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Old August 4th 05, 11:22 PM
 
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Dee Flint wrote:

I haven't decided whether to comment or not.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


I'd strongly suggest that you comment, Dee, regardless of
what your comments are. And regardless of whether they
affect the outcome at all.

For one thing, although some folks claim to know what the majority
wants,
the fact of that won't be known until all the comments are in. Last
time,
the majority didn't get what they wanted, though....

Of course someone trustworthy will have to read and categorize all the
comments for us to know what the majority wants. That was done back in
1998.

If nothing else, all of us can at least say that we let FCC know where
we stood.

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One thing that I found unsettling about 98-143 was how *few*
comments were filed. FCC was proposing the biggest shakeup of
the license and test structure in many years, and they got maybe
2200 comments - from an amateur population of almost 700,000 hams
(not counting expired-but-in-the-grace-period licenses, clubs, etc.)

Such a low turnout is troubling, particularly considering how easy
FCC has made it to file comments. There's ECFS, which can accept a
brief comment typed-in, or a lengthier one as a file attachment.
There's comments by mail, in paper or electronic format. 98-143
had a very long comment period, yet only about 1 in 300 US hams
commented at all.

Back in the 1960s, when FCC proposed the changes that came to be
known as "incentive licensing", they got over 6000 comments. There
were only about 250,000 US hams back then, with no internet, no
email, no word-processing, etc.

Last time I looked there were over 600 comments on file.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
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"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"Bill Sohl" wrote in message
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"Phil Kane" wrote in message
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On 4 Aug 2005 15:22:35 -0700, wrote:

If nothing else, all of us can at least say that we let FCC know where
we stood.

And the FCC let us all know where it stood when the NPRM was
released. Does anyone deny that the horserace is fixed and that the
majority wishes have nothing to do with the outcome?
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

Maybe yes, maybe no. In this case, the majority (if one
looks at the comments already filed) appear to be
running better than 2:1 in support of the ending of
all code testing. Sure looks like a majority to me.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK


I think the ones against the change are worn out. They know that the FCC
didn't listen before and don't believe the FCC will listen now. They are
ready to move on.
Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee, the FCC did listen to their comments via NPRM 98-143.
The FCC then gave written reasons why their arguments for code
testing were not sufficient to retain code testing when the
R&O was issued from 98-143.


That they gave their arguments makes them no more valid and no less valid
than before. It is a difference in beliefs, no more and no less.

You state..."they are ready tom move on." That's fine and
we can therefore view those folks willing to move on
as agreeable to the 05-235 changes proposed by virtue
of their silence.

Cheers,
Bill K2UNK



No I am not agreeable to the change but I would rather spend time elmering
people than composing a comment on it. To do the type of job that I would
want to do is time consuming. Of course I could just comment that I am
against it and let it go at that but I think that one should state why they
think the change should not go through.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


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Old August 5th 05, 05:12 AM
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K2EY:

I think the majoritys' will is what is occurring, and no, I don't think a
minority is going to be able to stop the majority here, perhaps if you got
a group together called "Gay Hams for Morse!" it might float, for some
reason the homosexuals are able to enforce their will on others
effectively, perhaps a study of their methods and their adoption could
lead to success.

John

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 20:21:19 -0700, Phil Kane wrote:

On 4 Aug 2005 15:22:35 -0700, wrote:

If nothing else, all of us can at least say that we let FCC know where
we stood.


And the FCC let us all know where it stood when the NPRM was
released. Does anyone deny that the horserace is fixed and that the
majority wishes have nothing to do with the outcome?




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