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August 6th 05, 12:22 PM
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Mike Coslo wrote: Bill Sohl wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Phil Kane wrote: On 4 Aug 2005 15:22:35 -0700, wrote: If nothing else, all of us can at least say that we let FCC know where we stood. And the FCC let us all know where it stood when the NPRM was released. Does anyone deny that the horserace is fixed and that the majority wishes have nothing to do with the outcome? Writeth this OF on 21 July: "This "NPRM" is not "an opportunity to comment", it's an announcement about the way it's absolutely gonna be. Period. They'll go thru the NPRM motions only because the law sez they have to and they'll patiently tap their fingers on the table until the deluge of desparate commnents is over then declare the POS they published today a done deal." Ignore the speling and thankew. Anyone who thinks that flooding the FCC with "comments" will make a whit of difference on this one doesn't understand how/why democracy beltway-style actually works. Diddy dah dit dah. Dit-DIT. w3rv Bottom line here... 1. The discussion as to value or need to have any code test was completely discussed prior to 2000 when the FCC specifically called for such discussion (NPRM 98-143). I thought so to. But why didn't FCC simply dump Element 1 two years ago, after WRC 2003 ended the treaty requirement? 2. Thousands of comments were filed with various rationals in support of code testing....the FCC in their R&O reviewed and dismissed every pro-code test argument.... Yup. But again, why didn't FCC simply dump Element 1 two years ago, after WRC 2003 ended the treaty requirement? Note also that the majority of those who commented back then not only wanted code testing, but wanted at least two speeeds of code testing. FCC ignored the majority. They also think that BPL is the best thing since sliced bread. Yes, FCC seems to think that, despite all the evidence to the contrary. 3. The ONLY reason the FCC kept even a 5wpm test was because of the international treaty requiring a code test. Yup. 4. The WRC-2003 review resulted in elimination of any code test requirement in the international treaty with almost unanomous agreement by the countries to do so. Yup. 5. The current NPRM, in short, deletes code testing for USA amateurs as allowed now by the international treaty. The FCC, now has an open comment period for discussion of the proposed change. The current NPRM *proposes* to dump Element 1. It also denies just about everything else in the 18 proposals. 6. Unless some great new and profound reason to retain code testing surfaces via the 05-235 comment process, any prospect of keeping any code test is just not going to happen. The old arguments (and that's all that any PCTAs have been rehashing) have no chance of winning out since they failed in 98-143, WRC-2003, etc. Is there any chance that *any* pro-code-test discussion will have *any* effect on the outcome? Suppose - just suppose - that after all the comments are in, the majority of commenters support at least some code testing. Will FCC change their position? 7. Any argument or claim that the code test should be retained if a majority of hams want it so isn't going to happen either. For two reasons: (a) The FCC doesn't make the rules that way and (b) The majority of current comments are actually running better than 2 to 1 in favor of total elimination of code testing. The first reason is clear. The second is simply what's happening now. Weeks to go yet. And if the first is true, the majority is irrelevant,isn't it? Um, Bill. Do you *really* believe that because the majority of current comments are in favor of elimination of the test, that the majority of Hams are of the same opinion? *Is* it a representative sample? Does that matter? I agree with what you wrote. Resistance is now futile. Why should I waste my time commenting? Because if the majority supports elimination, FCC will say 'we just gave you what the majority wanted'. You win. Shouldn't you and Carl and Fred be working on your next effort? I don't think NCI, Bill or Carl have a "next effort". When Element 1 goes away, they're done. Fred is a very different issue. Watch what happens in the next few years. Element 1 will most probably go away, regardless of commentary. There will be a flurry of upgrades to General and Extra, and a flurry of new licenses. Then the license numbers will go back to about where they were before all the changes. And folks like Fred will resurrect the "Communicator" idea again, and push for reducing the written tests yet again. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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