compassionate No-Codism? I'm good with that. |
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an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: cut dis dat Len, we could apply the null hypothesis. It could have been a disgruntled NCTA trying to make the PCTA look bad. But there's two problems with that hypothesis: sorry about mssing this one earlier You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. Some of us DO but, when messaging to unbalanced, unfair folks, it is rather difficult... :-) a. The NCTA have nothing to be disgruntled about except a quarter century of arbitrary and unnecessary government regulation, and and right Now I can't see how NCTA can be disgruntled the only bothering me now is chopping at the bit wiating for it to be over Even my non Ham freinds have noticed the improvement in my often somewhat dower expression and dared asked me to explain that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. [only the NCTA are allowed to gloat... :-) ] way too late but I realy don't care, even at the club meeting with a fair number of code supporter there were gracious enough to ask me what I thought of NPRM, after first sugest ing everyone brace themsleves for my response which a loud "YES, Bout damn time!!" Was it tough getting the tar and feathers off? ;^) :-) b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? Compassionate No-Codism? I'm good with that. Heh heh. Expect the ARRL to get in on the act, maybe the "Pro-coder Compassion Supporter (or Truss?) Fund" or some title like that... On the ARRL's "poll" for 5 Aug 05 and an opinion on NPRM 05-143, of the 9,484 votes cast: 48.5% said it was a fine idea, 47.1% sait it was a terrible idea, and 4.4% had no particular opinion either way. Nah...let's just pick up the 2x4s and beat them over the head with the issue...just like they used to do it to no-coders in the last 50 years or so. I think they deserve it... :-) two for |
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an_old_friend wrote: Jim your posts could be made A Lot easier to read, by simply geting to your point in staed of going and and on about event starting in mnay case before i was born, and that you have related a number of times "getting" "instead" "many" Why don't you post more clearly? His posts are crystal clear to anyone with more than a fifth grade education. simply becuase it does not suit YOUR style and wishes So...it's your "suggestion" that Jim lobotomize himself just so YOU can understand him a bit better...?!?! Somehow I don't see that happening! wrote: K=D8HB wrote: wrote Allegedly. Mark has claimed a lot of things in the past that simply did not add up. Like claims of a 248 IQ... proving you don't know much about medical matters Where in that did Jim state ANYthing that required any "knowledge" about medical matters...?!?! You DID state that you have an IQ of 248. Perhaps his condition is real, perhaps it isn't. That's not the issue at all - the issue is what he does about it. He says the use of a spellchecker would slow him down too much and that we're not worth the effort. it would at least doueblt the amount of Time and the medium is not worth the effort. If you want to take saying that Medium is not worth the effort personaly you can of course "doueblt"...I'm not even going to guess what that was supposed to be... "personally" And what were you trying to say, anyway..?!?! Again, more non-sensical jibberish masquerading as "English".... I am not convinced the medium is worth the time I am spending Now let alone more Huh...?!?! What...?!?! Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. How about a person with a speech problem who refuses to go to speech therapy, even though the cost is low and improvement is clearly possible? and Who are you know what is possible. Stevie at least has some exposure to medical matter although he clearly is off target Nope. Got you nailed to the wall, Markie. Not even Ray Charles could miss you! Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" Who is "we"? who is we indeed? You just don't get it, Markie... Steve, K4YZ |
KY4Z wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Jim your posts could be made A Lot easier to read, by simply geting to your point in staed of going and and on about event starting in mnay case before i was born, and that you have related a number of times "getting" "instead" "many" Why don't you post more clearly? His posts are crystal clear to anyone with more than a fifth grade education. if the reader can stay awake long enough simply becuase it does not suit YOUR style and wishes So...it's your "suggestion" that Jim lobotomize himself just so YOU can understand him a bit better...?!?! Not all, More Stevie lie. I sugfested he could get to the point, or at least have one Somehow I don't see that happening! wrote: K=D8HB wrote: wrote Allegedly. Mark has claimed a lot of things in the past that simply did not add up. Like claims of a 248 IQ... proving you don't know much about medical matters Where in that did Jim state ANYthing that required any "knowledge" about medical matters...?!?! in claiming that he can test someone IQ over the net You DID state that you have an IQ of 248. Perhaps his condition is real, perhaps it isn't. That's not the issue at all - the issue is what he does about it. He says the use of a spellchecker would slow him down too much and that we're not worth the effort. it would at least doueblt the amount of Time and the medium is not worth the effort. If you want to take saying that Medium is not worth the effort personaly you can of course "doueblt"...I'm not even going to guess what that was supposed to be... then don't bother "personally" And what were you trying to say, anyway..?!?! Again, more non-sensical jibberish masquerading as "English".... I am not convinced the medium is worth the time I am spending Now let alone more Huh...?!?! What...?!?! Give your newcomer a medical problem (speech impediment?) and rewrite the story. How about a person with a speech problem who refuses to go to speech therapy, even though the cost is low and improvement is clearly possible? and Who are you know what is possible. Stevie at least has some exposure to medical matter although he clearly is off target Nope. Got you nailed to the wall, Markie. More lies Where is your Action? Not even Ray Charles could miss you! Then we'll answer your question "How should the group respond?" Who is "we"? who is we indeed? =20 You just don't get it, Markie... =20 Steve, KY4Z |
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wrote: From: on Tues 16 Aug 2005 16:33 wrote: All you EXTRA MORSEMEN ought to be PROUD of a fellow EXTRA, N9KKY, David G. Brink, now listed under WT Docket 05-235 in the ECFS as received on 8 August 2005 and added by the FCC on 15 August 2005. A one-page scrawled hand-printed and very shaky written name signature dated (by the sender) as 31 July 2005, a Sunday. No doubt that Sunday featured some slightly excessive imbibing prior to scrawling this magnificent missive. Len, we could apply the null hypothesis. It could have been a disgruntled NCTA trying to make the PCTA look bad. But there's two problems with that hypothesis: a. The NCTA have nothing to be disgruntled about except a quarter century of arbitrary and unnecessary government regulation, and b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. Heh heh heh...I agree on both counts! Quod erat demonstrandum. end nul In order to be fair and balanced, we looked at each side of the issue. Unfortunately, the rationale does not go with the PCTAs. I like this compassionate no-codism when applied to faith-based modes. |
From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:37
wrote: From: on Aug 18, 3:33 pm an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. Some of us DO but, when messaging to unbalanced, unfair folks, it is rather difficult... :-) Difficult, but not insurmountable. Remember, compassionate no-codism serves both faith-based modes as well as all of the other modes. I sort of draw the line at the cretin who shouts, "God is for morse code testing and morse code!!!" that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. [only the NCTA are allowed to gloat... :-) ] Openly. Feels rather good. Time to turn things around now and let all the coders have it as those smug, arrogant, "superior" types have acted for the half century I've observed them. :-) b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? Compassionate No-Codism? I'm good with that. Heh heh. Expect the ARRL to get in on the act, maybe the "Pro-coder Compassion Supporter (or Truss?) Fund" or some title like that... With Carl in the ARRL, all things are possible. Carl ANDERSON? Yeah, right, just like Brain Kallie to make nastynoises. :-) On the ARRL's "poll" for 5 Aug 05 and an opinion on NPRM 05-143, of the 9,484 votes cast: 48.5% said it was a fine idea, 47.1% said it was a terrible idea, and 4.4% had no particular opinion either way. Looks like a concensus. Those numbers were flipped when we were told that we had to keep the code. [whut yu mean "we," white man?] [Tonto not hear dat...] NCTA super-extras like Jimmie Noserve will come out with the standard disclaimer that the website poll is "not scientific." They are so forking predictable that one doesn't have to think twice about what kind of rationalizations they write. Nah...let's just pick up the 2x4s and beat them over the head with the issue...just like they used to do it to no-coders in the last 50 years or so. I think they deserve it... :-) Please, no. Remember that compassionate no-codism is tolerant of faith-based modes. Geez...TUFF requirement! Not even a little 1x1 piece of oak? Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... There's "compassion" on the prarie, the badlands, and the great West for horses that can't make it. A gun or a knife solves their problems, provides time-tested "compassion." So it is with the coders. They can't make it without that TEST...so we should "do the right thing" and end their suffering. I'll have to consult with Pastor Midtlyng on that and get back to you... bye bye |
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I don't think I would take a key into heaven, those harp playing angels would damn yer butt to hell for sure.... beep-beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep! John On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 15:05:14 -0700, LenAnderson wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:37 wrote: From: on Aug 18, 3:33 pm an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. Some of us DO but, when messaging to unbalanced, unfair folks, it is rather difficult... :-) Difficult, but not insurmountable. Remember, compassionate no-codism serves both faith-based modes as well as all of the other modes. I sort of draw the line at the cretin who shouts, "God is for morse code testing and morse code!!!" that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. [only the NCTA are allowed to gloat... :-) ] Openly. Feels rather good. Time to turn things around now and let all the coders have it as those smug, arrogant, "superior" types have acted for the half century I've observed them. :-) b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? Compassionate No-Codism? I'm good with that. Heh heh. Expect the ARRL to get in on the act, maybe the "Pro-coder Compassion Supporter (or Truss?) Fund" or some title like that... With Carl in the ARRL, all things are possible. Carl ANDERSON? Yeah, right, just like Brain Kallie to make nastynoises. :-) On the ARRL's "poll" for 5 Aug 05 and an opinion on NPRM 05-143, of the 9,484 votes cast: 48.5% said it was a fine idea, 47.1% said it was a terrible idea, and 4.4% had no particular opinion either way. Looks like a concensus. Those numbers were flipped when we were told that we had to keep the code. [whut yu mean "we," white man?] [Tonto not hear dat...] NCTA super-extras like Jimmie Noserve will come out with the standard disclaimer that the website poll is "not scientific." They are so forking predictable that one doesn't have to think twice about what kind of rationalizations they write. Nah...let's just pick up the 2x4s and beat them over the head with the issue...just like they used to do it to no-coders in the last 50 years or so. I think they deserve it... :-) Please, no. Remember that compassionate no-codism is tolerant of faith-based modes. Geez...TUFF requirement! Not even a little 1x1 piece of oak? Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... There's "compassion" on the prarie, the badlands, and the great West for horses that can't make it. A gun or a knife solves their problems, provides time-tested "compassion." So it is with the coders. They can't make it without that TEST...so we should "do the right thing" and end their suffering. I'll have to consult with Pastor Midtlyng on that and get back to you... bye bye |
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Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... I realize this code test issue is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at this point, but I learned it as BRASS rather than BASS. ;-) 73 de John, KC2HMZ |
From: John Kasupski on Aug 20, 3:08 pm
On 19 Aug 2005 15:05:14 -0700, wrote: Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... I realize this code test issue is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at this point, but I learned it as BRASS rather than BASS. ;-) Heyo, John, off the subject but "BASS" was Breath-Aim-Sight-Squeeze acronym in the U.S. Army of the 1950s. If you search through past posts of Stebie da Wundermurine (K4YZ) you will find his implied "threat" of "a few ounces of pressure" which was, of course, in reference to the squeezing of a trigger. Hence my remark that you quoted. :-) In his emotional volatility he forgot to look to see if anyone could shoot back, hence his continuing anger and frustration at those who CAN and DARE to do such a thing! :-) gun sit |
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wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:37 wrote: From: on Aug 18, 3:33 pm an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. Some of us DO but, when messaging to unbalanced, unfair folks, it is rather difficult... :-) Difficult, but not insurmountable. Remember, compassionate no-codism serves both faith-based modes as well as all of the other modes. I sort of draw the line at the cretin who shouts, "God is for morse code testing and morse code!!!" So what's Steve been up to while I was camping with the BSA? that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. [only the NCTA are allowed to gloat... :-) ] Openly. Feels rather good. Time to turn things around now and let all the coders have it as those smug, arrogant, "superior" types have acted for the half century I've observed them. :-) Nah. Let's just press on and accept them as the red-headed step-children that they are. Definitely spare the rod and Spoil those brats. b. The PCTA make themselves look bad without any help. OTOH they do even better by just making em SEE happy folks They'll form support groups to try to cope. I hope so. think we should start a fund to help out? Compassionate No-Codism? I'm good with that. Heh heh. Expect the ARRL to get in on the act, maybe the "Pro-coder Compassion Supporter (or Truss?) Fund" or some title like that... With Carl in the ARRL, all things are possible. Carl ANDERSON? Yeah, right, just like Brain Kallie to make nastynoises. :-) If I had been three or four decades older, I might have wet myself over that one. Hi! On the ARRL's "poll" for 5 Aug 05 and an opinion on NPRM 05-143, of the 9,484 votes cast: 48.5% said it was a fine idea, 47.1% said it was a terrible idea, and 4.4% had no particular opinion either way. Looks like a concensus. Those numbers were flipped when we were told that we had to keep the code. [whut yu mean "we," white man?] [Tonto not hear dat...] NCTA super-extras like Jimmie Noserve will come out with the standard disclaimer that the website poll is "not scientific." Yet he never, ever, ever, commented on Mike Deignan's comments that the ARRL poll was "substantive." Hi! What a goose turd. They are so forking predictable that one doesn't have to think twice about what kind of rationalizations they write. You know what they're going to say before they say it. EXTRAcept when they goof up, Like Jim/N2EY did when he said that a code exam would be a barrier to code use! Hi! It always was!!! Hi, hi! Where was he when they were passing out Greenlee Punch? Nah...let's just pick up the 2x4s and beat them over the head with the issue...just like they used to do it to no-coders in the last 50 years or so. I think they deserve it... :-) Please, no. Remember that compassionate no-codism is tolerant of faith-based modes. Geez...TUFF requirement! Not even a little 1x1 piece of oak? Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... Whadda hell Steve doing here? There's "compassion" on the prarie, the badlands, and the great West for horses that can't make it. A gun or a knife solves their problems, provides time-tested "compassion." So it is with the coders. They can't make it without that TEST...so we should "do the right thing" and end their suffering. Suffering is good for them. I think they call it Martyrdom. I'll have to consult with Pastor Midtlyng on that and get back to you... bye bye If the dit don't fit, you cannot convict. |
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John Kasupski wrote: On 19 Aug 2005 15:05:14 -0700, wrote: Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... I realize this code test issue is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at this point, but I learned it as BRASS rather than BASS. ;-) 73 de John, KC2HMZ Brass is just some copper with lead in it's ass. |
wrote: From: John Kasupski on Aug 20, 3:08 pm On 19 Aug 2005 15:05:14 -0700, wrote: Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... I realize this code test issue is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel at this point, but I learned it as BRASS rather than BASS. ;-) Heyo, John, off the subject but "BASS" was Breath-Aim-Sight-Squeeze acronym in the U.S. Army of the 1950s. If you search through past posts of Stebie da Wundermurine (K4YZ) you will find his implied "threat" of "a few ounces of pressure" which was, of course, in reference to the squeezing of a trigger. Did Steve ever admit what was so obvious to everyone else? Hence my remark that you quoted. :-) In his emotional volatility he forgot to look to see if anyone could shoot back, hence his continuing anger and frustration at those who CAN and DARE to do such a thing! :-) gun sit That is a guaranteed inevitability. Instead of the neighbors saying, "he was such a nice man," they'll be saying, "I knew the VA should have kept him on his meds." |
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wrote: From: on Fri 19 Aug 2005 12:37 wrote: From: on Aug 18, 3:33 pm an_old_friend wrote: wrote: an_old_friend wrote: wrote: wrote: You gotta look at both sides if you want to be known as being fair and balanced. Some of us DO but, when messaging to unbalanced, unfair folks, it is rather difficult... :-) Difficult, but not insurmountable. Remember, compassionate no-codism serves both faith-based modes as well as all of the other modes. I sort of draw the line at the cretin who shouts, "God is for morse code testing and morse code!!!" So what's Steve been up to while I was camping with the BSA? The usual... :-) that and I have have found myself breaking into song on the repeater stuff like that Stop right there. Even the slightest upturn at the corner of your mouth might be mistaken as gloating. [only the NCTA are allowed to gloat... :-) ] Openly. Feels rather good. Time to turn things around now and let all the coders have it as those smug, arrogant, "superior" types have acted for the half century I've observed them. :-) Nah. Let's just press on and accept them as the red-headed step-children that they are. Definitely spare the rod and Spoil those brats. Spoil the brats?!? Not the Johnsonville brats...they're the wurst! Heh heh. Expect the ARRL to get in on the act, maybe the "Pro-coder Compassion Supporter (or Truss?) Fund" or some title like that... With Carl in the ARRL, all things are possible. Carl ANDERSON? Yeah, right, just like Brain Kallie to make nastynoises. :-) If I had been three or four decades older, I might have wet myself over that one. Hi! Heheheheheheheheheh...... On the ARRL's "poll" for 5 Aug 05 and an opinion on NPRM 05-143, of the 9,484 votes cast: 48.5% said it was a fine idea, 47.1% said it was a terrible idea, and 4.4% had no particular opinion either way. Looks like a concensus. Those numbers were flipped when we were told that we had to keep the code. [whut yu mean "we," white man?] [Tonto not hear dat...] NCTA super-extras like Jimmie Noserve will come out with the standard disclaimer that the website poll is "not scientific." Yet he never, ever, ever, commented on Mike Deignan's comments that the ARRL poll was "substantive." Hi! What a goose turd. You're RIGHT! Slipped my mind...but then it was long ago...:-) They are so forking predictable that one doesn't have to think twice about what kind of rationalizations they write. You know what they're going to say before they say it. EXTRAcept when they goof up, Like Jim/N2EY did when he said that a code exam would be a barrier to code use! Hi! It always was!!! Hi, hi! Where was he when they were passing out Greenlee Punch? Good old Greenlee Punch! I grew up in the city were that is made! It's so refreshing on a hot day...just pull up a blank chassis and punch away! :-) Nah...let's just pick up the 2x4s and beat them over the head with the issue...just like they used to do it to no-coders in the last 50 years or so. I think they deserve it... :-) Please, no. Remember that compassionate no-codism is tolerant of faith-based modes. Geez...TUFF requirement! Not even a little 1x1 piece of oak? Difficult. One SO wants to get a Hasty sling, a good sight picture, BASS, and apply just a few ounces of pressure... Whadda hell Steve doing here? Hehehehehehehehehe...some "recon marine" he are...didn't do a recon to see who he's up against... ):- It's my "insidious plan," Brian. I yank out Stebie's phrases and wait for his inevitable "IT'S A LIE!" shouting...then just point to his own words used against him. Heh heh heh heh. There's "compassion" on the prarie, the badlands, and the great West for horses that can't make it. A gun or a knife solves their problems, provides time-tested "compassion." So it is with the coders. They can't make it without that TEST...so we should "do the right thing" and end their suffering. Suffering is good for them. I think they call it Martyrdom. Okay, I'll go along with them suffering. Hmmm...from Major Domo to Martyr Dumb...has a ring to it... If the dit don't fit, you cannot convict. EXCELLENT turn of phrase! Love it! fit dit |
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I learned it as BRASS: Breathe-Relax-Aim-Sight-Squeez?e.
John, unload and secure your weapon. This be the rec.radio.twilight.zone (see signpost up ahead?). Compassionate no-codism frowns on violins in this din of inequity cum musical chairs chorus. Compose yourself. Orchestrate a new outlook. Or fiddle around with radio. At your rhythm. hup too |
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